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00:00.41Leedsbong! Midnight and all's well
00:01.39WethrinYes.
00:02.49JDLeeds: except you were late
00:03.10JDWethrin: I may be coming into KCX on Friday
00:03.17JDnot that it will make much difference
00:05.19WethrinJD: Not much, except you can get the Piccadilly Line directly to South Ken
00:05.59JDyeah
00:06.12JDstill meet at green park?
00:06.29WethrinSure, if you don't mind getting off your tube :)
00:06.44JDnned to check I can get a bed in cambridge
00:07.03Wethrink
00:07.09WethrinAnyway, I need to sleep
00:07.10Wethring'night :)
00:09.33LeedsJD: not late on my screen :-)
00:09.46JD00:01:02 < Leeds> bong! Midnight and all's well
00:10.00Leedssays 00:00 to me
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01:04.53highburywell, I've created myself some LVM partitions, copying over some data to them, next reboot in the morning...
01:04.56highburynn
01:05.00Leedsnight
01:05.28highburySUSE's graphical LVM config, probably makes things too easy
01:06.05murblehighbury:
01:06.14Leedsheh... I did mine myself, but I do need to manually configure it on boot
01:06.17murbledon't such gui things when lots of data is envolved make you a bit nervious?
01:06.32highbury;-)
01:07.17highburyI'm just going to use it for unimporant mirrored data, perhaps my iso images
01:07.33highburyanyways time for bed! ...zzz
01:07.41murblehighbury: and then build up to more important things like tax returns etc later :) ?
01:08.14Leedsmurble: don't say the t.r. phrase!
01:08.27murbleLeeds: is it bad luck?
01:08.42Leedsscary
01:09.10murbleI've got to find out how to find out if my previous employer has been paying me NI somehow later today.
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01:34.53Marios|AwayLeeds << I just saw the message
01:35.27Leedsgood...
01:35.40Marioswell the story was old...I was just wondering whether anybody will start that project again
01:35.46Leedsdoubt it
01:35.58Mariosit sounds a nice idea
01:36.29Leedsto be honest, I didn't read the whole story... but I think Linux does a lot of the job today
01:36.52Mariosof course it does
01:37.01Mariosthat's why we are all here ;)
01:37.15Mariosis there an OS written in C++ ??
01:41.46Leedsnot that I know of... maybe BeOS? or some of it
01:42.04Leedsand I don't know how much of OSX/NextStep is in objC
01:42.24Leedsanyway... bedtime
01:42.37Leedsg'night
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05:13.29JDmoin
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08:16.37Xiaoqihihi
08:43.22JDhi
08:43.23JDbye
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09:35.26jason_ukfsnGood morning everybody and welcome to Tuesday.
09:36.10murbleurgle
09:37.08jason_ukfsnmurble: have you found a new job yet?
09:44.45murbleno, i just woek up early by accident...
09:50.05TarragonHow do you manage to wake up "by accident"?
09:57.44murblewell, i woke up.  I can't see anything delibrate about it, especailly considering the time.
09:59.06jason_ukfsnmurble: but why didn't you just go back to sleep?
09:59.35murblejason_ukfsn: because i accidently had a shower and drank the best part of a pot of tea.
09:59.42jason_ukfsnLOL!
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10:04.58axelSg'morning
10:05.44jason_ukfsnmorning axelS
10:06.05jason_ukfsnDid you wake up purposefully this morning?
10:06.37axelSyes
10:06.53axelSpurposefully swore and screamed at blueyonder
10:07.26jason_ukfsnis that not part of the normal wake up routine of all their users?
10:07.36axelSyep :)
10:08.06axelSthey updated their "services" this morning and messed it up (again)
10:08.17axelSsomebody must have forgotten to flick a switch... no DHCP lease for 5 hours :(
10:09.00jason_ukfsnI had a similar thing last week with NTL.
10:09.24jason_ukfsnI really must sort out a switch back to BT/Sky - particularly now that I can provide my own broadband.
10:09.34axelShow do you do that?
10:10.04jason_ukfsnI run the ISP I'll order it from ;)
10:10.13jason_ukfsnThat means I pay the wholesale price.
10:10.28murbleis tiscali dsl much better than ntl?
10:10.32axelSyou lucky b... ;)
10:10.34eye69jason_ukfsn: No fair!
10:10.36eye69:)
10:10.45axelSthat woke them up LOL
10:11.11jason_ukfsnmurble: all my users who are on it say it's good. Also I'll be able to have static IPs.
10:11.14axelSright, back to work then
10:11.22jason_ukfsnI don't have to use Tiscali though as I have 2 telco ADSL suppliers
10:11.43murbleClara as well?
10:12.28jason_ukfsnNo - Netservices. They offered me more facilities and lower prices. At the moment Tiscali are offering me really low prices for 1Mb home adsl and free activation though - hence the special offers
10:13.13jason_ukfsnIn some ways Tiscali's serivce is better and in some the service from NetServices is better. I'm trying to ensure I use the best from each.
10:13.21murblei wish they'd do somthing useful like symetric 512 rather than 1mb/256
10:14.09jason_ukfsnIt's a BT imposed limit. SDSL services are available now but they are expensive as they're being pushed to those who want leased lines.
10:14.52murbleI well would like a leased line. but for no more than 30 quid / month :)
10:15.22eye69In Sweden you can get a 26Mb line for about 30 quid
10:15.43murblecertainly my adsl has been as reliable as any leased line i've expereicned.
10:16.00murbleeye69: yet you choose to live in the uk.
10:16.05eye6910Mb lines have been running for years, for around 15-20 quid
10:16.10jason_ukfsnI'm with murble on that last comment.
10:16.27jason_ukfsneye69: how much international bandwidth can you use from that 10Mb line though?
10:17.28eye69jason_ukfsn: From what I've experienced they're 10Mb lines, pure and simple. Also, you get 5 DHCP IP's.
10:18.52jason_ukfsnyes eye69 but what's the contention ratio?
10:19.24jason_ukfsnArg! I've just discovered that scribus's website is on a stupid port and thus fubared through a secured proxy
10:21.26eye69jason_ukfsn: I can't give you any numbers, but from what I've experienced they are very good connections. Not much contention on them.
10:22.12jason_ukfsneye69: are there any limits on hosting your own servers?
10:22.32jason_ukfsnSounds like a good way to host a mirror.
10:23.04eye69jason_ukfsn: As long as it's nothing that sucks all the bandwidth, it's fine. They seem to put up with a lot though.
10:23.25eye69UK is now where Sweden was a few years ago.
10:24.38eye69Now people in Sweden are complaining if they can't get an 8-10 Mb line where they live. Not being able to get ADSL is unheard of.
10:27.22jason_ukfsnwell BT did announce that they will make ADSL available to all UK exchanges with the exception of about 100 (those with less than 200 subscribers on them)
10:27.29murbleeye69: even if you live 10 km from the nearest town?
10:27.56jason_ukfsnWe do still face higher bandwidth costs though - I guess that's just part of being an island.
10:28.18eye69murble: If you live in a cabin in the forest far from society, maybe then.
10:28.40jason_ukfsnmurble: the 6km limi is an artificial limit imposed by BT.
10:28.45murbleeye69: or decent house.
10:29.00murblejason_ukfsn:  you should see the state of the roads (unmetaled) and everything.
10:29.08eye69murble: You know what I mean. :)
10:29.09murblethey do plough the roads twice a year though.
10:29.42jason_ukfsnBT were technically able to offer ADSL services at the current <= 2M speed at higher distances over 6 years ago - I remember them boasting about it when I visited Martlesham labs
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11:22.47pawelszmorning.
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12:02.24Leedsyo!
12:04.43pawelszy0 m3n.
12:04.45pawelsz;-)
13:10.36axelStime to install debian... bbl
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14:30.49JDhi
14:31.15Leedsho
14:31.35JDthis screen is horirble
14:31.58JDthe brightness of the screen depends on how much white is also displayed
14:32.35Leedsmy screen at home gets wider as it gets whiter...
15:26.37gregjre
15:26.48gregjWethrin: present ?
15:26.53zacharyafternoon gregj
15:27.09zacharyW not with us yet.
15:28.12gregjwell
15:28.28gregji am feeling better today, as a matter of fact even very well :-)
15:28.29Leedsmaybe he's working or something, not like us slackers
15:28.37gregjhehe
15:28.51gregjfor puddles Novell ?
15:29.00gregjpuddels
15:29.12gregjzachary: how is sftp issue?
15:29.18Leedsyes... for wet networking software
15:29.51zacharystill not working yet.
15:30.06gregjwet ?
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16:31.45Leedshi ibot :-)
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16:41.13LeedsWethrin: noticed SCO's next move?
16:58.14WethrinNope
16:58.20WethrinI haven't been keeping up to date
16:58.57LeedsApparently Novell buying SUSE is a violation of a non-compete clause from the UNIX sale contract...
17:02.13WethrinAnd Novell is saying "Screw you" to SCO :)
17:02.51Leedswell duh :-)
17:03.57gregjeveryone seem to apparently say that to SCO
17:04.02gregjand they don't care
17:04.06gregjhard ones :-)
17:04.55WethrinHeh
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17:12.20armijn'lo.
17:20.31Tarragonhi
17:21.19armijnwriting papers can be boring :(
17:21.31murbleatleast it is somthing todo.
17:21.37armijnyeh.
17:24.37armijnhmm, looks like I'm going to berlin early december for conference...
17:28.10murblefun?
17:28.47armijnI hope so
17:29.08armijnSunNetwork
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17:29.42jason_ukfsnhey all
17:30.33murbleevening jason
17:35.28jason_ukfsnit is, isn't it.
17:35.46jason_ukfsnping Leeds
17:46.12irvinedany idea what would cause my kb in X to stop working.
17:46.17irvinedwell its never worked to beginwith.
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18:00.23highburyglark! I set a recursive wget on the old zope gllug.linux.co.uk web site, and its bee running for an hour!
18:00.47WethrinHeh
18:06.18Leedspong, but about to go home
18:10.50WethrinPubtime!
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18:43.14Marios_hey
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19:38.33Leeds_macfoo...
19:39.00Jensonbar
19:46.25gregj:]
19:50.00Xiaoqihihi
19:50.04Jensonheya Xiaoqi
19:50.19Jensonim bored, i cant decide whether to read bash.org or go read a unix guide
19:58.50Xiaoqihehe
19:58.54Xiaoqiyou must be bored!
19:59.19Jensonbash.org is fscking cool man
20:10.40Jensonbloody hell, i think of something intelligent and go to tell me mother, and she's asleep lol
20:10.45Jensons/me/my
20:10.49Jensongrrr still cant type though
20:14.11Leeds_machmmm... reference to a naked Gandalf, but that's more like "The Ring of the Lord"
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20:15.09jason_ukfsnhi all
20:15.44Leeds_machi
20:16.15Jensonhi jason_ukfsn
20:16.38Leeds_machmm... where did that www come from?
20:17.34Jensonwhihc www
20:18.02Jensonthey kept cold-calling us advertising their broadband, and ntl/telewest still dont provide here
20:18.09Jensons/of/off
20:19.14jason_ukfsnJenson: tell them to send a sales person around to take your order. Then when they turn up tell them to f*ck off
20:19.24JDanyone seen stig recently?
20:19.56JDjason_ukfsn: I may be coming for adsl
20:20.32jason_ukfsnDon't forget that activation if free at the moment. For now it's until the end of the month however I'm talking to them about extending the offer until the end of the year.
20:20.37Leeds_macJD: not, not seen stig in a while
20:21.11JensonJD: me either
20:21.15JDjason_ukfsn: only passed trigger level yesterday (due to setting of trigger instead of unviable) so will be a few months yet
20:21.21JDibot: seen skugg
20:21.25skugg <~stig@193.201.201.102> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 3d 7h 20m 43s ago, saying: 'dankolb: congrats :)'.
20:21.36JDhmm when I last saw him too
20:21.42Jensoni will get adsl once i can afford a modem
20:21.59jason_ukfsnJD has the trigger level been met yet?
20:22.26JDjason_ukfsn: yes
20:22.30jason_ukfsnJenson: modem's are cheap now - actually routers are cheap. Ebuyer do one for about £40 which has been getting really good reviews.
20:22.43jason_ukfsnJD did BT set a date yet?
20:22.59JDno not yet
20:23.04Jensonjason_ukfsn: yeh, its the whole linux/usb compatibility thing
20:23.22jason_ukfsnJenson: with a router there are no compatibility issues - it's just an ethernet connection.
20:23.47Jensonjason_ukfsn: yeh, that woould mean getting my boy/f to teach me to network though
20:24.14JDor you could ask here
20:24.23Jensoni intend to get my modem, getting broadband might have to wait a month
20:25.01Leeds_macJD: don't be silly
20:25.02jason_ukfsnJenson: be sure that you can get service before you order a modem and don't forget you need a microfilter for each phone/extension on the line - including alarms
20:26.10Jensonjason_ukfsn: yeh, i can get service, just not ntl, and yeh i know that, but luckily we only have 2 things on out phone netwrok, not including the dial up modem, so that shouldnt be too much of a problem
20:26.38Jensonwhat do you guys know about http://www.dabs.com/uk/channels/hardware/modemsandadslhardware/productView.htm?quicklinx=17P8
20:27.22Jensonwould of course help if i had more than one working network card
20:29.53jason_ukfsnJenson: I believe it's the same modem as being offered by Ebuyer. The price also looks to be the same. It's a very good router although the default settings are not very secure.
20:31.34Leeds_machang on...
20:32.38Leeds_macokay... not quite the one I've got, but it looks similar and I guess it's the same chipset
20:33.17Jenson£50 activation
20:33.58Leeds_machah... Peter Jackson noting continuity errors while recording the commentary :-)
20:35.20Jensondial up is fine really, just downloading is a pain, and ppl will insist on sendind amusing porn links on irc when they are all laughing and you're still d/ling its kinda dumb
20:35.25murblejason_ukfsn: you mean the 35 quid ebuyer reouter?
20:35.45murblethe origo 8100 has a major security vulnerbility
20:35.57murbleatleast in the firmware of the version i have.
20:36.43Jensonoh yeh, i forgot tiscali are all up their own arses about not taking debit cards
20:36.56jason_ukfsnmurble: apparently it can be made secure
20:37.13jason_ukfsnJenson: UKFSN is offering free activation at the moment and is cheaper than Tiscali for 512K service.
20:38.01Jensonjason_ukfsn: I will look
20:38.13Jensonplus tiscali doesnt support Mac, though that shouldnt affect linux
20:38.32jason_ukfsnTiscali don't support anything or anyone ;)
20:38.41murblejason_ukfsn: yes it can be made better, but it is still very icky
20:38.51murbleunless they've released a firmware fix.
20:39.05jason_ukfsnI dunno murble - I just keep seeing good reviews for it.
20:39.27jason_ukfsnmurble: what is the security vuln you're talking about?
20:40.57Jensonjason_ukfsn: do tell me if you the extend the free activation, coz there is no point getting adsl activated before i've got a moem anyway
20:41.01murblehttp://www.securitytracker.com/alerts/2003/Oct/1007965.html
20:41.58Leeds_macJenson: sure there is
20:42.29murbleyou can mitigate with half bridge mode, or dnating that port into someplace else.
20:44.06murbleLeeds_mac: you have that router?
20:44.25murbledon't you find the half briging thing rather ickly the way it arps for 0/0 ?
20:44.34Leeds_macsimilar one
20:44.42Leeds_macI haven't noticed that
20:44.46murblealso have you got half bridging to work when you have a routed block of addresses.
20:44.52murbleLeeds_mac: probably identical insides then.
20:45.01Leeds_macgive me a block and I'll test it!
20:45.14Jensonjason_ukfsn: you haver a 12 month contract on that free activation though, trouble is, i hope to be moving with 12 months if im lucky, and my parents dont need broadband
20:45.41Leeds_macyou've got to pay one way or another, Jenson
20:45.58JensonLeeds_mac: duh
20:46.16jason_ukfsnmurble: what firmware do you have?
20:46.20Jensonwell, no actually, coz i dont have to pay my dial up subscription, my dad does that
20:47.05Leeds_macno, I mean you either pay a setup or sign for a minimum term...
20:47.50Jensonlike contract/payg phones....
20:48.02murblejason_ukfsn: the latest i could find, i'm not actulally have it switched on to test it though.
20:48.03Jensonyay nearly phone bill time in all, bloody thing
20:48.07jason_ukfsnJenson: I think Leeds_mac meant that you either pay for the activation or for a longer contract.
20:48.34murbleJenson: or someone 10 quid to fix it for you.
20:48.54Jensonthing is, once i have a proper job, i'll probably be too whacked to go online anyway
20:49.25jason_ukfsnJenson: you're looking for a job being whacked?
20:49.34Jensonlol
20:49.57Jensonim looking for a job so i dont spewnd three quarters of my monthly income on my phone bill
20:50.20Leeds_macum... um... well...
20:50.51Jensonwell yeh
20:51.03Leeds_macdon't use the phone so much?  try to get a better tariff?
20:51.34Jensonim addicted to randomly calling ppl thats the problem
20:52.39Leeds_macyes, I can see that would be a problem
20:53.21Jensonyay, phone bill cheque has cleared, i have £14, which isnt too bad considering i get paid in a few days
20:54.37Jensonim pissed off at my bank
20:55.25Jensoni depositied two cheques today, which added up to £5, now i wanna know when they clear, but instead, my bank seems to have Just added the word CREDIT and creddited the £5
20:55.29Leeds_macdifferent, surely?
20:55.40Jensongod i really gotta wee
20:55.49jason_ukfsnthis week I've had someone complaining about an electrician not turning up, debt collectors for someone I've never heard of and someone else wanting to make an appointment to see the dentist
20:55.53Leeds_macthere's that id!
20:56.30Jensonlol sorry
20:56.31jason_ukfsnpractising psych-analysis Leeds_mac?
20:56.32Jensonbut i had
20:56.51Jensonjason_ukfsn: we always used to get the chip shop orders
20:57.11Leeds_macjason_ukfsn: heh
20:57.57jason_ukfsnI arranged a new appointment for the electrician for tomorrow afternoon, told the debt collectors that the person couldn't come to the phone as she was tied up (literally) and informed the dentist's patient that he'd been taken ill with some horrible contagious disease and all past patients need to get to a dr asap
20:58.18Jenson5lol
20:58.40jason_ukfsnI figure that if people go to the trouble of calling me I can at least have some amusement from it.
21:00.30Jensonyeh
21:00.56Leeds_macfirst disk done... time to charge the laptop :-)
21:07.05Jensoni just went to take my guinea pigs and rabbit some supper
21:07.08Jensonand now im off to do some stuff, BBL
21:09.44zacharyTomarrow I am going back to being full time Mr. Mom.
21:11.48Leeds_macTomorrow I am going to LotR exhibition at Science Museum
21:12.31murbleisn't that very very expenceive?
21:12.42murbleisns't it cheaper just to look in the window of forbidden planet?
21:16.36Leeds_macsure, much cheaper... like listening to a song on the radio in a shop is cheaper than going to a concert
21:17.30jason_ukfsnLeeds_mac: why will there be real hobbits and elves at the museum?
21:18.26Leeds_macyes!
21:19.13jason_ukfsntomorrow I'll be doing loads of paperwork :(
21:21.27jason_ukfsnph well I need to get going and finish off for the day.
21:21.31jason_ukfsnhave fun all
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22:11.05JDhmmm Jenson just doesn;t look like a rebecca
22:11.23JensonJD: fsck you :P
22:11.35Jensonbesides
22:11.38JensonI didnt put that their
22:11.43JensonDan did
22:12.03JDssh Rebecca
22:13.02Jensoni dont even want it there, but the manpage doesnt say how to change it
22:15.04stephenwhat IRC client are you using?
22:15.40Jensonirssi, and it tells you on the FAQ how to do it, if it actually worked it would help
22:16.05Jensonbah, wait, it says it doesnt work
22:16.09stephen/set real_name foobar
22:16.09Jensonthat would be the problem
22:16.27Jensonbah
22:16.33Jensonwell the FAQ is just shit then
22:16.45stephenwrite a better one :)
22:17.20Jensonwell, it said it worked although it didnt
22:17.21JensonBRB
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22:18.22Jensonthere
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22:29.11Leedsanyone awake?
22:29.27Jensonyeh
22:29.27Jensonhi
22:30.13Leedscan you see www.icculus.org ?
22:30.56Jensonapparently not
22:31.00Jensonor its very very slow
22:31.08Leedsbummer... thanks
22:31.20Jensonyw
22:33.22stephenI can't even resolve that host
22:33.47Jensonoh i did
22:33.49Leedsright
22:33.52Leedsoh?
22:33.55Jensonbut it didnt get further than just wating
22:33.58Jensonwaiting
22:34.23Leedshmm... I wonder if they just released something new and cool :-)
22:34.35Jensonwhat is it anyway?
22:35.04Leedsthe top Linux gaming development site
22:35.28Jensonoh, not really got into linux gaming yet
22:35.32Jensoni installed doom
22:39.10Jensonwell, i think its time for sleep
22:39.12Jensonnight guys
22:40.31JDnight Rebecca
23:40.06Leedsicculus.org is back, if anyone cares
23:43.28Leedsand I'm - slowly - installing NWN
23:47.39Leedshttp://ukiro.com/pics/ :-)

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