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| 01:20.18 | formi | allo |
| 01:20.26 | murble | hi |
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| 05:08.12 | Cope | Hi |
| 05:08.18 | murble | hi Cope |
| 05:08.21 | murble | surviving? |
| 05:08.36 | Cope | Just about - had about 2 hours sleep since 8am |
| 05:09.15 | Cope | William has decided he will cry unless he is cuddled by Sophie or Me; he'll sleep next to us, but not in his crib atm. |
| 05:11.52 | murble | i appear to have fund a nice repeatable (maybe) bug in ipsec |
| 05:12.44 | Cope | I've been messing about with a netbsd install, but haven't even managed to get network configured. |
| 05:12.59 | murble | playing with ipcomp and setkey |
| 05:13.10 | murble | and fatally ip tunnel add |
| 05:13.15 | Cope | Ah |
| 05:13.38 | Cope | Have you used any of the *bsd's before? |
| 05:14.00 | murble | yeah, i'm running a freebsd firewall for a school in .be |
| 05:14.47 | Cope | I admit I've not been in the best frame of mind, but its very alien to me; and so far to have not even managed to get the network working to get packages has not been an auspicious start. |
| 05:15.32 | murble | what network interfaces do you have? |
| 05:16.03 | Cope | 3c509 and an ether express. |
| 05:16.22 | Cope | The 3c509 doesn't work... don't even get a dhcpak |
| 05:16.42 | Cope | Swapped to etherexpress, got an ip address then. |
| 05:17.17 | Cope | But can't see how to set nameservers... and when I try to connect to ftp site the address doesn't resolve. |
| 05:18.09 | murble | not just an /etc/resolv.conf job? |
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| 05:20.49 | Cope | That's what I'm going to do next. |
| 05:21.41 | Cope | Although there's no vi... maybe ed? |
| 05:23.33 | murble | echo ? |
| 05:24.14 | murble | echo nameserver 158.152.1.65 >/etc/resolv.conf ? |
| 05:24.59 | Cope | echo search demon.co.uk? |
| 05:25.15 | murble | you don't need that. |
| 05:26.21 | Cope | kk |
| 05:42.20 | murble | well ipcomp is working |
| 05:42.39 | murble | it will break horirbly soon |
| 05:59.20 | murble | cool, my bug is very repeatable, so much so that i might be able to fix it... |
| 06:38.12 | new2unix | ping |
| 06:38.21 | murble | pong |
| 06:38.40 | new2unix | what are you doing up do late/early? |
| 06:40.28 | murble | you first :) |
| 06:46.28 | new2unix | murble: catching up on weeks worth of Security Focus, LWN, The register and bits of slashdot, while having a timeout from watching some downlaods :) |
| 06:46.37 | new2unix | now your turn |
| 06:51.01 | murble | trying to understand XFRM stuff, since i'm having ipsec issues |
| 06:57.45 | new2unix | didnt know what XFRM was so i did a quick google. what i got back didnt look like friendly reading. Back to my movie. seeya |
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| 07:30.00 | Cope | Morning... |
| 07:37.56 | murble | morning urggle shivver |
| 07:39.56 | Cope | Well, I got 2 hours of sleep. |
| 09:15.37 | JD | hmmm 192.com is scary |
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| 10:15.50 | murble | JD: what have you found? |
| 10:24.00 | JD | murble: do you not think you shoul dhave more than 2 hours sleep? |
| 10:24.31 | murble | JD: yeah, but i was on a roll, succeeding and fixing stuff, very nice feeling. |
| 10:24.36 | JD | :) |
| 10:24.49 | JD | murble: oh just doing some stalking |
| 10:25.06 | murble | guessed by the 192.com reference :) |
| 10:25.39 | murble | you can opt out of being listed on there for free. |
| 10:26.14 | JD | given a name, a town and a vague notion of their fathers job, I now have their address, phone number and names of their neighbours |
| 10:26.50 | JD | I also know their parents names |
| 10:26.52 | murble | urgle. |
| 10:27.39 | JD | unfortuneately 192.com want 85GBP to look at the 2003 electoral roll |
| 10:28.08 | murble | can't you get the whole lot on CD from them? |
| 10:28.19 | JD | no idea |
| 10:28.37 | JD | but I could just drove to the town council and get a copy of the electorol roll |
| 10:28.49 | JD | well district council |
| 10:29.20 | JD | I shouldn;t be on the 192.com electoral roll list any more |
| 10:29.32 | JD | and not on the telephone directory |
| 10:29.57 | JD | given that we are ex-directory and we have ticked that nice box that says don't sell our names |
| 10:30.25 | murble | JD: they still hand out the information to anyone they feel like :( |
| 10:30.38 | murble | they seem to think the DPA doesn't apply to them |
| 10:30.41 | JD | yes, but they shouldn't sell it to 192.com |
| 10:31.07 | JD | murble: who are you talking about? |
| 10:31.29 | murble | generalising about the electoral roll people. |
| 10:31.51 | JD | oh okay |
| 10:54.26 | Leeds | hmm... so apparently they (might) have caught Saddam |
| 10:54.30 | Leeds | morning Cope :-) |
| 10:54.39 | Cope | Hi Leeds. |
| 10:54.47 | Cope | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:54.53 | Cope | (william) |
| 10:54.54 | Leeds | same to you! |
| 10:54.58 | Leeds | ah... |
| 10:55.27 | Leeds | so he types as well as murble then? :-) |
| 10:55.31 | Cope | lol |
| 11:01.41 | Cope | Is it Sunday? |
| 11:01.43 | Leeds | Cope: so I need to come visit you today |
| 11:01.49 | Leeds | yes, it's Sunday :-) |
| 11:02.10 | Cope | Leeds: oh... you have a computer? |
| 11:02.18 | Leeds | yes! in the boot of my car... |
| 11:02.33 | Leeds | it's a good job I didn't try to deliver it on the way home - it was 3am :-) |
| 11:02.43 | Cope | I was awake... |
| 11:03.24 | Cope | Leeds: Would you have a solaris x86 disk too? ;o) |
| 11:03.26 | Leeds | hmm, okay :-) |
| 11:03.33 | Leeds | ah, no, not so much... |
| 11:04.17 | Leeds | if you'd have asked a couple of days ago... |
| 11:04.24 | Cope | bah |
| 11:04.32 | Leeds | I don't actually have CDs hanging around - and I don't work with Solaris 9 anyway |
| 11:04.50 | JD | Cope: I've gont some |
| 11:04.59 | JD | I could attempt to lend you it |
| 11:05.18 | Cope | JD: That would be most satisfactory. |
| 11:05.53 | JD | Cope: not sure when I will be in Londn next though |
| 11:05.55 | Leeds | in other circumstances, that would be a scary thing to say |
| 11:06.11 | Cope | JD: *nods* |
| 11:06.44 | JD | Leeds: we know that works. we have proof |
| 11:08.15 | Leeds | ugh |
| 11:10.32 | JD | volume or frequecy? |
| 11:10.43 | JD | bels or hertz |
| 11:11.02 | Cope | Yeah I was wondering if tone was frquency... |
| 11:11.22 | JD | they are the only ones I can think of for sound |
| 11:12.03 | Cope | Yeah, I was just wondering what the diferencve between tone and pitch is. |
| 11:13.16 | Cope | Hmm - decision time. William is asleep in my arm... if I put him in his crib he might wake up.... but I could get some stuff done. |
| 11:13.55 | Cope | Leeds: What time suits you to come over? |
| 11:17.12 | Cope | Yay - william in bed and staying asleep! |
| 11:20.36 | JD | won't last |
| 11:20.59 | Cope | This I've learned already... |
| 11:21.11 | Cope | At least I get to eat something! |
| 11:21.22 | JD | did no one warn you before you started? |
| 11:21.27 | JD | hmmm food |
| 11:21.44 | Cope | Of course... but a warning is never the same as experience! |
| 11:22.01 | Cope | I've slept for about 4 hours since... um... I dunno, I don't know. |
| 11:23.16 | Cope | But when he's quiet and cuddly its all worth while; when he screams and cries it grates somewhat... |
| 11:23.22 | Cope | Still, we'll get there. |
| 11:28.18 | Leeds | drinks soup? |
| 11:29.22 | Leeds | I have to say that Shoot-up Hill always sounds like a bad drugs neighbourhood to me... |
| 11:31.04 | Leeds | Cope: so where exactly are you? I'm looking at a map (streetmap.co.uk) and I know the Kwik-Fit on the main road... |
| 11:31.33 | Leeds | the answer is... soon... |
| 11:32.33 | Cope | ... |
| 11:32.58 | Cope | After the quickfit there is a set of traffic lights, about 100m away |
| 11:33.07 | Cope | Turn left at those lights: This is Mill Lane |
| 11:33.21 | Leeds | 'after' as in 'south-west'? |
| 11:33.35 | Cope | yep |
| 11:33.47 | Leeds | I see it |
| 11:35.13 | Cope | JD: 13 minutes. |
| 11:35.24 | JD | what> |
| 11:35.42 | JD | sprog woke up? |
| 11:37.29 | Leeds | took one out of the smoke detector yesterday to replace the dead one in my scales... should *probably* put a new one in the smoke detector... |
| 11:38.00 | Cope | JD: yep :o) |
| 11:38.09 | Leeds | Cope: so say I'm on Mill Lane... you are? |
| 11:38.26 | Cope | Also on Mill Lane. |
| 11:40.08 | JD | Leeds: I think the smoke alarm is more important than your scales |
| 11:41.50 | Leeds | yeah, I'll get a new battery when I go out to do errands/deliveries now :-) |
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| 11:47.38 | mozrat | Hey Cope... how was your first night with William home? |
| 11:50.56 | Cope | mozrat: Awful! Things can only improve. |
| 11:54.22 | Cope | Why oh why are baby accesories so ridiculously hard to put together? |
| 11:54.46 | mozrat | Oh dear -- get much sleep? |
| 11:54.56 | Cope | You would have thought a carrying sling would not be beyond the aptitude of an educated man, would you? |
| 11:54.58 | murble | Cope: maybe they are easy when you are wide awake etc? |
| 11:55.14 | Cope | mozrat: 2 x 2 hours. |
| 11:56.03 | mozrat | The first 2-3 weeks are the worst... *thats 2 to 3 not 23!! |
| 11:57.49 | mozrat | has william fed well now? |
| 11:58.23 | Cope | mozrat: no, he ate for 12 mins at 10pm and has had a 3 minute feed at 7.30 since then. |
| 11:59.40 | mozrat | at least he`s getting something he wont starve then |
| 12:00.25 | mozrat | Cope: This does vaguely resemble the Truman Show -- are you keeping IRC logs to show William in later life |
| 12:00.55 | mozrat | Try a sack of spuds or something heavier |
| 12:01.22 | wethrin | Blah. |
| 12:01.24 | Cope | This teddy is the same size as William, but not as heavy.. weight will be fine, just wanted to check length. |
| 12:01.32 | Cope | Hi wethrin. |
| 12:01.56 | wethrin | Hi |
| 12:02.27 | Cope | Need to find some warm clothes that fit him first, though. |
| 12:02.44 | mozrat | [Offtopic] http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3317429.stm |
| 12:02.51 | mozrat | heh heh |
| 12:03.05 | Cope | mozrat: whereas the life of william is on topic? |
| 12:03.28 | mozrat | does the blue snow suit fit him yet?? |
| 12:04.07 | mozrat | i`ve got afew more clothes including a small one the same if you want it |
| 12:04.16 | wethrin | mozrat: Capture of Hussein |
| 12:04.17 | wethrin | ? |
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| 12:14.02 | Xiaoqi | morning all |
| 12:18.46 | Cope | Hello |
| 12:18.54 | wethrin | Right. Time for me to go. See y'all tomorrow |
| 12:20.27 | Cope | Bye! |
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| 12:56.00 | Clyphox | Re |
| 12:56.49 | Cope | Hi Clyphox@ |
| 12:57.02 | Clyphox | Hi Cope, Jenson |
| 13:01.09 | Cope | new2unix: computer just arrived! |
| 13:01.24 | new2unix | Cope: :) |
| 13:01.25 | Clyphox | new2unix: have installed netbsd? |
| 13:01.45 | Clyphox | the partitioning shite is so damn confusing initially |
| 13:01.54 | Clyphox | openbsd is easier imo |
| 13:02.06 | Cope | I can't get the network configured :o( |
| 13:02.19 | new2unix | Clyphox just decided to give this laptop a new lease of life with Open but i'm not impressed. |
| 13:03.25 | Clyphox | I wouldn't use openbsd for anything past a server |
| 13:04.22 | new2unix | Clyphox: difficult installs can be educational :) |
| 13:04.33 | Clyphox | its just the partitioning |
| 13:04.42 | Clyphox | took me awhile to fully inderstand it |
| 13:04.52 | Clyphox | I so much prefer linux's /dev/hda |
| 13:04.56 | Clyphox | and simple fdisk |
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| 13:13.30 | new2unix | Clyphox: at least NetBSD's partioning scheme, while like Linux' is intuitive. Open just leaves you in the lurch. Yuck |
| 13:13.50 | murble | new2unix: hmm they are about the same, just bsd disklabels |
| 13:14.06 | murble | the last time i installed netbsd was on a sun3/60 so.. |
| 13:15.09 | Clyphox | my sparc was SO easy to install onto. heh |
| 13:15.58 | new2unix | murble: Its not just the partitioning. I've spent all of 4hours getting it the way i like and i havent installed X yet. 4 hours with Net or Debian is more than enough for a properly configured laptop :) |
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| 13:45.49 | Leeds | new2unix: morning :-) |
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| 13:57.43 | new2unix | Leeds: afternoon sir. hah |
| 14:00.20 | Leeds | so Saddam's beard, huh? |
| 14:01.18 | Cope | Leeds: Pong |
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| 15:52.19 | bred2 | ello |
| 15:52.25 | bredroll | anyone in? |
| 15:54.11 | murble | no, all asleep i'm afraid. |
| 15:54.46 | bredroll | heh |
| 15:55.00 | bredroll | have you noticed the new list seems to be broke? |
| 15:55.14 | murble | no. |
| 15:55.32 | bredroll | hmm, |
| 15:56.13 | bredroll | got any messages from it since the changeover? |
| 15:56.54 | bredroll | hmm |
| 15:56.55 | bredroll | bbl |
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| 16:00.19 | Leeds | I've had a few messages through... |
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| 16:23.07 | Clyphox | Moo |
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| 16:45.16 | new2unix | leeds: ping |
| 16:54.50 | irvined | pong |
| 16:54.57 | irvined | erk, im not leeds. |
| 16:56.17 | JD | but are you in Leeds? |
| 16:56.29 | JD | that is what everyone wants to know |
| 16:56.37 | JD | (including Leeds I would imagine) |
| 16:56.41 | Xiaoqi | lol |
| 16:58.06 | JD | is anyone having cddb issues? |
| 16:59.19 | irvined | no im in my house. |
| 17:01.25 | JD | hmmm |
| 17:01.55 | JD | hmmm working now |
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| 19:54.17 | irvined_ | anybody else unable to get www.konqueror.org |
| 19:55.48 | Clyphox | not I |
| 19:56.22 | Marios_ | I can't either |
| 19:56.38 | Marios_ | DNS problem |
| 19:57.38 | highbury | me neither |
| 19:57.45 | Clyphox | DNS |
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| 20:33.00 | Clypho1 | Moo |
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| 21:00.14 | tarn | I found a pic of what £450pcm might get in our area i`ve mailed it to you .I don`t know if it`s anything like where you live??? |
| 21:17.30 | Jenson | Bloody idiot boyfriend has left his mobile and his keys here |
| 21:21.07 | Leeds | I have already had at least 2 pieces of "Saddam captured" spam |
| 21:21.54 | Jenson | Leeds: lol already |
| 21:43.48 | irvined_ | gah, zaurus, gah. |
| 21:43.48 | irvined_ | broke. |
| 21:43.52 | irvined_ | ahh, fixed. lol, thought i'd really broken it. |
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| 22:37.30 | Cope | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:37.46 | stephen | evening Cope |
| 22:38.00 | Cope | Hi stephen |
| 22:41.56 | Leeds | Cope: hey |
| 22:42.20 | Cope | Hi Leeds! |
| 22:42.31 | Leeds | how's things? |
| 22:42.46 | Cope | Sophie and William are staying in hospital tonight and probably for a few nights. |
| 22:42.53 | Leeds | hmm... |
| 22:43.08 | Cope | William was very dehydrated and just below treatment level for jaundice. |
| 22:43.39 | Leeds | oops |
| 22:43.59 | Cope | Well, he wasn't eating. |
| 22:44.06 | Leeds | sure |
| 23:08.33 | Cope | lona |
| 23:13.29 | Leeds | lona? |
| 23:19.29 | Cope | Hel lo na srat |
| 23:19.47 | nasrat | hi Cope |
| 23:20.13 | nasrat | ok - yourself? |
| 23:20.29 | Cope | Not bad, very tired, so I'll probably go to bed in a bit. |
| 23:22.21 | Leeds | heh |
| 23:23.13 | Leeds | that's heh to lona=hello nasrat... |
| 23:24.22 | Cope | htle would be night leeds |
| 23:24.37 | Cope | Sorry - in an odd mood;. |
| 23:24.43 | Cope | Understable, I guess. |
| 23:25.57 | Leeds | sure... |
| 23:26.21 | Leeds | can't be bothered to type in English :-) |
| 23:28.17 | Leeds | grunts? grins? |
| 23:28.21 | Leeds | go to bed... sleep |
| 23:28.48 | Cope | sleep is your frined. |
| 23:29.04 | Leeds | absolutely |
| 23:29.17 | Cope | Thanks for helping :o) |
| 23:29.52 | Leeds | g'night |
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| 23:44.50 | JD | hi all |
| 23:48.49 | Tarragon | Evening |