irclog2html for #gllug on 20031114

00:06.11Leedsidf=Israel Defence Forces
00:06.34LeedsI think, at most, most Israelis are a bit embarassed at Dana International
00:07.22Leedsyes, there are quite a few religious fanatics in Israel, and no, I don't think they were impressed at all... but since it's not too likely they'd have been watching Eurovision in the first place - not such a big issue
00:07.59LeedsI assume I'm talking to myself here - been off doing housework... considering going to Tescos for kitchen cleaner, scouring pads and rubber gloves
00:09.14Leedsbut I think I'm more likely to go to bed anyway
00:12.12Leedsmmm... http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/61/33984.html :-)
00:15.07Leedsah, you're all gits
00:16.35JDsorry
00:17.07Leedsnp :-)
00:17.09murbleJD: are you sorry for everyone else, or do we have to appoligise seperatly?
00:17.21murblePlease can i have a robotic monk to do this sort of thing for me?
00:17.29JDmurble: sorry you'll have to do it yourself
00:17.55murblesorry Leeds, but i was busy reading a book.
00:18.09Leedshmm... I thought you didn't read?
00:18.17Leeds<murble> Leeds/Wethrin: that woudl require me to be able to read?
00:19.04Leedsanyway, those were batched answers...
00:19.23murbleLeeds: i already answered the IDF question.
00:19.31murblewith a different but equally correct answer.
00:19.37murblealthough maybe a bit out of context.
00:20.12Leedshence less correct in context
00:21.22Leedsand - from the site you posted - it doesn't look like IDF=Irish is in common use... as opposed, say, to idf.il :-)
00:22.08Leedsalthough Michael Howard is apparently moonlighting as an assistant secretary at the Irish Dept. of Defence
00:27.14Leedsfor what it's worth, IDF is even made into an acronym in Hebrew...
03:07.10TarragonMoin
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09:03.43WethrinMorning
09:04.02nasrathi Wethrin
09:04.48WethrinHihi
09:05.17WethrinAre you pubbing tonight?
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09:05.53Wethrinwb
09:06.28nasraturgh today is not going well, mailstore shafted
09:10.11WethrinUrgh.
09:10.16WethrinCome to the pub in the evening, then :)
09:16.39WethrinGah. Useful email content: 2 lines. Useful content including salutation, etc.: 7 lines. Disclaimer: 32 lines.
09:17.21nasratemail I remember that - I may have to resort to grokking the mail spool on the secondary
09:21.46nasratit's up just v. slow :(
09:21.58Wethrin:-(
09:33.33WethrinIs it a problem with the network connection?
09:35.06nasratdon't think so it was fine and just died. I've tried tracerouting to another box at that colo and that's fine.  Also tried from 2 pops.  also the tls was working then just hanging for imap. ssh connections possible some of time.  Probably resource exhaustion (or r00ted)
09:35.31nasratannoying thing is I'm migrating to a bigger box over the next month or so
09:35.33Wethrin:-/
09:36.11nasratat least I've got a secondary so that I don't get dropped from all those high traffic mailing lists I'm on
09:36.14WethrinSo it decides to die a few weeks before it's decomissioned. Sod's Law :)
09:38.10nasratindeed
09:39.40axelSg'morning all
09:39.58WethrinHi axel
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09:45.59WethrinMorning, Mr. C.
09:46.08Leedshello...
09:59.05JDhello
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10:37.21Jenson|Awaymorning all
10:38.02Jenson|Awayright then, off again, later guys
10:39.04Leedsbye...
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10:52.01zacharymoin
10:52.05WethrinMorning
10:52.17Leedsshalom
10:59.57WethrinIt's pubday today!
11:00.39zachary:-)
11:01.26WethrinSo....who wanted VMWare copies....
11:03.43zacharyWethrin: Thanks for reminding me. BTW please remember to bring me a copy! =)
11:03.56WethrinWill do.
11:04.48JDWethrin: of course these are copies of the evaluation? (which you can download)
11:06.20WethrinJD: Full versions.
11:06.26SpudULikeWethrin: You in Hammersmith today?
11:06.33WethrinYes
11:06.52SpudULikeYou'll want to allow about 2.5 hours for the 27 bus then!
11:07.02WethrinOr Piccadilly/District line
11:07.23JDWethrin: hmmm
11:07.28SpudULikeNah, the 27 is more scenic!
11:07.32zacharyI loaded suse9.0 on my wife's laptop yesterday. This morning I'm having problems with logging in the users(using kdm). Console works fine, ssh works fine. The only thing I can find in the logs is "Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local, removing from list!" and two others like it. Any ideas?
11:07.38WethrinI almost never go on the H&C line. Unless it's standing at the station
11:08.34Wethrinzachary: I'm not sure. Give Roger a call :)
11:09.01WethrinI only ever use console logins
11:10.02SpudULikeLuckily I hardly ever use the trains.
11:11.33SpudULikeCan I use dhcp to serve up the information that would be found in /etc/hosts/ ?  Are these known as 'static hosts'?
11:11.49WethrinStatic tends to be static IP address
11:11.52murbleuse rdist for that.
11:12.57WethrinYep. Push out /etc/hosts to the client machines. Or set up a DNS server is better
11:13.35SpudULikeHow do I 'Push Out' such a file?
11:13.43Wethrinrdist, I suppose :)
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11:14.30Leedsum...
11:14.49Leedsisn't the whole point of DNS to serve out the information which would be found in /etc/hosts? :-)
11:15.29murbleLeeds: no it is to make it more managable etc.
11:15.32WethrinYes...when they found having > 100 machines in /etc/hosts (and keeping in sync between all of them) was getting a bit hard to manage
11:18.09WethrinJD: Will you pub tonight?
11:19.00JDWethrin: just but not one that you will be in
11:20.13Xiaoqihihi
11:20.48LeedsJD: splitter!
11:23.59JDLeeds: bah
11:32.08WethrinBah.
11:37.47JDLeeds: well if you want to pay for my train fare and make sure a certian town planner is in the pub, then sure, I'll come along
11:38.01Leedsah, politicking
11:43.01WethrinGoing to the dogs..
11:49.12Leedswoof
11:51.23murblecan we just shoot all people in local goverment who have anything to do with planning?
11:52.57Leedsand the lawyers?
11:56.18JDmurble: no, this one is cute
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12:18.55dankolbHmm....
12:19.06dankolbMy server has appeared to go titsup
12:19.55JDdankolb: can you reserve me a copy or two of vmware, to be picked up next Friday?
12:20.16dankolbOkay. I'll let Roger know
12:26.03murbledankolb: Oh i'm going shopping in london for computery toys, what time did you say pub for?
12:26.12Leeds6pm
12:27.21dankolbYep. 6pm, Jeremy Bentham
12:27.23murblewon't pub on friday evening be a tad busy?
12:27.31dankolbWe'll see...
12:27.56dankolbBTW, if you see a PCI ATI Mach64-based card (or similar commonly-supported card) for £10 or less, any chance you could pick one up for me?
12:28.11murbledankolb: I'm going into mac type shpos i think.
12:28.11JDdankolb: one linux and one windows if you please
12:28.30dankolbJD: Done
12:28.46dankolbAcademic or non-academic version?
12:28.53dankolb(might be an issue if you want to pay for an upgrade)
12:29.42dankolbActually, take non-academic. There's more of them
12:30.18Leedsmurble: going to buy a mac?
12:30.38murbleLeeds: possibly buying a 12" iBook.
12:30.44Leedscool
12:31.09murbleit seems to cost 13XY when you add all the bits you have to have.
12:31.15murbleor more like 1400-
12:31.15LeedsI need to go buy a laptop bag...
12:31.17Leedswhat bits?
12:31.33murbleLeeds: 60gb disk, apple care 640mb ram, wet suit
12:31.36Leedsall I got was a second power supply - and I need a bag
12:31.42murblebluetooth, wireless
12:32.07Leedsah - mine came with bt wireless, 80Gb disk, 512Mb RAM... and I'm hoping/assuming that a year's support will be enough
12:32.12highburyhi folk
12:32.31murbleLeeds: apparently it isn't...
12:32.45murbleatleast according to lots of the people at the apple thing on tuesday
12:32.47murblehi highbury
12:33.05JDdankolb: as I'm not (yet) acedemic, non is fine
12:34.10JDmurble: you have a sister?
12:34.14JDthere are more of you
12:34.16JDeeck
12:34.19murbleJD: 2 sisters.
12:34.45murblebut the other one is a student in norwich so doesn't count.
12:35.51pawelszhello.
12:35.53pawelsz:-)
12:36.03JDmurble: /me worries
12:36.21pawelszok, who broken h&c line?
12:36.24pawelsz;-)
12:36.30murblepawelsz: wot?
12:37.05pawelszi'm talking about tube.
12:37.35pawelszh&c line today doesn't work.
12:39.16Leedspawelsz: you made it to London? you're coming to the pub?
12:42.09dankolbH&C and Circle lines are on strike today
12:42.45dankolbA driver got fired for walking out of a squash court, so other drivers are striking in protest
12:42.50pawelszLeeds: i can be everyware at 7pm, before i have job and school - and stupid problems with low cost network cards. :-/
12:44.09dankolbpawelsz: 7pm should be fine :)
12:44.15dankolbBut you miss an hour of valuable drinking time
12:45.41pawelszok, we can meet at 7pm. i can't be faster today. :-/
12:47.13dankolbOkay :)
12:48.33pawelszi need some beter network cards, like 3com or maybe low-price RTLs, because i have some machine to move up, but principal bought some dell server with poor card on motherboard. all what i have on this momemnt is low-end SMC card like from Tesco.
12:48.54pawelszargh.
12:52.16dankolbRTLs are crap
12:52.58zacharyI agree with dan, had a rtl pcmcia, thing was a POS.
12:53.34pawelszhm, I don't have problems with rtl's cards.
12:54.28dankolbping murble?
12:54.32pawelszanyway, where we meet?
12:54.50dankolbJeremy Bentham, University Street.
12:55.02dankolbIt's a road that goes between Tottenham Court Road and Gower STreet
12:58.39LeedsI'll be gone by 7pm
12:58.55pawelszbut pls for relax when somebody want to understand by me. ;-) my english is good lika a cyrix procesors.
12:59.38pawelszs/by/(nothing)/
12:59.52dankolb:)
13:00.07dankolbSure. gregj won't be there today :(
13:00.16dankolbLeeds: Did you want VMWare?
13:00.23Leedsnot particularly, but thanks
13:00.46dankolbWell, if not particularly, it can go to others. I'm just wondering how many I should bring to the pub
13:01.21Leedsx86 is just... boring :-)
13:01.29dankolbI know.
13:01.51dankolbBut you won't give me a nice Sparc machine
13:02.59pawelszin poland i have some sparc machines.
13:03.09dankolb:)
13:03.15dankolbI've got a couple of SPARC-1s
13:03.28pawelszbut all what i havethat'is a old sparc stations.
13:03.28highburydon't give dankolb any machines! he already has too many!
13:03.57pawelszs/"havethat'is"/"have that's"/
13:04.33dankolbhighbury: Oi! :)
13:12.38pawelszsomebody have maybe some notused old rtl or 3com card, can land and will be in pub? 8-)
13:14.37dankolbhighbury: Will you pass by pub today? Or are you not sure yet?
13:24.25murblewho stole my glasses?
13:24.32Leedsthat crow
13:25.34dankolbmurble: Do you want a copy of VMWare express?
13:25.43dankolbOr VMWare for Windows?
13:25.48murbledankolb: for linux.
13:25.53murbleplease.
13:26.08dankolbUmm. That'll have to be express, then :-/
13:26.35dankolbTurns out they've dumped lots of copies of the Windows version on us
13:28.16dankolbWould that be okay?
13:30.20dankolbHm. Now why did Wethrin quit with Operation timed out, and Jenson quit with No route to host?
13:32.01Leedsbecause the routing tables got updated in the meantime?
13:32.48dankolbIt's from the same machine, though.
13:32.58dankolbSo it'd make some sense to time out together. I'd have thought, at least.
13:39.39pawelszdankolb: how I will see gllugers in pub? ;-)
13:39.51dankolbpawelsz: You'll know.... :)
13:39.58dankolbI'm wearing a LinuxUser T-Shirt.
13:40.16pawelszOK. :-)
13:49.09murblewhat is wrong with express?
13:49.40dankolbIt only runs Win95 and 98
13:50.25murbleoh then i won't bother, i was after somthing that woudl run linux.
13:50.47dankolbI can run you off a copy of mine if you'd like
13:51.10murblenah, i could get a dodgy copy if i wanted one myself..
13:51.16dankolbAh. Sorry :-/
13:53.08JDdankolb: try not to get me a copy of express
13:53.36JDalthough beggars can't be choosers
13:53.53dankolbJD: You got in there early enough still
13:54.16JD:)
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14:14.17formihello, I got a quick dns question, quick as in I need to go in 10min, anybody up for it?
14:16.38Leedstry us
14:17.23formi172.20.0.10.1640 > 172.20.0.5.53:  35517+ A? tp.localdomain.org. (36)
14:17.23formi172.20.0.5.53 > 172.20.0.10.1640:  35517* 1/1/1 A 172.20.0.10 (87)
14:17.23formi172.20.0.10.1641 > 172.20.0.5.53:  35518+ A? tp.localdomain.org. (36)
14:17.23formi172.20.0.5.53 > 172.20.0.10.1641:  35518* 1/1/1 A 172.20.0.10 (87)
14:17.23formi172.20.0.10.1642 > 172.20.0.5.53:  35519+ A? tp.localdomain.org. (36)
14:17.25formi172.20.0.5.53 > 172.20.0.10.1642:  35519* 1/1/1 A 172.20.0.10 (87)
14:17.49formiok, that was privoxy or firebird
14:18.06formii happened when i launched firebird
14:18.41murblewhat proccess dunnit?
14:18.42formiif i do a nslookup tp.localdomain.org it gets resolved properly
14:18.50Leedswhat's your question?
14:19.01Leedsyou really shouldn't be using localdomain.org unless you own it
14:20.34formiit's seems to me that whatever does the dns request ignores the 1st and 2nd answer
14:21.22formiit also happens with other domains, and in some cause the isp dns servers are queried, when the local has already sent an answer back
14:25.37Leedsnot so much a DNS thing, I guess... more the app in question...
14:25.40Leedsand I don't know why
14:28.20formitime to go, be back in 30-45 min, I'll have a look to see if I can isolate the culprit
14:28.36formita for the input
14:40.07gregjhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/3269703.stm
14:40.23gregjbush is about to visit his subpuddle :-)
14:40.39gregjAsked if he will be able to understand the accent, the President replied: "My Geordie is probably just about as bad as my English.
14:40.52gregj"And I hope they understand Texan. You know what I'm saying? "
14:40.54gregj;]
15:02.50gregjwii dankolb
15:02.52gregjoops
15:09.56dankolbhi
15:12.40gregjdankolb: Czesc
15:12.49dankolbCzesc.
15:12.54dankolbI'm very unhappy at the moment
15:13.05gregjwhat worries you my friend
15:13.16dankolbMy server.
15:13.21dankolbIt's Dead. Dead dead dead.
15:13.26gregjkick it
15:13.27gregj:-)
15:13.37dankolbApparently a rather fatal kernel panic about being unable to get to the root filesystem.
15:13.46dankolbMy legs aren't long enough to reach the US
15:13.50gregjhehe
15:13.55dankolbAnd they said that it needs a system restore
15:14.02gregjhmm
15:14.04gregjthat's odd
15:14.17gregjit does not happend everyday, that fs dies
15:14.36dankolbNo. It happened after 250+ days of uptime
15:15.51gregjso you managed to disturb his great life
15:17.21dankolbIt Just Happened.
15:17.32dankolbAnd wonderfully, they just tried rebooting it without saying what was wrong
15:17.33Leedswhich, of course, is why you want a server in Fulham :-)
15:17.39dankolbLeeds: Precicesly :)
15:19.15gregjwas it very busy ?
15:19.48gregjafair in last 250 days ppl managed to find at least 2 critical problems in kernel, so maybe it was worth rebooting it more often :-)
15:20.18gregjto not mention problems in raiserfs it self
15:20.44dankolbI wasn't using Reiser.
15:21.36dankolbHmm....
15:22.05dankolbCould have been an odd kernel panic that screwed it up. ICMP could still get through, but TCP connections couldn't be established
15:22.20dankolbLeeds: How soon could I move in? :-)
15:22.35Leedsgood question...
15:22.58Leedsis the machine built and ready?
15:23.37dankolbNo, but should hopefully be set up as much as possible by Sunday.
15:24.01LeedsI still need to check out logistics...
15:24.08gregjdankolb: http://userfriendly.pl/2003/01/11.shtml
15:25.19gregjcoffe bad, cola good
15:25.31gregji have to go to shop and buy some, unfortunatelly
15:27.57gregjand shop is just few corners away
15:28.12dankolb:)
15:29.18dankolbCoffee is goooooood
15:29.20dankolb:)
15:29.35dankolbLeeds: Is there any plan to get some sort of serial console?
15:29.58Leedsum... probably not, maybe
15:30.10Leedswe were going to connect our two boxes back-to-back...
15:30.30Leedssuppose we could always enable another serial port somewhere
15:31.37dankolbWell...it's something that's useful, although not essential
15:32.00gregjdankolb: this one you should understeand http://userfriendly.pl/2003/01/19.shtml
15:34.02dankolbMmm
15:35.45gregjthere is nothing better for me than old UF
15:36.11dankolbBetter than KDE coding?
15:37.47gregjwe are in absolute freeze atm
15:37.55gregji am almost not working on it
15:37.58gregjjust bugfixes
15:38.10gregjso far, my account on bugzilla is empty
15:38.16gregj:-)
15:38.25gregji managed to write perfect piece
15:38.28gregj;]
15:38.32dankolbHeh
15:38.39dankolbRight. Go fix my server then :)
15:38.43Leedsnah, it's just that no-one uses your stuff :-P
15:39.29gregjis it your private one, or some Su^H^HNovell's
15:40.04gregjhttp://userfriendly.pl/2001/01/06.shtml
15:40.18gregji don't know if there is english version avaliable for so old UFs
15:42.17dankolbMy own one
15:42.19dankolbThe one that's dead
15:42.55gregjhttp://userfriendly.pl/2001/01/12.shtml
15:42.59gregjuf is great
15:43.15gregjwhat kind of machine is this ?
15:43.39gregji though it migh be raiserfs, since Novell uses it
15:43.46zacharygregj: pubing tonight?
15:44.07dankolbgregj: Some shitty DeadRat PC
15:44.11dankolbI don't know exactly
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15:45.04gregjzachary: i'm ill
15:45.23gregjgot 39C and my head is about to explode
15:45.27gregjbut i cannot sleep
15:45.37zacharyA pint will fix that.
15:46.02dankolbA pint of Vodka.
15:46.08Leedsyou should really be in a cool bed in a quiet dark room, you know
15:46.23dankolbYes. Go to a different IRC channel :)
15:47.24gregjLeeds: i am in dark , quiet room
15:47.35gregjLeeds: i got no windows, whatsoever
15:47.36Leedswithout a screen on!
15:47.43zacharyGotta go, need money for tonight.(time to work the streets)
15:48.02Leedszachary: give 'em one for me :-)
15:48.03gregjdankolb: ;]
15:48.22dankolbgregj: Does that mean we need to drink for you at the pub?
15:48.32gregjyes, unfortunatelly
15:48.46gregjunless someone will visit me and bring some beer
15:48.51gregjalong
15:49.57dankolbHm
15:50.40gregjwherever i go, whatever i see everything works on windows
15:50.51Leedsnot as bad for me
15:50.53gregji think i have to back to old times, and hack again
15:51.17gregjchange the world :-)
15:52.29dankolbheh
15:54.22gregji don't have that much time :(
15:54.23gregjech
15:54.43gregji want to be 15 again, and my parents to pay for everything
15:55.00Leedswelcome to the world of tomorrow!
15:55.02dankolbHeh
15:57.29gregji think i'll setup windows 2003 server on this vmware, and will bitch IIS ;P
15:57.45gregjunless it is written in some .net or somethin
15:58.05dankolbHm. Win2003 might not work under this version
16:00.16gregjthis VMware is old or something, isn't
16:00.22gregjit
16:02.39dankolbYes. One version old
16:03.20gregjwell, it is still usefull when you want to see new crap redhatish distro or something, isn't
16:03.23gregjit
16:03.49dankolbYeah
16:05.11gregjor it should be "tends" perhaps
16:05.27dankolbYes. You're talking in 3rd person
16:06.30gregj:-)
16:08.41nasratgregj: hey I quite like fedora
16:09.12gregjit is too redhatis
16:09.12gregjh
16:09.19gregjnon free distros sux
16:09.42nasratgregj: how is fedora non-free?
16:09.48dankolbUse Slackware! :)
16:10.06gregjit is
16:10.20gregjdebian is a GNU/GPL decent Linux distro
16:10.45gregjnasrat: fedora 1000 maybe will be good enough , but this is just pretty much updated and fscked redhat 9
16:10.48dankolbBut Debian sucks :)
16:10.55gregjsucks slacks
16:11.12dankolbNo beer for you!
16:11.16gregj:(
16:13.00Leedsgo to your room!
16:13.02dankolbDouble pints for saying Debian Sucks and switching to Slackware :)
16:13.12Leedsooh, ooh!! meeeee :-)
16:13.50dankolbYou've already switched :-P
16:15.04Leedsbah - you calling me a switcher?
16:15.42dankolbDepends....are you the popular front or the people's front?
16:16.14Leedsoh, I'm popular
16:16.51dankolbSwitcher.
16:22.57gregjdankolb: you are going to take those boxes with you ?
16:23.13gregjshit is friday
16:23.18gregjit is
16:23.20Leedsno, no
16:23.21gregji mean
16:23.21gregj:]
16:23.25Leedsgood is friday! :-)
16:23.29gregj:-)
16:23.29gregj;]
16:23.35dankolbgregj: Depends where
16:24.49gregjdankolb: i mean, are they reserved and are waiting for me, and when can i pick them up
16:24.58gregjhopefully i will be alive by monday
16:25.12dankolbCome down to Hammersmith next week and ask for Roger :)
16:26.01gregjwhy not for You ?
16:27.56dankolbBecause I'm here only on Wednesday afternoons and Fridays.
16:28.05dankolbAnd next week I'll only be in on Wednesday and Thursday afternoon
16:28.10Leedsbecause you're a bloody part-timer :-)
16:29.39gregjstudent
16:31.13dankolbHeh
16:32.01gregjhttp://userfriendly.pl/2001/03/08.shtml
16:32.19gregjthis , historical now sentence: "God, root, what's the difference?"
16:32.55dankolb:)
16:33.36gregjthis is for sure uncorrect
16:33.48dankolbincorrect
16:33.50gregjcan someone correct me ?
16:34.04gregjcorrect 2 :-)
16:36.58dankolbHm?
16:39.43ClyphoxBEER
16:40.00formiAOSs
16:40.07dankolbYes. You shall get beer if you bring hard drive, processor and a processor fan
16:40.17ClyphoxAnd RAM
16:40.22formis/AOS/AAs
16:40.29dankolb(although if you want to swap processors, bring your heatsink+fan, and you can swap mine out any time)
16:40.31Clyphoxdankolb: which pub?
16:40.38gregjnaked man /
16:40.40gregj?
16:40.52dankolbClyphox: RTFE :) Jeremy Bentham.
16:40.54dankolbUniversity Street.
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16:41.24dankolbFor you, get down to Warren Street. Wander down Tottenham Court Road. Turn left when you get to University Street (very close by)
16:41.53ClyphoxRTFE?
16:42.02dankolbRead The Fine Email
16:42.15gregj:-)
16:42.32gregjit should be "Read The Fine eMail"
16:42.55ClyphoxI just got home.. soz
16:43.13Leedshe he
16:44.02Leedsjust got the BBC 6music weekly newsletter... and a couple of vacation bounces... I guess someone put the newsletter on "anyone can post" or "subscribers can post" as opposed to "owner can post" :-)
16:45.45Leedsdankolb: is the pub obvious and does it serve food?
16:45.59dankolbyes, and yes (I think)
16:46.22Leedsgood... apparently the show doesn't finish until 2240, so the plan is to have food in advance
16:46.39Leedsand... Warren St. is the right station?
16:46.47dankolbYes, or Euston Square
16:46.59dankolbUni Street goes between TCR and Gower Street
16:46.59Leedsbah
16:47.58Leedsso the trick is get on TCR @ Warren St., wander south until Uni St. presents itself on the left... follow Uni St. to pub...
16:48.15Leedsexcept, of course, I want to go buy a laptop bag firsst... like now
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16:49.37dankolbyes
16:49.38Leedsboom
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16:50.15dankolbYup
16:50.43ClyphoxI don't have one from u mate
16:50.54dankolbWhat?
16:50.58dankolbNo. Gllug email.
16:51.49ClyphoxI get enough email
16:52.15dankolbYou won't be getting any for a bit from starkfamily.net
16:55.10Clyphoxas of when?
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16:55.24dankolbAs of about 5 hours ago
16:55.24Clyphoxiirc my MX is not on eco.li
16:55.43dankolbAh, no. So you're okay.
16:57.29dankolbC'ya
17:01.05Clyphoxbefore I down my PC.. what is the pub's name?
17:03.53Clyphoxanyone?
17:05.33gregjall gone
17:05.38gregjRead The Fine eMail
17:05.54Clyphoxwhich? browsing the list online now
17:07.34gregj|16:40 < dankolb> Clyphox: RTFE :) Jeremy Bentham.
17:07.34gregj|16:40 < dankolb> University Street.
17:54.17gregjdankolb: http://userfriendly.pl/2001/06/26.shtml
18:03.28pawelsz:-)
18:07.55gregjpawelsz: mam tylko tego 3coma, nie mam nic innego na PCI
18:14.05JDhi all
18:17.21gregjHi
18:17.28gregjare you not going to pub tonight ?
18:17.45gregjas a matter of fact, i got question to you
18:18.04gregjdeb ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian ../project/experimental main
18:18.14gregjthis line does not work in mine sources.list
18:18.20gregjwhat is wrong here ?
18:20.42gregjit suppose to pick up new packages from experimental, i want Xfree 4.3 at least
18:24.04gregjhttp://userfriendly.pl/2001/08/06.shtml
18:31.42gregjhmm
18:31.43gregj:/
18:35.43gregjwell, me goes shopping
18:38.12stephenfor debian packages?
18:38.29stephendidn't know you had to pay for them these days
18:38.54gregjpay ?
18:39.05gregjoh
18:39.09stephen:p
18:39.12gregjvf
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19:34.45Jensongrrr GAIM IRC is weird
19:34.56Jensonbut seenas it seems to be the only irc client i have installed
19:35.27Jensonoh and heya all
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19:48.50Jensonhiya stephanb
19:49.43stephanbhi everybody
19:49.51stephanbwhere can i find perl-tk for redhat 9 ? (rpm)
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19:54.09Jensondinner BBL
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21:57.53eye69G'd evening
21:58.03Jensonheya
21:58.13JDhi
21:58.17Jensonheya JD
21:59.34eye69Damn, I always miss Dead Like Me.
21:59.56JDeye69: I normally do because I normally go out on Friday nights
22:00.22JensonJD: not girl hunting tonight then?
22:00.43JDno she isn;t coming, so I didn;t go out
22:00.58Jensonbah
22:01.04JDindeed
22:01.25JensonWell Costa will be back Tuesday, its a week til I'm gonna see him
22:04.44JDawwww
22:05.07Jensonyeh i miss him
22:17.58Jensongoodnight everyone
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