| 00:02.28 | Wethrin | Good night, everyone |
| 00:02.35 | eye69 | G'night. |
| 00:19.22 | Clyphox | nn |
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| 00:42.01 | Clyphox | Hi Tom |
| 00:42.16 | resuDaed | evening |
| 00:42.30 | resuDaed | s/evening/morning |
| 01:42.40 | Clyphox | bed time soon |
| 01:53.19 | resuDaed | night then Clyphox |
| 01:53.50 | Clyphox | you should sleep too mate hehe |
| 01:53.51 | Clyphox | nn |
| 01:59.01 | resuDaed | finish my book, then sleep I shall |
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| 07:13.31 | highbury | morning |
| 07:27.02 | highbury | damned printing/kmail ... keeps causing kmail hang |
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| 08:29.27 | highbury | other people seem to have spotted the bug, but failed to provide feedback, so its been marked as resolved :-( [#59634] |
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| 09:46.23 | eye69 | Morning |
| 09:48.35 | highbury | morning |
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| 10:04.08 | Xiaoqi | morning all |
| 11:28.39 | Huhn | moin |
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| 11:43.50 | Clyphox | re |
| 11:46.18 | highbury | wow! I'm trying to solve a printing problem with one of the kmail developers, and we're ltrace'ing kmail, so far 600Mb of logs, and the thing still hasn't displayed yet on the screen |
| 11:46.42 | Leeds | the job of heavy library/UI sets :-) |
| 11:49.11 | Clyphox | not mutt? I stopped using pine when I had to scroll past 2000 emails to get to todays stuff |
| 11:52.32 | eye69 | I used pine until a couple of years ago. Now I only use mutt. |
| 11:55.57 | Clyphox | likewise.. it was fun while it lasted. now I've even replaced pico with nano |
| 11:58.36 | Leeds | I'm very happy with Pine - my fingers know it well... |
| 11:58.44 | Leeds | and I use vim for editing, not pico :-) |
| 11:59.41 | Clyphox | What do you do about having lots of email in one directory? |
| 12:00.04 | highbury | how do I configure pine to do cups printing? |
| 12:00.06 | Clyphox | I usd to leave something resting on my pg-down button and go drink some coffee |
| 12:00.23 | Clyphox | highbury: cups supports some kinda lpr command surely? |
| 12:00.33 | Leeds | highbury: I use a2ps to print mail |
| 12:00.57 | Leeds | Clyphox: I'm not sure what you mean - you can jump to the end, or jump to the next new mail and stuff like that pretty easily |
| 12:01.16 | highbury | what recipe do you confuigure into pine, also how can I get a2ps not to prune all my headers |
| 12:01.16 | Clyphox | how? I couldn't find a button? |
| 12:01.28 | Leeds | and I do use procmail to filter my mail on delivery anyway... |
| 12:01.32 | Leeds | Clyphox: j for jump? |
| 12:02.04 | Clyphox | I'll try that one day maybe.. ta |
| 12:02.06 | Leeds | highbury: I told it that the default printer command on my system was "a2ps -= mail -q -P flintstone" where flintstone is the printer |
| 12:02.41 | Leeds | as for headers, I assume that will depend on whether Pine is in "show full headers" mode when you print or not... |
| 12:03.32 | Leeds | maybe not... |
| 12:18.28 | highbury | where was that a2ps command configured leeds? |
| 12:20.34 | highbury | I tried printing a raw email with a2ps and it removed most of the headers :-( |
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| 12:26.11 | Clyphox | WEEEE!! I have a monitor!!! |
| 12:29.55 | eye69 | Clyphox: Congrats :) |
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| 12:30.27 | Leeds | highbury: m(enu) s(etup) p(rinter) and I have it set as the default print command |
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| 12:30.52 | Leeds | and yeah, it seems to strip headers... |
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| 12:46.48 | Leeds | Clyphox: you alright? |
| 12:47.32 | Clyphox | yeah.. having some weird irssi issues |
| 12:47.45 | Clyphox | think maybe I connected twice or something.. its ok now |
| 12:48.09 | Clyphox | (so lets call it a user issue heh) |
| 12:50.19 | Clyphox | (I assume thats why you asked?) |
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| 12:54.12 | Clyphox | re zachary |
| 12:54.22 | Leeds | yes |
| 12:54.23 | zachary | hey Clyphox |
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| 12:55.22 | Clyphox | I was just making sure my ignore list loads automaticly... first time I've _had_ to use it sadly :-( |
| 12:55.43 | Clyphox | eddie07: do you work for google!?!? |
| 12:55.52 | Clyphox | Hi btw :-) |
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| 12:57.53 | Clyphox | I wannaa google.com hostname |
| 13:00.20 | Leeds | don't chase away the google employees :-) |
| 13:05.01 | Clyphox | I feel bad... truely |
| 13:06.32 | Leeds | he came in here looking for - who knows? friendship, Linux help, community - and you pestered him until he left! |
| 13:07.10 | Clyphox | Maybe he was even researching a google irc bot!!?! |
| 13:07.12 | murble | maybe it is part of a project to make irc searchable? |
| 13:07.29 | Leeds | maybe you both had the same idea at the same time!!!! ;-) |
| 13:08.01 | Clyphox | maybe its part of a secret google pyschic test? |
| 13:08.25 | Clyphox | to make it guesse what you want before even you know what you want |
| 13:08.41 | murble | make buildworld still isn't finished! |
| 13:08.46 | highbury | a DWIM Internet Browser |
| 13:10.31 | Clyphox | should I msg hom and ask him to come back? |
| 13:11.25 | Leeds | well... he seems to be walking the network somewhat... |
| 13:18.18 | Leeds | bloody hell netscape 4 is horrible |
| 13:19.07 | Clyphox | not 5 years ago it wasn't |
| 13:21.35 | Leeds | 'tis now though |
| 13:21.50 | Clyphox | so why does anyone use it? |
| 13:22.06 | Leeds | considering, for example, pretty much everything else on my machine is using anti-aliased, or at least truetype fonts... |
| 13:22.23 | Leeds | because one particular site wouldn't show me maps of Paris in Firebird? |
| 13:23.41 | highbury | konqueror now sucks big time, it keeps popping up kwrite windows when it used to open files in place. I'm moving over to mozilla/firebird |
| 13:30.33 | eye69 | Firebird is nice., |
| 13:38.50 | murble | highbury: sounds more like your config being slighly broken? |
| 13:53.57 | agk | SuSE/Novell ? http://www.linuxworld.com/story/35554.htm |
| 13:54.34 | agk | [dated Friday, BTW] |
| 14:04.11 | Leeds | agk: yeah, I noticed that... |
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| 14:14.27 | formi | alo! |
| 14:14.43 | Clyphox | alo alo |
| 14:15.06 | Leeds | listen very carefully... |
| 14:15.39 | formi | does anybody know if it possible to force a win2k client to renew it's dhcp lease from the win2k server? |
| 14:16.00 | Clyphox | I do |
| 14:16.41 | formi | how may I ask? |
| 14:17.10 | Clyphox | well I don't know exactly how. but it is possible |
| 14:17.18 | Clyphox | I'll investigate.. one moment |
| 14:17.30 | murble | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:18.13 | Clyphox | *nod* |
| 14:18.18 | formi | Im asking from the server |
| 14:18.28 | formi | I have no access to the clients |
| 14:18.36 | Clyphox | it is also wise to do ipconfig /release if its still acting up |
| 14:19.07 | Clyphox | formi: the only control a server has (afaik) is the dhcp renew setting |
| 14:19.31 | murble | formi: are they a member of a domain that the server controls? |
| 14:19.43 | murble | and do you have a domain user that is an administrator on the clients? |
| 14:20.38 | formi | murble: no, I only have admin on the server |
| 14:21.14 | murble | can you go arround and turn them off? |
| 14:21.39 | murble | first thing you should do is massivly reduce lease time if you need to renumber. |
| 14:21.46 | murble | to somthing like 10 minutes. |
| 14:21.46 | formi | I don't fancy a trip to zone 6 |
| 14:22.16 | formi | the old lease was 30 days, and I changed it to 30 min |
| 14:22.17 | murble | formi: your best bet is to reduce the dhcp lease times you are handing out. |
| 14:22.36 | murble | do you know what lease time the clients request by default? |
| 14:22.37 | formi | but until the old lease expieres |
| 14:22.49 | formi | murble: no idea |
| 14:23.11 | murble | doesn't the gui thing tell you what leases have been given out for how long? |
| 14:25.12 | formi | i can see some reservations |
| 14:26.12 | formi | and I deleted the ones that I wanted to renew that it doesn't they were renewed |
| 14:26.20 | nasrat | formi: ISTR netsh can give you active leases |
| 14:27.53 | formi | i'll try that |
| 14:32.04 | Leeds | right, lunchtime... |
| 14:37.05 | formi | what i got is a "dhcp dump failed" |
| 14:41.09 | formi | i suppose i'll get on the phone and get done with it |
| 14:48.05 | highbury | I'm gettting the bottom of my pages truncated by a2ps !!! :-( |
| 14:50.21 | Leeds | tell it you're using A4? |
| 14:50.30 | highbury | yep |
| 14:50.32 | Leeds | tell it your printer's margins? |
| 14:50.46 | highbury | ahh where |
| 14:51.43 | Leeds | no idea :-) |
| 14:51.52 | Leeds | Works For Me [TM] |
| 15:12.06 | highbury | ok gotta reboot, cos of printing problems |
| 15:20.58 | Leeds | http://www.danacentre.org.uk/ hmm... |
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| 17:45.29 | gregj | re |
| 17:45.58 | Wethrin | re |
| 17:46.15 | gregj | wazup |
| 17:47.09 | Clyphox | re |
| 17:47.53 | Wethrin | I get too many spams, even through Spamassassin :( |
| 17:47.59 | gregj | uu |
| 17:49.34 | Wethrin | Oh dear. |
| 17:50.02 | Wethrin | "VERIFY YOUR E-MAIL ON LLOYDS BANK" |
| 17:50.20 | Wethrin | Looks very official,, etc. BUT....I don't have an account with Lloyds TSB, and never have done |
| 17:50.25 | Wethrin | And the URL is |
| 17:50.31 | murble | Wethrin: You need MailAssassin (tm) |
| 17:50.34 | Wethrin | http://www.lloydstsb.com:ac-x6LC0IQr2aBda1XBALgF@ak3g7lri.cjb.net/?LdZJtDpTt8z1elD |
| 17:51.22 | murble | who is going to think lloyds have antying to do with cjb.net redirection services? |
| 17:51.40 | Wethrin | People who look at the first part of the URL and real 'www.lloydstsb.com' |
| 17:51.53 | murble | hmm but that is a username |
| 17:52.03 | Wethrin | Yes. I know that, you know that. |
| 17:52.08 | Wethrin | But the average punter doesn't know that. |
| 17:52.26 | murble | well then they should learn about how well formed URLs work. |
| 17:52.44 | murble | would also reduce mistakes on such things as adverts, business cards etc. |
| 17:53.04 | Wethrin | Oh dear. "...entering in the small window your Lloyds Customer Number, Passnumber and Memorable Data" |
| 17:53.24 | gregj | http://www.lloydstsb.com/security.asp |
| 17:53.25 | Wethrin | Some people are going to find their accounts drained of money |
| 17:54.45 | gregj | yep |
| 17:55.34 | gregj | world didn't grow-up to use internet yet , this will proff :] |
| 17:56.02 | Wethrin | People who send those types of emails ought to be shot |
| 17:56.52 | gregj | yep |
| 17:56.55 | murble | I notice that that link doesn't work anymore.. |
| 17:57.40 | Wethrin | That's good, at least :) I guess Lloyds spoke with cjb.net |
| 18:04.23 | murble | no, it still redirects elsewhere. |
| 18:04.28 | JD | hi all |
| 18:04.33 | JD | Jenson|Away: ping |
| 18:04.39 | murble | quiet. |
| 18:04.50 | murble | don't wake the away! |
| 18:04.57 | Wethrin | Specially not her |
| 18:05.04 | JD | but i want her |
| 18:05.09 | JD | want I tell you |
| 18:05.10 | Wethrin | Odd person. |
| 18:05.16 | JD | yes she is really |
| 18:05.36 | murble | what do you want her for? |
| 18:05.44 | Wethrin | murble: Wouldn't ak3d7lri.cjb.net be handled by cjb's DNS servers? |
| 18:06.13 | murble | Wethrin: they have a wildcard |
| 18:06.14 | murble | a |
| 18:06.27 | Wethrin | Ah. |
| 18:07.09 | JD | murble: http://www.bmezine.com/pierce/11-surface/A31005/high/corset18.jpg |
| 18:07.35 | murble | JD: I don't open random jpgs people paste to irc. |
| 18:07.50 | JD | murble: it is fairly sfw |
| 18:07.51 | eye69 | murble: I didn't get around to phoning that recruiter today, but I will phone him tomorrow. Actually, could try phoning him now. |
| 18:08.06 | murble | eye69: if you had time, it would be cool. |
| 18:08.10 | JD | murble: it is a naked back |
| 18:08.18 | JD | fairly inoffensive |
| 18:08.36 | eye69 | murble: I got a phonecall about a job in Cambridge a few minutes ago. :) |
| 18:08.40 | murble | JD: and that is the reason you wannted Jenson ? |
| 18:08.49 | JD | murble: yep |
| 18:09.02 | JD | Wethrin: nope |
| 18:09.11 | murble | JD: how do you know? |
| 18:09.16 | JD | http://www.bmezine.com/pierce/11-surface/spbody004.html |
| 18:09.16 | murble | did you take the photo? |
| 18:09.22 | JD | http://www.bmezine.com/pierce/11-surface/spbody003.html |
| 18:09.30 | Wethrin | Eww. I can see why she might like that then |
| 18:09.40 | JD | Wethrin: exactly |
| 18:10.10 | eye69 | murble: He'd left the office, but I left him a message to phone me. |
| 18:13.16 | Wethrin | You've chased him off |
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| 18:13.31 | JD | wb |
| 18:13.32 | Wethrin | wb |
| 18:13.37 | JD | snap |
| 18:13.46 | gregj | ;] |
| 18:13.47 | Wethrin | Crackle |
| 18:14.24 | JD | pop? |
| 18:14.32 | Leeds | ah-ha! |
| 18:14.50 | gregj | eureka ? |
| 18:14.53 | Wethrin | Goes the weasel |
| 18:15.55 | Leeds | eureka goes the weasel??? freak... |
| 18:16.29 | Wethrin | What if it was a Greek weasel? |
| 18:16.39 | Leeds | which had lost its towel? |
| 18:16.45 | Wethrin | Yes |
| 18:16.51 | Wethrin | And was in an overflowing bath |
| 18:17.49 | *** mode/#gllug [+o Wethrin] by ChanServ |
| 18:17.56 | *** topic/#gllug by Wethrin -> Greater London LUG. Next meeting: 1st November, Westminster Uni (Installfest). http://www.gllug.ukfsn.org |
| 18:17.58 | Leeds | have you ever tried to bath a weasel??? |
| 18:17.59 | *** mode/#gllug [-o Wethrin] by Wethrin |
| 18:18.12 | Wethrin | You could drop it in from a great height |
| 18:18.39 | gregj | hehee |
| 18:18.45 | Leeds | flat wet weasel? |
| 18:19.00 | Wethrin | Yes |
| 18:19.34 | Leeds | so is eureka the noise a weasel makes as it dies from being dropped from a great height, while wet and missing a towel? |
| 18:19.51 | Wethrin | Can you prove otherwise? :) |
| 18:20.01 | Leeds | hmmm... |
| 18:20.31 | Wethrin | And a research topic |
| 18:21.50 | Leeds | "I intend to answer, once and for all, the question of what noise is made by dripping, dropping, towel-less weasels" |
| 18:22.30 | Leeds | I shall need to puchase a large number of weasels, baths and towels (to confirm the state of towellessness) and travel to large buildings all over the world |
| 18:23.01 | Wethrin | Yes. |
| 18:31.35 | JD | Wethrin: I'm not entirely sure you can get research grants for converstion courses |
| 18:32.12 | Wethrin | No, because they're taught and not research. |
| 18:32.20 | Wethrin | But look at the next comment :) |
| 18:32.50 | JD | oh right |
| 18:32.58 | JD | I'm hoping I can get a research grant |
| 18:33.04 | Wethrin | And a research topic? |
| 18:33.09 | JD | nope |
| 18:33.16 | Wethrin | Just the money? :) |
| 18:33.21 | JD | MSc Advanced Computing |
| 18:33.29 | JD | taught course |
| 18:33.38 | Wethrin | You might get a grant for it. |
| 18:33.42 | Wethrin | But not a research grant |
| 18:33.42 | JD | yep |
| 18:33.51 | JD | grant from research council |
| 18:33.58 | JD | it is eligable |
| 18:33.58 | Wethrin | w00t |
| 18:34.21 | Wethrin | From where? |
| 18:34.24 | JD | ic.ac.uk |
| 18:34.28 | Wethrin | ic |
| 18:34.29 | Wethrin | :) |
| 18:34.36 | JD | Wethrin: you doing anything on 21th Nov? |
| 18:34.44 | JD | fancy wondering arund ic? |
| 18:35.05 | Wethrin | Ah...daytime I'll be working for SUSE |
| 18:35.18 | JD | you what? tart |
| 18:35.21 | Wethrin | :) |
| 18:35.38 | Wethrin | But I'll see possibly about shifting some hours around and coming to IC |
| 18:35.44 | JD | :) |
| 18:35.46 | Wethrin | Is it a general postgrad open day? |
| 18:35.49 | JD | yep |
| 18:35.54 | Wethrin | Excellent. |
| 18:36.00 | Wethrin | Can we visit the EE department, then? :) |
| 18:36.28 | JD | I believe so |
| 18:36.45 | Wethrin | Good...I think they have interesting research |
| 18:36.59 | Wethrin | I was going to knock on a few doors at UCL's EE dept this Thursday |
| 18:42.13 | JD | I would |
| 18:43.19 | Xiaoqi | hihi |
| 18:47.29 | JD | hi nikki |
| 18:49.24 | zimm|afk | hey Xiaoqi |
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| 19:10.37 | Clyphox | re Leeds |
| 19:10.46 | Leeds | hi |
| 19:11.32 | Wethrin | Heh |
| 19:12.51 | Clyphox | woops I forgot |
| 19:13.03 | Clyphox | can't just change the Nic with blueyonder |
| 19:13.12 | Clyphox | they suck.. gotta keep the same mac address |
| 19:13.55 | Leeds | my ADSL modem/router has a MAC spoofing thing - could really mess up a network with that, I think |
| 19:14.28 | Wethrin | Heh |
| 19:15.59 | Clyphox | well all it takes iirc with linux is : ifconfig ethX IP MAC_ADD |
| 19:16.02 | Clyphox | to spoof I mean |
| 19:16.41 | Leeds | it never got updated AFAIK |
| 19:21.04 | Jenson | JD: pong |
| 19:21.18 | JD | this might cheer yo uup then |
| 19:21.23 | Leeds | ha |
| 19:23.37 | Wethrin | Stress? Ha. |
| 19:24.03 | JD | Wethrin: tensile or compressed? |
| 19:25.20 | Wethrin | Tesnile, if anything. |
| 19:25.29 | Wethrin | I have some sometimes. |
| 19:25.41 | Wethrin | I'm not stressed now. But sometimes I have need to be :) |
| 19:27.14 | Wethrin | Hi nasrat |
| 19:27.32 | Jenson | hiya nasrat |
| 19:27.43 | nasrat | hi ppl |
| 19:28.22 | Wethrin | nasrat: Lonix meeting possibility of being on 6th November. Will you be there? |
| 19:28.57 | nasrat | Wethrin: possibly not been to Lonix for a while. Any reason? |
| 19:29.16 | Wethrin | nasrat: It has beer and curry. What more reason would there be? :) |
| 19:29.49 | nasrat | Wethrin: you might have a burning desire to do sick things with rpm :) |
| 19:30.05 | Wethrin | Look, just because I work for SUSE |
| 19:30.55 | nasrat | Wethrin: yeah well you might want to know what goes on inside jbj's head |
| 19:31.07 | Wethrin | jbj? |
| 19:31.20 | nasrat | Jeff Johnson rpm maintainer |
| 19:31.27 | Wethrin | Ah. |
| 19:31.32 | nasrat | brb |
| 19:32.32 | Wethrin | murble: Remind me on Wednesday afternoon. Or email dankolb@suse.co.uk, and I'll see if it's in Bugzilla |
| 19:33.34 | Leeds | ah-ha!!! captive lizard-lover |
| 19:33.57 | Wethrin | Whatwhat? |
| 19:33.58 | JD | sorry? |
| 19:34.16 | murble | oh the lizards are taking over the earth. |
| 19:34.27 | murble | s/are/have/ |
| 19:34.38 | Wethrin | have taking? |
| 19:35.46 | Leeds | that's obviously a correction from English to murblish |
| 19:36.04 | Wethrin | Yes |
| 19:37.57 | murble | oh just an Ike conspiracy. |
| 19:38.51 | Leeds | yes... |
| 19:39.03 | Wethrin | Have you taken over the earth yet? |
| 19:39.31 | Wethrin | Is there any advantage to 45rpm compared to 33rpm records? |
| 19:40.31 | Leeds | Wethrin: yes, we have: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/EJ28Aa02.html |
| 19:42.28 | Wethrin | :) |
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| 20:05.43 | Wethrin | Hi BorgBaby |
| 20:05.51 | BorgBaby | Hi |
| 20:05.56 | Wethrin | How goes? |
| 20:06.07 | BorgBaby | ah, 'tis you... ;) |
| 20:06.17 | Wethrin | Yes, it's me :) |
| 20:06.28 | BorgBaby | Not bad, but having probs setting up a BT adsl modem |
| 20:06.37 | Wethrin | A squashed frog thing? |
| 20:06.53 | BorgBaby | squashed frog? |
| 20:08.42 | Leeds | Wethrin: a complex power? |
| 20:09.33 | Leeds | BorgBaby: stingray, green blob, etc. |
| 20:09.39 | BorgBaby | a-ha... |
| 20:15.49 | Wethrin | Leeds: Yes |
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| 21:20.48 | Clyphox | yay openbsd |
| 21:21.56 | Wethrin | Yay emacs :) |
| 21:26.06 | Clyphox | yay pf :-) |
| 21:28.03 | Wethrin | Yes |
| 21:28.26 | Wethrin | Muaha. My talk to Gllug about OpenBSD gained (at least) one convert :) |
| 21:31.30 | Clyphox | I wasn't there btw |
| 21:31.42 | Wethrin | That's no excuse ;-) |
| 21:35.15 | Wethrin | w00t. Two converts :) I'm doing well here. |
| 21:35.38 | Wethrin | Anyway. Dead Ringers. BBC2. Now. Must watch |
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| 21:45.28 | Clyphox | Hi tom |
| 21:45.33 | resuDaed | evening |
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| 22:47.54 | Wethrin | 'night all |
| 22:48.29 | resuDaed | night |
| 22:48.40 | stephen | nn Wethrin |
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