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00:29.35*** join/#gllug Leeds (~richardc@212.158.207.148)
00:29.40gregjLeeds: :D
00:29.46Leedsevening!
00:29.55gregjdid you drove home ?
00:30.19Leedstrain, train, car...
00:30.24Leedsthen fixing ADSL :-)
00:30.41gregj:]
00:30.53Leedstime to speed-test it :-)
00:31.10Leedsit certainly feels quick...
00:34.01gregj:]
00:38.12Leedsit started off very quick - like 225kbytes/sec but dropped down to about 150... now climbing again, over 166
00:38.48gregjtry axel
00:38.56gregjaxel -n 10 -a URL
00:39.00gregjinstead of wget URL
00:39.34Leeds$ axel
00:39.34Leedsbash: axel: command not found
00:40.13gregjapt-get install axel
00:40.55Leeds$ apt-get install axel
00:40.55Leedsbash: apt-get: command not found
00:41.09gregjhehehe
00:41.15gregjwell
00:41.23gregjyour linux is broken ;P
00:41.50Leeds01:40:59 (181.57 KB/s) - `OOo_1.1.0_LinuxIntel_install.tar.gz' saved [78347712]
00:42.02LeedsI can probably live with that for sustained throughput for now :-)
00:42.58gregj:]
00:42.58Leedsis axel a multi-threaded downloader?
00:43.01gregjyep
00:44.21gregj01:44:13 (305.83 KB/s) - `linux-2.4.22.tar.bz2' saved [29528612]
00:44.23gregjthats wget
00:44.36Leedsshould I worry that I now apparently have about the same downstream bandwidth at home as I have at work - shared with 35 other people in the office? :-)
00:44.56gregjnice
00:45.44gregjDownloaded 28.2 megabytes in 1:00 seconds. (476.98 KB/s)
00:45.48gregjwith axel -n 10 -a
00:46.10Leedsthat's not to home though, is it?
00:46.15gregjnope
00:46.25gregjwe have shaper on servers
00:46.29gregjbut i can swithc it of
00:46.29gregjf
00:46.36gregjand i will have kernel in 10s
00:46.36gregj;]
00:48.16Leedsthis feels very quick :-)
00:48.26gregj:]
00:48.39gregjwell, maybe one day i will move to redbus
00:48.42gregj:]
00:48.56gregjalthou it is always 18 degrees there
00:49.24Leedsheh
00:49.38gregjhaving just pillow and sleeping bag
00:51.06gregji have to email this guy about job in the morning
00:51.49Leedstrue
00:52.33Leedsg'night
00:53.16Leeds01:52:27 (216.91 KB/s) - `ed2k-gtk-gui-0.6.0.tar.gz' saved [1539904/1539904]
00:53.17Leeds:-)
00:54.28gregj:]
08:21.10highburymorning
08:51.54JDhi
09:03.13*** join/#gllug cup (~cup@host81-136-19-41.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
09:54.18highburyhi jd did you see my kde question from last night?
10:40.50JDerm no
10:40.59JDI was without tcp/ip last night
10:41.15JDhmm kmail
10:41.56JDjust asking if anyone else is having issues
10:42.04JDcupis is possibly the best person to talk to
10:50.38highburywell I'm just off to the expo now, running late due to baby duties
11:01.55*** join/#gllug Leeds (~rc112576@beryllium.eu.sun.com)
11:27.26JDhi rich
11:27.51Leedsafternoon...
11:28.03Leedsyou @ Expo?
11:28.10JDyes
11:28.22JDwith sticky keys after laptop-beer interface
11:28.32Leedsheh
11:30.35Leedsstill lively down there?
11:32.19JDyeah
11:32.28JDa bit less than yesterday
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12:06.09gregjhi zachary
12:06.15gregjhi JD , Leeds
12:06.20JDhi honey
12:06.25Leedsevening gregj
12:06.54Leedshave you been drinking?
12:07.24gregj:>
12:07.41Leedsand if not... why not?
12:08.36JDLeeds: nnnnoooooooooo
12:09.01JDah and jason keeps giving me stuff
12:09.34Leedsheh
12:11.02gregjJD: free drinks for exhibitors today ? :>
12:11.08JDno :(
12:11.42gregjhmm
12:12.13gregjhow can i tell sed to change FIXME to FIXME: but do not touch FIXME: (so he won't make FIXME::)
12:14.12JDs/FIXME[^:]/FIXME:/gc
12:17.42gregjg stands for global, what c stands for ?
12:18.13Leedsspeed of light
12:18.24gregj:]
12:18.53gregj:>
12:20.10gregjJD: thanks
12:20.13gregjdone and commited
12:23.49JDc means confirm but I think that is only for vi[m]
12:24.50gregjmhm
12:25.10gregjthan it is usefull in vim, indeed
12:25.15JDyes
12:27.04JDg /9
12:27.38gregj?
12:34.01JDer started to say something and then stopped
13:12.39gregjhmm
13:12.43gregji got strange case
13:12.57gregjfor some reason i am not able to login as user on my box using ssh
13:13.08gregji can do su - user from root, ahd ssh root@ip
13:13.19gregjstrange
13:15.18gregjany ideas ?
13:16.40Leedsput sshd in debug and look at the log?
13:16.50Leedsshell in /etc/shells?
13:17.56gregjyep
13:18.14gregji can login as root
13:18.17gregjbut not as user
13:18.26gregjremotely
13:18.30gregji can login localy
13:18.40gregjand i can do su - user
13:21.32gregjPAM password auth failed
13:21.51gregji run passwd gj , and changed my one to new
13:21.54gregjand still the same problem
13:21.56gregjhmm
13:26.50gregjfsck
14:40.44*** join/#gllug tjoshi (~tjoshi@80.84.75.2)
14:40.51tjoshihello
14:42.46Leedshey tjoshi
14:43.46formiim formi
14:44.00formitushar is around drinking beer
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14:45.32*** part/#gllug formi (~tjoshi@80.84.75.2)
14:46.30formi2epic is not my kind of thing
14:49.30Leedshi tush
14:51.13formi2im not tush
14:51.40formi2it is tushar's bloody sony laptop
14:52.17formi2any news of murb, he was here yesterday
14:52.18Leedstush: why are you pretending to be Spanish?
14:52.29Leedsnews? I saw him at the pub...
14:53.26formi2Leeds: cause is so cool!
14:53.40Leedsyou know nothing!
14:54.00formi2today there seems to be loads of free beer around, no need of a pub, :-)
14:55.47Leedsapparently there was lots of free beer yesterday too...
14:56.18formi2im already drank
14:56.34formi2been drinking since 11 o'clocl
15:01.48formi2back in a bit
15:02.48formi2gosh
15:02.56formi2they are kicking us out
15:03.03formi2see ya
15:14.38*** join/#gllug Xiaoqi (~nikki@negativezero.plus.com)
15:25.31WethrinHello people.
15:27.07Leedsevening
15:27.18Leedsgood day?
15:29.37murbhiho
15:29.44WethrinI got 2 T Shirts and a poloneck
15:31.30Xiaoqihi
15:31.44murbi got one t shirt yesterday.
15:41.19LeedsWethrin: good one... I got... a bag
15:41.23Leedsa carrier bag
15:47.10WethrinYay :)
15:47.18WethrinI got a mini rugby ball too
15:50.07Leedssaw them... didn't get one :-(
15:51.49WethrinAww.
15:54.09LeedsI'll live
15:57.36WethrinGood good.
15:58.47LeedsGood good or good god?
15:58.53WethrinGood good!
15:59.08WethrinHmm. Should I have another curry tonight?
15:59.25Leedsno
15:59.31LeedsPizza tonight
15:59.38Leedsmmm... pizza...
15:59.48*** join/#gllug harman (harman@mantheakis.claranet.co.uk)
15:59.51WethrinBut...I should be going to the pub. Which might be a Wetherspoons which has curry.
16:01.01Leedsgo to the pizza place next door
16:01.11WethrinThere's a McDonalds next door.
16:01.13LeedsWetherspoons do good veggie burgers, I think
16:01.46WethrinThey do good burgers.
16:52.25*** join/#gllug stephen (stephen@slacker.4k-gaming.net)
17:46.40*** join/#gllug Xiaoqi_ (~nikki@negativezero.plus.com)
17:47.18Xiaoqi_hihi
17:50.39*** join/#gllug Leeds (~richardc@212.158.207.148)
17:55.17Copehello leeds
17:55.25Leedsevening :-)
17:55.54Leedsany good?
17:56.14Jensonthey were just on the news
17:56.28CopeYeah - satire on 80s glam rock.  Good stuff.
17:56.40CopeHi Jenson
17:57.12Jensonheya
17:57.14Xiaoqihihi
17:57.19Jensonheya
17:57.27Xiaoqihow is everyone?
17:57.30LeedsCope: I thought they weren't satire
17:59.18CopeLeeds: Not satire in the (bah can't remember the name of the film/band) sense; but certainly taking the piss,
18:00.20JensonDoes anyone know any good sites for MS Access documentation?
18:00.25CopeSpinal Tap!!
18:00.37Copejenson: man access
18:00.39Copelol
18:00.57JensonCope: lol, its not me, my dad is suddenly trying to learn it
18:01.00Jensoni avoid it lol
18:01.04Copejenson: Sorry; I don't know.
18:01.54zacharyJenson: Bookstore!
18:02.04Jensonzachary: library :)
18:02.21Jensonive randomly reserved books on Access
18:02.35Copezachary: I bumbed into sash on the tube today </random> - he says you have a new son!? Is this true?
18:03.30zacharyyes, born on 2nd
18:03.40Cope1st?
18:03.51LeedsCope: 2nd - read carefully
18:03.59zacharyno 2nd, first was daughter 1 1/2 yo.
18:04.07CopeCool.
18:04.12Jensoni wandered in the library for no reason today, came out with: Niestchze, a massive UNIX guide a Adobe Illustrator guide and an Access guide
18:04.20Jensonzachary: pls tell me he has a name i can remember :)
18:04.27LeedsJenson: which UNIX book?
18:04.47zacharyJenson: Somewhat normal Corbin Zachary
18:05.25JensonCope: well, i dont know if any of has ever met his children, so he could be pretending :P
18:06.02JensonLeeds: Mastering UNIX....old unix guide, but it was in the library and for once it wasnt one id ordered in so i got it
18:06.36Leedscool
18:07.17Jensoncoz all the unix/linux guides in there i rodered in lol
18:07.18zacharyCope:  Nothing will prepare you, except have patience.
18:07.25Jensons/orderex
18:07.28Jensonordered
18:07.31Jensonbloody hell
18:07.33Jensonlol
18:07.52Jensonzachary: so when will we get to meet the older one?
18:07.53zacharybbl, food time!
18:09.13Leedshey - someone's talking about Jenson on Buffy! :-P
18:09.26Jensonlol, which ep is that?
18:09.34Leedswell... talking about the id, anyway :-)
18:10.20Jensonlmao
18:10.30Jensoni was watching that ep of Star Trek this morning
18:11.49Jensonand tonight is Sweet Medecine, doubt you guys like that though
18:12.00JensonMedicine even
18:16.25Leedshmmm... Sky showing an Arnie film at the weekend :-)
18:23.36Xiaoqihi Cope how are you doing?
18:23.43LeedsCope: snort speaks now?
18:25.05CopeHey xiaoqi.
18:25.36CopeLeeds: Do you know much about Kabbalah?
18:25.44LeedsCope: no, very little
18:25.48Leedswhy do you ask?
18:26.38CopeNor I - Sophie just asked me about it... apparently its quite trendy now - Madonna and Demi Moore being the latest followers.
18:27.33CopeI think the rise in Scientology, Angelology, Kabbalism etc is very interesting - 'spirituallity' is very cool, it would appear.
18:27.53Leedsmost of that stuff has very little to do with true kabbalah AFAIK
18:28.11Leedsit's very much a populist cult based on some of the ideas
18:28.16Copekabbalah as in 'that which has been received'?
18:28.23Leedsyes
18:30.05CopeI thought modern Kabbalism was distinctly influenced by numerology.
18:30.50Leedsthere is some strange numerology stuff, yes
18:32.01CopeVery strange.
18:35.18CopeTurkish Politician: If you moon and throw bottles at someone, you should be stabbed for this.
19:07.04Copewb
19:07.19XiaoqiCope, what have u been up 2 recently?
19:07.54CopeGood question... sleeping, working very hard... umm... nothing much
19:09.17Xiaoqiheh
19:09.54Jensonhow's sophie
19:10.02Copeok - watching tv
19:10.37Jensondo you do the whle talking to the baby thing, or is it til early for that?
19:11.21CopeNot much talking - I say hello to him when he kicks!
19:11.54Jensonawww sweet
19:16.39Xiaoqiaww!! babies!
19:16.50Jensonyeh i want kids
19:17.10Leedsnow *there's* a scary thought
19:17.31JensonLeeds: bastard :P
19:17.47Xiaoqihehe
19:17.56Xiaoqii want kids too, just not for a while
19:17.56Xiaoqihehe
19:22.40Jensonoh well, time to go, i may be back after 10, not sure yet
19:22.42Jensonseeya!
19:29.24CopeAnyone awake?
19:29.38Leedsa little
19:30.08Leedsuh-oh
19:30.33Xiaoqihihi
19:30.44CopeI've been asked by my boss to make an internal BBS system; for people to post news and useful information - kind of a forum and searchable resource too.
19:31.15Leedsplenty of php boards around
19:31.19CopeI wondered how tricky this would be, and how much time to say I will need... obviously only guidelines.
19:31.42Leedsa couple of hours?
19:31.55CopeMaybe I could host it myself?
19:31.57Leeds(assuming you have a machine with PHP running)
19:32.03CopeWell this is the issue.
19:32.22Leedsa couple more hours to setup the machine
19:32.45CopeThere's a spare machine kicking around.
19:32.48Leedsalternatively, a slash/scoop/nuke/etc. thing could work
19:33.08CopeBut I imagine they expect me to put it on the mail server,
19:33.46CopeBut thats an oldish redhat machine, old libraries etc.... could be a pain installing new software, since the machine's been unadministered for abour 2 years.
19:33.47Leedswhj
19:33.51Leedswhy?
19:33.55Leedsargh
19:34.25Leedstell your boss that?
19:34.59CopeTell him what... that it should be a priority?
19:35.31Leedsno - that the mail server isn't a suitable machine for adding new, up-to-date software
19:35.49CopeOh, yeah, that's fine.
19:36.29CopeHe will probably say its ok to use my old machine.
19:39.35CopeSo then install apache and php and add some sort of php board?
19:53.18JDhi
19:54.19Copehi JD
19:55.00JDhi
19:55.02JDbrb
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21:11.41WethrinHello people
21:11.51Xiaoqihi
21:12.06WethrinHihi
21:12.20*** mode/#gllug [+o Wethrin] by ChanServ
21:12.53*** topic/#gllug by Wethrin -> Greater London LUG. Next meeting: 1st November, Westminster Uni (Installfest). http://www.gllug.ukfsn.org
21:13.04*** mode/#gllug [-o Wethrin] by Wethrin
21:20.32gregjWethrin: :D
21:21.02WethrinHi greg
21:23.46gregjJD: what were names of KDE guys that were there
21:23.49gregj?
21:24.01JDhi gregj
21:24.17JDriddell chowells jono bacon and ben lam
21:24.19JDlamb
21:24.39gregjben lamb was the one in suit ?
21:40.05JDyes
21:40.10JDI went to uni with him
21:40.16JDI went to scholl with jono
21:49.35WethrinHah.
21:49.36Wethrin:)
21:50.17eye69Found one PCI modem and one ISA modem at work...couldn't get the PCI one to work (of coursse)
21:51.19eye69I have disconnected BT's white DACS2 box from the incoming phone line, and connected the line directly
21:51.33eye69The box is probably broken (well, it doesn't work)
21:52.16eye69I get a working phoneline before the box, with full 48V. I get no signal after the box.
21:54.12*** join/#gllug SpudULike (~colin@82-35-33-229.cable.ubr01.camd.blueyonder.co.uk)
21:54.53eye69I wonder why the UK phoone system uses a separate ringer
21:58.28gregjbecause it is UK
21:58.41gregjeverything is different, and in their minds - better
21:59.14eye69You have just the two wires in poland?
21:59.29gregjyep
22:00.05eye6948V DC, and around 150V AC when ringing
22:00.38gregj66V when rinning
22:00.39gregji think
22:00.41gregjafair
22:01.30eye69Might be some subtle differences
22:02.17gregjbut i don't remember exactly
22:04.59eye69I would rather think it's 96V in that case
22:05.09gregjmaybe
22:05.14eye69The ring voltage is considerably higher than the idle voltage
22:08.50*** join/#gllug new2unix (~new2unix@dsl-217-155-250-142.zen.co.uk)
22:09.28gregjeye69: yeo
22:09.46new2unixhi Magnus :)
22:09.52new2unixhi all :)
22:10.03gregjhi new to unix
22:11.34eye69Hello
22:12.02new2unixin the middle of a Redhat instal at the mo. BBL
22:41.44*** join/#gllug lancelan (~linuxlan@wellhouse.definite.net.uk)
22:42.25WethrinHi
22:51.48lancelanLo Dan
22:54.46JDhi dan
22:56.00Wethrin'night all
22:56.20Leedsngiht
22:56.21lancelanlo JD
22:56.48Leedsevening lance

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