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| 10:08.58 | Wethrin | Guten morgen. |
| 10:20.47 | Clyphox | Morning |
| 10:21.27 | Wethrin | Only for another 40 mins |
| 10:21.38 | Clyphox | well 39 |
| 10:21.47 | Wethrin | Pedant. |
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| 10:44.45 | Xiaoqi | morning all |
| 10:45.01 | zachary | morning Xiaoqi |
| 10:45.09 | Xiaoqi | hi zachary |
| 10:45.13 | Xiaoqi | hows you? |
| 10:45.53 | zachary | Busy. New son, fustrated wife, catching up on studies. |
| 10:51.58 | zachary | bbl |
| 10:52.26 | Clyphox | heh.. cool |
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| 11:20.55 | Wethrin | Hi Lance |
| 11:42.52 | Wethrin | I think it's time for food |
| 11:43.20 | Clyphox | I'm gonna have to go outside soon |
| 11:43.24 | Clyphox | ...ack |
| 11:44.46 | Tarragon | What! Outside a computer room. You mean into the corridor. Whatever for? The lights are too bright and there are users out there. |
| 11:45.08 | Clyphox | un filtered air too |
| 11:45.31 | Clyphox | and that F*SCKING HUGE BIG BRIGHT light in the sky damnit!! |
| 11:45.38 | Clyphox | it gonna hurt.. :-( |
| 11:45.48 | Clyphox|outside | here goes |
| 11:46.11 | Tarragon | Saw that once. Years ago. Called Luna isn't it |
| 11:46.34 | Wethrin | No no. It's Sol at this time of night. |
| 11:46.51 | Tarragon | Wow. two of them. |
| 11:47.01 | Wethrin | Yeh. |
| 11:47.03 | Wethrin | Anyway, food. BBL. |
| 11:47.03 | Clyphox|outside | really? |
| 11:47.12 | Clyphox|outside | da.. /me goes too |
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| 12:17.28 | Xiaoqi | hi JD |
| 12:17.33 | Xiaoqi | hows you? |
| 12:17.35 | JD | hi |
| 12:17.37 | JD | good |
| 12:17.41 | JD | eating toblerone |
| 12:17.49 | Xiaoqi | mmm chocolate |
| 12:17.59 | JD | aye |
| 12:18.28 | murb | i was warned to lock up our cholcate as one of our customers new empoloyees with be working at our office for amonth.. |
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| 13:51.21 | Wethrin | murb: Which country are you in ATM? |
| 13:53.51 | murb | Wethrin: luxembourg |
| 13:54.05 | Wethrin | Okay. When're you coming back to UK? |
| 13:54.07 | murb | it isn't as if i have a london office or evne an office.uk |
| 13:56.24 | Wethrin | Yeh |
| 14:04.05 | gregj | Wethrin: :D |
| 14:04.48 | gregj | guys, how much should i charge someone for setting up automated backup of 4 servers ? |
| 14:05.02 | gregj | 300 ? 400 ? |
| 14:05.07 | gregj | i dunno |
| 14:06.16 | gregj | over network, no tapes and no DVDs unfortunatelly |
| 14:06.25 | gregj | :/ |
| 14:06.47 | Wethrin | Eww. £500. |
| 14:07.49 | gregj | good, nie mialem sumienia - but if you say so :D |
| 14:10.12 | gregj | Wethrin: what would you use for that ? |
| 14:10.26 | gregj | it has to be HD backup to another HD, on another computer |
| 14:10.53 | gregj | so i thougth about simple cpio |nc and on server side inetd, and cat >file`date`.extension |
| 14:10.54 | Wethrin | tar and netcat? |
| 14:11.03 | gregj | it has to be schledued |
| 14:11.12 | Leeds | tar, netcat and cron :-) |
| 14:11.20 | gregj | s/tar/cpio/ ;] |
| 14:11.37 | Wethrin | cpio is weird :) |
| 14:11.41 | gregj | i can feed cpio with dir names and file names |
| 14:11.45 | gregj | cpio is yummy |
| 14:12.15 | Wethrin | What's a regexp to match a TAB character? |
| 14:12.22 | gregj | \t ? |
| 14:13.14 | Wethrin | Yep. thanks |
| 14:24.45 | gregj | well, i asked them for 500 |
| 14:24.50 | gregj | we'll see :D |
| 14:25.00 | Wethrin | Yeh. You can always go lower :) |
| 14:25.11 | gregj | Wethrin: any chance to get this movie before weekend :> |
| 14:25.32 | Leeds | nobody using pax? |
| 14:25.40 | Wethrin | PAXman! |
| 14:25.55 | gregj | pax ? |
| 14:26.01 | Leeds | pax |
| 14:26.06 | Leeds | man :-) |
| 14:26.12 | gregj | what is that ? |
| 14:26.24 | Wethrin | Portable Archive eXchange, or somesuch |
| 14:26.29 | Leeds | pax is the POSIX archive tool |
| 14:27.46 | Leeds | according to the Solaris man page, it's interchange... because we all know that x stands for interchange, right? |
| 14:28.30 | Wethrin | Yes. It's obvious. |
| 14:29.29 | Clyphox | Moo |
| 14:29.57 | Leeds | who let the cow in? Moo, moo moo... who let the cow in? |
| 14:30.37 | Clyphox | I use pax sometime btw |
| 14:31.02 | Leeds | Clyphox: then you're a weirdo, if you don't mind me saying so |
| 14:31.05 | Clyphox | used it to rescue my netbsd server once when I accidentally erased /use |
| 14:31.22 | Leeds | then you're a weirdo and a fool :-) |
| 14:31.37 | Clyphox | well I only use it out of interest.. I've no idea why people bother with it tbh |
| 14:32.11 | Clyphox | Hey everyone rm -rf's their /usr at least once :-P |
| 14:32.11 | Leeds | apt-cachce: command not found |
| 14:32.24 | Leeds | Clyphox: closest I've got to that is breaking libc :-) |
| 14:32.43 | Clyphox | cool |
| 14:33.12 | murb | try rm -rf / # sarch pax then |
| 14:35.17 | eye69 | Anyone know of an operator that has a campaign with cheap T610's? I know O2 sells them for 50 quid with contract. |
| 14:36.12 | Wethrin | Carphone Whorehouse phoned me up earlier today and offered me a T610 for £20 |
| 14:36.20 | Wethrin | (keeping my existing Orange contract) |
| 14:36.22 | eye69 | Ahh, nice. |
| 14:36.31 | eye69 | I'm on Orange pay-as-you-go currently. |
| 14:36.43 | eye69 | Have recently fried the charger input on my 6310 (don't ask). |
| 14:37.18 | Wethrin | Mm. Thing is, I do still quite like my 6310. |
| 14:37.27 | Leeds | Wethrin: I paid slightly more than that, but only slightly, and it was a few months ago |
| 14:37.32 | Wethrin | But I'm starting to suffer from shiny-things syndrome a bit |
| 14:37.52 | eye69 | Wethrin: Yes, it's a nice phone, but fixing it ould probably be more expensive than getting a new phone. |
| 14:38.21 | eye69 | http://shop.orange.co.uk/shop/show/offer/free_phones |
| 14:38.22 | Wethrin | Probably. |
| 14:39.45 | eye69 | I'll go into the Orange shop by Liverpool St on my way home from work. |
| 14:48.20 | Wethrin | Okay. |
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| 15:01.28 | formi | hiya |
| 15:01.44 | Wethrin | Hi |
| 15:04.48 | Clyphox | hi formi |
| 15:05.37 | formi | how is the channel, quiet as usual> |
| 15:06.03 | Wethrin | So-so. |
| 15:06.13 | Clyphox | less quiet than recently |
| 15:06.27 | Wethrin | True |
| 15:06.29 | Leeds | FOO! BAR!!! |
| 15:06.34 | eye69 | Hey formi |
| 15:06.36 | Wethrin | BAZ! |
| 15:06.37 | Wethrin | QUUZ! |
| 15:07.18 | eye69 | Yay. Just phoned Orange, and they will move my old phonenumber over to the monthly. |
| 15:07.33 | Clyphox | they can do that at last! wow |
| 15:07.46 | eye69 | Well, that's what they said. |
| 15:07.54 | eye69 | Might be getting a new phone today then. |
| 15:16.34 | Tarragon | Virgin took three weeks to move my old number. Still they gave me £100 in calls |
| 15:17.03 | Leeds | Tarragon: leaves on the line, I expect |
| 15:17.38 | Xiaoqi | lol |
| 15:21.11 | eye69 | Although, they will probably try to charge me like 150 quid in deposit because I'm not british. |
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| 16:22.09 | Clyphox|TV | Star Trek |
| 16:22.17 | Wethrin | At this time? |
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| 17:00.24 | Leeds | silly Wethrin - it's always Star Trek time |
| 17:01.59 | Wethrin | Heh |
| 17:04.32 | Leeds | about 3.33 hours to go now |
| 17:06.14 | Wethrin | DLM? |
| 17:06.37 | Leeds | Dead Like Me |
| 17:06.47 | Leeds | Dynamicallu Loadable Module |
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| 17:07.03 | Wethrin | Ah |
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| 17:46.15 | Wethrin | Hometime |
| 17:46.24 | Wethrin | Finally. Bloody Java crap. |
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| 18:16.57 | Jenson | grr why cant i connect to MSN with GAIM when other GAIM users can |
| 18:20.49 | Leeds | because you might need to have certain security packages installed in order to get full support |
| 18:21.01 | stephen | Jenson: latest gaim doesn't support the new MSN protocol |
| 18:21.37 | Leeds | stephen: yeah, it should |
| 18:22.08 | Jenson | yeh, well i havent upgraded, it just stopped working 2 days ago, but my windoes version and Clyphox's version still work |
| 18:22.59 | stephen | hmm, anyway, I've switched to amsn for the time being. However if the latest gaim works, I'll go back to that cos I dislike amsn |
| 18:23.40 | Jenson | why have i managed to sign up for the CPGB stuff 3 times, i really need to remember what ive signed upo for lol |
| 18:27.18 | Jenson | what does averyone think of all this gay Bibishop fuss? |
| 18:27.33 | Jenson | erm Bishop even |
| 18:27.36 | Jenson | bloody lag |
| 18:32.01 | stephen | I believe it's wrong to change, just because society has changed and demands that you change |
| 18:34.34 | Jenson | and i believe gay ppl are the same as anyone else |
| 18:38.28 | stephen | indeed, imho Christians should be accepting of gay people as they are of any other people, however since what they are doing is, according to the bible, a sin, they shouldn't be put into positions of leadership |
| 18:55.48 | Clyphox | I accept gay ppl. I just don't want my minister promoting it. |
| 18:57.07 | Clyphox | on the other hand I think individual communities should have the right to choose. not people in a room far far away |
| 19:00.03 | Jenson | Clyphox: i dont think you can promote gyaness, people dont choose to be gay |
| 19:01.13 | Clyphox | Well its not so much the promotion of it I dislike, just the church trend saying its ok. |
| 19:02.11 | Clyphox | Jenson: got your gaim going? |
| 19:02.11 | Jenson | well its ok as far as im concerned, but then again, i am not religious |
| 19:02.25 | Jenson | Clyphox: no lol, i just d/led the new version, will compile it olater |
| 19:02.35 | Clyphox | *cough* gentoo |
| 19:04.06 | Clyphox | Variety is the spice of life |
| 19:04.30 | Clyphox | although I appreciate old fashionism |
| 19:04.55 | Clyphox | :-P |
| 19:05.17 | Jenson | i would switch to mdk, but when i installed it on costas machine i got confused by the GUI installer |
| 19:05.35 | Clyphox | that installer is the only thing I've ever liked about it. |
| 19:05.43 | Clyphox | wish gentoo had a decent installer |
| 19:06.00 | Jenson | i like the Slack installer |
| 19:06.03 | Jenson | and the Debian one |
| 19:06.12 | Jenson | the mdk is the only other one ive seen |
| 19:06.17 | Clyphox | I wish there was a generic installer that would simply partition/format/extract and run some make files hehe |
| 19:06.24 | Clyphox | Ahh you've not lived |
| 19:06.54 | Jenson | Clyphox: when I've found the right man then I'll find the right linux distro, and im not making an effort with either ATM |
| 19:07.18 | Clyphox | you should at least see the Corel linux install hehe |
| 19:07.44 | Clyphox | I like experimenting :-) |
| 19:08.01 | Jenson | grrrr my blister is irritating.....its itching, never bite skin off blisters |
| 19:08.14 | Clyphox | ok |
| 19:08.43 | Leeds | tetris... |
| 19:08.48 | Jenson | i got it sharpeneing pencils yesterday lol |
| 19:14.09 | Jenson | fsck me, i dont even have that much free disc space lol |
| 19:14.17 | Clyphox | Leeds: what version of tetris is THAT!!!!?? |
| 19:14.27 | Leeds | I have 64Gb free, at least |
| 19:14.43 | Leeds | Clyphox: I think I was thinking of Caldera, anyway... tetris in the installer :-) |
| 19:14.59 | Jenson | i have a 20GB disc, which is a dual install |
| 19:15.46 | Leeds | I have over 200Gb of data disk (separate from system disk) in one of my machines |
| 19:16.07 | Clyphox | Leeds: ohh yeah I remember.. mandrake had something similar at some point |
| 19:16.40 | Jenson | yeh and ive got a dodgy HDD and i cant backup linux stuff coz i havent got my burner working |
| 19:16.49 | Jenson | well my burner is on my bedroom floor aTM actually |
| 19:16.52 | eye69 | One of the replacements for dselect in Debian had/have that. |
| 19:17.50 | Leeds | they are the same kind of price now as CD writers were when I first bought one |
| 19:17.59 | Clyphox | hehe |
| 19:18.07 | Clyphox | yeah even I could buy one |
| 19:19.10 | Jenson | i think our cd burner was £99 when we got it |
| 19:19.15 | Leeds | Jenson: same here |
| 19:19.41 | Leeds | I can get a DVD writer for that, including VAT and shipping |
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| 19:21.42 | Jenson | oh well, im off, need to make a phone call then watch TV |
| 19:21.45 | Jenson | I might BBL |
| 19:21.51 | Jenson | if not then I'll see you tomorrow |
| 19:21.57 | Leeds | bye... |
| 19:22.05 | Jenson | cya |
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| 19:42.51 | zachary | evening |
| 19:43.23 | Wethrin | Hi |
| 20:04.22 | murb | hmm |
| 20:06.10 | Leeds | ? |
| 20:06.44 | murb | I've still not been paid. |
| 20:06.51 | Leeds | ah |
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| 20:27.50 | Clyphox | Moo |
| 20:29.43 | eye69 | Moo to you too |
| 20:29.49 | Clyphox | thanks |
| 20:31.14 | Clyphox | how goes it? |
| 20:32.29 | eye69 | Not too bad. Thinking about my bed. I think it's lonely. |
| 20:33.02 | Clyphox | yeah I miss having a bed.. its quite a nice thing to have |
| 20:34.42 | Wethrin | Right. |
| 20:34.43 | Wethrin | Pub meeting tomorrow. |
| 20:34.53 | Wethrin | Who wants to come? |
| 20:35.02 | Clyphox | I want |
| 20:35.06 | Clyphox | but I can't sorry. |
| 20:35.11 | Wethrin | Why not? |
| 20:35.19 | Clyphox | slight cash flow problem.. |
| 20:35.22 | Wethrin | Pish. Come to the pub. |
| 20:35.22 | Clyphox | as in.. it ain't flowing |
| 20:35.36 | Clyphox | hehe |
| 20:35.42 | Clyphox | ok I'll se what I can do |
| 20:35.44 | Wethrin | Good. |
| 20:35.48 | Wethrin | I expect to see you there. |
| 20:35.56 | Clyphox | Gonna go watch some movie my mom just rented.. k19 or summing.. |
| 20:36.04 | Wethrin | And feel free to bring any of the rest of your family too :) |
| 20:36.18 | Clyphox | What time are we talking about then? |
| 20:36.26 | Clyphox | and where? Green man again? |
| 20:36.31 | Wethrin | Nah. Somewhere else would be quite nice. |
| 20:36.55 | eye69 | I would do pub if the communication between station and home wasn't so extremely crappy. |
| 20:37.15 | Wethrin | Come pubbing and forget all your transport worries :) |
| 20:37.57 | eye69 | Last bus leaves at 19.50, and it's a 16 quid cab fare if I miss it. |
| 20:38.22 | eye69 | Combine that with same problem as Clyphox. |
| 20:38.40 | Clyphox | you're welcome to crash at my place if needed/desired |
| 20:39.51 | Clyphox | I go watch mind numbing spirit crashing Television |
| 20:39.56 | eye69 | Guess that would be a solution. |
| 20:40.17 | Clyphox|TV | you're more than welcome.. I even had multiple displays and keyboards/mice |
| 20:40.36 | Clyphox|TV | (slight lack of beds but the couch ain't bad) |
| 20:40.53 | eye69 | Don't worry, I had only a couch for 8 months. :) |
| 20:41.10 | Clyphox|TV | Hell I feel sorry for myself! |
| 20:41.23 | Clyphox|TV | er "felt" |
| 20:41.30 | Clyphox|TV | anyway.. /me _really_ goes |
| 20:59.31 | Wethrin | 'night all |
| 21:00.40 | gregj | night |
| 21:01.05 | gregj | Wethrin: write this CD for me ;] |
| 21:55.23 | JD | hi all |
| 21:59.19 | gregj | JD: hey |
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| 22:21.14 | JD | anyone know how to follow symlinks in bash? |
| 22:24.09 | Tarragon | ls -l will tell you where it is linked |
| 22:24.59 | JD | yes but I was hoping for something better than that |
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| 22:32.06 | Tarragon | Anyone speak Romanian? |
| 22:34.05 | highbury | jd could you explain what you want? |
| 22:40.34 | JD | highbury: I wanted the chase command |
| 22:41.02 | highbury | could you explain what that is, or does? |
| 22:42.06 | JD | chases symlinks |
| 22:42.06 | JD | think about libraries |
| 22:43.14 | highbury | you'll need to be a bit more explicit. I've had a hard days shell-hacking, behind me |
| 22:46.09 | highbury | > more chase |
| 22:46.09 | highbury | #!/bin/sh |
| 22:46.09 | highbury | show_permissions() { |
| 22:46.09 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.10 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.12 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.14 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.16 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.18 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.21 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.22 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.24 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.27 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.29 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.31 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.32 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.36 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.38 | highbury | } |
| 22:46.42 | highbury | for file |
| 22:46.44 | highbury | do |
| 22:46.46 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.48 | highbury | done |
| 22:46.52 | highbury | :-) |
| 22:47.00 | JD | highbury: I've found the command I want |
| 22:47.07 | JD | but thanks |
| 22:47.34 | highbury | so let us know what you found... |
| 22:54.29 | Clyphox | hola |
| 23:00.57 | JD | including libraries |
| 23:02.07 | Clyphox | how? |
| 23:02.22 | Clyphox | regex/grep type stuff? |
| 23:03.44 | JD | fun bahs script |
| 23:03.51 | JD | tis actually rather short |
| 23:04.09 | JD | currently install galeon |
| 23:05.00 | JD | I can tell you that konqueror in kde3.2 uses 500K more |
| 23:05.06 | JD | vs. kde3.1.4 |
| 23:05.47 | JD | but then so does konsole |
| 23:06.20 | JD | so it may not be sutuff inkonq |
| 23:08.08 | JD | sadly I am 1h away from answering the konq vs. galeon question |
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| 23:13.30 | JD | wb |
| 23:14.56 | Clyphox | ta |
| 23:15.03 | Clyphox | dunno what happened there |
| 23:15.09 | Clyphox | 00:04 <Clyphox> may I gaze upon thine code? |
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| 23:41.55 | gregj | fscking freenode |
| 23:42.05 | gregj | JD: ever used rdiff-backup ? |
| 23:43.19 | Clyphox | whats that? sounds cruel |
| 23:43.39 | gregj | rdiff over network |
| 23:43.47 | gregj | nice python program to create backups |
| 23:43.51 | gregj | in rsync style |
| 23:43.59 | gregj | i am just trying to set it up |
| 23:44.13 | Clyphox | whats wrong with rsync? |
| 23:44.20 | gregj | my greatest concern is ssh login without passwords, i don't remember how to do this |
| 23:44.29 | gregj | i'll have to look on net for that.. |
| 23:45.07 | Clyphox | ohh unfourtinatly the last time I checked the only way to do that is by key encryption. and once set on the sshd its global for everyone |
| 23:45.24 | gregj | yep |
| 23:45.28 | gregj | it doesn't bother me |
| 23:45.37 | Clyphox | its not hard to do really.. I did it long time ago |
| 23:45.53 | Clyphox | but my memory is very poor when I don't write stuff down |
| 23:45.59 | gregj | hehe |
| 23:46.07 | gregj | that is why some ppl are writing so many howtos... |
| 23:46.21 | Clyphox | hehe |
| 23:46.28 | gregj | on the other hand, this will work only on local network |
| 23:46.31 | gregj | so fsck it |
| 23:46.38 | Clyphox | I'm actually writting a website for myself with howto's |