| 00:00.15 | new2unix | Xmas is over. Yipee! |
| 00:00.32 | Leeds | Yipee? |
| 00:00.53 | Cope | new2unix: I dunno - it always works; and it just worked in knoppix |
| 00:01.16 | new2unix | Leeds: yeah. It lost its sparkle when i was very young |
| 00:01.17 | Cope | But it just isn't doing anything |
| 00:01.32 | new2unix | Cope: mouse driver installed? |
| 00:01.42 | Leeds | new2unix: :-( |
| 00:01.46 | Cope | new2unix: I have no idea. |
| 00:02.15 | Leeds | this is the first Christmas in years I've noticed |
| 00:02.25 | Cope | new2unix: I've never had any problems with a mouse in 4 years of using linux so i don't even know how they work |
| 00:02.58 | Cope | I haven't really had a christmas |
| 00:03.26 | new2unix | ok. i'm not an Xpert, wait till the morning when the others drop by. but i think gpm needs to be installed. |
| 00:04.21 | new2unix | Cope: General Purpose Mouse Interface |
| 00:04.23 | Cope | Seems very unlikely; as gpm is a generic mouse driver that I use in console that is not installed by default |
| 00:04.43 | Cope | But the mouse still works in X |
| 00:05.20 | new2unix | Oh ok. well i really dont know, sorry :( |
| 00:06.11 | new2unix | Cope: what warning, errors do you get? |
| 00:07.09 | Cope | new2unix: Nothing; I just get a mouse pointer in the middle of the screen that doesn't move. |
| 00:11.36 | new2unix | whats your default screen like? It isnt too high is it? |
| 00:12.25 | Cope | No |
| 00:12.38 | Cope | everything is fine apart from the inability to move the pointer |
| 00:15.01 | Leeds | you can tell X to use gpm as the mouse driver... |
| 00:22.47 | Cope | Yay! |
| 00:23.05 | Cope | Changed protocol from auto to ps2 and we're there. |
| 00:46.22 | highbury | the general rule of thunm currently is X will "Just work" (tm) under Knoppix, then steal the config file to get running on your own set up |
| 00:46.56 | highbury | anyways have a cool yule guys .... nn |
| 00:47.03 | Leeds | night highbury |
| 00:47.30 | Cope | highbury: yep, did that, but for the mouse not working. |
| 00:47.42 | Cope | nn highury |
| 00:53.34 | Leeds | news update from Beagle: nothing found by Jodrell Bank :-( |
| 01:00.25 | Cope | Hmm... what could I use to launch windows and menus, to go with metacity? |
| 01:05.24 | Leeds | the GNOME panel, traditionally |
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| 08:39.14 | evangineer | morning peeps |
| 08:39.39 | evangineer | ibot beagle |
| 08:39.41 | | somebody said beagle was a nose with a dog on the back of it |
| 08:40.11 | evangineer | ibot beagle2 |
| 08:40.14 | | no idea, evangineer |
| 08:41.32 | Leeds | pretty much sums it up :-( |
| 08:43.16 | evangineer | Ah well! What's the next window of opportunity for communication? |
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| 08:44.08 | Leeds | thee are 2 windows today, I think, then they start to give up |
| 08:44.58 | Leeds | ah, no |
| 08:45.04 | Leeds | one today, one tomorrow... |
| 08:45.21 | Leeds | at around 2320 both days |
| 08:48.18 | evangineer | Guess that's it then until 2320. How was your Xmas day? |
| 08:50.05 | Leeds | not bad... didn't do much |
| 08:50.07 | Leeds | you? |
| 08:51.02 | evangineer | Went to my mum's, ate until stuffed, went home to sleep it off! |
| 08:51.46 | Leeds | nice |
| 08:53.12 | evangineer | Hung out with my brothers, watched Tomorrow Never Dies and Some Like It Hot |
| 08:54.20 | evangineer | resuDaed: Some Like It Hot, they just don't make screwball comedies like they used to. |
| 08:55.36 | evangineer | Ouch! X-Chat expanded Re to resuDaed :-( |
| 09:01.01 | Leeds | undeed |
| 09:17.42 | evangineer | Ack! DHCP is still broken, it was working a couple of days ago. |
| 09:19.39 | evangineer | Looks like the DHCP requests are getting caught on the firewall. I haven't changed the ruleset, so they shouldn't be caught. |
| 09:26.42 | evangineer | Ah I see!, the rc.firewall-2.4-stronger firewall ruleset doesn't allow internal DHCPd requests by default! |
| 09:38.47 | evangineer | Restarting the firewall with the modified ruleset hasn't quite done the trick. DHCPd is receiving a DHCPDISCOVER and responding with a DHCPOFFER, but my client is not getting the offered IP address. |
| 09:42.43 | evangineer | Doh! I had fixed the INPUT rules, but not the OUTPUT rules. |
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| 09:53.09 | evangineer | It's working now! Both my Linux and W2K clients are getting their IP addresses! |
| 09:53.52 | evangineer | W2K DHCP client implementation looks a bit broken to me judging by /var/log/messages though. |
| 09:56.46 | evangineer | Time to see if this laptop will work with my local DHCP server. |
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| 10:02.20 | evangineer | This laptop works with the internal DHCP server now. |
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| 10:13.52 | evangineer | ntl web proxy seems to be in bad shape right now. www.theregister.co.uk and www.theinquirer.net are coming up very slowly. |
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| 10:19.26 | zachary | Happy Boxing Day, 7th day of Hanukkah and 1st day of Kwanzza |
| 10:28.36 | evangineer | Happy holidays zachary |
| 10:50.35 | evangineer | evangineer is quite amused by http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,4149,1420046,00.asp |
| 11:45.18 | wethrin | Hi |
| 11:46.27 | evangineer | Hey wethrin |
| 11:48.08 | wethrin | Grmpf. I is not well. |
| 11:48.31 | wethrin | And $swerver restarted last night again. For some reason, Clam AV doesn't want to come back up properly |
| 11:50.26 | evangineer | I had some DHCP troubles myself, but that was down to a misconfigured firewall which I've fixed. |
| 11:50.36 | wethrin | :) |
| 11:51.24 | evangineer | So what ails you, food, flu, or something else? |
| 11:52.07 | wethrin | A cold. Overnight it's moved down into my throat |
| 11:52.20 | wethrin | "The coughing, she hurts" |
| 11:52.49 | evangineer | Urgh! I hope you're taking something for that. |
| 11:58.17 | wethrin | What? |
| 12:02.18 | evangineer | Taking something for the cold, that is! |
| 12:02.27 | wethrin | Yes, what? :) |
| 12:03.33 | evangineer | Perhaps Lemsip Cold and Flu capsules - the strong ones! |
| 12:04.45 | wethrin | Yes....I'm not sure if there are any downstairs. |
| 12:04.49 | wethrin | And I think Tesco is closed today |
| 12:09.18 | evangineer | Maybe you should phone Tesco to make sure that it is indeed closed or not? |
| 12:10.15 | wethrin | There appears to be some medication available in the house |
| 12:10.49 | Cope | Sorry you're feeling ill, old thing. |
| 12:12.03 | wethrin | Thanks :) |
| 12:13.15 | wethrin | I have a throat sweet. |
| 12:13.33 | Xiaoqi | hello everyone! |
| 12:15.32 | Cope | Hi Xiaoqi. |
| 12:15.40 | wethrin | hihi |
| 12:16.16 | Cope | wethrin: know a quick and easy way to make an xterm have a bigger window and bigger font? On 1600x1200 the current one is a bit small. |
| 12:18.24 | wethrin | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:19.34 | zachary | wethrin: Anything sugary, hot water & lemon juice for the throat. Paracetramol(sp) for fever. Push fluids Otherwise there is nothing you can do for a cold except to ride it out. Now I sound like one of your parents, right? |
| 12:20.17 | wethrin | Yes, dad :) |
| 12:20.53 | zachary | ok, now shut your computer down and get some rest. |
| 12:23.06 | wethrin | :) |
| 12:23.26 | wethrin | I have stuff to do, though |
| 12:30.21 | JD | hi alll |
| 12:31.48 | JD | did I miss anyone? |
| 12:33.46 | wethrin | evangineer |
| 12:36.35 | Cope | Hi JD |
| 12:40.11 | evangineer | wethrin? |
| 12:40.14 | wethrin | Hi |
| 12:40.18 | wethrin | JD missed you |
| 12:40.50 | evangineer | No probs, I'll just sulk |
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| 12:42.32 | jason_ukfsn | hello folks |
| 12:42.37 | Cope | Hi Jason |
| 12:42.50 | jason_ukfsn | Hi Cope. Are you around today? |
| 12:42.53 | evangineer | Hey jason |
| 12:43.01 | wethrin | Could someone quickly send a test email to dan@eco.li, please? |
| 12:43.31 | jason_ukfsn | I'll be in the area this afternoon if you want to get that drink |
| 12:43.39 | evangineer | wethrin: done |
| 12:43.40 | jason_ukfsn | wethrin - domain not found |
| 12:43.51 | wethrin | evangineer: Thanks |
| 12:43.57 | wethrin | jason_ukfsn: Huh? |
| 12:44.42 | jason_ukfsn | wethrin just me being stupid and typing .il instead of .li |
| 12:44.50 | wethrin | Ahh :) I do that quite often. |
| 12:44.51 | evangineer | dig says that eco.li is on 195.82.99.7 |
| 12:44.55 | wethrin | Yes, that seemed to arrive, thanks. |
| 12:45.05 | jason_ukfsn | i've sent one now |
| 12:45.07 | wethrin | Yes, but that's not where the mail goes to (yet) |
| 12:45.30 | wethrin | Thanks - got both of yours :) |
| 12:47.10 | wethrin | Grmpf. *bangs his head* |
| 12:47.35 | JD | ooh hi jason_ukfsn and sorry evangineer |
| 12:47.56 | jason_ukfsn | hi JD |
| 12:48.02 | jason_ukfsn | enjoying christmas? |
| 12:48.10 | evangineer | JD you are forgiven. |
| 12:48.25 | JD | jason_ukfsn: not particularly |
| 12:48.38 | wethrin | Hmm.....does Exim to odd things if it's unable to send mail to a particular domain for some time? |
| 12:48.52 | JD | wethrin: it keeps it in the queue |
| 12:48.58 | wethrin | (i.e. will it automatically decide to use the backup MX?) |
| 12:49.00 | JD | until it gets bounced |
| 12:49.15 | JD | it should try MXs in order until it sends it |
| 12:49.19 | wethrin | Okay. |
| 12:49.28 | JD | if it completely fails then it waits for a retry |
| 12:49.47 | wethrin | It does keep a record of 'oh, I haven't been able to send to the primary for some time; I'll stick with the secondary for a few more hours'? |
| 12:49.49 | wethrin | *doesn't |
| 12:49.51 | JD | auiu |
| 12:49.53 | JD | aiui |
| 12:50.12 | JD | erm it does seem to keep a record of something about hosts being crap iirc |
| 12:50.24 | JD | but I;m not certain what exactly |
| 12:50.50 | wethrin | Ahhhh.......that might explain a bit |
| 12:51.37 | wethrin | The US server has been going down more than Jenson at a Gllug meeting |
| 12:52.42 | JD | wethrin: meow |
| 12:54.55 | wethrin | Hmm. I guess I should ride out for the next 24 hours and see if it'll come alive again |
| 12:56.04 | jason_ukfsn | wethrin - I take it you've tried etrn? |
| 12:56.24 | wethrin | No... |
| 12:56.51 | jason_ukfsn | that should prompt the server to attempt delivery of any mail in it's queue for the specified domain |
| 12:57.40 | wethrin | So I need to connect to the mail server, EHLO it, and type ETRN? |
| 12:58.20 | jason_ukfsn | you don't need to ehlo unless you are unsure it supports etrn and want to check |
| 12:58.30 | jason_ukfsn | telnet host 25 |
| 12:58.33 | wethrin | It does, but gives me an administrative prohibition |
| 12:58.38 | jason_ukfsn | etrn domain.name |
| 12:58.39 | jason_ukfsn | quit |
| 12:58.50 | wethrin | ETRN eco.li |
| 12:58.51 | wethrin | 458 Administrative prohibition |
| 12:59.10 | jason_ukfsn | oh dear. sounds like you are going to have to wait then. |
| 12:59.14 | wethrin | Yes. |
| 12:59.31 | wethrin | Grumble. Stupid piece of crap machine. |
| 13:00.05 | wethrin | clamd doesn't come up properly on startup. So mail can't get into the queue on the server. I need to start clam manually. |
| 13:00.28 | jason_ukfsn | don't you have it called from the mta startup script? |
| 13:00.47 | wethrin | Nope. I've got clam and spamd running from separate startup scripts |
| 13:00.56 | wethrin | Odd thing is that when I do /etc/init.d/clamd start, it works fine |
| 13:01.34 | jason_ukfsn | so what's in the script that isn't right? |
| 13:01.39 | wethrin | I don't know |
| 13:01.58 | wethrin | It just doesn't seem to want to start on bootup |
| 13:02.06 | wethrin | /etc/rc3.d/S82clamd is linked properly |
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| 13:03.05 | JD | hi cupis |
| 13:03.09 | cupis | hello |
| 13:03.32 | jason_ukfsn | hey cupis |
| 13:03.38 | cupis | hi jason |
| 13:03.43 | cupis | how wa everyone's Christmas? |
| 13:03.51 | wethrin | hi cupis |
| 13:04.03 | jason_ukfsn | i'm still enjoying mine cupis. Hopefully I have another ten days after today as well |
| 13:04.13 | cupis | jason_ukfsn: :) |
| 13:05.43 | jason_ukfsn | wethrin what are the dependancies for clamd? |
| 13:07.59 | jason_ukfsn | JD - make sure the cinema you go to wont need to have a break - the second time I watched the film was a bit ruined by the break. |
| 13:08.26 | jason_ukfsn | it was also ruined by the bastard kids in the row behind me who wouldn't stop laughing and shouting. |
| 13:08.48 | jason_ukfsn | I had to offer to break the arm of one of them at the start of the film when he started throwing popcorn at me. |
| 13:09.41 | jason_ukfsn | some of the other adults there gave me dirty looks at that however it wasn't long before they were making similar comments |
| 13:09.48 | wethrin | jason_ukfsn: No dependencies, I think |
| 13:10.13 | Cope | any lotr films. |
| 13:10.36 | wethrin | Well, you should :) |
| 13:12.36 | jason_ukfsn | evangineer - gandalf is particularly good in the battle scenes in ROTK |
| 13:12.36 | evangineer | Anyone implemented fwsnort and/or psad |
| 13:12.56 | wethrin | Duck++ |
| 13:13.01 | JD | duck is good |
| 13:13.04 | wethrin | Back later. |
| 13:13.08 | JD | I want duck |
| 13:13.27 | JD | duck? |
| 13:13.31 | jason_ukfsn | Cope - do you have a DVD player or DVD drive in PC? |
| 13:13.36 | evangineer | jason_ukfsn: I'll be sure to see RoTK then. |
| 13:13.51 | wethrin | JD: If you think you should |
| 13:14.34 | jason_ukfsn | If you do I can borrow you the first and second films on DVD (the former is a screener and the latter may not play if you're player is strict about indexes) |
| 13:14.38 | Cope | jason_ukfsn: No, but I have a contraption that can be contrived to play dvds on my monitor |
| 13:14.44 | wethrin | Right, anyway. Byee |
| 13:15.07 | evangineer | See you later wethrin |
| 13:17.20 | jason_ukfsn | I enjoyed Revolutions - you do have to have seen Animatrix to get it properly though. |
| 13:17.48 | JD | jason_ukfsn: I think you need to play the game too aiui |
| 13:18.03 | jason_ukfsn | JD - I've not even seen the game |
| 13:18.10 | zachary | jason_ukfsn: Yes, I agree. (I haven't played the game) |
| 13:18.29 | evangineer | I have seen some of the Animatrix, mainly Second Genesis or whatever it's called |
| 13:19.02 | evangineer | I've seen just about all the cut scenes from the game. |
| 13:19.28 | JD | evangineer: the last short is very good (the girl in the old house) |
| 13:19.39 | jason_ukfsn | I picked up a copy of animatrix from Ebay and I'm very happy I did |
| 13:20.37 | evangineer | I'll have to see if my brother has animatrix in his extensive collection. |
| 13:21.43 | zachary | Next gllug meeting, show animatrix from noon-12:30. |
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| 13:23.23 | evangineer | zachary: really? |
| 13:23.39 | stephanb | Xiaoqi: merry xmas ! |
| 13:24.04 | jason_ukfsn | zachary just don't announce it as it would be copyright violation. :( |
| 13:24.05 | zachary | could, just not announce it, so it is not a public screening. |
| 13:24.12 | stephanb | woaow so many people online today ! |
| 13:24.41 | stephanb | Cope: any more thoughts on your PC based TV set ? |
| 13:25.04 | zachary | We could call it an educational study / philosophical debate. |
| 13:25.39 | evangineer | zachary: sounds good to me ;-) |
| 13:25.57 | jason_ukfsn | has anyone here used a DVBs (satellite) card? |
| 13:26.19 | Cope | stephanb: Yeah, subsequent investigation revealed that the motherboard in the pc in question only supports AGPx2 so I think I'll wait and save up. |
| 13:32.43 | stephanb | Cope: i just checked, my mb is 133MHz FSB, APGx4. I use an nVidia TNT2, and the nVidia drivers are required if i intend to scale the video buffer |
| 13:33.47 | stephanb | jason_ukfsn: no, but my tv card encodes analog tv into mpeg-2. what would you like to know about dvbs ? |
| 13:35.22 | Cope | stephanb: Hmm... |
| 13:36.00 | jason_ukfsn | stephanb: I have a Sky mini dish but don't use it at the moment. I'm thinking of hooking it up to a DVB card and trying to get German freeview channels for my wife |
| 13:41.01 | stephanb | jason_ukfsn: this is more a frequency allocation / descrambler / size of dish question. Are those german channels on the sky satellite ? |
| 13:42.09 | jason_ukfsn | I know they were on Astra satellites several years ago however I am not sure now. |
| 13:42.49 | jason_ukfsn | If not I know it will be necessary to align the dish to point at other sats but I hope not. |
| 13:43.10 | JD | ooh a stephanb |
| 13:43.20 | stephanb | Cope: maybe it's above your budget, but if i were building a pctv i would look into shuttle-pc mini-itx systems. And i would avoid the via C3, don't think it's powerful enough to decode mpeg-2. |
| 13:43.45 | JD | some of the via boards have mpeg2 stuff on board |
| 13:43.55 | jason_ukfsn | stephanb how about one of the C3 Nehemia (sp?) boards with onboard MPEG decoder? |
| 13:46.15 | stephanb | jason_ukfsn: oh yes you won't catch astra with a dish pointing to the sky satellite, you'll have to realigh it. also check that your dish is big enough and that the lnb can get the astra frequency bands |
| 13:47.02 | stephanb | jason_ukfsn: there is an article on this board in the current issue of linux format. The drivers for the mpeg decoder are in development. |
| 13:47.04 | jason_ukfsn | I thought Sky were still on the Astra satelittes? |
| 13:55.16 | stephanb | jason_ukfsn: this is correct, sky digital comes from ASTRA2. It seems to me that most german free channels are on ASTRA1 analogue |
| 13:58.08 | jason_ukfsn | Ah. I didn't keep my old Sky analogue dish when I moved house - did keep the analogue sky box though. :( |
| 13:58.43 | stephanb | jason_ukfsn: ARD, 3SAT, ARTE, Bayerisches Fernsehen, ... analogue, orbital position 19.2E |
| 13:58.58 | stephanb | jason_ukfsn: http://www.ses-astra.com/tv-radio/guide/lineup/markets/UK_all.htm |
| 14:00.08 | stephanb | jason_ukfsn: for astra 1C, you will need a 60cm dish. |
| 14:02.29 | jason_ukfsn | I'll have to check and see whether any of the neighbours has one they're not using any more. |
| 14:03.02 | jason_ukfsn | I know that there is one on the wall of the building and there are planning issues with adding any more dishes |
| 14:04.00 | stephanb | jason_ukfsn: any way a DVBs card is useless for astra 1C |
| 14:04.58 | jason_ukfsn | ah yes I should have thought 'D' being the obvious indicator. |
| 14:05.16 | jason_ukfsn | I do have the old analogue receiver though so that should do. |
| 14:05.27 | stephanb | jason_ukfsn: if there is already a dish, and it's large enough, you may just need to add a lnb |
| 14:16.42 | jason_ukfsn | thanks stephanb. I'm heading into town now. Hopefully back online in about 30 minutes |
| 14:21.09 | wethrin | Blah |
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| 15:23.32 | evangineer | wb jason: |
| 15:23.51 | jason_ukfsn | I've just arrived |
| 15:23.53 | jason_ukfsn | re all |
| 15:24.29 | evangineer | What's town like? |
| 15:24.38 | jason_ukfsn | which town? |
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| 17:17.27 | wethrin | wb |
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| 17:50.44 | zachary | hey wethrin, did I miss anything? |
| 18:02.25 | Cope|Pub | ~ |
| 18:34.57 | wethrin | zachary: Nope |
| 18:37.25 | zachary | We need some dialog going. How about starting a rumor? |
| 18:37.47 | wethrin | Bets on how many new boyfriends Jenson will have next year? |
| 18:39.25 | zachary | I didn't keep track of her 2003 stats. So I couldn't make an educated guess. |
| 18:39.39 | wethrin | 4 |
| 18:40.19 | zachary | If she forgets to take her anti depresants. I'll go with 6. |
| 18:40.44 | wethrin | Heh :) |
| 18:41.16 | zachary | MS is sponsoring our Spring Install Fest! |
| 18:41.30 | wethrin | Oh? |
| 18:43.58 | wethrin | Sponsoring how? |
| 18:45.49 | zachary | Donations of box versions of Windows XP and Office. I think it's an attempt to lure people back. |
| 18:45.58 | wethrin | Muahah. |
| 18:46.32 | zachary | Plus a demo on the current state of Longhorn. |
| 18:46.34 | wethrin | So we have a Gllug quiz - top performers get the SUSE boxes, and the bottom people get the Windows boxes as booby prises? |
| 18:46.38 | wethrin | *prizes |
| 18:46.39 | wethrin | :) |
| 18:47.37 | zachary | brb |
| 19:06.49 | wethrin | w00t. My email's finally decided to come through :0 |
| 19:06.50 | wethrin | :) |
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| 19:23.00 | XmasHuhn | hi |
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| 19:24.28 | wethrin | Huhn! |
| 19:24.39 | XmasHuhn | :) |
| 19:24.43 | wethrin | Nadolig Llawen! |
| 19:24.52 | XmasHuhn | um... |
| 19:24.55 | XmasHuhn | Frohe Weihnachten? |
| 19:25.03 | wethrin | Auch :) |
| 19:25.06 | wethrin | Ja. |
| 19:26.07 | XmasHuhn | :) |
| 19:27.27 | wethrin | :) |
| 19:32.17 | wethrin | biab |
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| 20:21.37 | wethrin | 'lo |
| 20:23.43 | wethrin | Hi |
| 20:24.06 | wethrin | I really need to recable the speakers |
| 20:24.32 | wethrin | I'm just using shitty cables :) |
| 20:24.46 | wethrin | I've got some better ones, but it'll probably take most of an hour to recable |
| 20:24.54 | wethrin | (it's in an awkward position) |
| 20:26.23 | Cope | annoying... |
| 20:29.35 | wethrin | Yep |
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| 20:32.51 | wethrin | Hey omphe |
| 20:33.02 | omphe | evening all! |
| 20:34.21 | Cope | Hello |
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| 20:47.13 | highbury | I have a friend who has an old Apple, what distro is recommended? |
| 20:47.43 | omphe | Motorola or PowerPC? |
| 20:47.57 | wethrin | MacOS 7 or 8? |
| 20:59.52 | Cope | mozrat! |
| 21:00.30 | Cope | higbury: netBSD? |
| 21:06.29 | mozrat | Cope!! |
| 21:06.45 | mozrat | highbury: Debian! |
| 21:08.25 | omphe | highbury: debian works on everything, but YellowDog is recommended for newcomers |
| 21:08.26 | wethrin | Debian sucks. |
| 21:08.33 | wethrin | Go for NetBSD :) |
| 21:08.41 | mozrat | ibot lart wethrin |
| 21:08.44 | mozrat | woot |
| 21:09.47 | mozrat | go on then wethrin.... for some conversation. why does debian suck? |
| 21:10.36 | wethrin | I like annoying the "everyone *must* use Debian"-crowd of people :) |
| 21:11.06 | wethrin | Plus it's always had some problems whenever I've had to use it |
| 21:11.28 | mozrat | if i ever see any of them I'll pass your compliments onto them ;-) .. highbury asked, and debian works fine on ppc (so does YD) |
| 21:11.59 | wethrin | Oh, plus the attitude of a lot of Debian users/developers *really* pisses me off. |
| 21:12.21 | mozrat | aptitude? |
| 21:13.24 | Cope | Why do so few people here use redhat or mandrake, I wonder. Seems there are bags of debianites and some faithful slackers. |
| 21:13.49 | wethrin | Quite a lot of people use RedHat |
| 21:14.39 | mozrat | how about a quick straw poll |
| 21:15.13 | wethrin | Yellow, and about yea long. |
| 21:16.18 | Cope | mozrat: slackware on one box, netbsd on another and a debian partition to play on. |
| 21:17.37 | mozrat | redhat at home.... debian on laptop and work pc (windows cd-rom in bottom of wardrobe) |
| 21:18.13 | omphe | debian ix86 (3), debian ppc(1) |
| 21:18.30 | wethrin | OS X at home |
| 21:18.38 | wethrin | And lots of other systems beside |
| 21:18.58 | mozrat | oh and a zaurus - openzaurus |
| 21:19.03 | Cope | me too! |
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| 21:34.00 | mozrat | Hmm.... laptop froze then. Hope thats not a sign of things to come |
| 21:34.39 | Cope | Bloody debian :o) |
| 21:36.57 | mozrat | :=( |
| 21:39.30 | mozrat | I'm going to install a IRC server at work.... Looked at dancer-ircd (which this channel runs over) but wanted something with the ability to force authentication, and basically disallow public access to channels. Does such a creature exist? |
| 21:41.55 | evangineer | wethrin: my straw poll entry - slackware on four boxes |
| 22:08.29 | wethrin | I only work for SUSE |
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