| 00:00.40 | Wethrin | I've heard that talk before, anyway |
| 00:01.06 | Wethrin | Only really coming to be sociable by going to the pub afterwards |
| 00:01.10 | gregj | mhm |
| 00:02.28 | murble | Wethrin: is that number certain? |
| 00:02.48 | Wethrin | The phone number? Yes. |
| 00:03.02 | Wethrin | It's mine, and I aim to keep it |
| 00:04.17 | gregj | i am comming so early mainly because zack told me that some help migth be needed |
| 00:04.31 | murble | do we all quickly go east 1 hour in about 1 hour? |
| 00:04.32 | Wethrin | Or, seeing as you'd have to leave before me, /msg me if you're going to take the 1317 |
| 00:04.37 | gregj | i am quite keen on helping in gllug meetings organisation |
| 00:06.35 | Wethrin | 12pm people will be at lunch, I'd have thought |
| 00:07.08 | Wethrin | Anyway, time for sleep |
| 00:07.29 | murble | time for read. |
| 00:08.41 | Wethrin | night all |
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| 00:18.52 | formi | evening |
| 00:19.19 | formi | what's up with the time? |
| 00:21.22 | gregj | +1h |
| 00:21.33 | formi | when ? |
| 00:21.59 | gregj | -1:21 ago |
| 00:22.13 | gregj | sorry, -:21 ago |
| 00:22.14 | formi | at 12, sounds odd |
| 00:22.14 | gregj | ;] |
| 00:22.27 | gregj | acctualy i don't know exactly |
| 00:22.38 | formi | not a 2am? |
| 00:22.39 | gregj | you'll probably find decent info on bbc.co.uk |
| 00:22.47 | formi | im already there |
| 00:23.55 | formi | can't seem to find anything? even in the weather section |
| 00:26.19 | formi | 3 * * * * /usr/sbin/ntpdate -u ntp.pipex.net > /dev/null |
| 00:26.37 | formi | well, that should sort it out! |
| 00:29.28 | formi | Im getting highly pissed off |
| 00:29.55 | formi | we have had a helicopter flying over us for the last hour and a half |
| 00:30.04 | Leeds | ah... |
| 00:30.08 | Leeds | what time is it now? |
| 00:30.21 | formi | should open the curtains and get done with it! |
| 00:30.27 | Leeds | still BST now? |
| 00:30.37 | formi | NIP |
| 00:31.02 | Leeds | NIP? |
| 00:31.07 | formi | 26 Oct 01:30:51 ntpdate[71608]: adjust time server 158.152.1.76 offset 0.307782 sec |
| 00:31.20 | murble | don't forget that is it good practive to ask permision before using random ntp servers. |
| 00:31.23 | formi | no fucking idea in gl |
| 00:31.30 | murble | formi: like demons. |
| 00:31.46 | Leeds | so it becomes GMT in about half an hour... |
| 00:31.48 | formi | i always use demon |
| 00:32.03 | murble | you're a demon customer? |
| 00:32.06 | formi | nope |
| 00:32.24 | murble | I just rember 158.152.1.65 is useful |
| 00:32.36 | Leeds | I tend to use time.apple.com :-) |
| 00:32.46 | murble | try finger time.apple.com@158.152.1.65 |
| 00:32.56 | formi | murble: at least im not a spammer |
| 00:33.02 | murble | Leeds: how are you finding new toy? |
| 00:33.18 | murble | formi: like you admit to being one :) |
| 00:33.23 | murble | 'd |
| 00:33.35 | Leeds | murble: still getting used to it - getting stuff I want installed and so on, and I'm waiting for Panther before really jumping in |
| 00:34.00 | murble | Leeds: have you got X11 in macosX working yet? |
| 00:34.00 | formi | what? heresy!! |
| 00:34.08 | murble | formi: you'd it should have said. |
| 00:34.29 | formi | murble: des-murble that sentence! |
| 00:34.31 | murble | and the :) implied i wasn't being entirly serious. |
| 00:34.36 | Leeds | I have the XF86 one installed, but not quite worked out how to use it properly - I'm planning to use the Panther-default version instead |
| 00:34.53 | murble | Leeds: oh do they include an X by default now? |
| 00:35.10 | Leeds | yes - one of the significant new things in Panther |
| 00:35.11 | murble | I think the G4 iBook ships with Panther by default. |
| 00:35.17 | murble | oh cool. |
| 00:35.24 | murble | I didn't see that in any of the reviews. |
| 00:35.34 | Leeds | hmm... BBC news page is wrong |
| 00:35.38 | murble | Leeds: and will you be able to fix the keyboard maps? |
| 00:35.41 | Leeds | I think |
| 00:35.43 | Leeds | murble: huh? |
| 00:36.27 | Leeds | if the clocks haven't changed yet, BBC News is wrong... |
| 00:36.48 | Leeds | BBC continuity just announced it correctly though :-) |
| 00:37.04 | formi | what next? first the trains. then the tube, now the bbc |
| 00:37.56 | murble | Leeds: the BBC are correct |
| 00:38.04 | murble | sinc ehtey specify GMT |
| 00:38.26 | Leeds | they specific both "GMT" and "UK" and they are currently saying they are the same |
| 00:38.35 | murble | Leeds: sorry i mean in MacOS |
| 00:38.45 | murble | with their UK keyboard not being |
| 00:38.51 | Leeds | not being what? |
| 00:38.55 | murble | as in has @ and " in the wrong place for a start. |
| 00:39.15 | murble | can you trivially remap them? |
| 00:39.52 | Leeds | I think there is a mapping tool |
| 00:40.48 | Leeds | my keyboard has @ on 2, which I'm used to, since I use a US keyboard at work, and a US happy hacking keyboard on my PC |
| 00:44.46 | gregj | gj.pointblue.com.pl/kopete/screens/ |
| 00:44.54 | gregj | and take a look at those 0.8-... |
| 00:45.03 | gregj | i've just added this bit :] |
| 00:45.27 | gregj | :-D |
| 00:45.43 | Leeds | ugh, KDE |
| 00:45.59 | gregj | and ? |
| 00:46.48 | Leeds | you're going to get it localised into English before releasing, yes? :-) |
| 00:47.33 | gregj | all text are proffreaded by english speaker |
| 00:47.55 | gregj | all bits in edit boxes are mine, and are englilesish |
| 00:48.30 | gregj | we have guys that are taking care about english in KDE, don't worry |
| 00:50.20 | gregj | if you want to proff read it, i don't mind at all |
| 00:50.34 | JD | proof :) |
| 00:51.35 | formi | I claim the cake! |
| 00:51.48 | gregj | whatsoever |
| 00:51.52 | JD | I don't think I will be coming down today |
| 00:51.55 | gregj | i am tired, and i want to go to sleep now |
| 00:52.27 | JD | gregj: it wasn;t a dig |
| 00:52.34 | JD | :) |
| 00:52.43 | gregj | Leeds: :pserver:anonymous@anoncvs.kde.org:/home/kde |
| 00:52.53 | gregj | Leeds: and cvs co kdenetwork/kopete/protocols/gadu |
| 00:52.55 | gregj | :] |
| 00:53.01 | Leeds | gregj: what are you doing? |
| 00:53.04 | gregj | or something like that |
| 00:53.33 | gregj | "if you want to proof read it, i don't mind at all" |
| 00:53.46 | Leeds | I didn't offer to proof-read it |
| 00:54.17 | gregj | you said something about english localisation before releasing... |
| 00:54.32 | gregj | so i didn't knew if you want or not :] |
| 00:54.57 | Leeds | I was suggesting that you need someone to proof-read it... not volunteering |
| 00:55.30 | gregj | oki doki, don't kill me please :] |
| 00:56.23 | Leeds | I wasn't particularly planning on killing you either :-) |
| 00:57.30 | formi | gregj: you are missing the spanish "ene" |
| 00:58.26 | formi | if "Seniorita" means what I think |
| 01:00.11 | Leeds | 1am and all's well |
| 01:01.34 | formi | I bet the bloke who has been lying on the road for 2hours minus 1hours wouldn't see it like that |
| 01:01.52 | gregj | lol, my server switched time very nicely |
| 01:01.53 | gregj | cool |
| 01:02.21 | formi | in my case gkrellm swithched without me doing anything |
| 01:03.27 | JD | 01:59 * formi jumps in the Time Machine, :-) |
| 01:03.27 | JD | 01:00 < Leeds> 1am and all's well |
| 01:03.35 | JD | there is just something wrong about that |
| 01:05.09 | formi | it takes the piss, now my birthday is just 1 hour more far away than 1 hour ago |
| 01:06.23 | formi | s/than 1 hour ago/that should be |
| 01:12.56 | JD | hmmm sleep |
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| 09:26.46 | Wethrin | Morning |
| 09:26.55 | JD | hi Dan |
| 09:27.29 | Wethrin | Hm. My Powerbook's time is still correct. It automatically adjusted for GMT |
| 09:28.21 | Wethrin | Why am I on IRC, and not still asleep? |
| 09:30.08 | JD | only you know that answer |
| 09:30.16 | JD | for me it is because I am addicted to irc |
| 09:31.49 | Wethrin | :) |
| 09:32.02 | Wethrin | Grrr. 5 spams overnight which weren't caught by Spamassassin |
| 09:32.14 | JD | only 5? |
| 09:32.17 | JD | lucky man |
| 09:32.31 | Wethrin | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:32.34 | JD | I had nearer 10 |
| 09:32.58 | Wethrin | Is it me, or is SA getting less effective? |
| 09:33.15 | JD | of course it is getting less effective |
| 09:33.19 | JD | do you not read LWN? |
| 09:33.28 | Wethrin | No |
| 09:33.32 | JD | spammers aren't stupid |
| 09:33.36 | JD | Wethrin: you should |
| 09:33.40 | JD | good read |
| 09:33.46 | Wethrin | That's even more stuff to read :) |
| 09:33.57 | JD | makes Thursdays worth getting up for |
| 09:34.01 | Wethrin | No, they just target stupid people |
| 09:34.33 | JD | SA is like virus scanners |
| 09:34.40 | Wethrin | And they're fundamentally evil people who should have both hands cut off. And their tongue cut out so they can't use a speech input |
| 09:34.46 | JD | you need to upgrade daily |
| 09:34.58 | Wethrin | Urgh. |
| 09:35.04 | JD | Wethrin: it's agood thing I know you are joking |
| 09:35.14 | Wethrin | :) |
| 09:36.45 | JD | can anyone tell me what is wrong with http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/10/21/1730244 |
| 09:37.38 | Wethrin | Modular? MODULAR?! |
| 09:37.45 | Wethrin | I'll thank you for a microkernel, dear sir. |
| 09:38.14 | Wethrin | Oh, erm. Maybe I'll read the article first :) |
| 09:38.30 | Wethrin | Even |
| 09:38.31 | Wethrin | though Linux has a monolithic kernel it has still been successfully ported to more platforms than any other operating systems. |
| 09:38.37 | Wethrin | Bzzt. Wrong. NetBSD. |
| 09:39.56 | JD | imho there is only 11ish worth noting |
| 09:40.11 | JD | if it doesn;t run debian, it isn;t a port :) |
| 09:40.29 | Wethrin | Heh |
| 09:40.44 | Wethrin | 11 NetBSD, or 11 Linux platforms? |
| 09:40.56 | JD | does it matter? |
| 09:41.09 | JD | 09:40 < JD> if it doesn;t run debian, it isn;t a port :) |
| 09:42.41 | Wethrin | And seeing as Debian NetBSD exists, then by your standards any NetBSD ports are true ports |
| 09:42.55 | JD | Wethrin: my point is that it is worthless if the kernel runs on some obscure processor |
| 09:43.14 | JD | without a sensible userspace to go with it there is no point using it |
| 09:43.31 | JD | Wethrin: well that was sort of my point too |
| 09:43.44 | JD | but there is only a i386 port of debian NetBSD |
| 09:43.53 | Wethrin | The point with NetBSD is that when it makes it into the main release tree, then all the userspace works |
| 09:44.16 | JD | well it will require a complete new set of buildds |
| 09:44.19 | Wethrin | So it is usable |
| 09:44.33 | Wethrin | Well, yes, you couldn't really get away from that |
| 09:45.09 | Wethrin | Bzzt. Don't you mean the GNU userspace? :) |
| 09:45.13 | JD | no |
| 09:47.32 | Wethrin | Have they changed it much, then? |
| 09:47.52 | JD | debian includes more than just gnu software |
| 09:48.06 | Wethrin | Even in the base install? |
| 09:48.07 | JD | a significant amount more |
| 09:48.28 | JD | gnu possibly makes up about 50% of base |
| 09:48.34 | Wethrin | Hm |
| 09:48.44 | Wethrin | Gah. I've been binged that my battery is running out |
| 09:48.50 | JD | but debian is not useable with just base |
| 09:48.56 | JD | go get power then |
| 09:49.07 | Wethrin | This requires me getting out of bed |
| 09:49.40 | JD | "My local public library no longer has a sign labeled "Library". Instead, a silhouette of a person reading a book indicates that the library is near. That's so non-literate people looking for the library will know they're getting warmer. " |
| 09:49.58 | Wethrin | Argh! Brainhurt! :) |
| 09:50.09 | Wethrin | Right. Time to get up, shower, breakfast, then back on IRC |
| 09:50.19 | JD | exactly |
| 09:50.21 | Wethrin | See you in ~ 30 mins |
| 09:50.25 | JD | bah |
| 09:50.56 | Wethrin | Or maybe I'll just bring the power cord here |
| 09:51.46 | Wethrin | Done that |
| 09:52.09 | JD | good man |
| 09:52.23 | JD | why boter with all that silly eating stuff |
| 09:52.34 | Wethrin | Hunger strikes |
| 09:52.47 | Wethrin | And dog will need to be walking in about 1.5 hours |
| 09:53.10 | JD | just kick it out the door and let it do it's stuff |
| 09:53.23 | Wethrin | Heh. He needs a bit more than that |
| 09:53.36 | JD | tie him to a passing car? |
| 09:55.06 | Wethrin | *thwap* |
| 10:07.08 | Wethrin | Ho hum |
| 10:11.19 | Wethrin | Guten morgen |
| 10:14.00 | murble | well said 486 has got as far as linking ncurses |
| 10:14.38 | JD | slow is it? |
| 10:14.41 | Wethrin | That's not so bad |
| 10:14.58 | Wethrin | At least it hasn't broken 10 minutes after you went to sleep |
| 10:16.33 | Wethrin | Using an editor and a compiler |
| 10:18.48 | Wethrin | Or was that not quite what you meant? |
| 10:21.52 | JD | well it must take them years to compile stuff |
| 10:21.56 | JD | I mean look at X |
| 10:22.16 | JD | I'm sure it used to take me 8 hours + a few years ago |
| 10:22.17 | Wethrin | They just took their time |
| 10:22.31 | Wethrin | And software tended to me smaller then, too. |
| 10:22.52 | Wethrin | Look at the difference in size between Linux 1.2.* and 2.4/2.6 |
| 10:22.53 | JD | gentoo-m68k anyone? |
| 10:23.02 | Wethrin | gentoo-vax |
| 10:25.13 | Wethrin | :) |
| 10:25.18 | Wethrin | Get a ticket. It'll help. |
| 10:26.08 | JD | yes this had occured to me |
| 10:26.46 | JD | but I would be too tempted to buy a ticket with 1,2,3,4,5,6 on it |
| 10:27.09 | JD | and then I remember what a complete waste of money it is |
| 10:27.33 | murble | JD: I certainlly used to build things such as X11 on my 486 |
| 10:46.25 | murble | Wethrin: which train did i have to catch? |
| 10:47.11 | murble | JD: they're not doing combined Oaster/Lotterie National tickets yet? |
| 10:47.17 | Wethrin | 1317 from Wycombe |
| 10:47.25 | murble | cool, i've got plenty of time. |
| 10:47.32 | Wethrin | Yep |
| 10:47.42 | murble | have to send it to someone about a job in Cork. |
| 10:47.51 | Wethrin | Urg. That reminds me to do stuff |
| 10:48.10 | Wethrin | Right. I think get up, shower, have breakfast, walk dog, then head to station |
| 10:48.59 | murble | so i don't have to leave til 1300 |
| 10:49.02 | eye69 | Wethrin: Laptops make it very easy to stay in bed. :) |
| 10:49.07 | Wethrin | eye69: Yes. |
| 10:49.24 | Wethrin | murble: Is it that quick for you to get to the station? |
| 10:49.27 | murble | I hurt my neck doing bed irc, so i have given it up. |
| 10:49.41 | murble | Wethrin: If i leave at that time. |
| 10:49.48 | eye69 | Morning greg |
| 10:49.48 | Wethrin | Okay. That's not bad, then |
| 10:49.49 | murble | rather than just start getting ready then. |
| 10:50.02 | gregj | morgen |
| 10:50.05 | Wethrin | murble: It's okay if you do it occasionally. Doing it all the time might cause neck problems |
| 10:50.06 | murble | although if you add in buying ticket flail i'd probably miss that train.. |
| 10:50.39 | Wethrin | That trains comes from Banbury, so it'd come to Platform 3, which is further away |
| 10:51.24 | murble | most london trains are Platform 3, and of course ticket office at Platform 3 is normally closed. |
| 10:51.32 | Wethrin | Yep |
| 10:51.42 | murble | and if you buy the ticket at marlyebone they won't give you a discount. |
| 10:52.05 | eye69 | Argh. Damn crap buss. Would have to take taxi to get to station today. |
| 10:52.09 | eye69 | -s |
| 10:52.16 | JD | anyone read murblish? |
| 10:52.20 | Wethrin | What? Young persons discount? |
| 10:52.37 | JD | combined Oaster/Lotterie? |
| 10:53.13 | murble | JD: as in the thing they are replacing session tickets with in London |
| 10:53.19 | JD | ? |
| 10:53.33 | murble | JD: proxim card to open ticket barriers etc, like ski pass. |
| 10:53.37 | Wethrin | Oyster |
| 10:53.42 | murble | so i can't spell. |
| 10:53.59 | JD | oh LU? |
| 10:54.31 | murble | 846 infected emails yesterday.. |
| 10:58.02 | Wethrin | Gah. I should get up. |
| 10:59.43 | eye69 | Apparently RMS was scheduled to talk in Vasa (.fi) on wed and thu, but he had slipped on the airport and broken his arm. |
| 10:59.54 | Wethrin | Yep |
| 11:01.39 | eye69 | So he has recovered enough to talk at the Uni? |
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| 11:01.51 | gregj | yes |
| 11:02.22 | Wethrin | So you shouldn't ask him to sign books? :) |
| 11:03.17 | murble | should bring along an Emacs manuel |
| 11:03.31 | eye69 | Heh. I'm just contemplating whether I should spend 20 quid on cab to get into London for the talk, so I really don't want to come there and get the message that he wont be talking. |
| 11:03.52 | Wethrin | eye69: There's pub too |
| 11:06.13 | Huhn | moin |
| 11:06.32 | highbury | morning |
| 11:06.34 | zachary | eye69: I haven't recieved a cancel message yet. So everything is a go. |
| 11:06.39 | Wethrin | moin |
| 11:13.55 | eye69 | Well, this is a solution too. Instead of having a live departure time feed to the website, Great Eastern have a webcam pointed to the departure boards. |
| 11:20.46 | eye69 | Last train leaves at 0047, so that isn't a problem. |
| 11:21.09 | eye69 | 00.55 if you want to push it. |
| 11:21.28 | murble | although with LU you never know. |
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| 11:46.20 | eye69 | I'm coming to the talk. Bye. |
| 11:46.26 | Leeds | bye |
| 12:39.25 | murble | ping Wethrin |
| 13:09.01 | Leeds | Wethrin: host not found |
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| 15:17.16 | Xiaoqi | you win! |
| 15:17.17 | Xiaoqi | erm |
| 15:17.19 | Xiaoqi | hihi |
| 15:17.22 | Xiaoqi | grr |
| 15:24.09 | JD | who wins? |
| 15:25.09 | JD | I wonder why |
| 15:25.32 | Jenson|cozmonort | coz we were round a mates place last night |
| 15:25.34 | Jenson|cozmonort | thats why |
| 15:25.49 | JD | there isn't much point telling me why because I will just make up ideas |
| 15:25.59 | Jenson|cozmonort | not the right idea you wont :) |
| 15:26.03 | Leeds | JD: not going to hear RMS? |
| 15:26.16 | Jenson|cozmonort | hi Leeds |
| 15:26.25 | JD | Jenson|cozmonort: doesn;t matter. I'm sure it will be "better" |
| 15:26.50 | JD | Leeds: well as it was meant ot be starting 60min ago and I'm currently still at home I don't think so |
| 15:26.53 | Jenson|cozmonort | JD: I'll tell you about it later babes |
| 15:27.21 | JD | Jenson|cozmonort: it won;t compare with what is currently in my head |
| 15:27.26 | Leeds | JD: well yeah... I was making conversation |
| 15:27.35 | JD | so why aren't you there? |
| 15:27.54 | Jenson|cozmonort | JD: why dont you tell me what idss in your head hon? |
| 15:28.12 | JD | no there are children present |
| 15:28.13 | Leeds | got shopping to do, going to a mate's for his birthday... heard RMS before... |
| 15:28.36 | Jenson|cozmonort | JD: on query lol |
| 15:29.46 | Jenson | seenas cozmonort isnt gonna say anything anyway |
| 15:29.56 | Jenson | besides he's just gone to the toilet |
| 15:36.59 | Jenson | cya Leeds |
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| 19:13.18 | highbury | hello |
| 19:13.34 | Huhn | hi highbury |
| 19:13.59 | highbury | anybody go to rms talk? |
| 19:14.19 | Huhn | dunno |
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| 22:28.09 | Wethrin | Hm |
| 22:34.44 | Wethrin | I went to RMS talk. |
| 22:34.48 | Wethrin | We went to pub and curry afterwards |
| 22:44.14 | highbury | how did it go? |
| 22:44.25 | Wethrin | It went quite well. |
| 22:44.32 | Wethrin | Got a large non-Gllug turnout |
| 22:53.02 | JD | was he a broken man? |
| 22:53.37 | gregj | ;] |
| 22:54.19 | Wethrin | Half |
| 22:55.55 | Clyphox | Moo |
| 22:56.10 | Wethrin | ooM |
| 22:56.12 | Wethrin | You back? |
| 22:56.23 | Clyphox | yea |
| 22:56.28 | Clyphox | just got in 3 min ago |
| 22:56.36 | Clyphox | drinking coffee and eating lunch |
| 22:57.28 | Clyphox | Wethrin: when was this RMS talk? |
| 22:57.32 | Wethrin | Today |
| 22:57.34 | Wethrin | 2.30pm |
| 22:58.10 | Clyphox | damn |
| 22:58.21 | Clyphox | was it a gllug thing? |
| 22:58.32 | Wethrin | Of course not. RMS doesn't speak to LUGs |
| 22:58.57 | JD | only to glugs |
| 22:59.42 | Wethrin | Yep |
| 23:04.29 | gregj | ;] |
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| 23:26.04 | Wethrin | Gah. |
| 23:26.20 | Wethrin | Time for a temporary ban, if this keeps happening |
| 23:28.28 | Clyphox | I told (when he was my friend) Chris not to buy a shitty router |
| 23:28.51 | Clyphox | a 486 + pci OHCI USB host + openbsd > any ADSL router |
| 23:29.56 | Wethrin | a 486 + pci OHCI USB host + openbsd still doesn't help |
| 23:30.19 | Wethrin | You still need to connect it to the ATM network via ADSL |
| 23:30.25 | Wethrin | Which still needs a router |
| 23:31.05 | Clyphox | Wethrin: I'm just talking about his connection problems... he bought a shitty router |
| 23:31.33 | Wethrin | I got a cheap wireless router |
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| 23:32.27 | Clyphox | I've installed over 3 dozen when I was at duplications.. and they are the same sitty ones as he bought |
| 23:32.36 | HuhnZzZ | nn |
| 23:32.37 | Clyphox | anyway.. its not my problem |
| 23:32.39 | Clyphox | nn |
| 23:32.53 | Wethrin | Right. If this connection gets reset, I'm putting a temporary ban on |
| 23:33.01 | Wethrin | nnH |
| 23:36.10 | Wethrin | Well, you'd still need a decent router to go with the PC |
| 23:36.26 | Wethrin | So you may as well get a router that does NAT and some firewalling, and do away with the PC |
| 23:40.24 | Clyphox | thats what a 486 + usb (for a speedtouch or other DSL modem) and oBSd is for |
| 23:41.27 | Wethrin | But they're shit modems |
| 23:41.35 | Wethrin | And the PC sucks much more power |
| 23:42.26 | Clyphox | my speedtouch has 100% uptime for 4 months. GOOD MODEMS |
| 23:42.37 | Clyphox | and when it was down so was the PC |
| 23:43.24 | Wethrin | PCs still make noise and suck power |
| 23:43.39 | Clyphox | true... thats why I like 486es |
| 23:44.09 | Wethrin | They still suck power |
| 23:44.18 | Wethrin | And have fans |
| 23:44.47 | Clyphox | mine doesn't :-) |
| 23:44.55 | Wethrin | Not even on the power supply? |
| 23:46.21 | Clyphox | yup :-) |
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| 23:47.05 | Wethrin | Okay. So the machine is quiet, give or take hard drive noise |
| 23:47.16 | JD | compact flash |
| 23:47.32 | Wethrin | But power consumption |
| 23:48.12 | JD | http://soekris.kd85.com/ |
| 23:49.27 | Clyphox | yeah I saw those boxes at the expo :-) |
| 23:49.40 | Clyphox | I'm gonna get one of the USB ones when I have some cash floating around |
| 23:52.02 | eye69 | Oi! |
| 23:52.42 | Wethrin | Oi? |
| 23:52.44 | Clyphox | Heya |
| 23:55.58 | eye69 | Wethrin: Yes, oi. |
| 23:56.32 | Wethrin | Oi, then |
| 23:59.32 | Wethrin | Right. Time for sleep, methinks. |
| 23:59.44 | Wethrin | I've printed out some bumpf about PhDs |