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00:06.10pawelLeeds, I would like to test something like that in my home.
00:06.16pawelanyway, night.
00:06.31Leedspawel: it's very easy - just follow the streaming instructions from their howto
00:07.50pawelsleep 2000 && killall -9 xmms && shutdown -h now
00:07.51pawel;-)
00:08.04pawelcya.
00:08.21Leedsg'night
00:15.36pawel15 7 * * *   xmms trance96k.pls
00:15.51pawel8-)
00:15.53Leedsdropped into his IRC channel, asked for help, commented on the code, he agreed with my comments and went to commit a fix... wants to know how I'm controlling the TiVo from tvtime so he can write it up for the website :-)
00:16.48pawelmy morning. :-)
00:16.55Leedsyour morning?
00:17.01stephenhehe pawel
00:17.36Leedsah
00:17.39Leedsmorning stephen
00:17.40pawelLeeds, cron. :)
00:17.51stephenhiya Leeds
00:24.36Leedsthat works really well
00:29.03wethrinbedtime. g'night
00:29.14new2unixwethrin: nn
00:30.54Leedsnight all
17:11.45*** join/#gllug ibot (ibot@c-24-1-99-18.client.comcast.net)
17:11.45*** topic/#gllug is Greater London LUG. Next meeting: Saturday 24th January, Web Site: http://www.gllug.org.uk
17:13.54formiibot: why the hell are you back?
17:13.57formi: what are you talking about?
17:14.20jason_ukfsnibot: why did you return to this channel?
17:14.24It had to be done.
17:15.00jason_ukfsnibot abuse http://www.mujmac.cz/art/hw/tatra_mac_eng.html
17:15.08ACTION smacks http://www.mujmac.cz/art/hw/tatra_mac_eng.html across the face. "Take that, Bitch!"
17:16.09Leedsoh, there is a discount for FOSDEM for the hotel!
17:16.34jason_ukfsnho much discount? I'm only paying about £13/night
17:16.34murbis it a discount, or is it a "special price"
17:16.51murbjason_ukfsn: agedhostel?
17:17.32Leedsit's 80 EUR per night rather than 100... still not for people doing it cheaply
17:18.27murbanyway everyone should save their money and come geeksking instead.
17:19.26formimurb: stop being a bofhs
17:20.17jason_ukfsnmurb: pretty much yes. We're throwing some people out of an old people's home nearby and using their rooms for the weekend.
17:20.26murbhehe :)
17:21.01jason_ukfsngeeksking would give me broken bones and would cost me a lot more. FOSDEM is going to cost me £90 plus beer (and a little food I suppose)
17:22.23formijason_ukfsn: look it in another way, you could see murb braking his bones!!
17:22.55jason_ukfsnalas murb turned out to be a very good skier - probably because he's totally blind when sking
17:23.21formibeer and ski?
17:23.51jason_ukfsnno - he doesn't wear his glasses although I suppose the plentiful beer may also explain things.
17:24.28formiwhat will the insurance guys say when he claims?
17:25.14anthjason_ukfsn could spend nothing on food by taking advantage of the daily nutritional reuquirements being met by 2 glasses of full cream milk, one glass of orange juice, and 47 pints of Guiness, or so the story goes
17:26.13formihaha
17:27.38jason_ukfsnformi: they'll tell him to sod off - the cover was invalidated by [random excuse]
17:28.21jason_ukfsnanth: I don't like guiness and 47 pints is just a bit much anyway - I'm fairly sure a modest meal will cost less than 40 pints of $whatever
17:29.21Leedsout of interest, anyone around coming back from Brussels on the monday on the train in the evening?
17:29.42jason_ukfsnnot me - I'm returning Monday lunchtime
17:30.17Leedsif I'm having the day off, I might as well spend all of it in Brussels
17:30.23formijason_ukfsn: I can see your point
17:30.43Leedseh, the 1856 will do me fine
17:31.42jason_ukfsnI need to be back here in case there is any work needs doing for UKFSN.
17:32.18jason_ukfsnI'm going to install a new server and have it configured to replace the other UKFSN ones in case anything goes wrong.
17:32.48jason_ukfsnquote from my wife just now: all computer people are perverts
17:32.50anthI don't like Guinness either, but its chosen for the liquid diet because it has more of various minerals than most beer
17:33.41Leedsjason_ukfsn: yes, we are
17:33.41formijason_ukfsn: I shall not ask what were you doing
17:33.48Leedsanth: apparently that is a lot less true than it was
17:34.21jason_ukfsnI was sitting here typing a response to a support request.
17:44.07formijason_ukfsn: you might tell the wife, fiddling with the modem is not what it seems
17:45.46Leedstrain is booked...
17:48.20formi"In a memo issued on Wednesday, Sun's software executive vice-president Jonathan Schwartz said his company is firmly committed to a wholesale move from the Microsoft desktop -- possibly in the next six months -- and is prepared to help IBM do the same.
17:48.24formi.
17:48.33formibeing cheeky hey?
17:48.45Leedsvery cheeky... I quite like it :-)
17:49.08formiand could use the chance to sell them a few old sparcs?
17:49.41Leedssell them anything... I think the point really is to say clearly that what they're talking about, or maybe not talking about, is something we're just getting on and doing
17:50.27formii got that idea
17:50.57anthhttp://www.sun.com/aboutsun/media/features/js-linux.html
17:52.44jason_ukfsnas opposed to publicly getting one over on IBM?
17:56.38murbis Apple going to help as well?
17:57.02murbthey could do it under a banner of "increase your hardware costs"
17:57.22formibut get shinny laptops
17:57.48murbturn the office into a cinema!
17:58.22formiand they can't run windows
17:59.17jason_ukfsnturning the office into a cinema would work for me
17:59.40murbformi: well you brick them up to stop light getting in.
18:01.34formicheap bricks? what an idea!
18:29.27Leedshttp://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0974458902/qid=1074882459//ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/104-7093979-3635905?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
18:36.32JDdamn I need beer
18:36.40JDibot: seen Jenson?
18:36.42jenson <~jenson@hermes.eco.li> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 8d 5h 16m 5s ago, saying: 'Jenson > London'.
18:36.53JDibot: seen jenson?
18:36.54jenson <~jenson@hermes.eco.li> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 8d 5h 16m 17s ago, saying: 'Jenson > London'.
18:37.10murbhas jenson been wiped out of existance?
18:37.13JDhmmm so where is she?
18:37.19JDseems that way
18:37.29JDanyone heard from/of her in the last week?
18:37.49wethrinJD: coming to Gllug tomorrow?
18:38.06JDyes
18:38.07murbJD in London? Never
18:38.27murbshocking!
18:38.27JDmurb: yes
18:38.35JDI was in london recently
18:38.40JDwel just after christmas
18:38.43murbJD: did they pay you for that?
18:38.46JDbut that is in the last month
18:38.55murbJD: do you ski?
18:38.56JDmurb: well they paid me ot go to uxbridge
18:39.06JDmurb: much like you did last year aiui
18:39.25murbuxbridge isn't really london.
18:39.27JDmurb: they didn;t pay me ot go shoppin gafter I replaced the PSU
18:39.41JDmurb: closer than I normally am
18:39.48JDit is inside the M25
18:40.26murbJD: geekski?
18:40.41murb(just so it can be yo uthis year)
18:40.41JDmurb: not sure
18:40.43JDI doubt it
18:40.54JDI need to save money for after summer
18:40.58murbnegociated it into your new contract.
18:41.02jason_ukfsnJD I believe Jenson started a job  this week
18:41.07wethrinJD: Back to educashon?
18:41.26JDjason_ukfsn: *faint*
18:41.26murb$company will pay the full costs of skiing in Hintertux, and time off work.
18:41.42JDmurb: who's company?
18:41.43Leedsjason_ukfsn: we knew that... but still - she hasn't been seen in over a week
18:41.54wethrinjason_ukfsn: How does Jenson get a job when there's still plenty of unemployed around here?
18:42.01JDwethrin: you know how
18:42.08JDwethrin: hopefully
18:42.09murbJD: your one i thought?
18:42.09jason_ukfsndon't worry folks I'm sure she'll be along tomorrow to keep you all company ;)
18:42.13JDI have my forms sitting here
18:42.24JDjason_ukfsn: that is what worries me
18:42.28murbJD: well fill them in and post them off.
18:42.30wethrinJD: Does that work, then? ;-)
18:42.46JDI'm bringing an ex-gf with me
18:42.52JDwethrin: does what work?
18:42.53murbJD: use /ignore on her then
18:42.54JDI'm confused
18:43.07wethrinGetting a job in a Jenson-fashion
18:43.14jason_ukfsnif she's an ex what's the problem?
18:43.17murbmake up some t-shirts that say #gllug \n /ignore jenson
18:43.18wethrinJD: Bringing ex-gf to Gllug?
18:43.26JDmurb: not very useful if jenson hugs/<something worse> me in front of the ex
18:43.35JDwethrin: still good friends
18:43.44wethrinBut is she single? :)
18:43.44jason_ukfsnJD I repeat my question
18:43.46JDwethrin: I've never tried getting a job that way
18:44.05murbJD: so wear spiky anti hug wear.
18:44.13murbno don't, it might encoursge her.
18:44.13wethrinmurb: She'd enjoy that more
18:44.17JDjason_ukfsn: it is easier if I don't upset her
18:44.18jason_ukfsnmurb:  that's not a good idea as she likes that more
18:44.25JDhmmm
18:44.32wethrinGet Jason to hug JD in front of ex-gf
18:44.39jason_ukfsnLOL!
18:44.49JDwethrin: hmmm not sure that will have the desired effect either
18:44.54jason_ukfsnHow about I hug your ex-gf?
18:44.55murbget ex-gf to hug jenson in front of dpash
18:45.01JDmurb: ffs
18:45.07murbJD: what?
18:45.09JDmurb: jenson will be up for that
18:45.24JDmurb: I'm not dpash and haven't been for at least 8 months
18:45.29murbJD: jpeg so we can send her in the right direction?
18:45.32Leedsmurb: who's dpash?
18:45.40wethrin"I'm not dpash and neither's my wife"
18:45.44murbJD: sorry, tab completion doesn't work in the end of linese afaik
18:46.14JDit does murb
18:46.19Leedswethrin: I am, however, Brian...
18:46.32murbok well we'll have to make you a t-shirt with !DPASH
18:46.46jason_ukfsnno, I'm brian
18:46.47JDwethrin: you will like Dawn, she is a mac geek in training
18:47.04JDno I'm brian
18:47.06murbJD: do you know about fosem or not?
18:47.08LeedsJD: she's Scottish?
18:47.20JDmurb: havent had chance to talk to my boss yet
18:47.23wethrinJD: Excellent :)
18:47.28wethrinBut, is she single? ;-)
18:47.29JDI hope to still go, but not sure when I will be going
18:47.33JDwethrin: well yes
18:47.38murbJD: well when you have that meeting bring an ice pick.
18:47.38JDbut are you?
18:47.39wethrinw00t!
18:47.50wethrinIf I wasn't, I wouldn't need to ask :)
18:47.54murb(and explain what you'll do if he doesn't also let you go skiing)
18:48.03JDwethrin: oh what happened to the merkin?
18:48.16JDmurb: I can't afford to go skiiing this year
18:48.20wethrinFinished many months ago
18:48.22JDwhy do you want me to go?
18:48.26wethrinI thought you knew that
18:48.27JDwethrin: oh right
18:48.28wethrinbye Leeds
18:48.31JDnope
18:48.33wethrinAh.
18:48.42Leedsto burn *entirely legal* CDs for jason_ukfsn
18:48.44jason_ukfsnJD - he wants you
18:48.45wethrin:) So Dawn is attractive + single, eh?
18:48.58murbshould i invite http://foto.pho.be/photo.php?id=672026 these people to another gllug thing?
18:49.23JDapparently jenson has been busy at work
18:49.34wethrinmurb: Am I supposed to know who they are?
18:49.37JDI obviously missed the bit where she moved in with costa
18:49.51murbwethrin: obviously.
18:49.52jason_ukfsnshe broadcast it on channel a lot
18:49.59JDwethrin: she still has a thing for me
18:50.11wethrinJD: Jenson? Or Dawn?
18:50.12jason_ukfsnalthough she did prepend each message with a "Is JD here? No? good..."
18:50.13murbJD: we will get jenson to fix that.
18:50.22JDwethrin: both?
18:50.25wethrinmurb: Err....who are they, then? :)
18:50.26murbwethrin: they were at gllug.
18:50.54murbi want to know who keeps looking at the top photo in my album
18:51.10wethrinFood's ready!
18:51.17JDgah I want food
18:51.20jason_ukfsnis that a bit or a bite?
18:51.22JDwethrin: GIVE ME FOOD
18:51.27wethrinjason_ukfsn: both
18:51.41JDw00t
19:08.20jason_ukfsnwell it's time to be "family man" for the evning. Have fun folks and remember...
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19:17.11Leedsokay, I was unfair to the DVD rental place...
19:20.55wethrinOh?
19:21.02wethrinShould I listen to some Tom Lehrer?
19:21.18Leedsthe
19:21.41wethrinthe?
19:21.53Leedsthe DVDs did arrive - I'm not sure it it was yesterday or today... I have a mailbox full of crap and mail for previous residents.,.. I didn't notice them until this evening
19:22.00Leedsand yes, you should
19:22.16wethrinCool. Right.
19:23.21wethrinHokay. "That Was The Year That Was"
19:23.30Leedswas it?
19:23.39wethrinIt's on now :)
19:39.20wethrinibot nslookup
19:39.28wethrinibot nslookup dl.eco.li
19:39.38wethrinHmm.
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19:42.55pawelre.
19:43.08wethrinre
19:45.00pawelhi wethrin.
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19:51.09pie_Hello!
19:54.38wethrin'lo
19:55.01pie_:)
19:55.30pie_I am just waiting for the latest multiplayer version of Return to Castle Wolfenstein to download
19:55.35wethrincool
19:57.28pie_I have to do this before eastenders starts so I can immerse myself in a game to avoid the skull crunching dullness of that crappy program
19:57.37pie_My wife watches it.
19:58.07stephenheh
19:59.48wethrinHeh :)
20:00.48pie_Oh no!  It has started and I still have 20 minutes left of the download!  Help!
20:00.57wethrin:)
20:01.02wethrinBoom boom boomboomboomboom
20:09.55Xiaoqihello!
20:10.23pie_hello!
20:10.36Xiaoqihows you?
20:10.59*** join/#gllug evangineer (~evanginee@spc1-seve3-4-0-cust13.lond.broadband.ntl.com)
20:15.04pie_OK, but I only have 2 minutes to talk, ret.to castle wolf. has nearly downloaded ;)
20:16.16pie_'lo evangineer.  Do you know have any odea why it might not be possible to connect to a newly set up sybase server?
20:17.08pie_netstat -al shows it listening, and isql connects on the box, but the developer can't connect from the win32 application he uses
20:20.52pie_later
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20:24.46RobertMEvening all
20:24.51Leedsevening
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20:29.48RobertMquiet here again
20:30.05wethrinYes.
20:30.06RobertMI see Ibot made it back online
20:31.04Leedsyes
20:31.07wethrinGrrr. I need to unplug my PC speaker. This requires diving under the desk
20:31.10Leedsformi doesn't like him...
20:31.18RobertMyeah I noticed :)
20:31.19wethrinNeither does murb
20:31.41RobertMbots are ok, but there is no reason to log the contents of the channel
20:32.51wethrinI don't think you can stop ibot logging, can you?
20:33.18RobertMone would expect it's simply an option
20:33.34wethrin"It's the old Dope Peddlar, with his powdered happiness"
20:33.49RobertMhuh?
20:35.18Leedshe's a fellow everyone knows, all right
20:35.59wethrinYep
20:36.37LeedsRobertM: it's a song...
20:42.22wethrinAnyone want a Lucent Winmodem?
20:44.08Leedsno
20:48.27wethrinI think my CD player lens needs cleaning
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21:08.48wethrinHm. I still could do with a SCSI CD-Rewriter. I'll swap for an IDE one.
21:09.54LeedsI've got a hard drive on one channel, and a DVD (primary) and CDRW (secondary) on the other...
21:10.24LeedsI'm currently ripping a DVD from the DVD drive to the hard drive, and burning a CD (over NFS no less!) at the same time
21:11.31Leedsstrangely enough, the CDRW is having a little trouble keeping up
21:12.06Leedswhy do you want a SCSI CDRW?
21:12.20wethrinBecause I'd like to have a fully SCSI machine
21:12.41LeedsI'd be pretty happy to have hard drives on SCSI and CDRW on IDE
21:12.57pawelwethrin, I can take for my friend.
21:13.20wethrintake?
21:14.13pawelok, you want to sell it? then how much.
21:14.56Leedspawel: wethrin wants a SCSI CDRW
21:15.23pawel<wethrin> Anyone want a Lucent Winmodem?
21:15.38pawel:-)
21:15.39Leedsah, that
21:15.40wethrinAh. You can have that.
21:16.28wethrin(if you want to buy me a beer in the pub, that'd be nice ;-) )
21:17.05pawelhehe, ok.
21:17.07pawel:-)
21:19.42wethrinHm. I've just been coerced into meeting a friend pre-Gllug, with beer and pie.
21:20.00Leedswho's beer?
21:22.18pawelLeeds, somewere in neighbourhood?
21:22.59Leedspawel: what?
21:23.09wethrinA pub's beer.
21:23.17pawelno no, fair.
21:23.30Leedscomputer fair, across the road from GLLUG
21:25.03pawelLeeds, OK. then I can meet there with you, after that we will go together to GGLUG.
21:25.31Leedspawel: you want to go to the fair?
21:25.50pawelyes, I'm interesting about that.
21:26.03Leedsyou do know what it is, right?
21:26.15pawelnope. :-)
21:26.22Leedsit's a market
21:26.31Leedshardware, software, consumables..
21:26.52pawelyes, i know, but i don't know were it is.
21:27.06pawelwere I should to meet with you.
21:27.08Leedsit's across the road from GLLUG :-)
21:27.28paweli never been there.
21:27.31pawel(gllug)
21:27.36Leedsyes, I know...
21:27.51Leedsyes, I know...
21:27.53pawel;-P
21:27.53Leeds:-)
21:28.20wethrinpawel: so, winmodem for you, yes?
21:28.56pawelwethrin, with double chips i fanta please. ;-)
21:29.01pawels/i/and/
21:29.05pawelgosh.
21:30.16wethrinHeh
21:31.30pawelLeeds, how early you would like to be there?
21:38.16Leeds1130, maybe
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21:48.24Leedspawel: ?
21:49.36Leedsmmm... soup
21:52.31pawelLeeds, for me OK, can you give me your mobile no? via msg.
21:52.59Leedspawel: actually, I may need to be there earlier...
21:54.17Leedslike... 11am?
21:54.47Leedscan you aim to be at the BT tower at 11am?
21:55.05pawelsure. I will be there.
21:55.08pawel:-)
22:00.34wethrinHm. 10pm means HIGNFY time
22:01.32murbbother
22:02.50zacharybrb
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22:03.23LeedsI seem to be getting they think it's all over
22:04.04Leedsand/or BBC news!
22:05.30Leedsbah, repeat