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| 08:15.00 | Tarragon | Moin. Anyone use SuSE ? If so is there an equivalent of the mpage command? |
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| 08:39.57 | irvined | hello |
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| 08:48.05 | zachary | moin |
| 10:02.09 | Wethrin | Hello. |
| 11:04.38 | zachary | afternoon Wethrin |
| 11:15.47 | Wethrin | Why's it been so quiet in here the last few days? |
| 11:24.59 | zachary | Must have something to do with the new membership fees. |
| 11:26.13 | Wethrin | Mm yes. |
| 11:38.12 | Wethrin | Lunchtime! |
| 11:39.17 | zachary | Wethrin: You can't eat and type at the same time? |
| 11:54.39 | murble | Wethrin: how is your irc session? |
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| 12:49.29 | Wethrin | murble: My IRC session is good. |
| 12:50.22 | murble | learning lots about computers then? |
| 12:50.28 | Wethrin | Oh yes. |
| 12:50.39 | Wethrin | We had our first lecture with some Java content today. |
| 12:52.01 | gregj | re |
| 12:52.23 | murble | Wethrin: was it Winder and Roberts that book you bought? |
| 12:52.43 | Wethrin | Yes. |
| 12:53.14 | murble | Roberts is @cs.ucl.ac.uk or was then my copy was printed.. |
| 12:53.20 | Wethrin | Roberts is one of the course tutors. |
| 12:53.33 | murble | yeah, you can tell him it is a crap book. |
| 12:53.44 | Wethrin | Heh. |
| 12:54.21 | murble | and that i passed my java course just by knowing some c and c++ :) |
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| 12:54.45 | murble | and a rough apprication of how crap java is. |
| 12:54.52 | Wethrin | Heh. |
| 12:55.50 | Wethrin | Too early for you? |
| 12:56.03 | gregj | hehe |
| 12:56.31 | gregj | i woke up about an hour ago |
| 12:56.48 | Wethrin | Yes. Early. |
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| 12:58.18 | Wethrin | Mmm. More Java lectures. |
| 12:58.54 | Wethrin | Back in an hour. Or maybe two. |
| 13:29.01 | gregj | how to clean screen with echo ? |
| 13:29.09 | gregj | hmm |
| 13:29.16 | gregj | i'll use clear, doesn't matter |
| 13:34.34 | murble | echo -n `clear` |
| 13:42.25 | gregj | Wethrin: maybe you will know |
| 13:42.35 | gregj | i setup 2 hd, new ones in raid-1 |
| 13:42.50 | gregj | and on mkraid /dev/md1 he is synchronizing them, i don't know what for |
| 13:46.20 | murble | use mdadm it is much nicer. |
| 13:47.23 | gregj | hmm, how much is 1566 minutes in hours :> |
| 13:47.32 | gregj | i guess i don't want to wait that long.... |
| 13:51.01 | gregj | murble: do you know how to create raid1 with mdadm - but without running synchronization process ? |
| 13:51.25 | gregj | apparently it seems that this mdadm does not use /etc/raidtab |
| 13:51.26 | gregj | grrr |
| 13:56.00 | Wethrin | Why would you clear the screen using echo, rather than clear? |
| 13:56.08 | gregj | i don't know |
| 13:56.13 | Wethrin | :) |
| 13:56.18 | gregj | i realized after asking that i can use clear ;] |
| 13:56.22 | Wethrin | :) |
| 13:56.48 | gregj | ok, i created md1 with mdadm - but he still want to resync those partitions |
| 13:56.50 | gregj | grrr |
| 13:56.52 | gregj | why ! |
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| 13:56.59 | Wethrin | Hi Leeds |
| 13:57.06 | gregj | resync of 100GB takes ages |
| 13:57.08 | gregj | hi Leeds |
| 13:57.19 | Wethrin | Use smaller disks. |
| 13:57.34 | gregj | beep - incorrect answer |
| 13:57.38 | Wethrin | 12GB won't take long to resync, and I'd happily swap you 2x 6GB drives for your 100GB |
| 13:57.58 | gregj | hehe |
| 13:58.03 | gregj | its not mine, its customers |
| 13:58.13 | gregj | databases are quite hudge |
| 14:00.37 | Wethrin | Delete them. |
| 14:00.40 | murble | gregj: you can tell it just to create |
| 14:00.48 | gregj | i did that |
| 14:01.00 | murble | or maybe it has to be online |
| 14:01.05 | gregj | :/ |
| 14:01.12 | murble | because it just tells the kernel what to do. |
| 14:01.21 | murble | maybe you jsut want the mdadm.conf entries? |
| 14:01.35 | gregj | nope, he can run without them |
| 14:01.42 | gregj | thats a good side of mdadm |
| 14:02.13 | murble | gregj: I know. |
| 14:02.26 | murble | but when you don't have it you have a longer command line :) |
| 14:02.42 | gregj | i don't mind command line :D |
| 14:02.45 | murble | I said I'd leave at 15:00 |
| 14:02.54 | murble | gregj: yeah, but it means rembering more stuff to type.l |
| 14:03.05 | murble | oftern when you have to know this things stuff like man pages are not avalible. |
| 14:03.08 | Wethrin | murble: That's 3 mins ago |
| 14:03.14 | murble | Wethrin: I know |
| 14:03.29 | murble | I've a pot of tea to finish before i leave though. |
| 14:03.41 | Wethrin | Okay. |
| 14:03.43 | gregj | Leeds: how are you |
| 14:04.02 | Wethrin | Give me a call when you get to Euston Square, or somesuch. |
| 14:04.13 | murble | oh and i have 256 mb of compaq sdram 100mhz etc. |
| 14:04.18 | murble | spare |
| 14:04.21 | Wethrin | That's not bad. :) |
| 14:04.33 | Wethrin | Is it only for a specific Compaq, or can it be used in other systems? |
| 14:04.40 | murble | Wethrin: it is, because i thought i was buying edo dimms |
| 14:04.42 | Leeds | gregj: chilled |
| 14:04.50 | murble | and it turned out to be sdram dimms |
| 14:04.52 | gregj | i got a flu again or something |
| 14:05.02 | gregj | :# |
| 14:05.09 | murble | I've just a cold i hope. |
| 14:05.20 | Wethrin | Hm. Do you want to give it away? ;-) |
| 14:05.33 | murble | Wethrin: it is not an it. |
| 14:05.40 | Wethrin | Them. |
| 14:06.04 | murble | I was hoping to swap it for the correct memory that i need. |
| 14:06.20 | murble | oh and the ppro was .99 p |
| 14:06.26 | murble | confused me on my cc statement |
| 14:06.34 | murble | now howmuch does a cc transaction normally cost the vendor? |
| 14:10.51 | Wethrin | I think it depends on the agreement they have with the CC company |
| 14:11.01 | Wethrin | They might just pay a standing charge to allow unlimited transactions |
| 14:22.22 | Leeds | the one 'vendor' I know pays an amount per transaction |
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| 16:25.57 | zachary_knoppix | brb |
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| 16:59.05 | zachary_knoppix | Leeds: Ping |
| 16:59.46 | gregj | anyone knows how much sophos for linux cost ? |
| 16:59.57 | gregj | i need to use it with postfix as an antyvir thing |
| 17:03.47 | Tarragon | 10 unit pack is US$900 plus shipping for Linux Intel |
| 17:03.57 | gregj | what does it mean 10 unit ? |
| 17:04.03 | gregj | i need to put it on server |
| 17:04.05 | gregj | one server |
| 17:05.10 | Tarragon | The calc is either workstations plus servers or 10, whichever is greater |
| 17:06.10 | gregj | oh |
| 17:06.15 | gregj | so i can say it is 900$ |
| 17:18.21 | Leeds | zachary_knoppix: ponh |
| 17:18.22 | Leeds | pong |
| 17:19.05 | gregj | ping :> |
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| 18:15.28 | JD | hi all |
| 18:16.52 | gregj | hi |
| 19:02.40 | eye69 | Evening |
| 19:02.45 | JD | hi |
| 19:12.32 | zachary_knoppix | evening eye69, how's the new job? |
| 19:13.31 | eye69 | It's quite alright. Been in Chelmsford all day setting up a network. |
| 19:15.12 | JD | eye69: where abouts? |
| 19:15.28 | eye69 | JD: Good question. The industrial area, or something like that. |
| 19:15.33 | JD | ah okay |
| 19:15.33 | eye69 | TaxiBus's offices. |
| 19:15.37 | JD | I was in the centre |
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| 19:18.18 | eye69 | Okie. I might be there tomorrow as well, and a couple of days next week. |
| 19:19.09 | JD | I won't |
| 19:25.20 | gregj | fscking hell |
| 19:25.54 | JD | ? |
| 19:26.09 | gregj | nothing nothing |
| 19:26.13 | gregj | just getting angry |
| 19:26.13 | JD | ? |
| 19:26.30 | eye69 | ? |
| 19:27.04 | Jenson | heya guys |
| 19:27.15 | JD | hi |
| 19:27.20 | gregj | Jenson: ;D |
| 19:29.41 | Jenson | gregj: what you getting angry about sweetie? |
| 19:34.49 | gregj | life |
| 19:34.57 | gregj | still waiting for life 2.0 to come out |
| 19:34.59 | gregj | :D |
| 19:35.10 | gregj | i got my visa anyway |
| 19:35.26 | gregj | now i need to go for some holiday, because i can now travel |
| 19:35.40 | gregj | but got no money, so i will have to borrow probably |
| 19:36.05 | Jenson | awww, we gonna see you on saturday? |
| 19:36.08 | gregj | i need a regular job. Doing contracts is annoying |
| 19:36.24 | gregj | probably, depends on how will i feel |
| 19:36.38 | gregj | my flu is almost gone |
| 19:36.49 | Jenson | well, if you come out and introduce yourself, i'll give you a hug :) |
| 19:38.00 | gregj | hehe |
| 19:38.01 | gregj | thx |
| 19:38.18 | Jenson | yw |
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| 19:46.17 | Jenson | heya stephanb |
| 19:46.38 | stephanb | Jenson: heya miss J |
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| 19:54.25 | Jenson | heya Leeds |
| 19:54.28 | Jenson | BBL |
| 19:54.44 | JD | hi Leeds |
| 19:56.24 | Leeds | foo |
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| 20:05.14 | stephanb | Leeds: bar |
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| 20:22.37 | Leeds | JD: ping? |
| 20:23.04 | stephanb | what time does the meeting start on saturday ? i cant find a schedule on the website. |
| 20:23.05 | JD | pong |
| 20:23.54 | Leeds | 12ish |
| 20:23.56 | Leeds | apparently |
| 20:24.38 | stephanb | ah |
| 20:24.59 | stephanb | and in metric ? |
| 20:32.30 | stephanb | 1 ish = approx 7 minutes 13 seconds |
| 20:32.59 | Leeds | about 50% |
| 20:37.36 | stephanb | that's more like 12:30 |
| 20:51.38 | stephanb | an apple ? |
| 20:52.02 | stephanb | to run OS-X ? |
| 20:52.21 | Leeds | yes |
| 20:52.42 | stephanb | what's the point ? |
| 20:52.53 | Leeds | they're cool machines running cool software |
| 20:52.59 | stephanb | you need to impress your clients ? |
| 20:53.16 | stephanb | they're overpriced machines. Gucci computers |
| 20:53.58 | Leeds | I have no clients |
| 20:54.07 | Leeds | they're good toys |
| 20:57.24 | stephanb | with everything of os-x ever so slightly different from a normal unix |
| 20:57.40 | stephanb | maybe you don't mind that coming from solaris |
| 21:17.58 | Leeds | um |
| 21:18.19 | Leeds | Solaris is de facto (and de jure - spelling? - as it happens) 'normal unix' |
| 21:21.38 | zachary_knoppix | stephanb: The gllug website is currently at unfsn, http://www.gllug.ukfsn.org. |
| 21:24.09 | stephanb | aaaaaaah |
| 21:25.11 | zachary_knoppix | we're having some dns resolving problems with linux.co.uk. |
| 21:26.17 | stephanb | hmmm |
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| 21:31.13 | zachary_knoppix | evening highbury |
| 21:48.27 | highbury | hey zach |
| 21:52.25 | highbury | I'm not sure whether I'll be able to make it on Saturday :-( |
| 21:53.49 | zachary_knoppix | That's alright, I might miss it myself.(Only if Jess goes early, but then again I can always sneek out for a food break) |
| 21:54.39 | zachary_knoppix | highbury: Seen the new knoppix 3.3? |
| 21:55.06 | highbury | not yet, I'm downloading it now. Any significant improvements? |
| 21:55.18 | highbury | s/significant/noticable/ |
| 21:55.53 | zachary_knoppix | Yea, I've only tested the wifi stuff, Xchat |
| 21:56.17 | zachary_knoppix | smoothwall 2.0b5? |
| 21:56.56 | highbury | 2.0b6 |
| 21:57.18 | zachary_knoppix | damn! |
| 21:58.21 | highbury | I've just upgraded my 2.0b5 to patch level 4 (fixes recent openssh issues) |
| 21:59.59 | highbury | but since I specially customise it to run with my whacko Homechoice serial-usb ADSL connection it may be a while before I move to beta 6 aka "voyager" |
| 22:02.13 | highbury | http://smoothwall.org/beta/ |
| 22:04.15 | highbury | http://hoojum.com <- Yummy |
| 22:16.31 | zachary_knoppix | I've gotta get some sleep. |
| 22:19.38 | highbury | gnite |
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