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| 00:18.23 | Cope | Boo! |
| 00:18.34 | Leeds | ah! |
| 00:18.36 | Cope | ibot Hello |
| 00:18.39 | | Howdy Bub |
| 00:18.44 | Cope | Hi Leeds. |
| 00:19.01 | Cope | man pages all working fine, and w3m viewing images using seejpeg. |
| 00:19.30 | Leeds | cool |
| 00:19.36 | Cope | That's me more or less set up now. |
| 00:19.48 | Cope | Oh, and cdrecord works fine |
| 00:21.11 | Leeds | cool :-) |
| 00:21.20 | Cope | irssi in 9.1 is broken... doesn't compile against perl; needed to compile latest irssi. |
| 00:21.58 | Cope | leeds: You went to a library in the middle of the night? Did you break in? |
| 00:22.11 | Leeds | Cope: hence the positive comments above about Safari |
| 00:22.21 | Cope | Ah - I didn't see those. |
| 00:22.24 | Leeds | Safari being O'Reilly's (and others) virtual library... |
| 00:22.42 | Cope | You own it? its online? |
| 00:22.49 | Marios_ | Leeds << I have the javascript bible...do you want it? |
| 00:23.02 | Leeds | Cope: it's online |
| 00:23.08 | Cope | You have to pay? |
| 00:23.09 | Leeds | Marios_: e-book? |
| 00:23.12 | Leeds | Cope: yes... |
| 00:23.18 | Cope | How much? |
| 00:23.35 | Marios_ | yeah |
| 00:23.40 | Leeds | basic account is just over 10 pounds per month... |
| 00:23.48 | Cope | not bad |
| 00:23.57 | Leeds | which gives you 10 slots - where most books fit in one slot |
| 00:24.03 | Marios_ | you can download them online for free :) |
| 00:24.22 | Leeds | the main limitation is that you have to keep any books you 'take out' for a month, so you can't just change every day |
| 00:24.38 | Cope | Leeds: Still, a very good idea, nontheless. |
| 00:24.49 | Leeds | there is a free 14-day trial if you want to play... |
| 00:25.00 | Leeds | I don't know if you need a card for that |
| 00:25.03 | Marios_ | guys try irc.nullus.net |
| 00:25.07 | Cope | Probably. |
| 00:25.17 | Cope | Marios_ - why, what's there? |
| 00:25.21 | Marios_ | Gbs of e-books |
| 00:25.26 | Leeds | ooh |
| 00:25.30 | Marios_ | I have on my hard disk about 5Gbs |
| 00:25.55 | Leeds | I've got quite a few - mainly from Usenet |
| 00:26.09 | Marios_ | Cope << join #bw-tech |
| 00:26.14 | Cope | ok |
| 00:26.26 | Marios_ | it is all about computer e-books |
| 00:26.45 | Marios_ | there are bots there...and just do @find <keywords> |
| 00:26.50 | highbury | and where to download copies ? |
| 00:27.00 | Leeds | highbury: download over IRC |
| 00:27.15 | highbury | search on kazaa or equivalent for O'reilly :-/ |
| 00:27.48 | Marios_ | from that irc server you can get much more than Kazaa |
| 00:28.29 | Marios_ | true |
| 00:28.48 | Cope | Marios_ - ok, if it finds something, how do I download it? |
| 00:29.08 | Marios_ | these bots will msg you in private |
| 00:29.33 | Cope | I saw that. |
| 00:29.33 | Marios_ | it is like !bwfsrv1 TheLinuxBook.pdf |
| 00:29.44 | Marios_ | then copy the !bwfsrv1 TheLinuxBook.pdf in the main channel |
| 00:29.51 | Cope | ah right |
| 00:29.57 | Marios_ | and your request will be in queue |
| 00:30.19 | Marios_ | so make sure you set auto-accept DCC |
| 00:30.32 | Marios_ | cause it might come in hours |
| 00:30.48 | Cope | Marios_ - highly cool. |
| 00:30.53 | Marios_ | hehehehe |
| 00:31.06 | Marios_ | give preferences to pdf files |
| 00:31.30 | Cope | hmm... pdf on the framebuffer; interesting idea. |
| 00:31.41 | Marios_ | there are many chm files...which I don't know how to view them on Linux |
| 00:31.48 | Leeds | ~/.xchat2/downloads, sanely enough |
| 00:32.27 | Leeds | yeah - that's one big problem with IRC downloads... the queues |
| 00:33.46 | Marios_ | Leeds << how to do auto accept DCCs in xchat? |
| 00:34.12 | Leeds | dunno |
| 00:34.33 | Marios_ | I couldn't find it...so I still use mIRC for downloading e-books |
| 00:34.39 | Leeds | in fact, I don't thin you can |
| 00:34.53 | Leeds | um... since when does mIRC run on *nix? unless wine - ugh! |
| 00:36.11 | Marios_ | wine and sometimes on a windows machine at work |
| 00:36.20 | new2unix | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:36.46 | Leeds | morning new2unix :-) |
| 00:36.48 | new2unix | where did that one character gap come from? |
| 00:36.51 | Cope | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:36.55 | Leeds | I don't see "auto-accept" in there |
| 00:37.09 | Marios_ | mew2unix << I did that but it didn't work |
| 00:37.17 | Cope | Hi new2unix! |
| 00:37.22 | new2unix | Hi all. |
| 00:37.32 | Cope | Your machine is happily singing away, with 256M ram shoved up its bum. |
| 00:37.44 | new2unix | woke at 10am today. work starts at 9:30 |
| 00:38.08 | new2unix | Cope: what was wrong with the floppy drive? |
| 00:38.19 | Cope | new2unix: dunno, I just took it out. |
| 00:38.29 | Cope | The machine went bang when I switched it on. |
| 00:38.44 | Cope | And didn't work until I stripped it down and cleaned it. |
| 00:38.47 | new2unix | hope it didnt scare lil Will |
| 00:38.52 | Leeds | new2unix: oops |
| 00:38.53 | Cope | Scared me! |
| 00:39.06 | Cope | Something blew up - I thing one of the hdd |
| 00:39.15 | Cope | Characteristic exploded capacitor smell |
| 00:40.15 | new2unix | Leeds: yeah. my dodgy sleep pattern finally caught up on me. went to bed at 10pm yesterday and woke 12hrs later. :) |
| 00:40.30 | Leeds | argh... been there... |
| 00:41.37 | Cope | I should sleep. |
| 00:41.51 | new2unix | Cope: i didnt have time to shred any data from the drives. did you find anything interesting? |
| 00:41.53 | Leeds | shouldn't we all |
| 00:41.59 | Cope | William comes home tomorrow, we hope, so taht's the end of sleep. |
| 00:42.09 | Cope | new2unix: I didn't look; just did fdisk |
| 00:42.30 | Cope | Played with netbsd for a bit; liked it; then back to slack |
| 00:43.02 | new2unix | cope: hah. slack with X? is it a headless box? |
| 00:43.16 | Cope | slack without X |
| 00:43.39 | Cope | No, your box is my main box now!! By other one blew up! |
| 00:44.07 | Cope | I'll hit the fairs to get bits soon though. |
| 00:44.55 | Cope | brb |
| 00:55.08 | Leeds | wahay! |
| 00:56.23 | new2unix | you alright there? |
| 00:56.50 | Leeds | yes |
| 00:57.03 | Leeds | I think I'm partway to getting my Javascript to work |
| 00:58.00 | Leeds | which considering this evening (morning) is the first time I ever wrote any JavaScript... |
| 00:58.51 | new2unix | oh. i'm doing something far more interesting here; installing on a near-dead laptop (headless lappy) |
| 00:59.24 | new2unix | *installing Windows |
| 01:01.48 | new2unix | i feel if i can get windows to run on this laptop i could nearly get enough money from it to buy myself a mobo + 60GB hdd :) |
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| 01:03.52 | Cope | Hello all |
| 01:07.20 | new2unix | aha. yes, it did get abit noisy at times. :) |
| 01:08.19 | Cope | Its almost silent now! |
| 01:09.42 | Cope | Right, box set up as I want, bed time. |
| 01:16.13 | Leeds | night |
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| 02:19.54 | Clyphox | [yawn] |
| 02:29.54 | Leeds | foo |
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| 03:05.12 | Leeds | bedtime |
| 04:04.14 | Clyphox | hi |
| 04:04.30 | Marios_ | what's up? |
| 04:12.26 | new2unix | gosh. R you guys still up? :) |
| 04:12.34 | Marios_ | yes ! |
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| 04:36.08 | gregj | we are allways up |
| 04:36.15 | Marios_ | :) |
| 04:36.22 | gregj | even always |
| 04:36.23 | gregj | :] |
| 05:36.45 | new2unix | ping |
| 05:37.17 | Marios_ | pong |
| 05:37.35 | new2unix | hi Marios_, was just checking who was up :) |
| 05:37.42 | Marios_ | hehehhhe |
| 05:37.48 | Marios_ | I am designing a website... |
| 05:38.00 | Marios_ | so I will be online for couple more hours |
| 05:38.53 | new2unix | yeah? got a link? i can give you another view point if you like. |
| 05:39.40 | Marios_ | I haven't uploaded yet |
| 05:39.57 | Marios_ | I will definitely ask your oppinion by tomorrow |
| 05:40.10 | new2unix | Oh. built from scratch or from existing templates? |
| 05:40.25 | Marios_ | I got a template but I modified a lot |
| 05:40.37 | Marios_ | it is a simple webpage for my Church |
| 05:40.45 | new2unix | cool. |
| 05:40.57 | Marios_ | :) |
| 05:41.25 | Marios_ | what are you up to so late? |
| 05:41.27 | new2unix | webpage building an be fun wheh youve got content to fill it with. :) |
| 05:41.34 | Marios_ | :) |
| 05:42.04 | new2unix | was doing an install on a headless laptop. hah |
| 05:42.27 | Marios_ | I see |
| 05:43.33 | new2unix | did a slack install. then trashed it then did a NetBSD install. trashed that and then did a Knoppix install. didnt like that either so i finally put XP. But its stopped responding now to pings so i might just trash it again and put something else :) |
| 05:44.03 | Marios_ | oh God... |
| 05:44.09 | Marios_ | what is wrong with it ? |
| 05:44.10 | new2unix | wot happened? |
| 05:45.18 | new2unix | Oh nothing. It just overheats when runnning Windows. It seems OK in *nix.But the ribbon connecrtinf the screen to the base is broken so the screen isnt working. |
| 05:45.30 | new2unix | i have to connect an external monitor. |
| 05:45.48 | Marios_ | I see |
| 05:46.03 | new2unix | Want to sell it so i need to put XP so that i can get a non geek to buy it off me. |
| 05:46.19 | Marios_ | hhehehe smart thinking |
| 06:03.03 | new2unix | moin all |
| 06:23.25 | gregj | wot zdies parzalsta |
| 06:23.25 | gregj | :] |
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| 10:12.38 | highbury | morning |
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| 10:28.11 | Cope|Bed | morning |
| 10:29.12 | Leeds | morning |
| 10:36.08 | Cope | What is the best 'real' ie not online bookshop? |
| 10:36.38 | Leeds | what for? |
| 10:37.00 | Leeds | sorry, slightly silly question :-) |
| 10:37.06 | Leeds | I meant - for what sort of books? |
| 10:37.10 | Cope | for o'reilly and other computery books. |
| 10:39.10 | Leeds | http://www.holbornbooks.co.uk/ appears to be what used to be the PC bookshop which is meant to be (or have been) the place to buy computer books |
| 10:39.31 | Leeds | and yes, it's a real bookshop - that's just their website :-) |
| 10:41.18 | Cope | ah, luiji, sicilian books |
| 10:41.31 | Leeds | luiji! |
| 10:41.43 | Leeds | ah, Luigi :-) |
| 10:42.00 | Cope | My, brother, see, he's very careless with matches. |
| 10:42.19 | Leeds | we don't want to... upset him... right? |
| 10:42.40 | Cope | right, and we'd hate that nice bookshop of yours to meet with an accident, |
| 10:43.15 | Leeds | so much paper... |
| 10:44.32 | Cope | So, anyway, these books I was thinking of buying... |
| 10:44.42 | Cope | Maybe we could come to some arrangement. |
| 10:44.54 | Cope | :o |
| 10:45.44 | Leeds | heh |
| 10:51.54 | Cope | Leeds: The consultant paediatrician yesterday was...... |
| 10:51.59 | Cope | M Kahn! |
| 10:52.27 | Leeds | hah ha |
| 10:52.50 | Cope | Sophie wasn't sure why F found this amusing. |
| 10:54.42 | Leeds | it's a great example of a joke which has run far far beyond its allotted time :-) |
| 10:55.52 | Cope | Indeed. |
| 10:56.39 | Cope | Tea first, maybe food. |
| 10:57.26 | Leeds | very little sleep... |
| 10:57.37 | Leeds | but! I finished the Return of the King last night :-) |
| 10:58.44 | Cope | Ooh! |
| 10:59.30 | Leeds | just in time to go see the abridged version tomorrow :-) |
| 11:02.03 | Cope | Rar! There is some milk, therefore I can have some cereal! |
| 11:03.21 | Leeds | milky-milky? |
| 11:03.39 | Leeds | sorry |
| 11:04.47 | Cope | :o) |
| 11:05.43 | Cope | I'm going to go and look in holborn books today, I think! |
| 11:06.04 | Cope | I have 50 pounds +/- 10% to spend there for my birthday. |
| 11:06.29 | Leeds | cool :-) |
| 11:06.42 | Cope | hmm... maybe should by a huge hdd and download a lot; but then I really like paper books. |
| 11:08.53 | Leeds | well... 50+ a bit would get you an 80Gb drive... |
| 11:09.20 | Leeds | including VAT and shipping |
| 11:10.01 | Leeds | ?55.76 to be precise |
| 11:10.21 | Cope | That's a lot of space. |
| 11:11.50 | Leeds | yes |
| 11:12.44 | Leeds | I bought (as a special offer) a 120Gb drive a couple of weeks ago... for 60+shipping (+VAT on shipping) |
| 11:12.50 | Cope | maybe I should persever with ebooks; I just find them tiring to read and not very interactive; ie I can't write on them. |
| 11:12.59 | Cope | leeds: nice one |
| 11:13.18 | Leeds | I don't write on books anyway... |
| 11:14.31 | Cope | Also, I tend to get a bit ethical on computer books; if I spent time and effort writing a book, I'd be pretty pissed off if people were just downloading it and I didn't see anything for my effort. |
| 11:15.06 | Leeds | entirely fair enough |
| 11:15.25 | Leeds | I have some downloaded techy books... but I tend to buy or borrow them instead |
| 11:15.42 | Leeds | and I do like Safari - 50+10% would cover 5 months of that :-) |
| 11:17.06 | Cope | true! |
| 11:18.18 | Leeds | but, unless you download the text (and they ask you not to) after you cancel you lose access to the books... |
| 11:18.28 | Cope | bah |
| 11:20.27 | highbury | cope you have a student card? |
| 11:20.47 | highbury | you can get 10% discount at PC Books |
| 11:20.58 | Cope | highbury: No... maybe Hui does. |
| 11:21.08 | Cope | s/Hui/Sophie |
| 11:21.41 | highbury | also its worthwile checking Foyles out, though IIK haven't been there for a few years |
| 11:22.03 | Cope | I had a look at the lastest edition of the Running Linuz books; seems a lots different from mine, even though its only one edition newer. |
| 11:22.22 | Leeds | running Linus? |
| 11:22.28 | Cope | Maybe not good use of resources though. |
| 11:22.33 | Cope | leeds: matt walsh |
| 11:22.43 | Cope | welsh? |
| 11:22.45 | Leeds | yeah, I know :-) |
| 11:22.46 | Leeds | walsh |
| 11:23.20 | Cope | Where is foyles? Charing Cross Road? |
| 11:27.48 | wethrin | Yes |
| 11:28.44 | Cope | Oooh! A parcek from China! |
| 11:30.11 | Leeds | bone? |
| 11:30.46 | Cope | Chinese baby clothes. |
| 11:30.59 | wethrin | Clothes from a Chinese baby? |
| 11:31.00 | Leeds | cool... or rather... warm, I hope |
| 11:31.17 | wethrin | # Warm in the summer and cool in the winter |
| 11:31.33 | Cope | Pictures of Sophie's mum... |
| 11:32.02 | Leeds | warm pictures? |
| 11:32.03 | Cope | More baby things. |
| 11:32.10 | Cope | she lives in a very warm place. |
| 11:32.28 | Cope | Think Hawai - its the chinese equivalen. |
| 11:33.57 | wethrin | Island offshore? |
| 11:34.00 | wethrin | Taiwan? ;-) |
| 11:34.23 | Leeds | hah... people including snippets of formal government/legal documents in spam to try to get through filters... |
| 11:35.22 | wethrin | Heh. |
| 11:35.39 | wethrin | Can I assume that Mailbox are still being incompetent muppets? :) |
| 11:35.53 | Leeds | yes |
| 11:35.57 | wethrin | Okay :) |
| 11:36.29 | wethrin | BTW, might there be any chance of connecting to a serial port on one of the other machines, so it'd be possible to get a serial console up? |
| 11:36.58 | Leeds | um... probably not at this point |
| 11:37.14 | wethrin | Hokay, then. |
| 11:37.39 | Cope | wethrin: Hainan |
| 11:37.45 | wethrin | Breakfast time |
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| 12:40.29 | Xiaoqi | hihi |
| 12:41.38 | ar | hi |
| 13:13.45 | Cope | hihihi |
| 13:15.55 | Xiaoqi | :) |
| 13:32.06 | wethrin | It's quiet here |
| 13:32.13 | mozrat | very... |
| 13:43.16 | mozrat | ibot poke wethrin |
| 13:43.17 | | mozrat: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 13:43.33 | mozrat | ibot not today no! |
| 13:43.34 | | mozrat: i don't know |
| 13:43.37 | mozrat | Oh ok |
| 13:43.56 | wethrin | ibot is useless |
| 13:43.58 | | wethrin: are you using Windows? |
| 13:44.52 | wethrin | Hmm. I can't remember the last time I really had to use Windows. Actually...6th December. |
| 13:47.31 | Leeds | last week at work, but strictly in an interopability sense |
| 13:51.15 | wethrin | Go on....make excuses :) |
| 14:34.51 | Clyphox | re |
| 14:35.14 | Clyphox | mozrat: sounds fun |
| 14:35.29 | wethrin | FORMAT C: |
| 14:35.32 | wethrin | All done! |
| 14:35.54 | Clyphox | format c: /q |
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| 14:44.21 | mozrat | Clyphox: Funny you should say that. Exchange doesn't appear to want to uninstall correctly so our method is manually deleting folders, registry keys blah |
| 14:46.53 | Clyphox | wow |
| 14:47.10 | Clyphox | what Sollution" are you installing? |
| 14:48.10 | mozrat | Lotus Domino 6.5 on Windows here, and Linux in some other offices (where clustering isn't required) |
| 14:52.40 | JD | bah still no jason |
| 14:53.16 | murble | JD: you could phone him. |
| 14:54.49 | JD | murble: or email him |
| 14:55.18 | highbury | why you need jason? |
| 14:58.54 | mozrat | I can't believe some Debian sites are still down since Nov 21st last month... I know they are being careful but.... |
| 15:00.50 | wethrin | Use Slackware :) |
| 15:01.15 | mozrat | How will that help speed up the return of the debian sites ?? |
| 15:01.34 | highbury | look how long its taken ftp.gnu.org to fix their site!!! |
| 15:01.38 | wethrin | It won't bother you that they're down :) |
| 15:01.40 | Clyphox | speeds up your independance on debian sites |
| 15:08.37 | wethrin | heh |
| 15:09.05 | wethrin | Grrrrr. |
| 15:09.26 | wethrin | I need a serial cable, but don't have any spare, nor enough connectors to solder one up |
| 15:16.04 | JD | highbury: I'm interested by his 1Mbit/s ADSL thing |
| 15:18.29 | wethrin | Can you get ADSL yet? |
| 16:26.44 | highbury | ]d, I use Homechoice.co.uk, they're not the cheapest, and the upload speed isn't as good as others, but the contention rate is very good (3:1) |
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| 16:40.35 | jason_ukfsn | hi all |
| 16:40.42 | wethrin | hi |
| 16:41.18 | jason_ukfsn | the king returned |
| 16:41.30 | Leeds | did he? |
| 16:41.51 | wethrin | He will tomorrow |
| 16:42.00 | Leeds | yes |
| 16:42.04 | jason_ukfsn | well a decendant did. |
| 16:42.36 | wethrin | So. On a scale of 1-10? |
| 16:42.41 | Leeds | and was it splendid? did it have 12 endings? |
| 16:42.43 | jason_ukfsn | I was a bit disappointed tbh |
| 16:42.57 | jason_ukfsn | A large part of the ending was not there. |
| 16:43.04 | wethrin | Yes, we know that :) |
| 16:43.32 | Leeds | no scouring |
| 16:43.44 | jason_ukfsn | turns out Sauron's failure was due to his not having paid the license fees on his MP3 collection |
| 16:44.09 | Leeds | you're thinking Lord of the Disks... similiar, but different |
| 16:44.49 | jason_ukfsn | The battle scenes were amazing though. I enjoyed it until the ending. |
| 16:45.32 | wethrin | Heh. |
| 16:45.43 | jason_ukfsn | I had a problem though. My wife chose the seats and she f*cked that up. Then some bastard sat in front of me and would stop fidgeting in his seat (as in getting up and moving around a lot) :( |
| 16:45.46 | Leeds | go on then... did they win? |
| 16:46.29 | jason_ukfsn | Leeds: I wouldn't want to spoil it for you. |
| 16:46.53 | wethrin | Leeds: Don't read the book before seeing the film. It'll be a spoiler ;-) |
| 16:47.41 | Leeds | I actually finished the book (for the nth time, obviously) early this morning |
| 16:47.58 | wethrin | Film spoiler. |
| 16:48.23 | Leeds | well, the film is pretty much the abridged version |
| 16:48.24 | jason_ukfsn | My wife asked to borrow my copy when the film ended. Now she wants to know how it should have been. |
| 16:48.48 | jason_ukfsn | I will say though that ROTK is closer to the book than the other two were. |
| 16:49.10 | Leeds | jason_ukfsn: except for the missing bits? :-) |
| 16:49.25 | jason_ukfsn | I am tempted to tell the wife to read the Silmarillion as preparation ;) |
| 16:49.29 | Leeds | heh |
| 16:49.39 | wethrin | jason_ukfsn: You are an evil man ;-) |
| 16:50.01 | wethrin | Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales, Hobbit, LOTR |
| 16:50.22 | jason_ukfsn | She asked for Unfinished Tales when I told her what it is. |
| 16:50.25 | Leeds | I never got very far with Unfinished Tales |
| 16:50.33 | jason_ukfsn | We also have a copy of the Father Christmas Letters |
| 16:50.40 | wethrin | I finished it. It's much easier to read than Silmarillion |
| 16:50.41 | Leeds | but I fondly remember reading Silmarillion rather than revising for A-leves |
| 16:50.55 | wethrin | Heh. |
| 16:51.32 | Leeds | which unfortunately left me unable to spell levl |
| 16:51.43 | jason_ukfsn | I found Silmarillion easier - I rather like epic poems though and it was more in that style. |
| 16:52.26 | jason_ukfsn | Leeds: a problem that persists it would seem. |
| 16:54.28 | Leeds | apparently |
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| 17:04.04 | highbury | anybody use realplayer9 ? |
| 17:05.21 | murble | no, i seem to be usign realplayer8 |
| 17:29.24 | highbury | rp9 only seems to support OSS not Alsa sound |
| 17:30.55 | murble | not even esd? |
| 17:30.55 | highbury | yep it supports esd, but I only seem to get my machine to make noises with Alsa |
| 17:31.12 | murble | highbury: you should eb able to get an esd that talks to alsa |
| 17:33.25 | murble | highbury: and what is the problem with OSS? |
| 17:33.38 | murble | you know that alsa provides a backwards compatability interface? |
| 17:41.59 | highbury | what I've just done is switch my SUSE system to use OSS rather than ALSA, now I can use RealONE Player (aka realplayer9) |
| 17:42.43 | Leeds | I've had realone running for over 5 hours today |
| 17:43.18 | murble | I've found that totem can play the bbc realplayer feeds nowdays |
| 17:47.27 | wethrin | Mm. Just upgraded Spamassassin |
| 17:57.50 | Leeds | oh crap |
| 17:57.56 | wethrin | Hm? |
| 17:57.59 | Leeds | too late to call Mailbox :-( |
| 17:58.01 | Leeds | gits |
| 17:58.03 | wethrin | D'oh :) |
| 17:58.17 | murble | Leeds: send them an email with capitals |
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| 17:58.54 | wethrin | ARGH! |
| 17:58.59 | wethrin | Hello? |
| 17:59.03 | stephen | howdi |
| 17:59.14 | wethrin | Ah good. |
| 17:59.22 | wethrin | Something went rather fucked with the network here |
| 17:59.54 | wethrin | Leeds: Any chance you could call them tomorrow? I can go in on Friday with the swerver |
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| 18:07.02 | Leeds | approves? |
| 18:12.37 | wethrin | Would you have any objections if I run IPv6? |
| 18:14.13 | Leeds | I couldn't care less |
| 18:15.10 | wethrin | Excellent |
| 18:56.20 | wethrin | Rar! Just created a Port for Spamassassin 2.61 |
| 19:09.33 | jason_ukfsn | how are you integrating SA? |
| 19:10.30 | JD | ooh a jason_ukfsn |
| 19:11.08 | Leeds | JD: he's been here for 4.5 hours |
| 19:11.14 | JD | jason_ukfsn: your 1Mb ADSL. is that only from certain exchanges? |
| 19:11.19 | JD | Leeds: yes, but I haven't |
| 19:12.16 | JD | bah a silent jason_ukfsn |
| 19:12.20 | JD | :) |
| 19:12.57 | JD | indeed hence the smiley |
| 19:13.03 | jason_ukfsn | JD we can now offer 1Mb either via DataStream enabled exchanges at the lower price or everywhere else at the higher price of £37.50/month |
| 19:13.26 | JD | jason_ukfsn: are newly upgrades exchanges likely to be Datastream enabled? |
| 19:13.46 | jason_ukfsn | Basically the higher priced one is IPStream hence it's available everywhere. It is however a lot more expensive to us. |
| 19:14.15 | jason_ukfsn | JD maybe but probably not. If you tell me the phone number I can check right now. |
| 19:14.24 | murble | jason_ukfsn: a t one? |
| 19:51.22 | Cope | Evening all from Sophie, William and I. |
| 19:51.37 | murble | are you all getting more sleep now? |
| 19:52.15 | Cope | heh - we'll see tonight; S & W have been in hospital until now. |
| 20:03.24 | Cope | past even... |
| 20:04.08 | Leeds | heh |
| 20:04.37 | wethrin | Limmud? |
| 20:04.59 | Leeds | Limmud |
| 20:05.15 | Leeds | www.limmud.org |
| 20:07.31 | Cope | I didn't buy any books, but saw a fair selection. |
| 20:09.12 | Leeds | bookbrowsing is fun... |
| 20:09.17 | Cope | Very! |
| 20:09.48 | Cope | I don't like buying books without recommendation or having used them before. |
| 20:10.32 | Cope | Leeds: Sophie says hello and asks how you are. |
| 20:10.47 | Leeds | hi! I'm well, but tired |
| 20:11.04 | Leeds | been 'working' too hard this week |
| 20:11.12 | wethrin | I tend to browse, and then buy |
| 20:11.21 | Cope | wethrin: 2 stage? |
| 20:11.34 | wethrin | Far too often in 1 stage |
| 20:13.12 | Jenson | im meant to be away |
| 20:13.16 | Jenson | but apparently im here |
| 20:13.20 | Jenson | but gotta go anyway |
| 20:13.32 | Jenson | and Cope hey to Sophie and William |
| 20:15.15 | Leeds | Cope: so they're feeling better? |
| 20:16.49 | Leeds | an appetising discussion of cream cheese/smoked salmon bagels on TV suddenly had full-screen prawns in it :-( |
| 20:20.27 | Cope | leeds: you don't like prawns? |
| 20:20.46 | Cope | Sophie is tired, but William has other ideas.... |
| 20:21.10 | Leeds | not kosher, never tried them, they look disgusting to me |
| 20:21.40 | Cope | So salmon is kosher but prawns aren't? |
| 20:22.52 | Leeds | right |
| 20:22.58 | Leeds | salmon is fish, prawn isn't |
| 20:25.35 | wethrin | What is prawn, then? |
| 20:26.48 | zachary | Crustacian(sp)? |
| 20:27.07 | Cope | So likewise oysters, muscles, etc? |
| 20:27.15 | Cope | Hi zachary |
| 20:27.22 | zachary | evening Cope |
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| 20:30.52 | Xiaoqi | hihi |
| 20:31.38 | stephen | hiho |
| 20:34.16 | Cope | Right. we're going to *try* to get some sleep. |
| 20:34.55 | stephen | Sweet dreams Cope |
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| 20:46.38 | zachary | prawn = Kingdom: Animalia, Phylum: Artropoda, Subphylum: Crustacea, Class: Malacostraca. Because Malacostraca are filter feeders, this is why they are not kosher. Right Leeds? |
| 20:48.56 | zachary | Class: Decapoda |
| 20:49.15 | zachary | s / Order / Class |
| 20:50.53 | zachary | Sorry, slight correction. not filter feeders. Actually scavengers. But still not kosher. |
| 20:55.58 | JD | does anyone have a good url for defining a geek? |
| 20:59.16 | murble | and if you find that, can you find one for geek groupie |
| 20:59.54 | JD | murble: ask Xiaoqi for she is one |
| 20:59.59 | JD | :) |
| 21:00.24 | JD | well I'm not sure that is quite true as she is more of a geek herself |
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| 21:16.22 | Clyphox | hmm |
| 21:17.20 | Xiaoqi | JD i am a geek in training -not quite a linux geek yet, but i am better at other stuff... |
| 21:17.33 | Xiaoqi | i am not a groupie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 21:18.23 | murble | Xiaoqi: but you are very easy to wind up :) |
| 21:19.04 | wethrin | Winding people up can be fun |
| 21:19.31 | Clyphox | I prefer hitting them with busses |
| 21:19.49 | murble | Clyphox: a of an extreme response. |
| 21:20.04 | Clyphox | murble: my brother just got hit by one |
| 21:20.23 | Leeds | yet you're suggesting it? |
| 21:20.47 | murble | Clyphox: eek |
| 21:21.19 | Clyphox | going to police station.. bus driver ran over my brother then and didn't even stop |
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| 21:24.15 | Leeds | well... |
| 21:34.47 | wethrin | Hmm. I appear to be getting more spams with SA 2.61 than with 2.60 |
| 21:36.18 | JD | SpamAssassin version 2.53 |
| 21:36.21 | JD | getting lots |
| 21:36.48 | wethrin | Yeah. Good idea to update :) |
| 21:37.03 | wethrin | I've got my OpenBSD server up to 2.61 now. |
| 21:37.05 | JD | yeah I would, but I don't have root |
| 21:37.27 | wethrin | Meh. There's probably a fwe security vulnerabilities you could exploit. |
| 21:43.21 | JD | http://www.livejournal.com/users/dennyd/230128.html |
| 21:43.39 | wethrin | que? |
| 21:43.45 | highbury | anybody got a copy of the penultimate buffy episode, as a download? |
| 21:43.48 | JD | read |
| 21:46.15 | wethrin | Heh :) |
| 21:47.59 | Leeds | highbury: I've got the last one... not the penultimate |
| 21:48.17 | highbury | dang! we just missed taping it! |
| 21:48.43 | Leeds | can't you find it to download? |
| 21:49.11 | highbury | I'm having problems finding torrent sites, which haven't been taken down |
| 21:49.56 | murble | gnutella for .torrents? |
| 21:54.34 | Leeds | I think I deleted all my downloads (except 7x22) when I'd seen them, and seen them on TV |
| 21:55.12 | highbury | so 7x21 is the one I wan? (that'll help me search) |
| 21:56.51 | Leeds | yes |
| 21:57.12 | Leeds | also written as 7e21 or s07e21 |
| 22:01.28 | Xiaoqi | anyone know if clyphox's bro is ok? |
| 22:01.35 | wethrin | Yes. |
| 22:04.18 | ar | highbury: Direct Connect is a good place to look |
| 22:08.53 | Leeds | heh |
| 22:08.57 | Leeds | dircon? |
| 22:13.22 | ar | err, no :) |
| 22:15.03 | highbury | you ar er a bit too cryptic for us |
| 22:15.05 | Leeds | every time I've looked at DC, it seemed that I needed to 'share' 15Gb to even connect to any hubs |
| 22:16.48 | ar | well, it sort of seperates the wheat from teh chaff so to speak |
| 22:17.12 | highbury | :-) |
| 22:17.17 | Leeds | speaking on behalf of the chaff... that sucks |
| 22:17.21 | ar | lol |
| 22:17.49 | ar | thats the problem with all the older p2p networks - full of leechers and too few sharers |
| 22:19.45 | Leeds | hmm... looking at the ads on TV - you'd think there was some major gift-giving season approaching |
| 22:20.48 | highbury | but at least i've found a Buffy .torrent :-) |
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| 22:21.07 | Leeds | um |
| 22:21.17 | Leeds | you shouldn't need anything all all except a recent Python |
| 22:21.36 | highbury | wxPython python:curses |
| 22:21.55 | highbury | dang! doesn't Firebird use /etc/mailcap |
| 22:22.47 | Leeds | you don't need wxPython unless you want to run the graphical client... and it doesn't really give you anything over the curses one |
| 22:22.58 | Leeds | and I'd say curses was pretty standard as part of a core install |
| 22:23.17 | highbury | it wasn't on SUSE 9.0, but I have it now. |
| 22:24.43 | Leeds | curses isn't stanard on SUSE 9.0? |
| 22:24.56 | wethrin | ncurses should be |
| 22:25.29 | highbury | Python curses module |
| 22:26.21 | highbury | python-curses-2.3-43.rpm to be precise |
| 22:26.48 | Leeds | strange... I'd consider it a core python module as well |
| 22:31.25 | highbury | hmm, having problems with getting /etc/mailcap entry recognised |
| 22:33.38 | highbury | anybody configured BitTorrent to work with Konqueror? |
| 22:34.05 | murble | highbury: in my 5 second test, it appears to "just work(tm)" |
| 22:34.17 | Leeds | hmm... that's slightly worrying |
| 22:34.40 | Leeds | highbury: I just download the torrent file, or copy the URL, and give it to the bt client |
| 22:35.02 | highbury | ok, I'll try from the commandline |
| 22:35.31 | murble | highbury: I don't think bittorrent likes youl... |
| 22:36.44 | highbury | :] |
| 22:40.46 | highbury | error message "Problem connecting to tracker - HTTP Error 400: Not Authorized" |
| 22:40.58 | highbury | I take it, that's bad? |
| 22:41.53 | murble | highbury: sounds like your .torrent has gone and run away. |
| 22:41.57 | murble | highbury: can you wget it etc? |
| 22:44.43 | highbury | I've copied the .torrent file locally |
| 22:46.08 | murble | highbury: looks like the tracker is then unavalible, which is a bit fatal. |
| 22:51.46 | Leeds | hey cope |
| 22:52.14 | Cope | Hi Leeds! |
| 22:53.16 | Cope | BitTorrent from command line is your friend. :o) |
| 22:53.32 | Cope | curses is all I use. |
| 22:54.37 | murble | curses curses curses! |
| 22:55.27 | Leeds | foiled again? |
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| 22:59.01 | highbury | remind me what the tracker is? |
| 22:59.47 | Clyphox | ? |
| 23:00.01 | Leeds | the tracker is what maintains the current download/upload list |
| 23:00.48 | highbury | actually the gui's working for me. With SuSE 8.2 one had to try and compile wxPython oneself, and it wasn't easy or even possible, at least with SUSE 9.0 it just works |
| 23:10.42 | Cope | Anyone know of a site that has good book reviews by respected people rather than random punters? |
| 23:11.05 | murble | what sort of books? |
| 23:12.02 | Cope | Programming / Sysadmin / Security etc |
| 23:12.22 | murble | Security Eingeering, R Anderson is quite good. |
| 23:12.27 | Cope | I went to Holborn Books today, and there were lots of books! Just wanted a bit of guidance. |
| 23:13.27 | murble | APUE is good. |
| 23:13.47 | Cope | What's that? |
| 23:14.01 | murble | Advanced Programming in the UNIX enviroement |
| 23:14.35 | murble | Unix Network Programming |
| 23:14.49 | highbury | USENIX and SAGE provide good reviews for books |
| 23:15.16 | murble | the TCP/IP Illustrated seris are quite good. |
| 23:15.26 | murble | s/are/is/ |
| 23:35.53 | Cope | Is there a parent still awake? Could use a spot of advice... :o) |
| 23:37.13 | highbury | yo! |
| 23:37.46 | highbury | I can try and help cope |
| 23:38.34 | murble | highbury: do you have parental liability insurance? |
| 23:45.41 | Clyphox | Hi Cope |
| 23:45.53 | highbury | hmmm, I found my Buffy episode on an irc server, I tried joining the relevant channel, but was immediately banned, what can I do? |
| 23:46.04 | wethrin | Register your nickname |
| 23:48.54 | wethrin | Oh. It's so quiet when the rackmount machine goes offline |
| 23:49.20 | murble | highbury: from the channel? |
| 23:50.49 | wethrin | Right. I be off to sleep. Too late again |
| 23:50.50 | wethrin | g'night all |
| 23:50.54 | highbury | yep from the channel |
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| 23:52.07 | murble | highbury: probably they have silly rules or somthing, or you weren't sharing enough warez etc. |
| 23:52.18 | Marios_ | hello |
| 23:54.07 | Clyphox | Anyone here know how to format a mass-storage CF card? |
| 23:54.20 | Clyphox | I assume it needs to be vfat like the current partition |
| 23:55.19 | Leeds | Clyphox: on Linux? |
| 23:55.26 | Clyphox | Leeds: yes |
| 23:55.38 | Leeds | just make a filesystem on it |
| 23:56.51 | murble | Clyphox: use mtools |
| 23:57.00 | Cope | hi clyphox |
| 23:57.19 | Clyphox | murble: I'll look into mtools |
| 23:57.31 | Clyphox | Cope: hows the family? |
| 23:57.56 | Cope | S is asleep, Wm is sleepy, and i'm cuddling him now. |
| 23:58.06 | Cope | gwkki9 |
| 23:58.13 | Cope | ^ wm's foot |
| 23:58.14 | Clyphox | PICS? |
| 23:58.24 | Cope | Webserver? |
| 23:58.25 | murble | Clyphox: Wm is a horrible abrivation! |
| 23:58.31 | murble | s/Clyhphox/Cope/ |
| 23:58.35 | Cope | Why? |
| 23:58.35 | Clyphox | np |
| 23:58.56 | Cope | clyphox: pics are on hdd in old (dead) machine. |
| 23:58.58 | Clyphox | is he named after Our Big Brother? |
| 23:59.19 | Cope | I'll mount it soon, transfer the pics, and put them online. |
| 23:59.34 | Cope | I'm doing apache now(ish) |
| 23:59.52 | Cope | Trying to decide if 2.x is worth a play. |