| 00:00.01 | Leeds | *next* year, IBM will have a native Linux client for that!!! |
| 00:00.06 | axelS | well, kde is also nice |
| 00:00.10 | Leeds | except it's been next year for at least 3 years now |
| 00:00.13 | axelS | glup |
| 00:00.35 | axelS | well, as long as they have a linux server i'm happy. they also have a mac client (never tried that though) |
| 00:00.39 | Leeds | hmm... midnight |
| 00:00.45 | axelS | huh |
| 00:00.56 | axelS | shit - i better hit the deck, early start tomorrow |
| 00:01.35 | Leeds | night |
| 00:01.39 | axelS-zZz | thanks again Leeds and highbury - gn8 and enjoy 2T |
| 00:03.02 | Jenson | hiya |
| 00:03.14 | Leeds | morning |
| 00:03.21 | Jenson | morning |
| 00:03.45 | Jenson | what would that be? |
| 00:04.30 | Leeds | I was talking to my mum on the phone when the TiVo came out of pause, loudly, so I hit pause again and it's stopped with an image of a woman (torso only) apparently grabbing her boobs... |
| 00:05.06 | Jenson | lol |
| 00:05.12 | Jenson | screenshot screenshot |
| 00:05.36 | Leeds | the funny thing is that there's a slight problem with my window manager at the moment (running a beta, was discussing it with the author earlier) and if I let my mouse go over the pager, which is over the tv card viewer, it's jumping between two frames (interlacing, I assume) |
| 00:05.49 | Leeds | so as I move my mouse over the pager, her hands are jumping back and forth :-) |
| 00:05.58 | Jenson | lmao |
| 00:06.27 | Jenson | shouldnt you be asleep |
| 00:07.05 | Leeds | yes |
| 00:07.11 | Leeds | so should you |
| 00:07.55 | Jenson | i tried, and now im so freaked out at the thought of ghosts that ive switched half the lights on |
| 00:08.25 | Leeds | ? |
| 00:09.55 | Jenson | well, seenas my mate died within 500 metres of here im freaked spirits is about the only religious thing i believe in |
| 00:10.04 | Jenson | bloody lag, one d/l taking all my bandwidth |
| 00:11.16 | Leeds | ah, that... |
| 00:11.29 | Jenson | yeh |
| 00:11.30 | Jenson | that still |
| 00:12.28 | Leeds | sorry, I mean - ah, specifically that |
| 00:12.58 | Leeds | well, my instictive reply is to ask why you'd be scared of your mate's spirit? |
| 00:13.24 | Jenson | erm, coz he talked me into doing sexual stuff with him twice |
| 00:13.48 | Leeds | so not such a mate then |
| 00:14.21 | Jenson | yeh well |
| 00:14.22 | Jenson | my fault i guess |
| 00:14.36 | Leeds | probably not |
| 00:15.04 | Jenson | well, the first time it happened, i phoned up Dan, crying and telling him i loved him |
| 00:17.11 | Leeds | hmm... |
| 00:18.42 | Jenson | and the second time, when i was slightly drunk, he came around telling mer he loved me, i slept woth him to get him out my house and to leave me alone, and i hadnt spoken to him since and i'd been meaning to sort it out |
| 00:19.21 | Leeds | hmm... |
| 00:19.58 | Leeds | well... think of it this way... it doesn't really matter now |
| 00:20.12 | Jenson | no, i know that |
| 00:20.28 | Leeds | in the sense that it certainly doesn't matter to him, so you have control over the memory |
| 00:20.57 | Jenson | but what if it does matter to him, what if he comes to make a point of it |
| 00:21.48 | Jenson | s/could/good |
| 00:21.58 | Leeds | bah... it doesn't matter to him |
| 00:22.37 | Jenson | and how do you know that? |
| 00:23.28 | Leeds | because while I do believe in souls, I don't believe they come back to hassle us |
| 00:24.25 | Jenson | i believe that the spirit has freedom to choose, i do not believe in heaven or hell, simply that a spirit will do as it wishes |
| 00:25.01 | Leeds | well, we disagree on that |
| 00:26.02 | Jenson | which makes sense, as we are different ppl |
| 00:26.10 | Leeds | that is true... |
| 00:26.15 | Leeds | in so many ways :-) |
| 00:27.00 | Leeds | anyway. it is bedtime |
| 00:27.12 | Leeds | sleep well |
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| 09:11.10 | axelS | good morning all |
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| 10:04.02 | irvined | Morning all |
| 10:19.18 | zachary | moin |
| 10:20.37 | zachary | Could someone please check http://zjstruhs.homelinux.com ? |
| 10:40.25 | highbury | it works |
| 10:41.40 | zachary | thanks |
| 10:43.27 | Xiaoqi | morning |
| 10:43.58 | Tarragon | Works for me as well |
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| 12:10.36 | Leeds | # The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one, he said / The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one - but still, they come! # |
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| 13:10.21 | JD | hi all |
| 13:10.32 | Clyphox | Heya |
| 13:12.24 | Clyphox | howzit? |
| 13:13.48 | Xiaoqi | hi JD |
| 13:14.57 | JD | not too bad |
| 13:15.04 | JD | lunch time and no food yet |
| 13:15.04 | JD | hmmm |
| 13:15.06 | JD | and no mail |
| 13:15.46 | Leeds | and lunch... |
| 13:16.09 | Clyphox | lol |
| 13:30.44 | JD | Leeds: duals? |
| 13:31.07 | Leeds | well... I've got a dual under my desk, a single at home, and access to about 50 more :-) |
| 13:32.03 | JD | can you get some duals? |
| 13:32.23 | JD | s/get/get me / |
| 13:32.28 | Leeds | sure... |
| 13:32.52 | JD | price? |
| 13:32.57 | Leeds | retail :-P |
| 13:33.11 | JD | so price? |
| 13:33.46 | Leeds | dunno, off the top of my head |
| 13:34.00 | Leeds | hang on |
| 13:36.16 | Leeds | 8400? |
| 13:37.10 | JD | sorry? |
| 13:37.31 | Leeds | pounds |
| 13:37.45 | Leeds | for a 2-way workstation, that is |
| 13:37.50 | JD | hmmm I think I'll just use ebay |
| 13:37.58 | JD | oh no I just want the processors |
| 13:38.02 | JD | mbus |
| 13:38.23 | Leeds | oh! |
| 13:38.29 | Leeds | you didn't say that |
| 13:38.49 | JD | 13:15 * JD wants his sparc 20 processor |
| 13:38.57 | Leeds | (can do a dual Xeon server for 2300) |
| 13:39.08 | Leeds | <JD> can you get some duals? |
| 13:39.18 | JD | Leeds: I just want 2x dual processor mbus modules for a sparc 20 |
| 13:39.20 | Leeds | "duals" = "dual-processor machines" to me |
| 13:39.28 | Leeds | oh, I have no idea about that obselete stuff |
| 13:39.37 | JD | Leeds: given we were talking about sparc 20s |
| 13:39.50 | JD | and I said processor |
| 13:40.33 | Leeds | well, considering when I said "I've got a dual under my desk" I didn't mean I had a couple of processors sitting stand-alone under my desk... |
| 13:40.59 | JD | you could have meant you had a 2way sparc under your desk |
| 13:41.07 | JD | sparc 20 |
| 13:41.13 | Leeds | I do have a 2way Ultra60 under my desk |
| 13:42.34 | JD | Leeds: so do you have access to any dual processor sparc 20 mbus modules? |
| 13:42.50 | Leeds | not that I'm aware of, no |
| 13:43.14 | JD | hmmm ebay it is then |
| 13:43.19 | JD | what about memory? |
| 13:43.23 | Leeds | that is prehistoric stuff, you know (from Sun's point of view) |
| 13:43.31 | JD | I know |
| 13:43.42 | JD | it is prehistoric form everyones point of view |
| 13:43.53 | JD | but they weren't giving away any of their ultas |
| 13:45.17 | JD | or was it a 20 |
| 13:56.09 | highbury | ibot seen jason_ukfsn |
| 13:56.09 | | highbury: i haven't seen 'jason_ukfsn' |
| 14:16.30 | Leeds | so they're putting up the TV tax |
| 14:17.01 | Leeds | for a black and white TV it'll cost $30.50 (yes, $, according to the BBC) |
| 14:18.47 | JD | Leeds: not £ then? |
| 14:21.55 | Leeds | apparently not |
| 14:22.01 | Leeds | hah! |
| 14:22.09 | Leeds | I can see pounds signs here... just not type them... |
| 14:25.56 | Tarragon | Not type them? Alt+3 |
| 14:26.46 | Leeds | changes tab |
| 14:27.07 | Leeds | I can type them in vim as a digraph |
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| 15:08.45 | irvined | Dammnit Blunkett is a real evil bast*rd. |
| 15:21.27 | highbury | sounds and interesting statement irvined? Care to expand .... |
| 15:22.29 | eye69 | irvined: Why? |
| 15:22.41 | irvined | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3259285.stm |
| 15:22.54 | irvined | or perhaps really naive. |
| 15:23.05 | irvined | Would you trust your data to our government? I certainly wouldnt. |
| 15:25.05 | highbury | well irvined that was a rather sweeping statement just based on one decision |
| 15:25.36 | irvined | Well he is evil. |
| 15:25.39 | irvined | Thats just one example. |
| 15:25.52 | highbury | I'd be interested in having user writable data held on the card, so I could hold my public key on it, for authentication purposes |
| 15:26.02 | irvined | he seems to be trying to do his best to turn the uk into a policed state using fear of terrorism to get his way. |
| 15:26.45 | eye69 | I have no fear of mandatory ID cards. I've had one for many years. |
| 15:28.08 | irvined | eye69, isnt that what a passport is for? |
| 15:28.59 | irvined | my point is I just don't trust our government not to use it for something more sinister. |
| 15:29.54 | eye69 | irvined: In Sweden we have either an ID card or our driver's license, which has the social security number on it. |
| 15:30.21 | highbury | unfortunately due to the Internet and identity theft we're pretty stuffed |
| 15:31.03 | eye69 | All this showing of bank statements, utility bills and stuff that is used in the UK seems very much like an ancient system to me. |
| 15:32.09 | highbury | I personally would vote for a decent secure ID card, which uniquely identified me |
| 15:32.22 | eye69 | highbury: It would make a lot of things a lot easier. |
| 15:32.50 | eye69 | Unfortunately most brits are afraid of change, or would at least appear to be. |
| 15:34.18 | gregj | someone knows where I can check BA flight dep/arr hours ? |
| 15:34.27 | gregj | i cannot find anything on BA website |
| 15:34.29 | eye69 | gregj: baa.com |
| 15:34.46 | gregj | i can check it for today and tommorow,but i need to check it for more remote date |
| 15:36.08 | eye69 | From where to where? |
| 15:36.27 | gregj | Gatwick ->Cracow |
| 15:37.53 | irvined | highbury, likewise, what i dont want to do is trust my data to a closed government designed system. |
| 15:38.08 | gregj | eye69: ok. i am looking at baa.co.uk, they have better info i guess |
| 15:38.16 | irvined | which at the end fo the day will benefit me about as much as a hole in the head, and make some corperation very rich. |
| 15:38.17 | eye69 | http://www.baa.com/main/airports/gatwick/gatwick_flight_time_table_frame.html |
| 15:39.09 | gregj | i got te same ;] |
| 15:39.16 | eye69 | irvined: Take out all your money from the bank an put it in a mattress in your cave, because that's about the only way you're going to avoid being tracked the government. |
| 15:39.22 | eye69 | +by |
| 15:39.32 | irvined | eye i've done that already :) |
| 15:39.55 | eye69 | *sigh& |
| 15:40.16 | gregj | hango on |
| 15:40.24 | gregj | but my flight is not on the list |
| 15:41.34 | gregj | ok |
| 15:41.57 | gregj | i love webpages that assume i have 1:1.333 screen |
| 15:43.15 | Leeds | irvined: he's a home secretary... it's his job to be an evil bastard |
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| 15:49.17 | armijn | re |
| 15:49.48 | Leeds | hi |
| 15:50.54 | armijn | Leeds: been playing a bit with Axim...synce works surprisingly well :) |
| 15:51.12 | Leeds | yeah, it's good for an evil hack :-) |
| 15:51.23 | armijn | is it such an evil hack then? |
| 15:52.00 | Leeds | reasonably, AIUI |
| 15:52.07 | Leeds | ibot synce |
| 15:52.08 | | i heard synce is at http://synce.sourceforge.net or a package for SYNchronising CE devices |
| 15:52.25 | armijn | aiui? |
| 15:58.53 | irvined | how does one get sendmail to purge its deferred messages? |
| 15:59.17 | Leeds | sendmail -q or some such |
| 15:59.28 | Leeds | As I Understand It |
| 16:00.25 | armijn | leeds: ah ok |
| 16:00.41 | Leeds | irvined: purge or run? |
| 16:05.40 | Leeds | oh, and I can confirm that I can see pound signs in gaim, at work, using ICQ |
| 16:14.54 | irvined | Leeds, both. |
| 16:15.04 | irvined | run and delete the ones which didnt. |
| 16:15.16 | irvined | so i sendmail -q'd and deleted the files from the queue which where left over. |
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| 18:43.25 | Clyphox | Hoi |
| 18:43.30 | Clyphox | howzit? |
| 18:51.59 | Leeds | out? |
| 19:04.07 | Clyphox | out? |
| 19:04.56 | Leeds | howzat |
| 19:05.36 | Leeds | as in cricket... |
| 19:08.01 | Leeds | bah |
| 19:08.34 | Clyphox | Ahh |
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| 19:56.30 | Jenson | f anyone is interested in the article about my mate who died in a car crash its here http://www.eadt.co.uk/homeStory.asp?Brand=EADONLINE&Category=NEWS&ItemId=IPED10+Nov+2003+22%3A16%3A43%3A957 |
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| 20:01.56 | Jenson | heya guys |
| 20:02.57 | Leeds | hey |
| 20:03.17 | Jenson | yay, someone is awake, how are you? |
| 20:03.30 | JD | hi |
| 20:03.40 | Jenson | heya JD |
| 20:03.41 | JD | .me goes to fetch the food he microwaves long ago |
| 20:05.25 | Leeds | tired |
| 20:11.30 | Jenson | lol, the mouse was living in the insulation of our microwave |
| 20:15.25 | JD | hmmm I'm sure that can't be good for it |
| 20:16.42 | Jenson | JD: neither was the mousetrap |
| 20:17.00 | JD | lol |
| 20:19.53 | JD | why are you putting colours in your html |
| 20:20.19 | Jenson | JD: because the only HTML i know, i learnt from MS Frontpage |
| 20:20.44 | JD | Jenson: get a book (or a webbrowser) |
| 20:21.01 | JD | Jenson: structure goes in your html, presentation goes in your css |
| 20:21.11 | Jenson | yeh, book might be a good idea |
| 20:21.15 | Jenson | but i never read them anyway |
| 20:21.28 | Jenson | id use MS Frontpage if i could find the disc with it on |
| 20:21.51 | JD | Jenson: a simple text editor is all you need |
| 20:22.33 | Jenson | yeh well, Mozilla Composer is cool |
| 20:28.37 | JD | go do it |
| 20:29.54 | Jenson | i havent been out of bed for 9 hours yet lol |
| 20:35.10 | Jenson | if i sleep too much i just get more and more tired |
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| 21:23.30 | Leeds_mac | foo? |
| 21:23.47 | Jenson | bar |
| 21:23.59 | murble | bar |
| 21:24.21 | Leeds_mac | thank you |
| 21:24.39 | Jenson | yw |
| 21:24.47 | Jenson | what you doing, networking your mac? |
| 21:25.34 | Leeds_mac | duh :-) |
| 21:34.30 | Leeds_mac | £ |
| 21:35.11 | Jenson | oooh a £ |
| 21:35.29 | Leeds_mac | yes, a £ |
| 21:35.59 | murble | Leeds_mac: now read scroll back about all the rude things people said under $ cover |
| 21:37.09 | Leeds_mac | different client, different machine |
| 21:48.26 | Jenson | im off to sleep |
| 21:48.29 | Jenson | night guys |
| 21:48.32 | JD | night |
| 21:48.39 | Jenson | night JD |
| 21:48.59 | Jenson | JD: you gonna be around london anytime soon |
| 21:49.11 | JD | Jenson: I may drive around the M25 tomorrow |
| 21:49.20 | Jenson | i dont think that counts lol |
| 21:49.24 | Jenson | well maybe it does |
| 21:49.35 | JD | you asked if I was going to be around london |
| 21:49.40 | JD | M25 is around london |
| 21:49.43 | Jenson | yeh |
| 21:49.46 | Jenson | i know lol |
| 21:49.47 | JD | all the way around iirc |
| 21:49.52 | Jenson | yep |
| 21:50.03 | JD | well apart fomr the bit my dartmouth tunnel/bridge |
| 21:50.05 | Jenson | you could come here and see me instead :P |
| 21:50.16 | JD | or I could not get fired |
| 21:50.25 | Jenson | true |
| 21:50.35 | Jenson | night hon |
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| 22:17.23 | cup | evening |
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| 22:45.32 | irvined | I've just had the biggest veggie curry, with samosas, bhajis and naans imaginable followed by apple crumble and a bottle of wine. |
| 22:45.36 | irvined | i feel fat. |
| 22:45.50 | Wethrin | Mmm. Curry. |
| 22:45.58 | irvined | It was Ace. |
| 22:46.09 | Wethrin | Good! |
| 22:53.51 | Wethrin | Bed! |
| 22:53.53 | Wethrin | 'night all |
| 22:55.28 | stephen | nn Wethrin |
| 22:55.39 | irvined | nn |
| 23:33.23 | Leeds | mmm... Clone Wars |