| 00:25.25 | wethrin | Evening. |
| 00:25.29 | wethrin | Dead Ringers++ |
| 00:25.51 | Leeds | :-( |
| 00:26.00 | wethrin | Sorry :-/ |
| 00:26.15 | Leeds | but it was good? |
| 00:26.15 | new2unix | Slack install ++ |
| 00:26.23 | wethrin | Leeds: Yes :) |
| 00:26.32 | wethrin | Come next week! |
| 00:27.05 | Leeds | yes! |
| 00:27.23 | new2unix | Leeds: we were given a red carpet treatment on our way out :) |
| 00:27.37 | SpudULike | Do they manage to keep the pace going in the TV recordings? |
| 00:28.16 | new2unix | ok. perhaps the redcarpet was for the celebs who arrived earlier for the "Sports Persona of the year" :) |
| 00:28.22 | new2unix | Hi SpudULike. |
| 00:28.34 | wethrin | SpudULike: It's okay - not as fast-paced as the radio. But I think they packed more in. |
| 00:28.41 | Leeds | new2unix: ? |
| 00:28.45 | SpudULike | Kewl. |
| 00:28.50 | Leeds | oh, that :-) |
| 00:29.19 | wethrin | So.....I guess no chance of racking $server tomorrow ;-) |
| 00:30.01 | Leeds | possibly |
| 00:30.07 | Leeds | I need to call Mailbox... |
| 00:30.22 | Leeds | I'm still not feeling great - may stay home tomorrow |
| 00:32.25 | wethrin | Okay. Well, I ought to be at work at 9am tomorrow, so don't bother too much about it :) |
| 00:44.29 | wethrin | Bedtime! G'night all |
| 00:44.34 | Leeds | night |
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| 00:59.55 | canard-noir | Hi, are Formi, Bill or Stéphane around ? |
| 01:00.49 | new2unix | canard-noir: highly unlikely but i could be wrong about murble. |
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| 01:01.36 | SpudULike | Hah, speak of the devil ...... |
| 01:01.51 | formi | obviously |
| 01:02.15 | formi | i need to get something done before going to bed and i need a bit of help |
| 01:02.54 | formi | i need to delete a few files everytime i log off a remote machine, the shell is bash |
| 01:02.55 | new2unix | only the geeks are awake. the nerds are all asleep by now. but ask anyway :) |
| 01:03.19 | stephen | formi: stick it in ~/.bash_logout ? |
| 01:03.27 | new2unix | yes |
| 01:04.50 | new2unix | When a login shell exits,bash reads and executes commands from the |
| 01:04.50 | new2unix | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:05.12 | formi | x index by Group index by Distribution index by Vendor index by creation date index by Name Mirrors Help Search |
| 01:05.12 | formi | bash-2.04-1.0.4 RPM for i386 |
| 01:05.12 | formi | From EnGarde / 1.0.1 / i386 |
| 01:05.12 | formi | Name: bash Distribution: Unknown |
| 01:05.12 | formi | Version: 2.04 Vendor: Guardian Digital, Inc. |
| 01:05.14 | formi | Release: 1.0.4 Build date: Wed Apr 11 17:13:28 2001 |
| 01:05.16 | formi | Group: System Environment/Shells Build host: magneto.devel.guardiandigital.com |
| 01:05.18 | formi | Size: 612913 Source RPM: bash-2.04-1.0.4.src.rpm |
| 01:05.20 | formi | Packager: Guardian Digital, Inc. <http://www.guardiandigital.com> |
| 01:05.22 | formi | Summary: The GNU Bourne Again shell (bash) version 2.04. |
| 01:05.28 | formi | The GNU Bourne Again shell (Bash) is a shell or command language |
| 01:05.30 | formi | interpreter that is compatible with the Bourne shell (sh). Bash |
| 01:05.32 | formi | incorporates useful features from the Korn shell (ksh) and the C shell |
| 01:05.34 | formi | (csh). Most sh scripts can be run by bash without modification. This |
| 01:05.36 | formi | package (bash) contains bash version 2.04, which improves POSIX |
| 01:05.38 | formi | compliance over previous versions. However, many old shell scripts |
| 01:05.40 | formi | will depend upon the behavior of bash 1.14, which is included in the |
| 01:05.42 | formi | bash1 package. Bash is the default shell for Red Hat Linux. It is |
| 01:05.44 | formi | popular and powerful, and you'll probably end up using it. |
| 01:05.48 | formi | Documentation for bash version 2.04 is contained in the bash-doc |
| 01:05.50 | formi | package. |
| 01:05.54 | formi | Provides |
| 01:06.00 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:06.02 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:06.08 | formi | Requires |
| 01:06.12 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:06.14 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:06.16 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:06.18 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:06.22 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:06.24 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:06.30 | formi | Copyright |
| 01:06.34 | formi | GPL |
| 01:06.38 | formi | Signatures |
| 01:06.42 | formi | MD5: aca9e3c230a4f223d348d135a599c235 |
| 01:06.46 | formi | GPG |
| 01:06.50 | formi | Changelog |
| 01:06.54 | formi | * Sat Dec 02 2000 Ryan W. Maple <ryan@guardiandigital.com> |
| 01:06.56 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:07.00 | formi | * Sat Nov 25 2000 Dave Wreski <dave@guardiandigital.com> |
| 01:07.02 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:07.04 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:07.08 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:07.10 | formi | * Wed Sep 13 2000 Pete O'Hara <pete@guardiandigital.com> |
| 01:07.12 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:07.14 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:07.16 | formi | * Tue Aug 08 2000 Bill Nottingham <notting@redhat.com> |
| 01:07.18 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:07.20 | formi | . |
| 01:07.22 | formi | , |
| 01:07.24 | formi | sorry for the flooding |
| 01:07.26 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:07.32 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:07.34 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:07.36 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:07.38 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:07.42 | formi | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:07.44 | formi | that is what i added to .bashrc but it doesnt seem to work |
| 01:09.31 | stephen | probably easier to create .bash_profile and add the commands there |
| 01:10.09 | formi | bash_logout works |
| 01:10.25 | stephen | yer, sorry, I meant bash_logout, not bash_profile |
| 01:10.30 | formi | it's just that i read mail with pine in a machine i got no root access |
| 01:10.58 | formi | and for somereason it leaves .pine-dedug files |
| 01:11.02 | formi | around |
| 01:11.28 | highbury | write a wrapper for pine :-) |
| 01:12.28 | highbury | else from bash(1) " When a login shell exits, bash reads and executes commands from the file ~/.bash_logout, if it exists." |
| 01:13.31 | formi | well i found the script half pasted before and thought it would work |
| 01:14.17 | formi | anyway, working now |
| 01:14.33 | formi | what were the bad tongues saying about the evil man? |
| 01:18.38 | highbury | that you were not all bad |
| 01:19.24 | formi | well, few people get to see my very good side |
| 01:19.44 | formi | and the real nasty one |
| 01:19.59 | highbury | is the mailing list working now? or is it just quiet? |
| 01:20.16 | formi | i've seen 2-3 new mails |
| 01:20.36 | formi | about that one man consultancy bloke |
| 01:20.58 | formi | i did watch the program when it was screened |
| 01:21.32 | formi | he's quite mad, conmuting to London, from far up north |
| 01:27.09 | formi | im off to bed, busy day comming |
| 01:27.15 | formi | good night |
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| 05:25.49 | new2unix | moin all |
| 07:31.20 | new2unix | moin all, again |
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| 09:07.19 | wethrin | Mornnnn |
| 09:12.49 | zachary | moin wethrin |
| 09:14.10 | zachary | wethrin: For a router/firewall, what is typical partition size for OpenBSD? |
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| 09:16.20 | wethrin | It's however you want to set it up :-) |
| 09:16.29 | mozrat | Morning all! |
| 09:16.39 | wethrin | But, really, give about 150MB to /, and anything else to /var |
| 09:16.43 | wethrin | Morning Simon |
| 09:20.58 | zachary | wethrin: Was talking to someone, and they wanted to customize a software firewall for total space of 128MB. |
| 09:24.28 | wethrin | Yes, that can be done |
| 09:24.43 | wethrin | Only install the base system + etc |
| 09:24.50 | wethrin | Then delete some files :) |
| 09:39.50 | zachary | wethrin: thanks |
| 09:40.08 | zachary | my son is still eating every two hours. Third feeding for the day already! |
| 09:41.03 | wethrin | Have you started him on the cajun food yet? ;-) |
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| 09:41.59 | zachary | no, wife would kill me. Our pediatrician might get the leftovers if their is anything left of me. :) |
| 09:42.29 | wethrin | Don't want to start the spicy food too early in life? |
| 09:44.32 | irvined | Morning all. |
| 09:44.38 | wethrin | Groetjes |
| 09:44.42 | irvined | Somebody mention curry? |
| 09:44.49 | wethrin | No. Cajun. |
| 09:44.54 | wethrin | But curry is good. |
| 09:45.41 | irvined | Hmm cajun. |
| 09:49.54 | wethrin | Yes. Zach said he'd cook for the next Gllugmeet ;-) |
| 09:50.53 | zachary | Yea! I'll cook. It is called get a menu from the bar! |
| 09:51.41 | wethrin | Hm. I ought to look at reserving a few tables in Pillars for the 3rd January |
| 09:51.41 | irvined | heh. |
| 09:52.00 | wethrin | WHY NOT!? |
| 09:52.04 | irvined | im off to the states until the 15th. |
| 09:52.05 | zachary | wethrin: That would be a good idea! |
| 09:52.10 | wethrin | irvined: When? |
| 09:52.20 | irvined | leave on the 30th, and get back on the 14th/15th sometime. |
| 09:52.22 | zachary | irvined: Why do you want to do that |
| 09:52.30 | irvined | snowboarding :) |
| 09:52.32 | wethrin | So you might be around for the next emergency-gllug meet |
| 09:52.41 | irvined | yes, emergency gllug meet? |
| 09:52.48 | wethrin | Yes. When we need alcohol. |
| 09:52.56 | zachary | irvined: Ok, good excuse. |
| 09:53.01 | wethrin | Might have it in Chimes, which serves nice cider, mead, wines and PIEs |
| 09:53.22 | irvined | mmmm mead, cider, mmmmm |
| 09:53.35 | zachary | I need a beer. Spent most of the weekend X-mas shopping. |
| 09:53.38 | irvined | yeah an emergency gllug meet might be a good idea. |
| 09:53.53 | irvined | zachary, kick any elves? |
| 09:53.54 | zachary | Nothing like hanging out in Ann Summers for two hours. |
| 09:53.57 | irvined | thats the next best thing to beer when your xmas shopping. |
| 09:54.00 | irvined | zachary, :D |
| 09:54.08 | irvined | oh so not the kind of elves you would really kick then |
| 09:54.42 | irvined | My ex worked in anne summers, she used to do the parties and stuff. |
| 09:54.50 | irvined | She was scary. |
| 09:54.57 | zachary | I found out where Santa's "Nauty Toy Shop" is. |
| 09:55.19 | zachary | Did she get a discount? |
| 09:58.22 | irvined | Lol. |
| 09:58.35 | irvined | Yeah, not sure what it was. |
| 10:05.55 | irvined | I've got my zaurus all set up and sorted now. |
| 10:06.07 | irvined | opie, xmms, mplayer, quake and a few sync tools. |
| 10:06.18 | wethrin | Chimes doesn't server beer, apparently |
| 10:06.32 | irvined | Anybody know any good mexican eateries? |
| 10:06.40 | irvined | I've not had good burritos in ages. |
| 10:06.49 | wethrin | There's a pub close to where I live that has quite nice food |
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| 10:14.28 | wethrin | Arrr |
| 10:23.19 | ar | grrr |
| 10:23.41 | Leeds | zzz |
| 10:25.35 | wethrin | Hmm. Is it okay to ignore emails that are nigh on incomprehensible? (and a month old) |
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| 10:29.41 | irvined | wethrin, yeah, especially if they come from middle management |
| 10:29.54 | wethrin | They don't |
| 10:34.43 | irvined | /dev/null, definatly. |
| 10:34.52 | wethrin | Yes |
| 10:39.45 | zachary | wethrin: Was the email from me? :) |
| 10:40.07 | wethrin | No. Want me to copy/paste in privmsg? |
| 10:40.29 | zachary | Sure I need some entertainment. |
| 11:05.14 | mozrat | Ha.. just got a bunch of grapes from our restaurant and found a big juicy (dead) spider in them!! |
| 11:05.24 | wethrin | Hum |
| 11:05.26 | wethrin | Yum |
| 11:05.29 | wethrin | Did it taste nice? |
| 11:05.53 | mozrat | managed to find it after the first couple of grapes |
| 11:06.29 | mozrat | missing a few legs though (retch) |
| 11:07.19 | wethrin | Heh |
| 11:07.36 | mozrat | extra protein I guess |
| 11:07.41 | wethrin | Yes |
| 11:07.43 | wethrin | All good. |
| 11:08.10 | mozrat | It actually looks rather exotic |
| 11:08.17 | mozrat | I wonder where it came from? |
| 11:08.25 | wethrin | $country_of_origin |
| 11:08.39 | mozrat | unknown |
| 11:08.43 | wethrin | Heh |
| 11:08.59 | wethrin | Take it to the natural history museum to ID it |
| 11:09.09 | mozrat | :-) |
| 11:18.23 | mozrat | ibot seen cope |
| 11:18.24 | | cope <~sanelson@wibbleworld.demon.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 11h 49m 7s ago, saying: 'Thanks for helping :o)'. |
| 11:18.40 | mozrat | I wonder how GLLUGs youngest member is getting on? |
| 11:21.59 | wethrin | ibot is wrong |
| 11:22.01 | | i haven't a clue, wethrin |
| 11:23.17 | wethrin | ibot seen Cope |
| 11:23.18 | | cope <~sanelson@wibbleworld.demon.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 11h 54m 1s ago, saying: 'Thanks for helping :o)'. |
| 11:23.23 | wethrin | NO NO NO! |
| 11:23.33 | mozrat | ibot pull your finger out |
| 11:23.37 | | no idea, mozrat |
| 11:23.37 | wethrin | Unless ibot doesn't log actions |
| 11:23.41 | wethrin | ibot seen wethrin |
| 11:23.41 | | wethrin is currently on #gllug (2d 15h 16m 47s). Has said a total of 258 messages. Is idling for 0s |
| 11:24.11 | Leeds | last news was Sophie and William in hospital for a few days... he'd not been eating and was dehydrated |
| 11:24.29 | Leeds | or... that's the last news I heard |
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| 11:24.40 | mozrat | Oh dear... i was chatting to him last night |
| 11:24.50 | Clyphox | who who? |
| 11:24.58 | wethrin | cope |
| 11:25.29 | Clyphox | whats up? |
| 11:25.45 | Clyphox | is he OK? hes not a terrorist is he?!? |
| 11:25.58 | Leeds | William isn't particularly well, and Sophie is very exhausted |
| 11:26.16 | mozrat | Whats that... copes a terrorist? |
| 11:26.29 | Clyphox | ohh shit.. they :-( |
| 11:26.53 | Clyphox | Leeds: in what way isn't William well? |
| 11:27.30 | Leeds | Clyphox: not eating well, dehydrated, turned a bit yellow |
| 11:27.32 | mozrat | Myabe they came home a little early. |
| 11:27.48 | mozrat | s/myabe.maybe |
| 11:28.39 | Leeds | yeah, maybe |
| 11:29.24 | Clyphox | :-( back to the hostpital now? |
| 11:29.52 | mozrat | As I remember the temptation is to get home and get into the routine, but people always underestimate how tough it is in the first few days/weeks |
| 11:31.52 | mozrat | Well -- all the best to the little fella |
| 11:32.12 | Clyphox | indeed |
| 11:33.13 | wethrin | Yeh |
| 11:34.55 | Leeds | right |
| 11:35.15 | mozrat | wethrin, so if ibots wrong when was the last time you saw cope? |
| 11:35.26 | wethrin | Scroll up :) |
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| 11:35.32 | wethrin | * Cope goes again. |
| 11:35.32 | wethrin | -!- Cope [~sanelson@wibbleworld.demon.co.uk] has quit [Client Quit] |
| 11:35.34 | wethrin | * Cope goes again. |
| 11:35.34 | wethrin | -!- Cope [~sanelson@wibbleworld.demon.co.uk] has quit [Client Quit] |
| 11:35.37 | jason_ukfsn | hello all |
| 11:35.40 | wethrin | Hello |
| 11:36.34 | mozrat | hi jason_ukfsn |
| 11:39.29 | Clyphox | Hoi |
| 11:44.59 | jason_ukfsn | would someone do me a favour and post something to the main list. I am a little worried that the only posts I've seen since movingit have been my own! |
| 11:45.16 | wethrin | Okay - I need to, actually |
| 11:45.40 | Leeds | jason_ukfsn: not seen the posts about the (possibly, possibly not) outlying Scottish Islands' Linux consultancy? |
| 11:46.13 | jason_ukfsn | Leeds: I just realised that I did see it and hit D as that thread was a bit boring and I was clearing spam 1st thing. |
| 11:47.16 | jason_ukfsn | I had expected a few flippant posts from people just testing that I hadn't fubar'd the thing. I find their lack of scepticism disturbing. |
| 11:53.48 | Leeds | "don't care", "didn't notice", or "trust you" - pick one of the above :-) |
| 11:54.24 | Leeds | until, of course, the "I've not seen any posts in a while, is the list broken?" flood starts coming through |
| 11:55.58 | Clyphox | Brian May on T4 atm.. |
| 11:56.06 | Clyphox | shit vocals tho |
| 12:04.06 | wethrin | It just goes to show that Linux is Dying. |
| 12:04.09 | wethrin | </troll> |
| 12:17.01 | Leeds | yeah, but BSD is already dead... |
| 12:17.21 | Clyphox | indeed |
| 12:20.00 | wethrin | Yes. |
| 12:25.42 | Leeds | ha ha - System V will rule all! |
| 12:26.07 | Clyphox | Knight Rider owns :-) |
| 12:29.52 | Leeds | true |
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| 12:33.24 | Clyphox | wb |
| 12:33.56 | wethrin | Hmm. Thanks |
| 12:35.51 | wethrin | Crap network. |
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| 12:39.48 | Cope | Hello all. |
| 12:39.51 | wethrin | hello |
| 12:40.04 | wethrin | Good. |
| 12:40.10 | Clyphox | Hoi |
| 12:40.12 | wethrin | You also appear to be around Manchester |
| 12:40.29 | Cope | ah... that's because I'm ssh'd to one of my boxes in stoke |
| 12:40.48 | wethrin | Ahha. |
| 12:41.05 | Cope | I don't have an irc client installed on *this* box yet. |
| 12:41.20 | wethrin | cd /usr/ports/irc/irssi && make install |
| 12:41.54 | Clyphox | pkg_add irssi |
| 12:42.06 | Cope | Hmm - how do I get another console up? |
| 12:42.21 | Clyphox | CTRL+ALT+FX |
| 12:42.34 | Clyphox | X being a numba |
| 12:43.04 | Cope | Yep |
| 12:43.13 | wethrin | Clyphox: Doesn't that require you to have the package in the current directory? |
| 12:43.25 | Leeds | hey Cope - new box? |
| 12:43.36 | Cope | Leeds: Yeah, new2unix's box |
| 12:43.48 | Leeds | ah, so it *does* work... :-) |
| 12:43.48 | Cope | In good time too as my cpu exploded this morning |
| 12:43.54 | Leeds | oops |
| 12:44.31 | Cope | leeds: It didn't work; it went bang and smoke came out when I switched it on... but since my machine had died I managed to swap bits around till it worked. |
| 12:44.46 | wethrin | Eek. Magic smoke is not good. |
| 12:45.46 | Cope | anyway, I don't seem to have /usr/ports, and pkg_add doesn't work either; do I need to do the netbsd equivalent of emerge world or something first? |
| 12:45.55 | wethrin | Install ports. |
| 12:46.29 | wethrin | Sorry. pkgsrc in NetBSD terminology |
| 12:47.09 | Cope | Hmm... how does one install things though... get the source manually, or from the ports tree? |
| 12:47.09 | Leeds | hmm... pkgsrc |
| 12:47.23 | jason_ukfsn | of those among folks who have ADSL, what routers/modems are you using? |
| 12:47.38 | wethrin | cd /usr/ports/irc/irssi && make install |
| 12:47.49 | wethrin | jason_ukfsn: I've got an ActionTec wireless DSL router |
| 12:47.52 | mozrat | jason_ukfsn, creative adsl router |
| 12:48.00 | wethrin | Ethernet (wired + wireless) and USB |
| 12:48.08 | Cope | jason_ukfsn: SMC ADSL barricade |
| 12:48.18 | jason_ukfsn | can you tell me why you decided on the router you bought? |
| 12:48.31 | zachary | Alcatel USB Speedtouch + Smoothwall 2.0 |
| 12:49.01 | Cope | jason_ukfsn - I'd heard of smc and I got 20% discount on TCR |
| 12:49.08 | jason_ukfsn | I'm thinking of reselling routers/modems and I'm trying to determine which ones to offer. ZyXel have offered me reseller prices however their kit is quite expensive. |
| 12:49.10 | wethrin | It was the cheapest that had wireless |
| 12:49.17 | Leeds | jason_ukfsn: got mine from advice on gllug list |
| 12:50.15 | zachary | jason_ukfsn: Came with the service. BT. If I had the choice I would have baught something else. |
| 13:00.08 | wethrin | Kill syslogd ;-) |
| 13:01.46 | Cope | It's dead. |
| 13:01.49 | Cope | now :o) |
| 13:02.13 | wethrin | (you do realise that killing syslog isn't the best idea) |
| 13:02.26 | Cope | I see the disadvantages |
| 13:04.52 | Cope | What were the alternatives? |
| 13:06.00 | Leeds | fix dhclient? |
| 13:06.04 | Leeds | ignore the messages? |
| 13:06.07 | Leeds | filter the messages? |
| 13:06.44 | wethrin | Generally syslog will print important messages to any root user logged in |
| 13:07.26 | murble | kill the syslog! |
| 13:07.41 | wethrin | Yeah. You don't want people seeing what you're doing :) |
| 13:12.12 | Leeds | logicide is painless |
| 13:12.17 | Cope | Hmm. I'm not logged in as root. |
| 13:14.11 | Leeds | sudo |
| 13:30.13 | Leeds | hmm... mailbox appears to have vanished |
| 13:32.40 | murble | well i can see as8401 |
| 13:33.55 | Leeds | can you see mailbox.net.uk? |
| 13:34.16 | murble | yeah |
| 13:34.31 | murble | must just be bad netweather in your parts. |
| 13:35.27 | Leeds | hmm... can't get there from home or work |
| 13:35.35 | wethrin | Leeds: This isn't the sort of thing that inspires confidence for me :) |
| 13:35.56 | wethrin | Hm. That would be why my OxIRC session has gone |
| 13:36.50 | Leeds | doesn't happen often... |
| 13:37.24 | murble | wethrin: you are using an ircserver in mailbox? |
| 13:37.29 | wethrin | Trillian |
| 13:39.03 | wethrin | (Zaphod's machine) |
| 13:41.28 | Leeds | and... we're back |
| 13:41.36 | wethrin | w00t. Yes. |
| 13:41.39 | murble | welcome back! |
| 13:41.43 | wethrin | Wasn't too bad an outage |
| 13:42.03 | Leeds | ah, it's a DOS, apparently |
| 13:42.23 | wethrin | They've installed ancient Microsoft OSes? |
| 13:42.31 | Leeds | yes... |
| 13:42.36 | murble | their UK bbc peering was fine.. |
| 13:45.24 | wethrin | Leeds: Feeling any better today? |
| 13:46.53 | wethrin | Hm. dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/dev/null - should that take up 100% CPU usage? |
| 13:48.07 | Leeds | wethrin: yeah... still not 100% - need to go to work now |
| 13:48.13 | wethrin | Okay. |
| 13:49.08 | wethrin | You'll be okay for Thursday, won't you? :) |
| 13:49.16 | Leeds | yes, come what may :-) |
| 13:49.41 | wethrin | Excellent. |
| 13:49.54 | wethrin | 7.30 at Leicester Square okay for you? |
| 13:51.43 | Leeds | yes |
| 13:51.54 | wethrin | Excellent! |
| 13:51.57 | Leeds | hmm... that's meeting time or start time? gonna be a late one either way :-) |
| 13:52.11 | wethrin | Meeting time. |
| 13:52.19 | wethrin | Fillum start time is billed as 7.30 |
| 13:52.22 | wethrin | 7.40 |
| 13:52.47 | Leeds | hmm... so I'd better aim for 7:15 then... |
| 13:53.18 | wethrin | Yeah - I'll probably be there very early anyway, so might be in a pub. |
| 13:54.09 | Leeds | 1815 train should be okay |
| 13:54.21 | Leeds | 1830 maybe |
| 13:54.55 | wethrin | Northern Line from Euston to Leicester Square. Should work. |
| 13:55.08 | wethrin | It's going to finish after 11. |
| 13:55.31 | Leeds | sure |
| 14:10.52 | Leeds | wethrin: if you're around in a couple of hours, bug me then |
| 14:13.31 | jason_ukfsn | do you guys want me to post my review on Wednesday to the channel and the list with plenty of spoilers? ;) |
| 14:14.10 | wethrin | When on Wednesday are you going? |
| 14:14.57 | jason_ukfsn | 11:20 |
| 14:14.59 | jason_ukfsn | am |
| 14:15.07 | wethrin | Which cinema? |
| 14:15.16 | jason_ukfsn | UCG Staples Corner (Cricklewood) |
| 14:15.38 | wethrin | Ah. We're going to Odeon Leicester Square. |
| 14:15.40 | jason_ukfsn | Just booked my tickets online |
| 14:16.28 | jason_ukfsn | Has anyone here implemented amavisd? |
| 14:17.17 | wethrin | What's wrong with LS, other than the price? |
| 14:18.28 | jason_ukfsn | The area - it's too crowded and too expensive. |
| 14:18.35 | jason_ukfsn | How much were your tickets? |
| 14:18.43 | wethrin | £10.50 |
| 14:19.22 | jason_ukfsn | I paid half that. Money is very significant to me as I don't have any. |
| 14:19.39 | wethrin | I don't have much. But for LOTR, I thought it might be worth it |
| 14:20.45 | jason_ukfsn | I expect it would be too late for me to have booked tickets at any Leicester Sq cinema anyway. |
| 14:21.26 | wethrin | I booked around 1.45 on the first booking-day. It was almost full. |
| 14:22.17 | jason_ukfsn | very much as I expected. I was unable to book then as I had no money at all. |
| 14:28.35 | wethrin | Company expense? :) |
| 14:31.24 | jason_ukfsn | LOL wethrin! I suspect if LOTR appeared in the UKFSN accounts people might notice |
| 14:32.20 | wethrin | Creative Accounting(TM) |
| 14:32.45 | wethrin | Aren't companies allowed to spend a certain amount on employee events? |
| 14:42.44 | jason_ukfsn | yes however I did promise that all the profits would finance free software projects. I don't think me seeing LOTR:ROTK is a free software project - even if I bring a laptop with me. |
| 14:43.02 | wethrin | Was any rendering done on Linux systems? |
| 14:48.40 | jason_ukfsn | I don't know however I think I remember that they were using Linux render farms. It's difficult to keep track of who has announced that they are using Linux though. |
| 14:49.42 | wethrin | So by going, you'd still be supporting Linux :) |
| 15:00.26 | jason_ukfsn | LOL |
| 15:01.15 | murble | jason_ukfsn: so what about the ukpost revenue, isn't that for LOTR:ROTK? |
| 15:01.36 | murble | or is it earmarked for buying drinks at GLLUG? |
| 15:03.47 | wethrin | That's a good support for Free Software :) |
| 15:06.08 | jason_ukfsn | murble: the whole point is that UKPOST's income isn't enough. It doesn't even cover my salary yet and I am paid minimum wage and even then only for half of the time I actually work |
| 15:07.19 | jason_ukfsn | were it not for the occassional bit of consultancy I'd have a difficult time covering the mortgage. <shrug> |
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| 15:08.29 | wethrin | wb Leeds |
| 15:08.36 | Leeds | hi |
| 15:08.39 | murble | jason_ukfsn: well clearly you should do some moe aggressive invocing! :) |
| 15:09.11 | murble | jason_ukfsn: I'd happily donate a cricket bat, if it would help. |
| 15:13.58 | jason_ukfsn | I know murble. I have my todo this week with colo accounts highlighted. |
| 15:21.41 | irvined | anybody know if there is a good publicly available password list, i want to start auditing our users external passwords. |
| 15:21.54 | wethrin | /usr/lib/dict |
| 15:22.18 | wethrin | (or similar) |
| 15:22.25 | wethrin | /usr/share/dict |
| 15:25.48 | irvined | i'll give that a bash to begin with |
| 15:26.01 | wethrin | Look at craclib |
| 15:26.03 | wethrin | *cracklib |
| 15:26.07 | irvined | i guess i can use that and some regexes to build it up a bit. |
| 15:26.57 | nasrat | irvined: wordlist.sf.net |
| 15:27.21 | nasrat | and john the ripper |
| 15:29.12 | irvined | nasrat, thanks. |
| 15:36.25 | mozrat | Someone has sent me a support request with the following sentence: |
| 15:36.42 | mozrat | "Please let me know the contact details for the ftp site for BAT as requested telephonically" |
| 15:36.47 | mozrat | as in over the telephone |
| 15:36.58 | mozrat | What would be the correct term for sending him the answer by email |
| 15:37.10 | mozrat | someone here suggest telegraphically |
| 15:38.25 | jason_ukfsn | maniacally |
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| 16:44.24 | Leeds | fair enough |
| 16:44.49 | wethrin | Have you just started working, then? |
| 16:45.01 | Leeds | no |
| 16:45.26 | Leeds | I was working at home, came in for my 2:30 meeting, worked for another 90 minutes or so... |
| 16:47.22 | wethrin | Well, I'm not working tomorrow |
| 17:05.05 | Leeds | 1U, right? |
| 17:05.12 | wethrin | Yes. |
| 17:20.52 | Leeds | bye |
| 17:23.54 | Leeds | ah, so Tim O'Reilly is giving the opening talk at FOSDEM |
| 17:24.42 | murble | Leeds: the one that will be missed by the people who had a good time in the pub on friday |
| 17:24.45 | murble | ? |
| 17:33.02 | Leeds | yes |
| 17:35.40 | murble | I wonder if we will end up in the Falstaff again. |
| 17:39.41 | Leeds | probably |
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| 18:18.47 | JD | hi |
| 18:37.17 | murble | ho |
| 18:38.45 | murble | is anyone 20C3 ing? |
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| 19:07.32 | wethrin | Boo! |
| 19:08.46 | murble | Baa |
| 19:09.45 | resuDaed | apart from modprobing lp and parport (successfully), what else should I need to do to echo > /dev/lp0 |
| 19:09.46 | resuDaed | ? |
| 19:11.19 | murble | parport_pc |
| 19:11.47 | richardc_ | so... |
| 19:12.11 | richardc_ | is the only point in trying Saddam to work out whether to kill him or not? |
| 19:12.23 | murble | or if they've got the right person. |
| 19:12.31 | murble | richardc_: they've screwed up already on the kill him thing. |
| 19:12.37 | murble | since they got rid of the death penality |
| 19:12.47 | murble | the only way to get killed in Iraq now is... |
| 19:13.01 | richardc_ | I wouldn't bet on that holding them back |
| 19:13.12 | resuDaed | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:13.29 | murble | sounds like the module didn't get loaded. |
| 19:14.17 | resuDaed | murble : I'd gathered that much, but do you have any ideas why it wouldn't? |
| 19:14.28 | Leeds | resuDaed: do you need to configure the hardware - io/irq |
| 19:14.47 | resuDaed | good point -- shall check the bios |
| 19:15.27 | resuDaed | dual PPro with SCSI onboard . |
| 19:15.28 | resuDaed | .. |
| 19:15.30 | resuDaed | ... |
| 19:16.02 | resuDaed | LPT1: disabled :-) |
| 19:16.17 | Leeds | duh |
| 19:16.45 | resuDaed | hey, I didn;t set this thing up |
| 19:16.57 | Leeds | still duh :-) |
| 19:17.02 | resuDaed | I just run it -- never needed to put a printer on it before |
| 19:17.56 | Leeds | hmm... I think my TiVo has reset again... I *really* need to deal with the hard drive |
| 19:20.33 | wethrin | It's okay - I'm not ill |
| 19:20.46 | wethrin | It's the other way round I should be more worried about :) |
| 19:21.19 | Leeds | what, me *taking* your germs? |
| 19:21.31 | wethrin | Bah :-P |
| 19:22.17 | wethrin | Anyway, I take it I won't be going into London tomorrow? |
| 19:24.11 | Leeds | who knows? the future is cloudy and indistict - only the Gods can say for sure |
| 19:24.35 | wethrin | I have no reason, other than to go to Fulham, so :) |
| 19:24.59 | Leeds | I've e-mailed them, but just before they closed... |
| 19:25.12 | wethrin | Ah, fairenoughski. Thanks muchly :) |
| 19:25.14 | Leeds | I have some trouble communicating with people who work normal UK working hours... |
| 19:25.26 | wethrin | Heh. That's what IRC is for. |
| 19:25.40 | Leeds | not so good for business though |
| 19:26.08 | wethrin | IRC meetings would often be much better than normal meetings :) |
| 19:26.25 | Leeds | it would come down to typing speed rather than voice volume |
| 19:26.28 | wethrin | Anyway, I believe it's band practice time for me. |
| 19:26.40 | wethrin | See you in > 2 hours. |
| 19:26.44 | Leeds | seeya |
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| 19:27.43 | wethrin | Well, if they email back tomorrow morning, I should be able to go into London tomorrow. Otherwise Wednesday :) |
| 19:27.46 | wethrin | Right. I'm orff. |
| 19:29.57 | murble | Leeds: are you saying managers would be at a disavantage? |
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| 20:10.41 | resuDaed | does Win98 support encrypted passwords for SMB? |
| 20:31.29 | JD | er I think it does |
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| 20:37.49 | Clyphox | Re |
| 20:37.59 | cozmonort | hi Clyphox |
| 20:38.03 | cozmonort | hi room |
| 20:38.51 | Clyphox | re cozmonort |
| 20:38.58 | Jenson | heya Clyphox |
| 20:39.00 | Jenson | heya cozmonort |
| 20:39.02 | cozmonort | how r u today ? |
| 20:39.11 | cozmonort | Jenson: hi babes |
| 20:39.22 | Jenson | cozmonort: just get him to pick tyhe camera up and smile at ya |
| 20:39.59 | cozmonort | whats the address ? |
| 20:41.21 | Jenson | ibot seen Cope |
| 20:41.22 | | cope <~cope@public1-stok3-3-cust220.manc.broadband.ntl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 7h 29m 5s ago, saying: 'Hmm. I'm not logged in as root.'. |
| 20:41.41 | Jenson | thats not cope |
| 20:41.56 | mozrat | It is... he was ssh'd into another box |
| 20:42.14 | Jenson | ah |
| 20:42.15 | Jenson | i see |
| 20:45.57 | Jenson | bah according to the tescos site there is no jobs here or in Enfield Town or in Ponder End |
| 20:46.03 | Jenson | onders |
| 20:46.05 | Jenson | oh ffs |
| 20:46.07 | Jenson | Ponders |
| 20:46.18 | cozmonort | arg ,grr |
| 20:46.45 | Jenson | and no vacancies at all in the IT sector |
| 20:46.55 | cozmonort | if u wont i can pop in tomorrow anyway, to check |
| 20:47.24 | Jenson | yeh, well they are all up on the wall in our loacal one, but the siter sayyus there aint any |
| 20:47.58 | cozmonort | so it might be worth looking :) |
| 20:48.56 | Clyphox | there're aren't I checked last week |
| 20:50.30 | Jenson | there are like 6 here i think |
| 20:50.55 | Jenson | but my parents dont seem to believe me that i'm moving in with cozmonort so i guess its time i found a job down there |
| 20:52.26 | Jenson | there is one on CWjobs, but not of something ive actually heard of loil |
| 20:52.48 | cozmonort | hehe lol |
| 20:53.38 | Jenson | Leeds: make that damn fish do something interesting lol |
| 20:53.43 | Jenson | erm |
| 20:53.46 | Jenson | Clyphox: even |
| 20:53.54 | Jenson | bloody missing letters again |
| 20:55.07 | cozmonort | thats interesting :P |
| 20:55.20 | Jenson | Clyphox: http://www.jobsearch.co.uk/show_job.cgi?j=2229745&c=7&o=219&e=year&e=&k=Enfield%20Town&h=&g=1 |
| 20:56.00 | Jenson | oooh a woman |
| 20:56.33 | cozmonort | yey back to fishy |
| 20:57.59 | Jenson | lol :P |
| 20:58.07 | cozmonort | saved that :P |
| 20:58.20 | Jenson | dmn i didnt think of that |
| 20:59.40 | Jenson | hiya JD |
| 21:01.31 | Jenson | lol Clyphox is showing us round his room with his webcam |
| 21:01.44 | cozmonort | Clyphox: dude ur room is a mess |
| 21:01.54 | JD | oh right |
| 21:01.57 | JD | that would make sense |
| 21:02.08 | Jenson | cozmonort: i told you tthat ;po; |
| 21:02.10 | Jenson | lol |
| 21:05.50 | cozmonort | Jenson: had fun |
| 21:06.07 | Jenson | there is actually a decent job going in your office |
| 21:06.48 | cozmonort | i know, could be interesting working in the same office |
| 21:07.56 | Jenson | bah, but i need a fucking job |
| 21:08.22 | cozmonort | i know, u could apply there if u want, its up to u |
| 21:08.25 | JD | Jenson: hmmmm |
| 21:08.31 | Clyphox | cozmonort : thats the point |
| 21:08.57 | Clyphox | I didn't know you guys were watching.. pervs ;-P |
| 21:09.34 | Jenson | JD: been there, done that, cant now, ive got a boyfriend |
| 21:09.43 | JD | Jenson: excatly |
| 21:10.01 | cozmonort | :) |
| 21:10.02 | JD | Jenson: you are a former-feline :) |
| 21:10.22 | Jenson | cozmonort: if i worked in your office we'd both lose our jobs hon |
| 21:10.46 | cozmonort | Jenson: probably but it would be fun doing so :P |
| 21:11.06 | Jenson | erm, yehm but we'd have a mortgage to pay |
| 21:11.33 | cozmonort | yeah true |
| 21:12.32 | JD | I think I might have missed something |
| 21:12.57 | Jenson | nah JD not yet |
| 21:16.11 | cozmonort | Jenson: i think u could get that job u posted earlier really easily |
| 21:16.26 | Jenson | that wasnt for me that was for david lol |
| 21:16.43 | cozmonort | ahh |
| 21:16.46 | cozmonort | oopsies |
| 21:17.03 | Jenson | and you think i could get everything real easy |
| 21:17.10 | Jenson | which is why you have a job and i dont |
| 21:17.14 | Jenson | and i dont have a cat either |
| 21:17.49 | cozmonort | Jenson: ahh, poor thing, will be trying to get cat (again) real soon |
| 21:18.52 | Clyphox | cats are easy to get |
| 21:19.05 | Jenson | yeh |
| 21:19.09 | Jenson | but my dad doesnt want one |
| 21:19.15 | Jenson | and cozmonort mum doesnt want one |
| 21:19.26 | Jenson | Clyphox: can i have Rami? :P |
| 21:20.51 | Clyphox | not my cat to give away |
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