00:13.33 | Jenson | night all |
00:20.25 | axelS-AFK | gn8 all |
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00:25.47 | highbury | is there any filesystem specific irc channels, specifically ext2 or ext3? |
00:31.13 | gregj | dunno |
00:32.06 | murble | highbury: are you after people with a clue about data recovery? |
00:37.42 | highbury | yes murble |
00:38.39 | highbury | although I'm getting close to recovering the data, I can see some of the files, I just can't run fsck without getting superblock complaints about my partition size being wrong |
00:39.08 | murble | highbury: have you tried copying the files off with debugfs? |
00:39.58 | highbury | its a lot of files on a very big partition (> 80GB) so I have no where to put them :-( |
00:40.59 | murble | well the first rule with that kind of thing is to try and make a image of the fs before you change anything :( |
00:41.11 | murble | there is a mailing list though that could be helpful |
00:41.30 | murble | ext3users |
00:41.56 | highbury | hmmm. 80Gb image.... I can't afford a blu-ray dvd :-) |
00:43.48 | highbury | ok going to try one more time to fix this, see you guys later |
00:43.53 | Jenson | all i wana do is sleep, but no, the fscking mouse does insist on running around the floor rattling stuff |
00:44.47 | highbury | we just caught out mouse, using a nice trap, which doesn't harm the mouse. |
00:45.06 | Jenson | highbury: we caught 12 with that method, now resoted to evil trap |
00:45.13 | Jenson | *resorted |
00:45.24 | Jenson | the heave dug holes into the walls |
00:45.27 | murble | what and proptly drowned it, or cut its head off? |
00:45.33 | highbury | thats a lot of mice for a bedroom |
00:45.44 | highbury | released it outside |
00:45.44 | Jenson | highbury: that was the kitchen |
00:45.49 | Jenson | but they are infesting the house |
00:46.17 | highbury | sounds like a job for professionals |
00:46.25 | Jenson | highbury: yeh, i said that |
00:46.32 | Jenson | we had a bee infestation once |
00:46.37 | Jenson | 600 bees in the chimney |
00:46.40 | highbury | plus follow-up to check your not doing anything to encourage them |
00:47.11 | Jenson | highbury: we think they got in through gaps before we put in new skirting board |
00:47.31 | murble | our cat seems to cause most of our house in mouse incidents |
00:47.33 | Jenson | i think we only had one mouse during the whole time we had a cat |
00:47.37 | murble | or the otherway round |
00:47.43 | murble | as in she brings them in to play with. |
00:47.54 | Jenson | murble: yeh. my cat used to bring them in and cry when we took them away |
00:48.04 | Jenson | now we dont have a cat, so we have a live mouse infestation |
00:48.09 | highbury | likewise, we have plenty of escapees |
00:48.32 | highbury | anyway gotta fo, bye |
00:48.38 | Jenson | cya highbury |
00:48.49 | murble | nn |
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00:54.07 | Jenson | right im gonna go try sleep in the spare bedroom and hope the mice leave me alone |
00:54.10 | Jenson | i might be back |
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09:14.20 | Wethrin | Morning |
09:27.57 | JD | hi |
09:39.35 | Wethrin | So. Fedora's out. |
09:41.04 | Wethrin | Is it mirrored somewhere yet? |
09:44.51 | JD | Wethrin: why do you care? |
09:45.14 | Wethrin | Want to try it out here, to see how much better SUSE^WNovell is |
09:45.16 | Wethrin | :) |
09:45.29 | JD | oh yes you work for novell now don't you |
09:45.54 | Wethrin | Yep |
09:46.00 | JD | hahahhahahahahahahahahah |
09:46.04 | Wethrin | Heh |
09:46.21 | JD | dan.kolb@novell.co.uk? |
09:46.59 | Wethrin | Nope. Still dankolb@suse.co.uk |
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10:10.19 | Wethrin | Oi |
10:15.17 | Wethrin | http://www.sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html |
10:15.22 | zachary | moin gregj Wethrin |
10:15.30 | gregj | iou |
10:16.04 | gregj | JD: it might not be funny, they might go for gnome instead of KDE in suse.. |
10:16.28 | JD | gregj: but then they would need to sack half their workforce |
10:16.37 | gregj | hehe |
10:17.06 | gregj | and the only very reason novell wants gnome/ximian is because of mono |
10:17.08 | Wethrin | They got Ximian, not for Gnome, but for their RedCarpet and other software |
10:17.11 | Wethrin | That too |
10:18.41 | JD | maybe they could get freedesktop.org progressing more |
10:19.03 | gregj | they should |
10:19.14 | gregj | but corporations do not like term "standart" |
10:21.11 | gregj | and the word "share" scares them away |
10:21.38 | gregj | Wethrin: i've send few complains to kopete packager for Suse, see if they are going to answer me at all |
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10:23.37 | axelS | re |
10:24.00 | Wethrin | re |
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10:46.43 | jason_ukfsn | hi all |
10:47.08 | Wethrin | hi |
10:48.39 | JD | gregj: I would blame kopete upstream |
10:55.31 | zachary | hey jason_ukfsn |
10:55.49 | gregj | JD: sure |
10:56.06 | gregj | what is better about *BSD pf ? |
10:56.28 | gregj | i though that iptables are fully statefull, and now some guy is telling me that they are not |
10:56.31 | gregj | hmm |
10:58.08 | JD | gregj: aiui it isn;t proper stateful, but it is near enough |
10:58.26 | JD | proper stateful is expensive (computationally) |
10:58.36 | gregj | sure |
10:58.47 | gregj | so this means that i can cheat it somehow |
11:02.27 | Wethrin | gregj: pf is readable |
11:03.11 | gregj | readable ? |
11:03.19 | gregj | and iptables aren't ? |
11:03.22 | gregj | isn't |
11:03.24 | gregj | i mean |
11:03.24 | gregj | :] |
11:08.16 | Wethrin | No :) |
11:10.01 | JD | iptables -A INPUT --protocol tcp --destination port 25 |
11:10.06 | JD | -j DROP |
11:10.08 | gregj | wlasnie |
11:10.12 | gregj | ;P |
11:11.40 | JD | iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -dport 25 -j DROP |
11:12.36 | Wethrin | You're still not going to make me switch |
11:13.30 | JD | Wethrin: I'm not trying to |
11:13.30 | Wethrin | I've seen far too many completely unreadable scripts |
11:13.33 | Wethrin | :) |
11:14.08 | JD | gregj: iptables |
11:16.56 | Wethrin | pf is stateful |
11:20.13 | jason_ukfsn | morninh Huhn |
11:20.17 | jason_ukfsn | morning even |
11:20.59 | Huhn | moin moin |
11:21.16 | gregj | JD: well, some guy is arguing that it isn't, and i should use freebsd... |
11:21.20 | gregj | but i don't like bsd |
11:21.33 | gregj | i don't want to commit suicide (yet) |
11:21.36 | Wethrin | BSD is goooood :) |
11:21.51 | Wethrin | And you can even get KDE with it |
11:22.06 | JD | gregj: it isn;t proper stateful but it works (all?)situations |
11:22.10 | gregj | i got better things to do in my life than spending 10x times more on configuration, and having system that does not have 10% of what i have atm |
11:22.23 | gregj | JD: well, i am tired to argue |
11:22.27 | Wethrin | What's the 90% that it's missing, then? |
11:22.44 | gregj | drivers, software and freedom |
11:22.59 | gregj | bsd licence is not free, and i don't want to talk about it |
11:23.06 | Wethrin | 90% of your hardware is not supported by FreeBSD, and is supported by Linux? |
11:23.09 | gregj | openbsd does not work on 90% of hardware |
11:23.38 | gregj | and besides, bsd is simply not cool |
11:23.39 | Wethrin | That's not true |
11:24.13 | axelS | hi all, anybody here got experience with openldap? |
11:24.23 | Wethrin | Yes. Not very good. |
11:25.01 | JD | Wethrin: alternative? |
11:25.15 | Wethrin | NDS :-P |
11:25.21 | axelS | NDS? |
11:25.33 | Wethrin | Novell Directory Services |
11:25.38 | axelS | ah |
11:25.41 | axelS | sounds bad ;) |
11:25.45 | Wethrin | HEh. |
11:25.52 | JD | Wethrin: whore |
11:25.54 | nasrat | Doesn't apple have some patches against openldap for opendirectory - should be on opendarwin site |
11:26.01 | Wethrin | OpenLDAP isn't too bad, if you can find a decent frontend |
11:26.01 | axelS | hmm |
11:26.13 | Wethrin | Or waste weeks of your life writing lots of LDIF files |
11:26.38 | axelS | well, my primary concern is getting the server up first - that slapd.conf makes no sense to me :( |
11:27.01 | axelS | i need to put up a directory server so that people can share the contacts db |
11:27.06 | JD | axelS: it requires many many hours of re-reading until yo uabsorb it by osmosis |
11:27.12 | axelS | thanks Wethrin |
11:27.16 | JD | Wethrin: stop whoring |
11:27.18 | Wethrin | The Sun iPlanet DS works quite well |
11:27.18 | axelS | JD: true |
11:27.28 | Wethrin | JD: I'm not. I'm pimping. |
11:27.32 | axelS | hi jason_ukfsn |
11:27.36 | axelS | hehe |
11:27.55 | axelS | openldap seems to work fine in both outlook (yak) and evo/moz/etc |
11:28.02 | axelS | that's what I've heard anyway |
11:28.12 | Wethrin | Yes, if you can set it up :) |
11:28.17 | axelS | indeed |
11:28.37 | axelS | what other options do i have? |
11:28.51 | axelS | it needs to work with outlook/moz/evo... addressbooks |
11:28.57 | jason_ukfsn | Wethrin: it's not hard to setup. The only interesting bit is ensuring that the applications you are using and the scheme you have for them match - different versions of apps require different schema |
11:29.31 | jason_ukfsn | samba being a particularly "interesting" case in this respect. |
11:30.06 | gregj | hehe |
11:30.22 | gregj | Wethrin: suse should give this configuration tool to community |
11:30.35 | Wethrin | Which configuration tool? |
11:30.39 | gregj | before novell will put it's hands on it |
11:30.59 | gregj | Wethrin: one that is probably in enterprise release |
11:32.05 | Wethrin | Ah, well, it's not really free, AIUI |
11:32.13 | gregj | mhm |
11:32.32 | gregj | configuration of openldap is painfull |
11:32.44 | Wethrin | Ah. It's not an LDAP configuration tool as such |
11:32.50 | gregj | even for someone that did that before, and set's up new schema |
11:32.55 | Wethrin | It's a general server config tool |
11:32.59 | gregj | i see |
11:33.50 | axelS | i gather openldap is my only choice unless i want to pay money... |
11:34.06 | Wethrin | Sun iPlanet. Or is that only available as a trial download? |
11:34.11 | axelS | trail only |
11:34.26 | axelS | i just want a shared addressbook *cry* |
11:34.40 | Wethrin | Ah. iPlanet works nicely :) |
11:34.48 | Wethrin | So, apparently, does Lotus Notes |
11:34.51 | Wethrin | Err, Domino |
11:34.53 | axelS | yes, but it costs money |
11:35.09 | axelS | loads of money - plus it's heavy |
11:35.20 | JD | openldap is hardly light |
11:35.43 | axelS | at least it's not a 100mb+ package |
11:36.13 | Wethrin | What, you want things to be done for free *and* be easy? |
11:36.43 | axelS | lol |
11:37.06 | axelS | as in beer ;) |
11:37.53 | Wethrin | Bah. You've been treated far too well with KDE, sir :) |
11:38.01 | gregj | hehe |
11:38.02 | Wethrin | All this eye candy and ease-of-use |
11:38.04 | axelS | me? i'm using gnome |
11:38.09 | Wethrin | Just as bad :) |
11:38.15 | JD | Wethrin: and we should be using cde? |
11:38.20 | Wethrin | Teletypes for all, I say! |
11:38.24 | Wethrin | Bring back the ASR33s! |
11:38.25 | axelS | hehe |
11:38.31 | JD | Wethrin: I have a vt320 |
11:38.45 | Wethrin | JD: I've got two. And some other VTs, too. |
11:38.56 | Wethrin | Pedantically, they're serial terminals, not teletypes |
11:38.59 | JD | Wethrin: it was the most useful thing I got from uni |
11:39.10 | Wethrin | More useful than the degree? |
11:39.16 | JD | Wethrin: I never remember saying they were |
11:39.32 | JD | Wethrin: a piece of paper? |
11:39.41 | Wethrin | It could be implied by the juxtaposition of your comment to mine |
11:40.04 | axelS | jason_ukfsn: how hard would it be to get oldap working with outlook and moz? ...for a novice ;) |
11:40.08 | Wethrin | I have a VT520, but I've nabbed the keyboard off that - a rather nice PS/2 job |
11:40.27 | JD | does it do 132 character? |
11:40.50 | Wethrin | Probably. I think all DEC terminals > 200 did wide mode |
11:40.56 | jason_ukfsn | axelS: when you say working with exactly what do you mean? For searching an existing directory it should be fairly straight forward. |
11:40.57 | Wethrin | (or condensed, if you prefer) |
11:42.17 | axelS | jason_ukfsn: i need to import an existing contacts db (cvs) and get it to work in moz and outlook address book |
11:43.10 | Wethrin | Mm. But how much would hte colour get used? |
11:43.44 | JD | in vim, lots |
11:43.50 | Wethrin | Ah, fairynuff. |
11:43.54 | JD | and mutt |
11:43.57 | JD | and w3m |
11:44.01 | JD | and irssi |
11:44.05 | JD | and slrn |
11:44.12 | JD | and bash |
11:44.16 | JD | and ls |
11:44.26 | JD | shall I continue? |
11:44.35 | Wethrin | Yes |
11:44.36 | Wethrin | :) |
11:45.40 | jason_ukfsn | axelS: that should be easy enough. You just write a little script to take your csv (I assume that's what you meant) and turn it into LDIF using a simple template. Then load it into the ldap database |
11:45.50 | Wethrin | Colour. LUXURY! |
11:46.01 | Wethrin | I was quite happy with green being the only colour |
11:46.43 | axelS | jason_ukfsn: yep, csv not cvs d'oh! |
11:47.27 | axelS | jason_ukfsn: the ldif isn't the problem. the problem is i haven't got the faintest idea how to get the server set up |
11:48.12 | jason_ukfsn | axelS: you have two choices. Either read up on it or pay someone else to do the job. |
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11:49.04 | axelS | hi Leeds |
11:49.39 | axelS | jason_ukfsn: yep. reading/learning will probably take me considered time. how much would it cost for someone to assist me? |
11:51.11 | Leeds | hey axelS |
11:52.02 | jason_ukfsn | axelS: several people in GLLUG can do this and each will probably charge a different rate. msg me if you want a quote. |
11:52.14 | jason_ukfsn | hi Leeds. |
11:52.24 | Leeds | and hey jason_ukfsn :-) |
11:53.02 | gregj | Leeds: hi |
11:53.09 | Leeds | morning gregj |
12:04.46 | Wethrin | What ho |
12:05.11 | Leeds | don't call her a ho! |
12:05.42 | Leeds | or... hey Wethrin... |
12:06.03 | Wethrin | :) |
12:08.26 | Xiaoqi | morning all |
12:09.25 | JD | afternnon |
12:09.47 | Leeds | my collegue has some video someone took of her, but he had the camera on its side... mplayer -vop rotate=1 did the job :-) |
12:10.58 | murble | Leeds: can it do that without decode encode? |
12:11.30 | Leeds | it can display it fine like that, but to actually modify the file it needs to decode/encode AFAIK |
12:12.22 | Xiaoqi | JD: how goes it? |
12:12.49 | murble | just wondeirng because jpegtran can do the same for jpegs without that. |
12:15.58 | JD | Xiaoqi: bash.orging |
12:29.51 | Xiaoqi | ah |
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13:01.21 | zachary | afternoon formi |
13:01.30 | formi | that late! |
13:01.34 | formi | hi |
13:01.54 | zachary | ok, in formi time: good morning! |
13:02.18 | formi | getting out of bed just to find out how late it is, it's a bit counterproductive |
13:04.15 | formi | zachary: do you use a jabber client? |
13:04.29 | zachary | no, just xchat |
13:05.29 | formi | i've been thinking about setting up a server for ages |
13:07.03 | formi | i have built jabberd with ssl support |
13:07.41 | formi | now I need to find a windows and a nix client that support ssl |
13:08.35 | gregj | hmm |
13:08.59 | gregj | one of the guys in office told me today that he heard from m$ reseler that m$ bought Linux recently, and will end it |
13:09.00 | formi | no kde clients |
13:09.11 | gregj | and i just dunno what to say :-) |
13:09.28 | gregj | why no kde clients ? |
13:09.36 | gregj | you are affraid of something ? :> |
13:09.48 | formi | gregj: read |
13:10.20 | gregj | and ? |
13:10.33 | gregj | psi is pure qt |
13:10.37 | gregj | no kde |
13:10.42 | gregj | kopete uses libpsi |
13:10.47 | gregj | but has more protocols |
13:10.53 | gregj | and many bugs in libpsi are corrected |
13:11.00 | Leeds | formi: gaim should do jabber/ssl, I think |
13:11.01 | gregj | but it is up to you... |
13:11.31 | formi | Leeds: i had a look at their website, only gpg is mentioned |
13:11.40 | gregj | hehe |
13:11.41 | formi | Leeds: AFAIK |
13:11.55 | gregj | use something that works, and is up2date |
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13:12.52 | Leeds | formi: it has an option to use SSL |
13:13.28 | JD | gregj: go tell your cow-orker to go think about what MS might actually be able to buy |
13:13.36 | JD | highbury: ouch |
13:13.52 | formi | Leeds: I looked at the makefile and saw no ssl option, so I assumed there was no support |
13:14.01 | murble | highbury: is it just simply that the parition is smaller than the reported size of the filesystem? |
13:14.03 | Leeds | formi: which makefile? |
13:14.06 | formi | Leeds: compiling right now |
13:14.11 | formi | Leeds: gabber |
13:14.15 | gregj | JD: i don't know if it is right, that some m$ technician is spreading such news |
13:14.22 | murble | imcom |
13:14.26 | Leeds | formi: I never said anything about gabber |
13:14.28 | gregj | JD: we are not telling everyone that windows is bad and will end up soon |
13:14.33 | Leeds | murble: yeah, incom is a good client |
13:14.36 | gregj | we simply don't care about it |
13:15.05 | highbury | somehow the beginning of the partition got moved, so I found old record with the correct details, confirmed by gpart, now I think I have problems with the size of the partition "The filesystem size (according to the superblock) is 23041218 blocks |
13:15.05 | highbury | The physical size of the device is 23007080 blocks |
13:15.05 | highbury | Either the superblock or the partition table is likely to be corrupt!" |
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13:15.52 | formi | Leeds: what were you talking about then? |
13:15.57 | Leeds | gaim |
13:16.10 | formi | all righ |
13:16.16 | Leeds | <Leeds> formi: gaim should do jabber/ssl, I think |
13:16.32 | sash | Hello, got a response from my MP today, admitting that she does not know much about software patents but will spead to the relevant ministers. |
13:16.44 | sash | s/spead/speak/ |
13:22.47 | gregj | but it hurts... |
13:22.53 | gregj | this thing is primitive |
13:23.32 | gregj | apt-get --purge remove libao2 libgtkspell0 libstartup-notification0 gaim |
13:24.02 | gregj | yack |
13:27.13 | formi | gregj: your legs are a primitive way of motion, cut them! |
13:27.26 | gregj | ? |
13:27.36 | murble | formi: working isn't very primative at all. |
13:27.43 | murble | s/working/walking/ |
13:27.48 | gregj | i am talking about apples and you about oranges |
13:27.49 | zachary | sash: ltns. |
13:28.16 | formi | primative, I don't think so, primates don't work |
13:28.50 | formi | gregj: primitive, or whatever you want, if it works it's fine by me |
13:29.25 | gregj | sure |
13:29.40 | gregj | use windows, it works... |
13:30.04 | gregj | <eot>, i have flame wars |
13:30.13 | gregj | s/have/hate/ |
13:30.17 | formi | gregj: go to the doctor |
13:32.50 | sash | Oi Formi, I hope that pic you want on the GLLUG index page is not of you know who! |
13:33.46 | sash | zachary: Don't you encourage him either. |
13:34.52 | formi | sash: have you been smoking something? Who said I wanted anything on the Gllug index page |
13:35.26 | zachary | sash: Relax, he wouldn't give it to me. |
13:36.52 | sash | formi: Something that Jenson said yesterday. |
13:38.25 | formi | sash: if you believe what Jenson says that is your problem |
13:40.25 | sash | formi: OK. |
13:56.10 | *** part/#gllug sash (voidzero@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG) |
14:04.47 | gregj | ech |
14:04.56 | gregj | i am trying to find some simplee sound of fart on net |
14:05.10 | gregj | i never imagine that there is so much junk on websites... |
14:05.12 | Leeds | um... |
14:05.18 | gregj | fart |
14:05.30 | Leeds | yes... |
14:05.31 | gregj | gas leak :-) |
14:05.35 | Leeds | actually! |
14:05.45 | gregj | annyone have any ? |
14:06.08 | Leeds | I have a Matrix spoof video with a lot of farts added on the top - you could maybe grab from there... otherwise, I suggest South Park |
14:06.15 | Wethrin | Heh |
14:06.18 | gregj | hehe |
14:06.25 | Wethrin | gregj: Is this for Kopete? :) |
14:06.29 | gregj | :-) |
14:06.30 | Wethrin | We had workpizza |
14:06.52 | gregj | i don'thave any south partks |
14:07.00 | gregj | but maybe futurama.. |
14:07.01 | gregj | hmm |
14:07.07 | Leeds | Wethrin: Utah workpizza? :-) |
14:07.19 | Wethrin | PizzaHut |
14:07.22 | gregj | novell pizza |
14:07.33 | Wethrin | Yes. It's all red |
14:07.38 | gregj | ;] |
14:07.48 | Leeds | and used to be very popular but isn't so much any more? |
14:07.54 | gregj | with big N that stands for ppolish Niedobre |
14:07.56 | Leeds | PizzaWare :-P |
14:08.20 | gregj | or Niedziala (in case of software products) |
14:08.20 | gregj | ;] |
14:09.05 | gregj | ;<p |
14:09.19 | gregj | i don't know how to tranlate Niedobre, Wethrin ? |
14:09.25 | gregj | Nie dziala - means not working |
14:09.44 | gregj | niedobre is somethingg around not good |
14:09.49 | gregj | but in case of food |
14:10.47 | gregj | ble |
14:10.54 | gregj | anyway, any farts - send them to me please :] |
14:11.08 | gregj | in electronic form ;> |
14:12.27 | gregj | 14:11 Leeds [~rc112576@beryllium.eu.sun.com] requested unknown CTCP FART from gregj: |
14:12.31 | gregj | ;] |
14:13.05 | Wethrin | gregj: Bad |
14:13.12 | Wethrin | (lit. not good) |
14:13.28 | gregj | maybe that is better word |
14:13.37 | gregj | but in case of food , what will you say |
14:13.41 | gregj | food was not goood |
14:13.42 | gregj | or |
14:13.45 | gregj | food was bad ? |
14:14.04 | gregj | or "tell me next time to not order this rubbis@ |
14:14.14 | Wethrin | Any, depends how bad it was :) |
14:14.21 | gregj | ;] |
14:14.33 | gregj | in case of pizza hut i will sugest last one |
14:14.42 | gregj | i do prefere dominos my self |
14:14.56 | gregj | their webpage also stands on windows, so no difference in this diamention |
14:14.58 | Wethrin | There's a PH right opposite us. |
14:15.09 | Wethrin | But the takeaway place is 5 mins walk away |
14:15.12 | Wethrin | No Dominos |
14:15.14 | gregj | there is almost everything on Kings R.d |
14:15.20 | gregj | inclluding bunch of poles |
14:15.23 | Wethrin | (that I've seen) |
14:15.30 | Wethrin | Yeah - there's a Polish Deli/restaurant |
14:16.46 | gregj | i'll boot windows 95.. |
14:17.27 | murble | Wethrin: are you in london today? |
14:17.47 | murble | tis london pm this evening. |
14:18.08 | Wethrin | 'tis also Compsoc in Oxford |
14:18.43 | Wethrin | (which I am going to) |
14:20.16 | Wethrin | Heh |
14:20.35 | gregj | no comment |
14:21.27 | gregj | i'll have to use "compact" option in lillo |
14:21.32 | Wethrin | "It works better if you plug it in" |
14:21.34 | gregj | otherwise kernel loads up ages |
14:21.40 | Wethrin | :) |
14:43.56 | JD | Wethrin: how come when I correct someone's broken english I get moaned at |
14:45.10 | Wethrin | Hmm? I wasn't correcting English |
14:45.24 | Wethrin | I was merely quoting |
14:45.58 | gregj | i had different impression |
14:46.25 | Wethrin | Ah. well :) |
14:46.36 | gregj | but that's ok |
14:46.47 | gregj | unless someone's rude, i even appriciate it |
14:47.14 | Wethrin | But it can be fun to be rude :) |
14:47.40 | gregj | hmm |
14:47.46 | gregj | typical english |
14:47.55 | gregj | but you don't have even drop of english blood |
14:47.59 | gregj | that's weird :] |
14:48.03 | Wethrin | Heh |
14:48.19 | gregj | i could expect Ritchard to say something like this, but you :] |
14:48.29 | Wethrin | >:-> |
14:48.46 | gregj | he's british, so i have to keep eye blind on it |
14:49.57 | gregj | or blind my eye on it |
14:50.02 | gregj | :/ |
14:50.03 | Wethrin | Turn a blind eye to it |
14:50.12 | gregj | thanks |
14:50.39 | Wethrin | np :) |
14:50.40 | Leeds | that's not how you spell my name... |
14:50.51 | gregj | Richard |
14:50.52 | gregj | i know |
14:50.53 | gregj | sorry |
14:50.56 | murble | Leeds: you mean it isn't how you spell it? |
14:51.08 | Leeds | that is not the correct way to spell my name |
14:51.30 | gregj | |14:51 -!- Leeds [~rc112576@beryllium.eu.sun.com] |
14:51.30 | gregj | |14:51 -!- %%# ircname : Richard |
14:53.16 | gregj | i don't know why i am putting T there |
14:54.28 | Leeds | because it's pronounced as though there were a T? |
14:54.39 | gregj | sort of |
14:54.51 | Wethrin | Mr. C |
14:54.56 | gregj | ;] |
14:56.51 | gregj | i am recompiling 2.6 on p133 |
14:57.10 | Leeds | bah |
15:02.17 | murble | Leeds: yeah, it tends to help if the working set of your compiler fit in ram.. |
15:02.29 | murble | building stuff isn't much fun otherwise. |
15:03.09 | Leeds | which reminds me... I have this idea which I need to get around to testing - does it actually make much difference if you compile from and to a RAMdisk as opposed to disk (given modern caching/buffering and so on) |
15:04.22 | murble | Leeds: if everything is in the page cache it shouldn't make much difference. |
15:04.55 | murble | wait a second, i'll try it on tmpfs |
15:08.23 | murble | writes should be cheaper. |
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15:23.06 | murble | Leeds: in my entirly unscientific test, on tmpfs 2.4.22 took 2m57 seconds to build and on ext3 raid5 disk on same machine 3m15 seconds |
15:23.55 | murble | the difference may just be noise though, and i probably don't have enough ram to do it properly. |
15:24.15 | murble | as i suspect there was quite a lot of paging going on in the tmpfs test. |
15:26.47 | murble | another build on the fs came out at 2m42 |
15:31.39 | gregj | what was the easiest way to add user in mysql? |
15:32.09 | murble | mysqladmin probably. |
15:32.13 | Wethrin | insert into users values (.....) :) |
15:32.34 | murble | Wethrin: you can rember what all the Y,N thing should be? |
15:32.49 | Wethrin | mysqladmin doesn't create users |
15:32.50 | gregj | murble: well, it does not do this :/ |
15:33.03 | gregj | Wethrin: i was trying to ommit this path |
15:33.15 | Wethrin | insert user,password into users ('foo',password('bar')); |
15:33.20 | Wethrin | Then use the GRANT command |
15:33.38 | jason_ukfsn | gregj: grant is by far the easier way to add a user to mysql |
15:33.42 | Leeds | murble: thanks for that :-) |
15:33.54 | Wethrin | Does GRANT add users too? |
15:33.57 | gregj | no |
15:34.01 | Wethrin | I thought it only granted permissions to existing users |
15:34.03 | gregj | you have to add user to table first |
15:34.10 | jason_ukfsn | yes grant will add the user if they don't exist |
15:34.16 | jason_ukfsn | no you don't gregj |
15:34.16 | gregj | really ? |
15:34.22 | jason_ukfsn | I use it all the time ;) |
15:34.36 | gregj | jason_ukfsn: what is syntax to add someone with access from localhost with name aa |
15:35.09 | jason_ukfsn | grant select,update,... to aa@localhost identified by 'password'; |
15:35.18 | gregj | thx |
15:35.27 | jason_ukfsn | obviously you set the relevant privs and password |
15:35.28 | Wethrin | murble: When are where is London.pm meet? |
15:36.09 | murble | http://london.pm.org/pipermail/london.pm-announce/2003-October/ |
15:36.10 | murble | <PROTECTED> |
15:36.56 | gregj | and flush privs of course at the end |
15:37.50 | jason_ukfsn | grant doesn't require a privs flush :) |
15:38.11 | Wethrin | murble: Hmm....it's beer, so I might come along. |
15:38.22 | Wethrin | Apart from you, is there anyone I'd know there? |
15:38.36 | gregj | jason_ukfsn: forgot about password ;] |
15:38.54 | gregj | this is mysql 3.x |
15:38.58 | gregj | so i don't know, maybe it does |
15:39.01 | jason_ukfsn | that's what I am using. |
15:39.09 | murble | Wethrin: do you know kake? |
15:39.19 | Wethrin | Sort-of |
15:41.29 | Leeds | mmm... cake :-) |
15:46.18 | gregj | fsck |
15:46.34 | gregj | GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON rounduptest TO rounduptest@localhost IDENTIFIED BY 'rounduptest'; |
15:46.46 | gregj | use mysql |
15:46.47 | gregj | update user set password=password('123') where user='rounduptest'; |
15:46.52 | gregj | flush priv; |
15:46.59 | gregj | (because i've changed password) |
15:47.11 | gregj | |mysql> use rounduptest |
15:47.11 | gregj | |ERROR 1044: Access denied for user: 'rounduptest@localhost' to database 'rounduptest' |
15:47.17 | gregj | as this user, i cannot use this db |
15:47.44 | gregj | bit odd |
15:48.51 | gregj | :| |
15:51.25 | gregj | |mysql> use rounduptest |
15:51.26 | gregj | |ERROR 1044: Access denied for user: 'rounduptest@localhost' to database 'rounduptest' |
15:51.29 | gregj | |mysql> use mysql |
15:51.31 | gregj | |Database changed |
15:51.35 | gregj | that is even better..... |
15:51.38 | gregj | hehe |
15:54.05 | jason_ukfsn | I think that should have been GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON rounduptest.* TO rounduptest@localhost... |
15:54.20 | gregj | yes |
15:54.23 | gregj | i got it now;] |
15:55.00 | gregj | works now |
15:55.01 | gregj | ech |
15:55.13 | gregj | i have to add new user once a year... |
15:56.58 | gregj | thanks |
16:03.26 | gregj | i recieved my tickets today |
16:03.35 | gregj | this means that royal mail is working |
16:04.27 | gregj | or "that mean" |
16:04.29 | gregj | ech |
16:06.54 | Wethrin | That means. |
16:06.57 | Wethrin | Or this means. |
16:07.01 | Wethrin | Either will do :) |
16:07.23 | Wethrin | Hmm.....first reviews of newest Matrix are.......it sucks. |
16:07.28 | Wethrin | More than Matrix2. |
16:07.44 | gregj | it is something obvious |
16:08.15 | gregj | this was fully commerciall decision to make such crap |
16:09.38 | gregj | besides, this is continuation of reload, so this quality must go on |
16:09.54 | Wethrin | s/on/down/ :) |
16:10.06 | gregj | ;] |
16:10.20 | gregj | well, being on the same level, means that i don't want to see it |
16:11.00 | gregj | i still do regret 10 quid i've spend on ticket |
16:11.05 | Wethrin | £10! |
16:11.13 | Wethrin | Go to a cheaper cinema. |
16:11.19 | Wethrin | Heh. Nice /. comment: |
16:11.24 | Wethrin | <PROTECTED> |
16:11.27 | Wethrin | The only question Reloaded raised to me was "why the hell did I spend $7 on this crap." Once I see Revolutions, the answers sure to be clear. "Because it's a Matrix movie, you damn fool!" |
16:11.43 | gregj | hehe |
16:12.07 | gregj | my goodness, how much i hate python |
16:12.24 | gregj | i have to correct few errors in program written in python |
16:12.33 | gregj | painfull expierence |
16:13.50 | zachary | Plz take a look at http://www.gllug.ukfsn.org/images/header-2.jpg. This is a concept piece. Not the overall quality, but color coordination and ideas. I would like to get a more recent gllug photo and add a few other background graphics. |
16:13.52 | Wethrin | :) |
16:14.36 | Wethrin | It might be better to have the photo of people go along the whole banner |
16:14.44 | Wethrin | Or possibly fade it out to green |
16:15.35 | Wethrin | The text itself could be a little bit bigger - there's a lot of greenspace around it (even if it were replaced with a photo) |
16:16.01 | zachary | I was thinking of a pic of computer hardware. And something that symbolizes london or uk(maybe flag). |
16:16.11 | gregj | yes, i have the same suggestion as Dan |
16:16.25 | Wethrin | Oh, and the clock should show 5pm, because that's pubtime! :) |
16:16.30 | gregj | Uk, usa, sweden, poland and few others ;] |
16:17.13 | Leeds | gregj: python rox |
16:17.21 | gregj | yeah, sure |
16:17.26 | gregj | language looks nice |
16:17.37 | gregj | but i got error, and it takes ages to get to it |
16:17.52 | gregj | |ERROR: testCreation (test.test_init.mysqlClassicTestCase) |
16:17.52 | gregj | |---------------------------------------------------------------------- |
16:17.52 | gregj | |Traceback (most recent call last): |
16:17.52 | gregj | | File "./test/test_init.py", line 48, in testCreation |
16:17.52 | gregj | | init.initialise(self.dirname, 'sekrit') |
16:18.09 | Wethrin | Go to line 48? |
16:18.20 | gregj | i ggot few screens like that |
16:18.21 | gregj | :] |
16:18.33 | zachary | thanks |
16:18.42 | Leeds | well, that's a custom exception... so you need to find out how it's generated - it must be being explicitly thrown somewhere |
16:20.03 | gregj | an answer is at the end ! |
16:20.04 | gregj | AttributeError: '_roundup_tracker_3.config' module has no attribute 'MYSQL_DATABASE' |
16:20.14 | gregj | upside down |
16:20.14 | gregj | grrrr |
16:21.06 | gregj | so far i am just discovering this language, so i'll treat this as next lesson |
16:21.31 | Leeds | oh, okay... |
16:22.26 | gregj | like i said, it looks nice |
16:22.57 | gregj | but i am not so happy because it got simmilar bacground to java |
16:23.12 | gregj | and is also that slow and eats resources like crazy |
16:23.36 | Leeds | you're not using jython, are you? |
16:23.53 | gregj | nope |
16:23.55 | gregj | python |
16:24.00 | Leeds | :-) |
16:24.01 | gregj | language is different |
16:24.14 | Leeds | it's not particularly a high-performance language - that's not what it's designed for |
16:24.25 | gregj | but you have VM, byte code |
16:24.33 | gregj | yeah, and java isn't as well |
16:24.38 | gregj | but it is used as |
16:25.14 | Leeds | it's just a normal scripting language in that sense... perl and tcl use bytecode too |
16:25.49 | Leeds | you do know that under the right circumstances, it'll automatically save a compiled version of the script and run that in future if the script hasn't changed? |
16:25.58 | gregj | "java is an enterprise web solution," blebleble |
16:26.14 | gregj | yes |
16:26.21 | gregj | but this only speeds up start |
16:26.25 | gregj | not execution |
16:27.37 | Leeds | true |
16:28.25 | Leeds | the standard advice is that if you find your code is too slow, profile it, find the (probably) small amount which causes the slowness, and re-write just that bit in C |
16:28.58 | gregj | it is fast enough to run web server with few thousdant requests a day |
16:29.08 | Leeds | oh, sure |
16:29.47 | gregj | but everytime someone fire search on webpage, i can see python running on top of top for second, eating memory like crazy |
16:29.51 | gregj | :] |
16:30.19 | gregj | can i wrote modules for python in C, just like for perl ? |
16:30.23 | Leeds | there is mod_python |
16:30.24 | Leeds | sure you can |
16:30.30 | gregj | because i am using this trick in perl |
16:30.48 | gregj | and in C as well, but assembler is the goodie-speedy-gonzales |
16:30.57 | gregj | we are using zope |
16:31.01 | Leeds | http://www.python.org/doc/current/ext/ext.html |
16:31.03 | Leeds | ARGH ZOPE |
16:31.08 | gregj | yess |
16:31.15 | Leeds | assembler bad |
16:31.21 | gregj | assembler good |
16:31.25 | Wethrin | Assembler g0000d |
16:31.30 | Leeds | assembler bad |
16:31.33 | gregj | yummy |
16:31.44 | Leeds | I work - regularly - on 4 different architectures |
16:31.47 | Wethrin | MOV foo,bar |
16:31.48 | Leeds | assembler bad |
16:32.09 | Wethrin | Good |
16:32.23 | Leeds | bytecode good :-) |
16:32.29 | Leeds | C good :-) |
16:32.35 | Wethrin | C++ bad |
16:32.38 | Leeds | true |
16:32.49 | gregj | MOV [assembler_lovers_table]+CX, Leeds |
16:32.53 | Leeds | hell, I have 3 architechtures under my desk right now :-) |
16:33.29 | Wethrin | Freemasons! |
16:33.31 | gregj | ;] |
16:33.42 | Leeds | no, not architects... |
16:33.48 | gregj | there is street called freemasons street near my place |
16:34.07 | murble | gregj: and there are quite a lot of pubs with that in their names. |
16:34.09 | Leeds | gregj: but you can't tell anyone exactly where it is :-) |
16:34.18 | Wethrin | Or how fast it's moving? |
16:34.31 | gregj | Leeds: why? |
16:34.38 | Leeds | hey, look... the big 5 are becoming the big 3! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3247823.stm |
16:34.59 | Leeds | gregj: not unless they show their left nipple, roll down their right sock and slap you gently on the nose |
16:35.13 | Wethrin | "How to spot a Freemason" |
16:35.25 | Leeds | a) judge |
16:35.28 | Leeds | b) policeman |
16:35.41 | Leeds | c) banker |
16:35.45 | Leeds | d) politician |
16:37.24 | gregj | anyway, Dan will describe it to me in details in pub, if he doesn't mind |
16:37.35 | nasrat | <PROTECTED> |
16:38.01 | gregj | thanks :-) |
16:38.12 | gregj | i got some on me laptop |
16:38.15 | Wethrin | :) |
16:39.50 | murble | have you been to Hungary? |
16:39.56 | Leeds | My nipples explode with delight! |
16:41.22 | Wethrin | :) |
16:41.48 | Leeds | I will not buy this tobacconists, it is scratched |
16:46.35 | JD | Leeds: hmmmmm |
16:47.23 | Xiaoqi | Leeds: lol |
17:14.13 | gregj | Leeds: i got error on something like that: |
17:14.14 | gregj | <PROTECTED> |
17:14.18 | gregj | and it says |
17:14.28 | gregj | | db = getattr(self.config, 'MYSQL_DATABASE') |
17:14.28 | gregj | |AttributeError: '_roundup_tracker_3.config' module has no attribute 'MYSQL_DATABASE' |
17:14.39 | Leeds | okay... seems pretty self-evident to me |
17:14.42 | gregj | so i guess MYSQL_DATABASE is not defined |
17:14.52 | gregj | but where should i add this |
17:15.04 | gregj | what is that getattr(self.config ...) ? |
17:15.15 | Leeds | are you writing this code yourself, or debugging it? |
17:15.21 | gregj | debugging it |
17:16.00 | gregj | i am not too much into python :-) |
17:16.16 | Leeds | I only ask because that's a reasonably basic error |
17:16.42 | gregj | i see |
17:17.09 | gregj | is the answer to my problem is also very simple ? |
17:17.49 | Leeds | an answer is simple... the right answer may not be |
17:18.26 | Leeds | getattr(self.config, 'MYSQL_DATABASE') is the same as doing self.config.MYSQL_DATABASE - but that attribute doesn't exist |
17:19.03 | Leeds | the right answer is probably to make it exist... the easy answer is to add the optional third argument to getattr which provides a default value in the event that the named attribute doesn't exist |
17:19.23 | gregj | ok, so self i guess some kind of this in c++ |
17:19.31 | gregj | config is structure or module |
17:19.40 | Leeds | self is the object whose method you're currently executing |
17:19.53 | Leeds | it's the hidden first argument to all methods |
17:20.26 | gregj | so by issuing config.MYSQL_DATABASE i should get the same resoult ? |
17:20.39 | Leeds | self.config.MYSQL_DATABASE, yes |
17:20.57 | gregj | i mean, can i ommit this self. at the beggining ? |
17:21.10 | Leeds | no |
17:21.26 | gregj | ok |
17:21.27 | Leeds | or, well... maybe, depending on the context |
17:21.35 | Leeds | but why would you? it would make no difference |
17:21.40 | gregj | yes |
17:21.56 | gregj | but you said: |
17:21.57 | gregj | |17:19 < Leeds> self is the object whose method you're currently executing |
17:21.57 | gregj | |17:19 < Leeds> it's the hidden first argument to all methods |
17:22.12 | gregj | hidden means, that i can ommit it . at least to me |
17:22.13 | gregj | anyway |
17:22.13 | Leeds | it's a context thing |
17:22.15 | Leeds | no! |
17:22.24 | gregj | i do understeand it now |
17:22.34 | Leeds | sorry, I meant it's hidden when you call the method - the method calling code puts it in |
17:22.43 | gregj | i see |
17:22.44 | gregj | ok |
17:22.47 | gregj | to the point |
17:22.54 | gregj | now we are after 'config' |
17:22.59 | Leeds | so you call foo.bar(spam, eggs) but the actual call gets delivered as foo.bar(self,spam,eggs) |
17:23.09 | Leeds | or better - foo.bar(foo,spam,eggs) |
17:23.16 | gregj | so just like this in c++ |
17:23.22 | gregj | or even , the same |
17:24.13 | gregj | i am greping this file for 'config' |
17:24.24 | gregj | but i got nothing that looks like declaration |
17:24.25 | Leeds | dude |
17:24.29 | Leeds | use a sane editor! |
17:24.31 | gregj | yes, that's me |
17:25.13 | Leeds | no, I mean vim or emacs or something... no need to grep :-) |
17:25.39 | Wethrin | What's wrong with ed? :) |
17:25.50 | gregj | kate :] |
17:26.26 | Leeds | is kate a proper programmer's editor? |
17:26.57 | gregj | yes |
17:27.00 | gregj | for Kde |
17:27.14 | gregj | small ide |
17:27.17 | Wethrin | So not for Proper Programmers ;-) |
17:27.47 | Wethrin | Real Programmers hand-assemble their code |
17:28.11 | gregj | Wethrin: you have to like assembler first ... |
17:28.15 | gregj | Leeds: from roundup.backends.rdbms_common import * |
17:28.36 | gregj | Leeds: this will look in ./roundup/backends/rdbms_common.py |
17:28.40 | Wethrin | No, just machine code |
17:28.44 | gregj | Leeds: and what import * means ? |
17:34.12 | gregj | i guess it pickups all objects from this file |
17:34.12 | gregj | only guess |
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17:34.13 | Wethrin | Hi highbury |
17:34.14 | highbury | Hi folks |
17:34.14 | jason_ukfsn | time to go. Have fun everyone |
17:34.14 | Wethrin | :) |
17:37.09 | gregj | fscking python |
17:38.07 | Wethrin | PUB! |
17:38.32 | gregj | i need to cook something before |
17:38.39 | gregj | i got no money for food |
17:38.43 | gregj | :/ |
17:40.02 | Wethrin | PUB! |
17:40.05 | Wethrin | Has pies |
17:40.23 | gregj | HA |
17:40.27 | gregj | FIXED !! |
17:40.29 | gregj | i am the greatest |
17:40.30 | Wethrin | :) |
17:40.34 | Wethrin | Good. Now come to pub! |
17:40.41 | gregj | i've never did anything in this language before |
17:40.45 | gregj | Leeds: thx |
17:40.50 | gregj | oops |
17:41.06 | gregj | this error is fixed, but i got 10 others somewhere else now |
17:42.18 | gregj | OperationalError: (1050, "Table '_session' already exists") |
17:42.26 | gregj | i think i can forget about that |
17:42.31 | gregj | this is warning |
17:44.28 | Wethrin | HEh |
17:44.43 | gregj | ha |
17:44.52 | gregj | i gave him not sufficient privgs |
17:44.56 | Wethrin | :) |
17:45.01 | gregj | and he wasn't able to drop it in first place |
17:45.15 | Wethrin | Hmm...time for another slice of cold pizza, I think. |
17:45.19 | gregj | mysql logs are good |
17:45.27 | Wethrin | That'll save eating expensive pubfood |
17:46.38 | gregj | nah |
17:46.42 | gregj | still few errors |
17:47.32 | Wethrin | hm |
17:48.41 | gregj | fsck it |
17:49.03 | Wethrin | hmm? |
17:49.23 | gregj | this software |
17:49.36 | Wethrin | Ah. |
17:49.39 | Wethrin | Food. Pub. :) |
17:49.45 | Wethrin | You know it makes sense. |
17:49.49 | gregj | this was just test procedure |
17:49.53 | Wethrin | heh |
17:50.04 | gregj | it is pointless to resolve problems in testing software |
17:50.17 | gregj | if i will have problems in package it self, than i'll go back to this |
17:51.28 | Leeds | gregj: :from roundup.backends.rdbms_common import *" means import all classes, etc. from the module roundup.backends.rdbms_common |
17:51.53 | Leeds | pull them all into the global namespace |
17:52.44 | Leeds | as opposed to "import roundup.backends.rdbms_common" which means import them all, but keep them in their own namespace, so you need to reference them as roundup.backends.rdbms_common.foo |
17:52.47 | gregj | well, it was selfdescriptive |
17:52.54 | gregj | but i wasn't sure |
17:53.31 | gregj | i see |
17:53.36 | Leeds | python often is self-descriptive, that's sort of the point of the language :-) |
17:53.53 | gregj | yes |
17:53.58 | gregj | i told you, it is quite nice |
17:54.23 | gregj | i definetly spend some time writing stuff in it |
17:54.30 | Leeds | my main thing about that is that I find it *fun* and *easy* to code in - the code flows smoothly... |
17:55.05 | gregj | so does visual basic :-) |
17:55.19 | gregj | just kidding |
17:57.22 | gregj | i guess it is much more clear because you don't have to use brackets '{}' |
17:58.04 | gregj | at least not that often as in C/C++/java/objective C/perl/PHP.... |
17:58.04 | Leeds | it helps |
17:58.09 | Leeds | plus, everyone' |
17:58.19 | Leeds | everyone's code is indented similarly :-) |
17:58.29 | gregj | sure |
17:59.33 | gregj | food comsumed |
17:59.46 | Wethrin | Are you still here!? :) |
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21:31.49 | zachary | ping |
21:41.43 | highbury | pong |
21:42.59 | highbury | just playing with my usb2 cd-rewriter from Linux, lets see if I can boot from the cd-rw I just burnt (in a few minutes) |
21:47.01 | zachary | trying to find a ~100W external psu for 1GHz mini-itx. |
22:03.54 | Jenson | hiya zachary and highbury |
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