| 00:01.36 | rhowe | heh |
| 00:01.50 | pie | http://home.hellacool.co.uk/temp/c.png |
| 00:01.54 | pie | OK, now I got to go |
| 00:01.57 | pie | later |
| 00:05.00 | rhowe | Cope: Were you at the meet this evening? |
| 00:06.28 | rhowe | Cope: Ah, I guess not, looking at /lastlog |
| 00:07.25 | evangineer | hmm! Google has never heard of Extimpulate, pie may have been having us on! |
| 00:07.37 | rhowe | lol |
| 00:11.20 | rhowe | It is a lateral alveolar fricative (lisp) from IPA |
| 00:11.33 | rhowe | U+02AA LATIN SMALL LETTER LS DIGRAPH |
| 00:13.59 | rhowe | http://www.siksai.co.uk/~rhowe/laf.png |
| 00:18.01 | evangineer | rhowe: are you sure about the url? I'm getting a Not Found |
| 00:18.23 | rhowe | hm, lemme check |
| 00:19.13 | rhowe | Somehow it ended up in ~, not ~/public_html. Fixed now |
| 00:19.45 | evangineer | got it! |
| 00:20.34 | rhowe | It was suprisingly easy to find too.. load Gnome's unicode character map, choose search from the menu and paste it in |
| 00:24.29 | wethrin | 'lo |
| 00:27.32 | rhowe | wethrin: heya. Sorry I didn't make it - noticed I'd spent too much lately |
| 00:31.06 | wethrin | Ah well. Maybe next time, then :) |
| 00:31.29 | wethrin | g'night all |
| 00:33.04 | rhowe | 'night |
| 01:42.02 | murb | and london.beer tomorrow anyone? |
| 01:59.45 | rhowe | murb: Depends on cash, I guess |
| 03:17.48 | evangineer | nn all |
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| 06:30.06 | Tarragon | Moin |
| 06:32.13 | new2unix | moin Tarragon |
| 06:37.46 | irvined | moin |
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| 08:28.05 | zachary | moin |
| 08:28.13 | Nutshell | morin everyone |
| 08:28.38 | Nutshell | zachary: congrats to JESS :) |
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| 08:32.08 | zachary | Nutshell: Thanks. She is very relieved and happy about doing so well. |
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| 09:08.24 | Nutshell | haha just had a look at my webb space and it gone up from 10 to 30Mb :) |
| 09:11.20 | Nutshell | wish the line would increase fro 512k to 2mb for nowt |
| 09:13.10 | zachary | 30MB would not be enough for me. |
| 09:15.33 | Nutshell | my webb page is "well empty" Leeds is spoiled :) |
| 09:18.43 | zachary | If I were single, I would move to where I could get the most bandwidth. If that meant moving into an office building basement shack, I'd probably consider it. |
| 09:19.09 | Nutshell | lol |
| 09:38.31 | Tarragon | 30MB not enough? Just how much pr0n and MP3s do you have on line? |
| 09:39.10 | Leeds | mmm... pr0n and MP3s |
| 09:41.36 | Nutshell | pr0n & MP3s dont't watch pr0n and as for music vinyl for me :) |
| 09:42.05 | Tarragon | Leeds: what else could you fill up 30+MB with. |
| 09:42.50 | Leeds | Tarragon: photos? |
| 09:42.57 | Leeds | (i.e. from digital camera) |
| 09:43.03 | Tarragon | Nutshell: Aalogue stuff, surely digital is better. |
| 09:43.18 | Leeds | software - including previous versions and screenshots, etv. |
| 09:43.36 | Nutshell | ho no cd's don't sound as good as good old vinyl |
| 09:43.55 | Nutshell | lol |
| 09:44.03 | Leeds | Tarragon: indeed... hey - you're *in* some of them :-) |
| 09:45.22 | Tarragon | The sad thing is I know, because I browsed through them. You had one of the first Fosdem collections. |
| 09:45.32 | Leeds | right |
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| 09:46.55 | Leeds | morning anth |
| 10:02.29 | anth | Hi, hows life? |
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| 10:03.20 | Leeds | not bad... |
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| 10:15.17 | zachary | Tarragon: > 30MB full of http://zjstruhs.homelinux.com ! |
| 10:16.30 | Cope | morning all |
| 10:17.24 | Nutshell | mornin Cope |
| 10:17.28 | zachary | Morning Cope |
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| 10:23.13 | Xiaoqi | hiya every1 |
| 10:23.28 | Tarragon | zachary Good site. 30MB wow never realised that photos were so bulky. What is "Liquid Smoke"? |
| 10:24.54 | zachary | I'm not finished uploading photos. Liquid smoke is an aditive made from hickory. Gives food a "smokey flavor" |
| 10:25.26 | Cope | hi xq |
| 10:27.03 | zachary | Tarragon: Site is still lacking. It was quickly put together to get photos to the family. |
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| 12:13.24 | Leeds | so, Safari... has got over a pound per month cheaper in the past couple of months, due to the fall of the dollar :-) |
| 12:14.41 | anth | Safari? |
| 12:16.49 | zachary | anth: Safari = Mac OS X.3 |
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| 12:19.56 | anth | I thought that was panther, safari being the browser? |
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| 12:21.30 | Nutshell | welcome back folks ! |
| 12:21.35 | Leeds | anth: Safari the O'Reilly online library, not Safari the descended-from-KHTML browser :-) |
| 12:22.15 | Leeds | both of which are very good |
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| 12:22.50 | murb | now if it wasn't for the fucked up country in general now would be a good time to visit the US. |
| 12:23.22 | Leeds | indeed |
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| 12:35.19 | anth | Leeds: now it all makes sense |
| 12:35.39 | Leeds | suddenly, everything is clear? |
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| 12:38.34 | gregj | fuck |
| 12:38.42 | gregj | fscking ADSL |
| 12:39.59 | martin | Anyone feeling bored, please test my stuff: http://the.earth.li/~martin/sisela/ :-) |
| 12:41.01 | murb | urgle i have an unpatched racoon :( |
| 12:49.26 | wethrin | martin! |
| 12:49.42 | wethrin | gregj: You watching porn again? :) |
| 13:10.24 | gregj | trying to |
| 13:10.30 | gregj | :] |
| 13:10.42 | gregj | so far ADSL has been fscked few times :> |
| 13:12.38 | zachary | Leeds: ping |
| 13:17.55 | Leeds | pong |
| 13:18.33 | Leeds | zachary: pong |
| 13:19.25 | zachary | Are you running 10.2 or 10.3 on your mac? |
| 13:19.58 | Leeds | 10.3 |
| 13:20.02 | Leeds | .2 |
| 13:20.08 | Leeds | that is... 10.3.2 |
| 13:20.35 | zachary | Do you use 'ssh -X' into other machines? |
| 13:20.57 | Leeds | not particularly |
| 13:21.15 | Leeds | I only run remote X to one machine, and I tend to just use straight X |
| 13:22.08 | Leeds | and I don't have it here with me now, so I can't test anything until this evening if you want me to |
| 13:22.55 | zachary | I downloaded the Xfree86 package and installed it. But I'm having problems when the application is looking for the xserver. |
| 13:23.27 | Leeds | are you on 10.3? |
| 13:23.35 | zachary | same, 10.3.2 |
| 13:23.55 | Leeds | in which case you should be using the X package from the 3rd CD, not the downloadable one, I think |
| 13:24.37 | zachary | Oops, |
| 13:24.55 | Leeds | oh, no |
| 13:25.11 | Leeds | you got it from http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/x11/download/ ? |
| 13:26.41 | zachary | taking a look. |
| 13:27.17 | zachary | Your media system software came on CD's and not DVD? |
| 13:28.21 | Tarragon | martin: Running the CD image - Is my HDD light wired wrong? Seems to try to access the HD when it boots? |
| 13:28.49 | zachary | from http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/unix_open_source/ |
| 13:29.26 | Leeds | I bought the 'up-to-date' upgrade from Jaguar - came on 4 CDs |
| 13:30.39 | Leeds | zachary: exactly which package? |
| 13:30.57 | Leeds | oh, the xfree86 package from the bottom of that page? |
| 13:31.40 | zachary | Xfree86 4.2 - 10.2 |
| 13:32.04 | Leeds | that's obselete |
| 13:32.39 | Leeds | the 'offical' X package from the URL I gave above is XFree86 4.3 with lots of Apple patches - most of which are in the (slightly delayed - should have been released by now) upcoming 4.4 |
| 13:34.23 | zachary | ok, need to uninstall and download the right stuff. Big thanks. |
| 13:34.39 | Leeds | np |
| 13:44.30 | Tarragon | martin: pings rest of network fine. Does want to accept ssh |
| 13:47.37 | martin | Tarragon: You have to explicitly start the SSH server. |
| 13:48.10 | martin | Tarragon: re light - your light is probably associated with the IDE controller, hence will come on for CD access? |
| 13:48.47 | nasrat | hey martin how goes |
| 13:48.49 | martin | (there's no IDE driver, so it certainly won't be trying to access the HDD) |
| 13:49.11 | martin | nasrat: Hey! Not bad, thanks. |
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| 13:52.06 | resuBitch | hi all |
| 13:52.30 | Tarragon | Hi Beth |
| 13:54.50 | resuBitch | Hello, howz u?? |
| 13:57.44 | Tarragon | Fine and how are you both? |
| 13:58.19 | resuDaed | annoyed with small screens |
| 13:58.33 | resuDaed | and about to try a 2.6 kernel |
| 13:58.46 | Tarragon | Then offer to talk the 21" screen on the Gllug list |
| 13:59.00 | resuDaed | Tarragon : laptop :-( |
| 13:59.19 | resuDaed | huge great big black plastic border around the screen |
| 13:59.42 | resuDaed | need to check the service manual for a replacement sometime |
| 14:01.02 | evangineer | hmm - looks like I might be Java coding again |
| 14:02.09 | evangineer | resuDaed: long time no see! |
| 14:03.53 | resuDaed | afternoon evangineer |
| 14:03.53 | evangineer | ah well, if java coding is the price of getting paid, so be it! ;-) |
| 14:04.23 | resuDaed | evangineer : I am reapring windoze machines -- price of getting paid |
| 14:04.45 | evangineer | resuDaed: Did you know that OpenBSD's default apache is chrooted? |
| 14:04.58 | evangineer | resuDaed: you have my sympathy |
| 14:08.15 | resuDaed | evangineer I'd heard something about that |
| 14:09.36 | murb | london.beer |
| 14:09.43 | murb | ? |
| 14:09.50 | resuBitch | hello, was washing my hands :) |
| 14:10.05 | resuBitch | Tarragon : am good, both got JOBS!!! |
| 14:10.24 | agk | wethrin: I applied for 2 free tickets for you...check your email later this afternoon to see if you got them |
| 14:11.59 | evangineer | resuDaed: MoinMoin doesn't work with chrooted Apache. |
| 14:12.52 | resuDaed | evangineer : rebuild apache to /var/www from ports |
| 14:13.15 | evangineer | resuDaed: okay |
| 14:13.49 | zachary | Leeds: The 4.2 was the problem, Works fine now. Thanks again. |
| 14:16.37 | Leeds | zachary: glad to help |
| 14:17.58 | resuBitch | resuDaed: moinmoin |
| 14:18.39 | resuBitch | resuDaed: moinmoin??? what does it mean? |
| 14:20.02 | resuDaed | to anyone logged on to resudaed.com, I apologise for the lag, about 30 mins left of it |
| 14:21.12 | Tarragon | resuDaed: Congrats :-) |
| 14:21.53 | resuDaed | Tarragon :?? |
| 14:22.04 | Tarragon | On jobs |
| 14:22.33 | resuDaed | Tarragon : congrats will be needed when we start retailing linux machines |
| 14:23.00 | Tarragon | martin: How do I set it to my ISPs DNS so it will resolve names. |
| 14:35.00 | resuDaed | me too, but I am kinda in a rush here |
| 14:37.01 | resuBitch | when will it calm down? (say nice things to me between rushing ) :( |
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| 14:48.15 | jason_ukfsn | hi all |
| 14:53.24 | resuDaed | about the same time as me then |
| 14:53.37 | resuDaed | hi jason_ukfsn |
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| 15:06.51 | pawel | hi guys. |
| 15:16.38 | resuBitch | ya |
| 15:17.11 | resuBitch | oops, soz |
| 15:45.42 | Cope | resuDaed: lo |
| 15:47.55 | resuBitch | he's run off :( |
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| 16:09.39 | evangineer | hmm - attack of the netsplits! |
| 16:20.46 | murb | Pub of the day http://london.openguides.org/index.cgi?Calthorpe_Arms%2C_WC1X_8JR |
| 16:25.04 | martin | Tarragon: Put 'nameserver <ip address>' in /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 16:43.40 | pawel | hi evangineer, Cope. |
| 16:59.42 | Cope | hi pawel |
| 17:00.07 | murb | london . beer? |
| 17:00.25 | murb | anyone in london the pub of the day is http://london.openguides.org/index.cgi?Calthorpe_Arms%2C_WC1X_8JR |
| 17:01.03 | Cope | murb: in a london channel, might it make more sense to say: anyone not in london, ignore: |
| 17:01.48 | murb | Cope: I have repeated the same thing in multiple channels. |
| 17:02.15 | Leeds | and wonders why murb is trying to perform matrix multiplication on London |
| 17:03.26 | Cope | london . new york |
| 17:03.33 | Cope | Now that's a big city. |
| 17:04.26 | Cope | leeds: do you have a particular reason for disliking pubs and pub-going? |
| 17:04.37 | Leeds | heh |
| 17:04.42 | Leeds | no - I like pubs and pub-going |
| 17:04.58 | Leeds | what I don't like is going into London after work |
| 17:05.11 | Cope | So hendon.pub is fine? |
| 17:05.19 | Leeds | sure :-0 |
| 17:05.35 | Leeds | uh... :-) |
| 17:05.35 | jason_ukfsn | how about edgeware.pub? |
| 17:05.43 | Cope | Definitely good too. |
| 17:05.47 | murb | how about proper london.pub? |
| 17:06.05 | Leeds | edgeware is good |
| 17:06.20 | Leeds | anywhere I go, I'm going to be driving at least one way, anyway... |
| 17:06.37 | Cope | leeds: you would drive to a pub in hendon? |
| 17:06.49 | Leeds | as opposed to a 30 minute walk? yes |
| 17:06.54 | jason_ukfsn | Leeds: where would you be coming from? |
| 17:07.02 | jason_ukfsn | Are there no buses? |
| 17:07.12 | Leeds | not a lot, no |
| 17:07.48 | Leeds | see, I prefer a 5 minute car journey to a 5 minute walk to the bus stop, then 10-15 minutes waiting (average), then a 5 minute bus journey |
| 17:07.55 | Leeds | and similar on the way back |
| 17:08.10 | Leeds | I'm a lot happier to walk in the summer... |
| 17:08.32 | Cope | jason_ukfsn: did you buy the new (old) astra? |
| 17:09.29 | murb | Cope: so you are not coming to london.pub to celibrate new.job? |
| 17:09.38 | jason_ukfsn | no. The seller insisted upon the full price on the basis that 5 months MOT added 50% to the value - the car had less than 1 month tax so I walked away |
| 17:10.13 | jason_ukfsn | There hasn't been a suitable car over the past couple of days but I can wait |
| 17:10.23 | murb | I won an auction today in the last 5 seconds... |
| 17:10.24 | murb | grr |
| 17:10.28 | murb | i hate it when that happens. |
| 17:10.42 | Leeds | why? |
| 17:10.43 | rhowe | Hendon? beer? |
| 17:10.48 | rhowe | damn |
| 17:11.01 | jason_ukfsn | what what happens murb? |
| 17:11.02 | Cope | murb: I don't have any money until the end of the month; and what I do have gets spent on transport to new job and tedious house-keeping stuff. |
| 17:11.45 | murb | jason_ukfsn: people bid in the last few seconds before the end of the auction and i have to try and catch up. |
| 17:11.59 | murb | which also means i have to be arround for the end of the auction which spoilt my day a bit. |
| 17:12.04 | murb | (but i needed this memory) |
| 17:12.19 | Cope | murb: write a script? |
| 17:12.39 | murb | Cope: nah, i like to decided. |
| 17:12.48 | rhowe | scripted eBay bidding could easily get very dangerous :) |
| 17:13.06 | murb | if i really wanted it i could pay what i think it is worth, but if you do that i sometimes end up paying more than i would have otherwise. |
| 17:14.15 | jason_ukfsn | there's already a script to handle last minute bidding. Look in freshmeaat |
| 17:14.43 | jason_ukfsn | murb so long as you are paying a % of what you'd pay on Crucial.com it's not too bad |
| 17:15.02 | Cope | murb: what memory did you get, and for how much? |
| 17:15.06 | murb | jason_ukfsn: Crucial don't sell the memory i as after any more. |
| 17:15.21 | murb | Cope: an 2 x unbuffered edo 60ns 128mb dimms |
| 17:15.29 | murb | for my compaq smp box. |
| 17:15.36 | Cope | murb: cool - how much did you get them for? |
| 17:15.39 | murb | (which will be smp when i get the voltage regulatory thing) |
| 17:15.41 | murb | 26 quid |
| 17:15.44 | Cope | bargain! |
| 17:16.22 | murb | i lost an auction for 4 of them which by not being arround at the end, when for 41.50 my max was 40.50 |
| 17:16.36 | rhowe | EDO DIMMs must be pretty rare these days |
| 17:16.42 | Cope | My bargain hardware is growing - another box - p2-350(ish) 256M ram, cd-rw, 10G hdd - 10 quid |
| 17:17.48 | rhowe | s/Cruso/Crusoe/ |
| 17:17.50 | Cope | ooh |
| 17:18.15 | rhowe | Not bad for 800 quid I guess, although the copy of Windows XP is knocked off. S'what the CEO gets for buying kit of dubious origin in .hk |
| 17:18.50 | Tarragon | If your max of £40.50 got beat by £1 is sounds like a proxy bid that automatically outbids you until their max. They could have said £100 and you would have to keep bidding to beat it. |
| 17:19.46 | stephen | your monitor runs Solaris? |
| 17:19.49 | Cope | big_monitor++ |
| 17:20.11 | Tarragon | rhowe: will go blind |
| 17:20.31 | Cope | Woo! |
| 17:20.54 | rhowe | Tarragon: Yeah, but not from this - that'll be from my 14" monitors at home where text is blurred even at 800x600 |
| 17:21.20 | Cope | Leeds - very small box? |
| 17:21.40 | rhowe | Or very big foot? |
| 17:21.44 | Leeds | not particularly... but it's sitting on the floor, desktop-style, under my desk :-) |
| 17:22.21 | rhowe | Cope: Are you still unable to play MP3s? |
| 17:22.31 | Leeds | Ultra 60 to the left of me, Dell to the right... |
| 17:22.56 | rhowe | Leeds: Heh, no such hardware here, unfortunately.. 99% Compaq |
| 17:22.57 | Cope | rhowe: Yes, for now. May change upon arrival of new box. |
| 17:23.20 | Leeds | rhowe: there are a few HP boxes around here... |
| 17:23.33 | rhowe | Leeds: There are too old to be called HP :) |
| 17:23.39 | pawel | I will take one. ;-) |
| 17:23.47 | rhowe | Leeds: A few DL320's and two DL360's |
| 17:23.57 | Cope | Squeezable. |
| 17:23.59 | rhowe | Cope: With ethernet port? |
| 17:24.12 | Cope | rhowe: no, but with easy-wipe top! |
| 17:25.30 | rhowe | Leeds: I didn't until a couple of months ago, and even then I only know the ones for what we have.. DL320 is a 1U box, 360 must be about 4U I guess |
| 17:25.44 | Cope | Right - work. |
| 17:26.03 | rhowe | work? |
| 17:27.11 | rhowe | Cope: btw, I can't afford pub beer atm, but you're more than welcome to pop round to the flat in Hendon sometime for a can or few and a DVD |
| 17:50.31 | Leeds | hmm... |
| 17:56.15 | Cope | rhowe: That would be ace |
| 17:56.28 | rhowe | Hm |
| 17:56.43 | rhowe | Flatmate's getting tickets to some jazz club this weekend.. |
| 17:56.52 | rhowe | They better take cards :) |
| 17:57.11 | *** join/#gllug pie (~pie@82-68-20-246.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) |
| 17:57.17 | rhowe | mmm, pie |
| 17:57.40 | Leeds | ibot pie |
| 17:57.42 | | 3.1415926535897932384626433832795, or of the opinion that work is best done when pi$$ed |
| 17:58.22 | rhowe | wqoohoo |
| 17:58.44 | jason_ukfsn | Leeds: are they real CDs or discs that pretend to be CDs? |
| 17:59.23 | Leeds | jason_ukfsn: dunno - he's asked me to choose some off their website... if they're not real CDs - don't worry - I'll complain loudly :-) |
| 17:59.25 | pie | 'lo |
| 18:00.45 | Leeds | hmm... Warner are actually pushing the iTunes store on their front page |
| 18:02.07 | Cope | sed 's/want\'s/wants/' editors.html - I just get a > (presumably wanting more input) what am i missing? |
| 18:03.44 | Leeds | Cope: use "" around the command |
| 18:04.44 | Cope | leeds - instead of '? |
| 18:05.56 | Leeds | yup |
| 18:06.19 | Leeds | as a start, anyway |
| 18:07.30 | pie | I think I have got coldfusion working at work. |
| 18:07.44 | pie | I had to re-compile mod_coldfusion seperatly |
| 18:07.55 | pie | but it installs without errors now. |
| 18:10.13 | Leeds | yay |
| 18:12.55 | pie | woo |
| 18:15.47 | evangineer | hi pie |
| 18:16.02 | evangineer | did you download the sybase binaries? |
| 18:16.35 | pie | Yep, they installed on RH9 without a problem. |
| 18:16.45 | pie | 'lo evangineer |
| 18:16.52 | evangineer | excellent! |
| 18:17.06 | pie | I don't know how to configure the databases yet though, I have some research to do. |
| 18:17.38 | evangineer | let me know if I can give you a hand |
| 18:17.55 | pie | When I do a /'etc/init.d/sybase start' no processes get run, but I guess I may just have not configured it enough. |
| 18:18.01 | pie | evangineer: Thanks :-) |
| 18:18.16 | pie | that should have been '/etc/init.d/sybase start' |
| 18:20.18 | evangineer | did srvbuild run okay? |
| 18:23.23 | pie | Um, I don't know, all I have done so far is install from RPM and do a 'sybinstall' or whatever it is. |
| 18:23.36 | pie | ? |
| 18:23.38 | Leeds | "I would love to see London host the 2012 Olympic Games! Something for everyone to be proud of. One thing worries me though, how many overseas athletes would claim asylum upon arrival and disappear whilst in the UK only to reappear at our DSS offices?" |
| 18:23.56 | pie | kilroy-silk? |
| 18:24.20 | evangineer | pie: you need to run srvbuild after sybinstall. |
| 18:24.35 | pie | Aaah, that might be why then |
| 18:24.37 | pie | sec |
| 18:24.39 | Leeds | nope, just a random BBC message-boarder |
| 18:24.44 | pie | Ah. |
| 18:25.23 | Cope | leeds: ok " " around the sed argument - got some text on the screen, but the file hasn't changed. |
| 18:25.42 | evangineer | pie: when you ran sybinstall, did it startup a GUI? |
| 18:26.16 | Leeds | pie: but he has officially quit now... I guess he'll get a daily column in the Mail or something |
| 18:26.46 | pie | Leeds: ;) |
| 18:27.27 | Leeds | Cope: dunno, really... |
| 18:28.01 | pie | Arse, srvbuild is an X program... |
| 18:28.15 | evangineer | pie: yes |
| 18:28.22 | Cope | leeds: I thing sed "s/want's/wants/" < foo > foo works. |
| 18:28.27 | pie | Why the hell do companies insist on writing X installers for their f'ing databases. |
| 18:28.37 | evangineer | pie: did you read the article I pointed you to? |
| 18:28.43 | Leeds | they're all Java nowadays :-) |
| 18:28.43 | pie | Some ;) |
| 18:28.48 | Leeds | Cope: cool |
| 18:29.01 | pie | I haven't spent much time on sybase yet |
| 18:29.16 | evangineer | The article mentions about sybinstall and srvbuild. |
| 18:29.17 | pie | I was going to read it more before I tried to get it to work properly |
| 18:29.22 | pie | Ah, thanks |
| 18:29.38 | pie | I have really been concentrating on coldfusion. |
| 18:29.59 | evangineer | fair enough! |
| 18:31.09 | Cope | highbury: ping |
| 18:31.17 | Cope | ibot seen highbury |
| 18:31.28 | | highbury is currently on #gllug (2h 27m 15s) |
| 18:31.53 | evangineer | pie: did you get my email okay? |
| 18:34.16 | pie | Yes thanks, I will keep it safe incase we ever need help :) |
| 18:34.56 | evangineer | all I wanted to hear! ;-) |
| 18:36.02 | pie | hmmmmm. |
| 18:36.05 | pie | later |
| 18:37.04 | Leeds | good plan |
| 18:37.54 | jason_ukfsn | yeah - I just received confirmation of UKFSN's dialup revenue for December - over £250.00 |
| 18:38.02 | jason_ukfsn | What a surprise Cope! |
| 18:38.25 | Leeds | Cope: we *had* noticed that, you know |
| 18:38.44 | Leeds | jason_ukfsn: good stuff - beer on you next week then :-) it *is* supporting the community after all |
| 18:39.13 | jason_ukfsn | making the community failling down drunk. Hmm, I'm not sure that is what I had in mind when starting UKFSN |
| 18:39.50 | jason_ukfsn | I have to invoice the telco before the money actually arrives. I just have the stats. This is the first payment on dialup |
| 18:40.03 | Leeds | would take more than 250 quid to get all of GLLUG drunk... |
| 18:42.36 | Leeds | so is that more or less than you expected? |
| 18:48.05 | jason_ukfsn | it's a start. I have just managed to switch almost all UKFSN users to a new telco for dialup as it was proving impossible to reach the 100,000 minutes/month barrier to get paid anything at all with the other bunch. |
| 18:48.23 | jason_ukfsn | The contract with the new telco pays out from the start and at a higher rate so it's very good. |
| 18:49.07 | jason_ukfsn | It's still a small amount however it will grow as more people use the service and it costs nothing so it's all "profit". |
| 18:50.06 | jason_ukfsn | it should guarantee that I can write out a check with at least 4 figures before the . soon. |
| 18:50.42 | Leeds | I suppose I should really start using ukfsn rather than freeserve when I want to generate a 'throwaway' ISP account |
| 18:51.16 | Leeds | hmm... you do 128k ISDN for free? (metered) |
| 18:51.16 | jason_ukfsn | indeed you should ;) |
| 18:51.45 | jason_ukfsn | yes. The number is 0845 121 3852 |
| 18:51.59 | Leeds | too late now... I used about 100 hours of it over Christmas |
| 18:52.37 | pie | hmmmmmm. |
| 18:52.49 | jason_ukfsn | not a problem - just remember it for the next time you need dialup. If you don't need web/email with it just use signup/signup as the login |
| 18:53.11 | *** join/#gllug irvined (~irvined@home.irvined.co.uk) |
| 18:53.44 | pie | I use UKFSN for all dialup, nad our office uses UKFSN ADSL. |
| 18:54.05 | Leeds | very useful, thanks |
| 18:54.49 | jason_ukfsn | right, it's time to stop working(?) now. Enjoy your evening everyone. |
| 18:58.26 | Leeds | um... |
| 18:58.58 | Leeds | Jason is charging 25 quid to download a copy of his Worldpay module, which is also on CPAN... in fact, after paying, you get told where you can download it from... :-) |
| 18:59.19 | pie | Really? That is a bit steep... |
| 19:00.25 | Leeds | well, it's a minor con, since you can get exactly the same thing from CPAN for free... he *did* write it though |
| 19:00.40 | ar | what's it do? |
| 19:00.49 | Leeds | http://www.linuxconsultants.ltd.uk/software.html |
| 19:01.00 | pawel | :-/ |
| 19:01.20 | pie | Well, yes, but I mean, he could at least offer some support or something ;) |
| 19:01.47 | Leeds | he's a helpful chap :-) |
| 19:01.51 | pie | I knew it was on CPAN, I didn't know he was charging for it. |
| 19:01.55 | ar | it does say at the bottom that its available off CPAN |
| 19:02.20 | pie | http://search.cpan.org/~cliffordj/Business-WorldPay-Junior-1.07/Junior.pm |
| 19:02.21 | pie | yes |
| 19:02.30 | pie | I suppose. |
| 19:02.56 | pie | BRB |
| 19:03.06 | rhowe | +e |
| 19:04.00 | rhowe | Cope: I don't think you can just sed on a file.. have to redirect to $tmpfile and then mv $tmpfile $origfile, IIRC |
| 19:06.50 | Leeds | GNU sed has an edit-in-place option |
| 19:10.45 | rhowe | Leeds: Hm, nice. I should've noticed that |
| 19:11.10 | Leeds | what, it's nice that I'm still at work? Thank you very much |
| 19:11.20 | Leeds | :-) |
| 19:13.07 | Cope | Bryan Ferry post Roxy Music is over-rated. |
| 19:14.50 | rhowe | heh |
| 19:14.57 | rhowe | Cope: Beer? |
| 19:16.09 | Leeds | Solaris update proceeding nicely |
| 19:17.34 | Cope | rhowe: Not this evening... lots to do; next week would work though. |
| 19:17.52 | rhowe | Cope: OK, next week is good, especially Thursday+ |
| 19:18.39 | rhowe | Cope: Somewhere between London Bridge and Hendon would be good |
| 19:18.53 | zachary | Just a reminder: GLLUG is next saturday. Cope: Don't blow all that new dosh. |
| 19:19.03 | rhowe | Ach, so |
| 19:19.35 | Cope | zachary: I have no dosh yet! |
| 19:20.47 | Leeds | Cope: well hurry up and get paid! |
| 19:20.56 | rhowe | Cope: Have you seen Princess Mononoke (Mononoke Hime/ã‚‚ã®ã®ã‘姫), btw? |
| 19:21.42 | Cope | Ah! This is more like it!! Roxy Music. |
| 19:22.01 | Leeds | Rolling Stones |
| 19:22.10 | Cope | rhowe: no, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 19:22.10 | rhowe | Maiden |
| 19:22.20 | Leeds | Cope: lol |
| 19:22.44 | rhowe | Cope: Depends how big your TV screen is in relation to your breadbox |
| 19:22.58 | Cope | rhowe: Are you using windows? |
| 19:22.59 | rhowe | Leeds: It's good |
| 19:23.05 | rhowe | Cope: Nope |
| 19:24.04 | rhowe | Leeds: I liked Spirited Away more though |
| 19:24.09 | rhowe | Can't wait to get the DVD for that |
| 19:24.14 | Leeds | not seen that either :-( |
| 19:24.43 | Leeds | gregj: so do something? |
| 19:24.53 | gregj | i just finished work |
| 19:25.11 | gregj | i am tired of sitting in front of the computer all day long |
| 19:26.05 | rhowe | gregj: Sit in front of the TV? |
| 19:26.11 | gregj | :] |
| 19:26.13 | gregj | nope |
| 19:26.14 | gregj | no way |
| 19:26.26 | rhowe | Sit in front of a beer pump then :) |
| 19:32.17 | Cope | Not where gregj is - you'd need a small mortgage. |
| 19:36.34 | Leeds | right, I'm done |
| 19:45.10 | pie | owowowowowow, burny stingy toungue. |
| 19:45.23 | rhowe | chilli good |
| 19:45.51 | Cope | beer also good. |
| 19:46.05 | rhowe | Oh and the Gulin chilli sauce |
| 19:46.20 | rhowe | s/not to/\1o/ |
| 19:52.41 | pie | I made my own chilli sauce |
| 19:52.45 | pie | it was lethal |
| 19:53.11 | pie | Basically a couple of bags of green finger chillis, a packet of habaneros and some home grown ones. |
| 19:53.26 | pie | Pureed it and it is dangerous |
| 19:54.31 | pie | Anyone know how (if possible) I create a patch from two differing text files? |
| 19:58.39 | *** join/#gllug cupis (~paul@i-195-137-116-73.freedom2surf.net) |
| 20:00.09 | rhowe | pie: diff -u file1 file2 > file1-2.patch |
| 20:00.14 | rhowe | pie: Other than that? :) |
| 20:00.44 | pie | Ah, thanks, that got it. |
| 20:01.16 | pie | never created one before. |
| 20:01.48 | rhowe | Check I got it the right way round.. |
| 20:02.36 | *** join/#gllug Leeds (~richardc@host-212-158-207-148.bulldogdsl.com) |
| 20:07.23 | pie | diff -u newfile oldfile > old-new.patch |
| 20:07.44 | rhowe | ah |
| 20:17.52 | *** join/#gllug quinophex (~quinophex@81.168.125.171) |
| 20:26.16 | pie | arse arse arse |
| 20:26.51 | nasrat | pie: don't panic - have a beer |
| 20:26.51 | pie | I ram umap over the file I was trying to import and it removed about 30 bytes of data and still the import failed on a dodgy char! |
| 20:27.00 | pie | I am going to get another one now. |
| 20:27.32 | pie | I just sent some patches to steve rainwater, a maintainer of an OS ODP project, my first contribution! |
| 20:27.39 | pie | Yay! |
| 20:27.53 | pie | contribution to OSS that is |
| 20:28.02 | Leeds | ODP? |
| 20:28.04 | nasrat | pie: gratz |
| 20:28.12 | Leeds | oh |
| 20:29.32 | pie | Leeds: Oh Dee Pee |
| 20:29.35 | pie | ;) |
| 20:29.42 | pie | dmoz.org |
| 20:29.52 | pie | http://www.rainwaterreptileranch.org/steve/sw/odp/ |
| 20:30.44 | pie | nasrat: thanks |
| 20:33.29 | pie | Hmmmm, beer |
| 20:34.15 | pie | I bought 8 on my way home :-) |
| 20:34.21 | pie | Always plan ahead |
| 20:34.28 | quinophex | hehe |
| 20:34.30 | nasrat | ah I got some wine |
| 20:34.35 | pie | me too :-) |
| 20:34.40 | quinophex | i planned ahead and have mine in the fridge |
| 20:34.48 | pie | I don't think I will drink it all tonight though |
| 20:36.15 | pie | my perl always seems to work when I am pissed, but it is pretty unmaintainable |
| 20:36.22 | zachary | I don't get to drink tonight. Wife is still at work. Fricken kids are driving me nuts. |
| 20:36.53 | pie | You could staple them to the cieling. |
| 20:37.18 | quinophex | sell them on ebay |
| 20:37.30 | pie | Yeah |
| 20:37.46 | zachary | quinophex: I would have to pay someone to take them. Kinda leaves ebay out of the question unless you have negative bids. |
| 20:38.16 | quinophex | heh |
| 20:38.23 | pie | My wife is pregnant, I need to buy a stapler. |
| 20:38.39 | quinophex | describe them as "automated home wrecking androids" |
| 20:38.44 | pie | http://home.hellacool.co.uk/booboo/ |
| 20:38.45 | quinophex | that should get a few bids |
| 20:38.53 | zachary | you don't need a stapler just something to gag them with and a suitcase. |
| 20:39.16 | pie | cost a lot in postage though |
| 20:40.30 | pie | I certainly do |
| 20:41.05 | rhowe | mm, source-based policy routing |
| 20:41.16 | pie | what is that? |
| 20:47.11 | Leeds | woo, mini-pie |
| 20:47.31 | quinophex | prawn cocktail crisps here with more beer :D |
| 20:48.59 | pie | Leeds: Bah, go to the off-license |
| 20:49.18 | pie | quinophex: Yuk, PC crisps are gross. |
| 20:49.39 | Leeds | pie: good plan |
| 20:49.49 | Leeds | I hadn't thought of that :-P |
| 20:49.49 | pie | Yes, you know it makes sense |
| 20:50.21 | wethrin | agk: Thanks for the tickets :) |
| 20:50.33 | Cope | Ah! A wethrin! |
| 20:50.39 | wethrin | Hmmmmmm? |
| 20:50.48 | Leeds | wethrin: shouldn't you be at the pub? |
| 20:50.53 | wethrin | I already was |
| 20:51.15 | Leeds | then go back there! |
| 20:51.45 | quinophex | pie: PC crisps rule the universe |
| 20:51.55 | pie | Nonononono! no they don't! |
| 20:52.13 | pie | I used to prefer discos, but now i think I prefer beer. |
| 20:52.29 | wethrin | Politically Correct crispos |
| 20:52.29 | quinophex | beer + crisps |
| 20:52.30 | wethrin | *crisps |
| 20:52.35 | pie | Ooooh, no, roast beef and mustard flavour (brannigans). |
| 20:52.40 | wethrin | Mmmm. |
| 20:52.54 | pie | thay are the best |
| 20:53.24 | pie | Is that made from deer? |
| 20:53.43 | zachary | pie: Only if you lack any cooking skill what so ever. And opening a bag of crisps does not cound. |
| 20:54.36 | Cope | crisps are evil. |
| 20:54.45 | wethrin | Crisps++ |
| 20:55.01 | pie | crisps-- |
| 20:55.21 | pie | apart from BrannigansRoastBeefAndMustardFlavour++ |
| 20:55.21 | zachary | Homemade crisps. (olive oil and cajun seasoning!) |
| 20:56.28 | zachary | Thanks pie, you actually reminded me to take out a roast for the weekend. |
| 20:57.21 | pie | Well, you know, the world is a mess, I am just trying to make a little bit better than it was befer |
| 20:57.31 | pie | You don't have to thank me etc. etc. |
| 20:57.35 | pie | Um, NP. |
| 21:02.13 | pie | Anyone know if using place holders in an insert statement is faster than just using a $dbh->do($...) in all instances (perl)? |
| 21:18.53 | pie | Quiet in here... |
| 21:20.03 | quinophex | quiet everywhere |
| 21:20.11 | quinophex | thats because some people have "lives" |
| 21:23.43 | wethrin | LLives? |
| 21:25.09 | pie | Thank you quinophex, you may have a point, but you are here to make the point, so doesn't that include you? ;) |
| 21:26.17 | pie | Anyway, what makes talking on #gllug *not* a life? :) |
| 21:26.51 | quinophex | pie: i do not have a life as i just moved to the middle of nowhere |
| 21:27.00 | quinophex | i came onto irc tonight as i was being sad :) |
| 21:27.02 | pie | Some island? |
| 21:27.06 | quinophex | no |
| 21:27.07 | quinophex | even worse |
| 21:27.13 | pie | Mitcham? |
| 21:27.18 | pie | Liverpool? |
| 21:27.19 | quinophex | (i would have thought all of us were already on an island) |
| 21:27.21 | quinophex | no |
| 21:27.23 | quinophex | Norfolk |
| 21:27.30 | pie | Cluck. |
| 21:28.32 | Cope | Why is being on irc either sad or demonstrative of a lack of life? |
| 21:28.54 | pie | Quite. |
| 21:29.16 | pie | quinophex: Why norfolk? |
| 21:38.41 | wethrin | quinophex: You fosdemming? |
| 21:42.39 | quinophex | Norfolk because i have free rent here :) |
| 21:42.48 | quinophex | wethrin: i would go to fosdem if i had any money :) |
| 21:44.05 | wethrin | Ah. That's a no, then :-/ |
| 21:44.26 | quinophex | most likely |
| 21:45.39 | pie | I wouldmlove to go to fosdem, but I am skint also |
| 21:45.59 | wethrin | So do a Fosdem-on-the-cheap |
| 21:46.12 | pie | I haven't got enough for FotC |
| 21:46.19 | wethrin | Eurostar is currently £29.50 return (going out Friday 1042). And youth hostel is about 18EUR/night |
| 21:46.31 | pie | I am saving up for a baby. |
| 21:46.41 | pie | and a digital camera. |
| 21:46.50 | quinophex | hmmm, so thats about 29.50 + 32 quid + 36 euro that i don't have |
| 21:46.52 | wethrin | Do Amazon sell babies? :) |
| 21:46.54 | quinophex | not including beer and food |
| 21:47.11 | pie | beer = staple food. |
| 21:47.30 | wethrin | No. Paper is food for staples |
| 21:47.38 | quinophex | try telling that to my woman :) |
| 21:47.41 | quinophex | oh, that reminds me |
| 21:47.47 | pie | Cluck? |
| 21:47.51 | quinophex | i need to ask her about her pregnancy status |
| 21:48.00 | pie | Your woman? |
| 21:48.03 | quinophex | aye |
| 21:48.06 | quinophex | it should be |
| 21:48.11 | pie | I would hope you would have a bit of an idea... |
| 21:48.12 | quinophex | woman != pregnant |
| 21:48.26 | quinophex | well, its one of those things where you have to wait a bit |
| 21:48.31 | pie | Yes. |
| 21:48.35 | quinophex | coz it could be kinda new |
| 21:48.40 | quinophex | not quite sure of her status |
| 21:48.47 | quinophex | she doesn't have accurate log files ;) |
| 21:48.59 | pie | No nagios plugin. |
| 21:49.03 | quinophex | nope |
| 21:49.11 | pie | inconsiderate I say |
| 21:49.13 | quinophex | no SNMP interface either |
| 21:49.34 | pie | I tried but she didn't speak to me for a week. |
| 21:49.48 | quinophex | heh |
| 21:52.01 | wethrin | :) |
| 21:52.07 | wethrin | fortune is good if you're bored |
| 21:52.59 | wethrin | fortune | banned > /etc/motd |
| 21:53.09 | Cope | Eeek |
| 21:53.25 | wethrin | Obviously, banner |
| 21:53.32 | rhowe | http://www.siksai.co.uk/~rhowe/vpn/routefuncs |
| 21:53.41 | rhowe | bash is wonderfully versatile :) |
| 21:54.02 | Cope | gah |
| 21:54.07 | pie | You would have to be pretty bored to play with banner... |
| 21:54.11 | Cope | I don't have fortune on this solaris box. |
| 21:54.58 | wethrin | Well complains to Leeds :) |
| 21:55.28 | pie | Yeah, it is probably his fault ;) |
| 21:56.31 | wethrin | yes |
| 21:58.33 | rhowe | Hm, anyone in the Hendon area and hungry? :) |
| 21:59.08 | rhowe | Open for another hour |
| 21:59.56 | Cope | But you have bandwidth, so life is good. |
| 22:00.05 | wethrin | I have Dead Ringers on BBC7 |
| 22:00.22 | rhowe | I think it's about the same |
| 22:01.04 | Cope | more than an hour probably. |
| 22:01.09 | rhowe | Cope: You don't want to do that |
| 22:02.49 | quinophex | but of course you save work regulary |
| 22:02.57 | quinophex | so only lost 30 seconds of edits ;) |
| 22:04.55 | pie | Ooooh, Have I Got Old News For You is on TV |
| 22:05.18 | quinophex | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/default.stm |
| 22:05.21 | quinophex | whoah |
| 22:05.26 | quinophex | oooh |
| 22:05.26 | quinophex | i have a tv in here now |
| 22:06.44 | pie | Did you do this whilst typing on IRC? |
| 22:08.09 | quinophex | no it happened in the seconds before typing it |
| 22:08.32 | quinophex | i can't predict the future reliably ;) |
| 22:08.55 | pie | I hate SCO, I wish they would FOAD |
| 22:09.36 | quinophex | they don't make it easy to find a .uk phone no. to call them about licensing afaict :) |
| 22:09.53 | pie | I would not be sad if they all died in a freak yahtting acident. |
| 22:10.22 | pie | If you find a freephone number, let us know, we could saturate it. |
| 22:10.42 | quinophex | Tel: +44 (0)1707 226014 |
| 22:10.59 | pie | what is that number |
| 22:11.11 | quinophex | SCO's |
| 22:11.16 | pie | In the UK? |
| 22:11.21 | quinophex | apparently |
| 22:11.55 | quinophex | yeah it is |
| 22:12.03 | quinophex | 8.30 am to 6pm monday to friday |
| 22:12.07 | pie | damn |
| 22:13.05 | quinophex | will call them on monday mornin |
| 22:14.32 | Cope | Why? |
| 22:15.00 | pie | waste their time? |
| 22:15.07 | quinophex | aye |
| 22:15.12 | Cope | Good plan. |
| 22:15.14 | quinophex | want to discuss licensing options with them |
| 22:15.16 | quinophex | ;) |
| 22:15.33 | quinophex | wondering if we can claim against them for extortion either ;D |
| 22:15.44 | pie | I called them and left a message on their answering machine asking for someone to call me about licensing linux systems ;) |
| 22:16.04 | quinophex | but either way, if we got only 500 people to call them on monday and waste their time it would piss them off ;) |
| 22:16.26 | pie | Yes |
| 22:16.48 | pie | We can't legally set fire to them, so this is a reasonable alternative. |
| 22:17.21 | quinophex | and also cost them real cash |
| 22:17.27 | pie | Yes. |
| 22:17.56 | pie | The more times they have to call out about licensing the more money it costs them and the less money they get to spend suing us... |
| 22:18.20 | Cope | We could just all use bsd |
| 22:18.45 | pie | So only call after hours and ask them to get back to you, |
| 22:18.46 | pie | . |
| 22:18.56 | Cope | pie is using ed |
| 22:19.07 | pie | I am not, grrr. |
| 22:19.11 | Cope | . |
| 22:21.55 | rhowe | Cope: If you use ZZ to exit, there's not much danger of not saving :) |
| 22:30.11 | rhowe | hm, half an hour to order food.. |
| 22:31.19 | pie | Order now, you can't take the chance! |
| 22:32.08 | pie | Tink of your stomach! |
| 22:33.42 | Cope | pawel: use a large screwdriver and a hammer. |
| 22:33.50 | pawel | I have this model cover. |
| 22:34.20 | Cope | Is that the name of an 80s new romantic band? |
| 22:34.45 | pawel | :> |
| 22:35.03 | Cope | "And a new entry at number 7, its 'This Model Cover' and 'Think Pad' |
| 22:35.24 | pawel | ThinkHammer. :> |
| 22:35.43 | Cope | Naw, that was a peter gabriel rip-off. |
| 22:36.25 | pawel | any, I should use better tools. :-/ |
| 22:36.33 | pawel | s/any/anyway/ |
| 22:37.52 | pawel | I'm using only big screwdriver and kitchen knife. |
| 22:38.15 | SpudULike | Wethrin: Eurostar to Brussels - £29.50 is the single fare. You got me all excited for a minute! |
| 22:39.13 | wethrin | And it's £39.50 now |
| 22:39.24 | wethrin | And £40 on the Sunday evening return |
| 22:39.35 | wethrin | Still. It's good that I've got the half-price return voucher |
| 22:39.41 | wethrin | Have you booked the yoof hostel yet? |
| 22:40.45 | SpudULike | "... return voucher ... Mmmmm ..." |
| 22:41.24 | SpudULike | No, I will wait until Wednesday until I make a decision. Coach tickets will need to be booked Wed as well. |
| 22:42.50 | wethrin | Okay |
| 22:43.01 | SpudULike | Hotel booked? |
| 22:43.38 | wethrin | No. I might do YH |
| 22:43.38 | Cope | s/ed/es/ |
| 22:43.44 | wethrin | Feeling cheap |
| 22:43.56 | SpudULike | Wethrin: Yeah! |
| 22:44.04 | Cope | SpudULike: hello |
| 22:44.09 | SpudULike | Hi Cope. |
| 22:44.39 | pie | 'lo |
| 22:44.45 | wethrin | :) |
| 22:44.52 | Cope | You lucky lot... best I'll get this year is a London Linux Expo |
| 22:45.03 | SpudULike | John, Jason and me are deff. going. Two others pendng. |
| 22:45.24 | wethrin | Excellent :) |
| 22:45.36 | wethrin | I've got a friend who'd like to go |
| 22:45.50 | SpudULike | What's stopping them? |
| 22:45.50 | Cope | You have a friend? How did this happen? |
| 22:46.24 | pie | wethrin: Does it cost a lot? |
| 22:46.27 | Cope | (that's what my dad always used to say to me) |
| 22:46.32 | pie | I hear they eat a lot. |
| 22:46.53 | Cope | friends? dads? John, Jason and Colin? |
| 22:47.07 | pie | freinds. |
| 22:47.10 | Cope | Ah |
| 22:47.16 | wethrin | Cope: I blame Uni |
| 22:47.17 | SpudULike | And Colin's! |
| 22:47.20 | wethrin | SpudULike: He *might* be in Moscow |
| 22:47.30 | wethrin | pie: It costs a bit. |
| 22:47.36 | SpudULike | wethrin: Lame excuse! |
| 22:47.38 | Cope | echo $BIT |
| 22:47.40 | wethrin | Heh. |
| 22:47.56 | wethrin | 18EUR/night for Yoof Hostel. About £80 for Eurostar |
| 22:48.00 | wethrin | Plus beer |
| 22:48.28 | SpudULike | pie: Were you asking about the cost of keeping friends? |
| 22:49.16 | pie | yes |
| 22:49.52 | Cope | Evidently keeping friends is contigent on them staying in youth hostels, going on the eurostar and drinking beer. |
| 22:50.13 | SpudULike | Can cost you more losing them! |
| 22:50.56 | wethrin | You're not allowed to call him |
| 22:51.02 | SpudULike | Cope: Not so, friends understand others needs. |
| 22:51.26 | pie | wethrin: what do you mean? |
| 22:51.35 | SpudULike | With the exception of drinking beer, obviously! |
| 22:51.37 | wethrin | You're not allowed to call Jason when he's in Brussels |
| 22:51.39 | wethrin | He said :) |
| 22:51.42 | pie | Oh |
| 22:53.13 | SpudULike | If Jason got lost in Brussels I'm sure the authorities would soon find him again for us. It's not like they'd want to keep him! |
| 22:53.24 | pie | Heh ;) |
| 23:11.29 | pawel | eh, for one stupid fan I must to remove all must of components and motherboard. |
| 23:11.51 | pawel | s/"all must/must/ |
| 23:12.21 | pawel | now i really hate thinkpads. |
| 23:14.17 | Cope | thinkpads are good |
| 23:14.45 | pawel | not in service. imho. |
| 23:15.42 | pawel | i saw toshiba, dell, hp and some of the .tw noname laptops. |
| 23:15.48 | pawel | inside. |
| 23:15.59 | Cope | inside where? |
| 23:16.30 | pawel | inside laptops. :) |
| 23:16.34 | pie | stinkpads |
| 23:16.50 | pie | we have a box at work labeled 'stinkpad manuals' |
| 23:17.22 | pie | I have an acer personally, it is pretty good apart from the linux incompatible winmodem. |
| 23:17.44 | wethrin | Mo......dem? |
| 23:17.48 | pawel | it's my personal computer and I must to buy new fan, because computer doesn't want to start. |
| 23:18.14 | wethrin | You're in luck. Tomorrow are the computer fair.s. |
| 23:18.40 | pie | Yes yes yes, I know, so last century, but I need one when I go home, my parents and parents in law only have this 'analoguie' thing I have to use. |
| 23:19.04 | pie | The onboard NIC works fine |
| 23:19.47 | pawel | hm, you think I will find a single fan to Thinkpad 600x there? :) |
| 23:20.02 | pie | Yep, but only in another stinkpad |
| 23:22.39 | pawel | yeah. ;-) I'm trying to imagine a seller face when I will ask to remove a fan from his laptop. :) |
| 23:28.34 | pie | rhowe: What is cheap love? |
| 23:28.51 | Cope | ibot google for cheap love |
| 23:28.58 | rhowe | Cope: biiig mistake |
| 23:29.17 | rhowe | pie: Japanese drama series |
| 23:29.18 | pie | rhowe: I was just thinking about that |
| 23:29.21 | pie | Ah |
| 23:29.38 | pie | ibot google for hot bacon |
| 23:30.04 | pie | ibot google for pork sword |
| 23:30.44 | rhowe | ibot google for "cheap love" juni nanami ryo |
| 23:31.09 | rhowe | fneh |
| 23:31.23 | pie | ibot is a lamer |
| 23:31.25 | | wish i knew, pie |
| 23:31.30 | pie | quite |
| 23:31.36 | pie | ibot ibot |
| 23:31.37 | | ibot is, like, a blootbot now, no longer an infobot. run by BZFlag (TimRiker) on his server. see blootbot also http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ it uses SQLite but can use MySQL or other SQL for storage. eliza's boyfriend. Enemy of SCOBot |
| 23:31.42 | rhowe | ibot google for "cheap love" nanami |
| 23:31.50 | rhowe | There |
| 23:32.41 | pie | Looks cool |
| 23:32.58 | rhowe | certainly different |
| 23:33.22 | pie | If a little 'home and away' |
| 23:33.50 | rhowe | Home and Away with a pr0n theme |
| 23:33.59 | pie | Ah, cool |
| 23:34.13 | pie | Like nude HandA then. Definatly up for that |
| 23:34.13 | rhowe | But really more of a love story than anything else I guess |
| 23:34.21 | rhowe | Nah, not nude |
| 23:34.35 | pie | Except the old priest guy, or was that neibors? |
| 23:34.41 | pie | I can't remember. |
| 23:34.54 | Cope | ibot purify |
| 23:34.56 | | Cope: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 23:35.06 | rhowe | hahaha he goes to the races but doesn't gamble |
| 23:35.32 | rhowe | heh, the look on Nanami's face is priceless |
| 23:35.33 | pie | ;) |
| 23:36.00 | pie | classic |
| 23:36.37 | rhowe | Cope: #define many |
| 23:36.43 | pie | me too, the wife turned my desktop on so I had to turn the stereo up. |
| 23:37.04 | Cope | rhowe: um... 5 or 6? |
| 23:37.27 | rhowe | Cope: You need more than 10 in a box before you really know noise |
| 23:37.36 | pie | Ouch |
| 23:37.49 | rhowe | Cope: http://www.siksai.co.uk/gallery/mybaby/ |
| 23:37.51 | pie | I got a cheap case with a rattly fan. Big mistake |
| 23:37.56 | rhowe | ugh |
| 23:38.07 | pie | last time I do that |
| 23:38.09 | rhowe | rattly fans need binning |
| 23:39.07 | pie | I unplugged the really rattly case fan, CPU didn't rise too much in temp so I left it. |
| 23:39.32 | pie | I abuse the CPU a fair amount and it has survived. |
| 23:39.37 | Cope | pic 10 is cool |
| 23:40.08 | Cope | pic 16 spoils it |
| 23:40.38 | rhowe | heh, it's not like that box has run Windows in a long long time |
| 23:40.51 | rhowe | They sent me a window sticker, so I had to put it on a Window somewhere... |
| 23:41.10 | Cope | hmm |
| 23:41.14 | pie | Someone elses window? |
| 23:41.33 | pie | I usually use them in amusing places, like rubbish bins. |
| 23:41.40 | rhowe | The CPU fans are different now actually.. the heatsinks are square |
| 23:41.51 | pie | Pic 12 is cool |
| 23:41.57 | rhowe | I caught my finger in one and knocked it off-centre, so I replaced them both |
| 23:42.00 | pie | really cool |
| 23:42.25 | rhowe | Not focussed enough |
| 23:42.29 | pie | can I take 12 and use it as wallpaper? |
| 23:42.34 | rhowe | If you like |
| 23:42.52 | pie | ta |
| 23:43.47 | pie | my 4Mb gfx card on my laptop is really struggling ;) |
| 23:44.22 | rhowe | 13 would've been good if it was more in focus |
| 23:44.28 | pawel | rhowe, is there any Windows XP on your laptop? :) |
| 23:44.50 | rhowe | pawel: -ENOLAPTOP |
| 23:44.56 | rhowe | pawel: There's Linux on my iPAQ though.. |
| 23:45.10 | rhowe | Installed by the guy who runs the familiar project, no less |
| 23:45.51 | Cope | OMG! Can I touch it? |
| 23:46.01 | pawel | hyhy. |
| 23:46.02 | rhowe | haha |
| 23:46.20 | rhowe | Nice picture of Sarah.. (the one not wearing the wedding dress) http://www.siksai.co.uk/gallery/Chans-Wedding/DSCF0023?full=1 |
| 23:46.57 | pawel | rhowe, but big point for you, I saw Quake cd. :) |
| 23:47.16 | Cope | Intense trees and stuff. |
| 23:47.37 | pie | Cool pic, nice trees |
| 23:47.46 | rhowe | pawel: I think that's an empty case actually... the CD is somewhere, and I keep seeing it and forgetting to reunite it with its case |
| 23:47.47 | pie | Sarah looks very tall ;) |
| 23:48.02 | rhowe | pie: She's about 5'8 or so I guess.. pretty much the same as me |
| 23:48.19 | rhowe | Bonus points that she used ^H :) |
| 23:48.32 | pie | Sarah++ |
| 23:49.04 | pie | Does she know? |
| 23:49.09 | rhowe | Nope |
| 23:49.15 | Cope | http://wibbleworld.fotopic.net/photo.php?id=1108077 |
| 23:49.16 | pie | go rhowe! |
| 23:49.42 | pie | females seem to go all funny whe you propose. |
| 23:49.43 | rhowe | pie: Well, I don't know what she'll say actually, not after what happened on the 29th Dec |
| 23:49.55 | pie | Ooooh, what happened then? |
| 23:50.17 | rhowe | pie: A friend of mine climbed into bed and we, er, well.. Sarah is not happy. |
| 23:50.21 | Cope | http://wibbleworld.fotopic.net/photo.php?id=1108405 |
| 23:50.31 | Cope | pie: And he was ugly too. |
| 23:51.08 | pie | Ah, um, uh, OK, well, um. Er, well then. |
| 23:51.12 | rhowe | Cope: That's you with the nips? |
| 23:52.04 | pie | nipples? |
| 23:53.25 | rhowe | pie: Anyway, so Sarah is not best pleased |
| 23:53.42 | pie | Ah, yes, I can imagine that, I guess grovelling might be in order. |
| 23:54.02 | Cope | http://wibbleworld.fotopic.net/photo.php?id=1108414 |
| 23:54.40 | Cope | All of these are while she was pregnant, btw - I've got a few post-william pic that I'm putting on my webserver at some stage. |
| 23:56.20 | rhowe | http://www.ipv6peer.net/froze.jpg |
| 23:56.26 | pie | http://photos.hellacool.co.uk/will-and-wenna-wedding/during_the_service/0007.jpg.html |
| 23:56.31 | pie | me and the wife |
| 23:57.33 | rhowe | Cope, pie: Nice pictures |
| 23:57.36 | pie | ta |
| 23:57.46 | pie | Not my bset side. In any of them. |
| 23:57.51 | rhowe | "The new, fatter, rhowe" |
| 23:58.21 | rhowe | ahh |
| 23:58.29 | pie | My wifes dad was the vicar. Took me by surprise. |
| 23:58.39 | rhowe | lol |
| 23:58.45 | pie | rhowe: what a lie ;) |
| 23:59.04 | pie | life I mean |
| 23:59.18 | Cope | Indeed! |
| 23:59.23 | rhowe | Stupid woman!! |
| 23:59.34 | nasrat | pie: the vicar *took* you ;) |
| 23:59.37 | Cope | I'm off to bed to cuddle Hui, William and read a book about shell scripts. |
