| 00:00.02 | Tarragon | I did learn how to tell the difference between 3.3V AGP cards and 1.5V ones |
| 00:00.18 | Marios_ | ohh |
| 00:00.27 | Marios_ | yeah I had trouble with motherboards before |
| 00:00.35 | Marios_ | what kind of motherboard did you get ? |
| 00:01.27 | Tarragon | I am sure the manual was written by someone who had never seen a computer before. |
| 00:01.51 | Tarragon | Supercheap ASRock K7s8XE |
| 00:02.16 | Marios_ | ohh ok |
| 00:02.31 | Marios_ | i always uses Asus |
| 00:05.29 | Tarragon | I looked at an Asus but it was £16 more for almost the same spec. I decided I could do without the SP/DIF output so went for the cheaper option |
| 00:08.28 | Tarragon | I spent the extra on memory only to find out that they had given me the wrong type. I wanted 333 and they gave me a stick of 400 |
| 00:16.29 | Marios_ | ohhh cool |
| 00:16.43 | Marios_ | what CPU are you gonna you ? |
| 00:16.49 | Marios_ | what CPU are you gonna use? |
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| 00:41.17 | gregj | fuck |
| 00:42.02 | Marios_ | what ? |
| 00:42.14 | gregj | line goes down over and over again |
| 00:42.28 | Marios_ | dial up? |
| 00:43.21 | gregj | nope |
| 00:43.22 | gregj | ADSL |
| 00:43.33 | gregj | tthere is fax on this line as well |
| 00:43.34 | Marios_ | ohhh |
| 00:43.39 | gregj | that's ccausing problems, possibly |
| 00:43.43 | Marios_ | probably |
| 00:43.51 | Marios_ | are you in London ? |
| 00:45.15 | gregj | this line is somewhere in SW england |
| 00:45.29 | gregj | this is just a server |
| 00:48.08 | gregj | hmm |
| 00:48.25 | gregj | why the hell Intelij IDEA tells me that |
| 00:48.28 | gregj | true == error |
| 00:48.31 | gregj | is better than |
| 00:48.32 | gregj | error == true |
| 00:48.33 | gregj | or |
| 00:48.47 | gregj | something.equals("1") |
| 00:48.49 | gregj | should b |
| 00:48.49 | gregj | e |
| 00:48.58 | gregj | "1".equals(something) |
| 00:49.07 | gregj | I don't get it |
| 00:50.41 | Marios_ | I don't like IDEA |
| 00:50.47 | Marios_ | I prefer Netbeans |
| 00:59.22 | gregj | hmm |
| 00:59.25 | gregj | I like IDEA |
| 00:59.26 | gregj | it's nice |
| 01:01.33 | gregj | bbut just like all java software, it eats memory very quickly |
| 01:04.38 | Marios_ | I know... |
| 01:04.49 | Marios_ | I get used to netbeans... |
| 01:11.38 | gregj | but you don't have (probably) code inspector in netbeans |
| 01:13.33 | Marios_ | nope |
| 01:13.49 | Marios_ | are you working as Java programmer? |
| 01:18.11 | gregj | yes |
| 01:18.28 | gregj | I am doing security checks of java/C/C++ code |
| 01:18.41 | gregj | currently looking for new job :-) |
| 01:18.56 | gregj | this contract is due |
| 01:19.47 | gregj | to be finished |
| 01:19.52 | gregj | expire :-) |
| 01:31.06 | Marios_ | ohhh |
| 01:31.24 | Marios_ | how easy is to get a contract ? |
| 01:35.00 | gregj | not very easy |
| 01:35.04 | gregj | since I am Polish |
| 01:35.22 | Marios_ | it doesn't matter that you are Polish |
| 01:35.29 | gregj | now I am looking for pernament employment |
| 01:35.36 | Marios_ | I am moving in London soon |
| 01:35.45 | Marios_ | and I will probably seek some contracts as well |
| 01:35.49 | gregj | I am living here already |
| 01:35.54 | Marios_ | cool |
| 01:36.00 | Marios_ | I am from Cyprus |
| 01:36.02 | gregj | for 2 years now |
| 01:36.21 | Marios_ | are you in London? |
| 01:36.29 | gregj | yes |
| 01:36.43 | Marios_ | so what do you think about the job market ? |
| 01:37.42 | gregj | not too many offers |
| 01:38.00 | Marios_ | hmm |
| 01:38.12 | Marios_ | does it help if I have a Master or not ? |
| 01:38.15 | gregj | I am looking through agencies now for month or so |
| 01:38.19 | gregj | and no answers |
| 01:38.25 | gregj | probably does |
| 01:38.32 | gregj | I am not very highly educated |
| 01:38.40 | Marios_ | hmmm |
| 01:38.46 | Marios_ | do they ask you for degree ? |
| 01:39.10 | gregj | sometime |
| 01:39.11 | gregj | s |
| 01:39.15 | Marios_ | I see |
| 01:39.21 | Marios_ | let's make a company ;) |
| 01:39.39 | Marios_ | and provide some services |
| 01:39.40 | gregj | ;] |
| 01:40.05 | gregj | that will be fine, and I would do that if I will have at least one customer |
| 01:40.16 | Marios_ | lol |
| 01:40.29 | gregj | otherwise founding company and than looking for customers doesn't make too much sens |
| 01:40.33 | gregj | unless you're rich |
| 01:40.53 | Marios_ | company=fill the legal papers and a good website |
| 01:40.55 | gregj | i'm rather poor |
| 01:41.06 | Marios_ | I didn't say open headquarters in the City |
| 01:41.09 | gregj | yeah |
| 01:41.19 | gregj | but website won't give you customers |
| 01:41.35 | Marios_ | we will contact companies and help them to move to open source |
| 01:43.14 | gregj | I tried that already, with my friend here |
| 01:43.25 | gregj | without any great sucesses |
| 01:43.36 | Marios_ | really ? |
| 01:43.54 | Marios_ | companies do not want to move ? |
| 01:44.04 | gregj | providing that we had limited resources, time |
| 01:44.08 | gregj | no |
| 01:44.13 | gregj | they rather stay with M$ |
| 01:44.17 | Marios_ | ohhhh |
| 01:44.23 | Marios_ | this is stupid |
| 01:44.29 | gregj | well.. |
| 01:44.40 | Marios_ | the thing is to start and switch a small company |
| 01:44.46 | Marios_ | and use it as example |
| 01:45.04 | gregj | all my friends that have companies, don't want to switch |
| 01:45.08 | gregj | they like m$ |
| 01:45.11 | Marios_ | lol |
| 01:45.18 | gregj | it works for them,, they have no reasons to switch over |
| 01:45.30 | Marios_ | they don't care about the money they spend ? |
| 01:45.45 | gregj | they don't spend any |
| 01:45.51 | Marios_ | how come ? |
| 01:45.54 | gregj | well |
| 01:45.58 | gregj | you're buying computerr/laptop |
| 01:46.01 | gregj | with OS on it already |
| 01:46.04 | gregj | so you don't care |
| 01:46.10 | gregj | servers aree running linux already |
| 01:46.14 | Marios_ | ohhhhhh I see |
| 01:46.17 | gregj | because I am supporting this linux |
| 01:46.17 | gregj | :;-) |
| 01:46.25 | Marios_ | hmm |
| 01:46.45 | Marios_ | so is it easy at least to get a computer related job? |
| 01:46.57 | Marios_ | I need something to start with |
| 01:47.54 | gregj | we have growing number of unemployed ppl in GLLUG |
| 01:48.07 | Marios_ | bad :( |
| 01:48.16 | gregj | I don't want to worry you, but from where I stand it doesn't look promissing |
| 01:48.25 | Marios_ | hmmm |
| 01:49.10 | Marios_ | anywayz I gotta go now...thanx for the hints |
| 01:50.25 | gregj | n/p |
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| 08:51.35 | murb | moin |
| 08:54.20 | morsing | morning |
| 08:58.39 | JD | hi |
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| 09:45.50 | George`ZzZz | hey mozrat |
| 09:47.30 | mozrat | hello |
| 09:50.11 | George`ZzZz | mozrat: I got it working |
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| 09:56.59 | George | hey Leeds |
| 09:57.38 | Leeds | morning |
| 09:59.52 | ar | hi everyone |
| 10:00.06 | George | hi ar |
| 10:00.29 | ar | what's the general consensus on having seperate /boot partitions? |
| 10:00.41 | George | well, I use them on x86 |
| 10:00.45 | George | not on PowerPC though |
| 10:01.37 | ar | i've always thought that it was a good idea, however, some of the mroe senior ppl in #gentoo seem to be discouraging it |
| 10:02.02 | George | no 1 rule: don't listen to anyone at Gentoo |
| 10:02.35 | ar | there are those that know what their doing - but i accept your statement for the general case |
| 10:02.45 | George | heh |
| 10:03.46 | ar | i bet most of the other distributions are breathing sighs of relief as gentoo manages to attract all the new users that have no idea what they're doing! |
| 10:04.04 | George | ar: oh god, don't tell me about it |
| 10:04.25 | George | ar: some idiot at school decided "yeh, I'm going to run Linux to be uber leet, and I'm going to run Gentoo because it's uber leet" |
| 10:04.49 | George | I was on IRC with him for about 16 hours trying to help him before he gave up after failing 3 install attempts and reformatting his drive. |
| 10:05.15 | ar | lol |
| 10:05.33 | George | fucking idiot. |
| 10:05.49 | ar | i had problems the first time i installed gentoo and since then, touch wood, i've had no trouble whatsoever |
| 10:06.06 | George | heh |
| 10:07.34 | George | I don't think I had any trouble |
| 10:08.57 | George | ok, we have.. a problem. |
| 10:11.58 | evangineer | my first day or so of gentoo was hard going. seem to be finding my way now. still prefer slackware though. |
| 10:12.58 | George | if ip_address == "": |
| 10:13.02 | George | Is that valid in Python? |
| 10:13.55 | George | apparently it is |
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| 10:14.46 | George | wb mozrat- |
| 10:14.55 | mozrat- | Sorry George you were saying |
| 10:14.58 | mozrat- | it works! |
| 10:15.01 | George | yes! |
| 10:15.08 | mozrat- | cool -- which part |
| 10:15.22 | mozrat- | DNS, or the script? |
| 10:16.28 | George | well |
| 10:16.31 | George | both |
| 10:16.43 | mozrat- | excellent |
| 10:16.43 | George | I found a bug though |
| 10:16.47 | George | just ironed it out |
| 10:16.51 | mozrat- | cool |
| 10:17.01 | ar | if you need to change dns entries, it might be worth running bind-dlz then you just need to make a db query |
| 10:17.09 | George | I ended up using a quick and dirty hack to replace the contents of the file. |
| 10:17.16 | George | ar: hrmm? |
| 10:17.25 | mozrat- | do you want to send me back the script so I can see how you did it? |
| 10:17.28 | ar | it allows the dns entries to be stored in an sql database |
| 10:18.04 | ar | its not as quick as standard bind, but it will work for what you want it for. |
| 10:18.28 | ar | it also means you have a good way to change records as they can have unique ids in the db |
| 10:19.30 | George | ar: well, I have this working now. |
| 10:19.55 | ar | not really worth changing then :) |
| 10:31.14 | mozrat- | Hmmm, I need to get shockwave working in Firefox |
| 10:58.01 | anth | going back to the boot partition question: the need for them to cope with problems with the hardware, but I think I'll start using them again soon so that I can use LVM for the rest of the system |
| 11:00.02 | anth | um, that should have been "theres seldom a need for them to cope with problems with the hardware anymore" |
| 11:00.44 | Tarragon | I use a boot partition but that is because originally booting systems needed to be below 1024 sectors and I have just never changed. |
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| 11:04.21 | ar | does a seperate /boot partition help guard against corrupted data in the / partition? |
| 11:05.08 | murb | ar: well /boot can be the only partition that is readable by the bootloader. |
| 11:05.30 | murb | then the rest can be part of a raid that doesn't have to be understdnable to the bootloader, just the initrd stuff in the /boot |
| 11:05.38 | George | if a mail gets sent to my and my mail exchange is down |
| 11:05.40 | George | what happens? |
| 11:05.42 | George | does it just get delayed? |
| 11:05.44 | George | or does the message disappera? |
| 11:05.46 | George | *disappear |
| 11:06.00 | murb | George: it is delayed, and may be dropped after a while. |
| 11:06.13 | murb | if you think you site me downsome time it would be an idea to get another MX for your machine. |
| 11:06.17 | murb | s/machine/domain/ |
| 11:06.21 | George | murb: after how long? |
| 11:06.37 | murb | George: user configurable, but the mta that it is queuing on. |
| 11:06.52 | George | k |
| 11:06.54 | murb | George: do you have a static IP? |
| 11:06.57 | George | no9 |
| 11:06.59 | George | no |
| 11:07.03 | George | dynamic IP allocation |
| 11:07.16 | George | and with a really funky dns setup |
| 11:07.29 | murb | George: ok, i'll warn you doing that you are doing can be dangiouers. |
| 11:07.44 | murb | if your connection goes down, someone else gets your IP, dyndns will still be pointing at bad ip atleast for a while. |
| 11:07.51 | murb | and someone else could recive your email or bounce it etc. |
| 11:08.03 | George | right. |
| 11:08.06 | murb | for you setup it might make sense to queue all your email to an mx someplace with a decent connection. |
| 11:08.17 | George | like where? |
| 11:08.21 | murb | then have it deliver to your dynamic dns thing, but with tls and certification verification. |
| 11:08.41 | George | I don't want to pay for an mx |
| 11:08.53 | murb | George: like some kind person who might do it for free. |
| 11:09.09 | George | anyone here? :) |
| 11:09.15 | murb | I couldn't comment :) |
| 11:09.49 | George | murb: I'm switching to a static IP in a couple of months anyway |
| 11:10.12 | George | murb: and I'm unlikely to use this email address much anyway |
| 11:10.56 | murb | George: so you don't really need any MX then :) |
| 11:11.03 | George | murb: well, it's useful |
| 11:11.05 | George | ;) |
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| 12:41.40 | George | mozrat-: ok, I had to make another modification |
| 12:41.42 | George | mozrat-: I had to add -t 1 to the wget line. |
| 12:41.44 | George | mozrat-: or it went into an infinite retry loop |
| 12:44.51 | wethrin | Morning |
| 12:45.31 | George | eyup wethrin |
| 12:47.25 | George | if I change the authoritative DNS servers for a domain, how long does it take for the change to propagate? |
| 12:47.38 | wethrin | Up to 24 hours |
| 12:47.44 | George | hrmm, that long? |
| 12:48.12 | wethrin | Well, root nameservers only tend to be updated every 12-24 hours. I think .uk is similar |
| 12:48.18 | George | if you dig www.gwright.org.uk, is it still a CNAME pointer? |
| 12:49.14 | sjw | the nameservers for .uk set a 48 hour TTL on records iirc |
| 12:49.44 | George | hrmm |
| 12:52.55 | wethrin | Yeah |
| 12:53.03 | murb | wethrin: you are not on nom-tech are you? |
| 12:58.27 | wethrin | Nope. Would there be any reason for me to be unless I'm a tag holder? |
| 13:08.32 | murb | you have to be a member, not a tag holder. |
| 13:11.06 | wethrin | Ah. Well, I'm not a member either |
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| 14:23.47 | Leeds | wikipedia really is rather good... |
| 14:29.18 | new2 | Boo |
| 14:29.23 | new2 | Heh |
| 14:30.02 | new2 | ping Leeds |
| 14:33.45 | Leeds | pong |
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| 14:48.13 | wethrin | Bleh |
| 14:50.35 | Leeds | foo |
| 14:54.00 | morsing | Anyone going for a drink on Friday? Or Saturday? |
| 14:54.51 | Leeds | with our argentinian friend? |
| 14:54.55 | morsing | yeah |
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| 14:57.20 | Leeds | possibly... |
| 14:59.49 | wethrin | I have a morning exam, so won't be in London in the afternoon/evening |
| 15:02.26 | murb | morsing: possibly. |
| 15:03.30 | morsing | How about Saturday? |
| 15:08.15 | George | ibot: nslookup www.gwright.org.uk |
| 15:08.22 | George | ok. |
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| 15:18.29 | wethrin | *grumble* |
| 15:18.44 | wethrin | I'm not doing pubs until after exams |
| 15:19.33 | George | hehe |
| 15:28.33 | morsing | Does anyone know where I can buy the tools and ingredients to make japanese food? |
| 15:29.29 | George | http://www.geeksoc.org/~jr/suse-linux-91.jpg |
| 15:29.32 | George | isn't that nice? :) |
| 15:31.07 | wethrin | ? |
| 15:31.17 | George | heh |
| 15:31.20 | George | suse 9.1 |
| 15:31.23 | wethrin | Not really, no. It's the personal edition |
| 15:32.16 | George | it's the prerelease press copy. |
| 15:32.25 | George | honestly, we tried to get the pro :) |
| 15:33.41 | wethrin | But 9.1 is already out |
| 15:33.46 | George | bah |
| 15:33.49 | George | shush ;) |
| 15:34.43 | wethrin | So it's nothing special |
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| 15:50.17 | armijn | 'lo. |
| 16:07.53 | evangineer | hey armijn |
| 16:08.01 | armijn | hiya |
| 16:08.17 | evangineer | do you know about http://utonium.5uper.net/codedcultures/ |
| 16:09.01 | armijn | nope |
| 16:09.20 | evangineer | there's also http://www.oekonux-conference.org/ |
| 16:09.44 | evangineer | I working with some of the people involved with these events and am going to wien |
| 16:09.54 | evangineer | s/I/I'm/ |
| 16:10.23 | evangineer | should be interesting, I'm looking forwards to it. |
| 16:10.52 | evangineer | apparently I'm being roped in to do a presentation though! ;-) |
| 16:11.01 | armijn | heh |
| 16:11.54 | armijn | in german? ;-) |
| 16:12.47 | armijn | nein nein! |
| 16:13.03 | evangineer | fortunately some of the presentations are in english |
| 16:13.10 | armijn | not too many |
| 16:13.54 | evangineer | enough that I can get away with doing the same! ;-) |
| 16:15.06 | George | hrmm |
| 16:15.13 | George | gcses in two weeks |
| 16:15.18 | George | and I haven't started revising yet |
| 16:15.31 | armijn | george: you're going to fail soooo hard |
| 16:15.45 | George | obviously :) |
| 16:16.19 | armijn | you'll end up shoving pizzas in your face, surfing the internet for pr0n and IRC |
| 16:16.28 | George | heh |
| 16:16.38 | armijn | but maybe you'll do the same if you pass... |
| 16:17.54 | armijn | dinnertime... |
| 16:18.05 | JAV | evangineer: are you going to talk in the conference? |
| 16:19.32 | evangineer | JAV, not sure yet but it looks like it! |
| 16:20.15 | JAV | about? |
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| 16:21.53 | wethrin | Hum |
| 16:23.55 | morsing | hum hum mmmm |
| 16:24.23 | JAV | my deutsch is even worst than my english |
| 16:26.25 | evangineer | Is there anyone knowledgeable about the impact of Godel on Computer Science/Cryptography etc around? |
| 16:27.39 | morsing | What's the name of that thing on a ferry that opens in the front so the cars can drive in? |
| 16:27.46 | JAV | uumm that sounds "criptonomicon" to me :D |
| 16:30.03 | evangineer | JAV, talk will probably be about social software, complementary currencies and building community. |
| 16:30.13 | evangineer | something along those lines |
| 16:30.59 | JAV | things like orkut maybe? |
| 16:32.12 | evangineer | somewhat similar |
| 16:32.36 | JAV | ok |
| 16:34.36 | evangineer | Godel argument over and we won! ;-) |
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| 17:27.58 | murb | wethrin: it was free. |
| 17:30.02 | wethrin | Indeed. They're actually quite rarely down for this long (> 1 hour so far) |
| 17:30.29 | murb | it is probably also experimental. |
| 17:30.45 | wethrin | Yes, it is. |
| 17:30.46 | murb | it could even have been planned maintance? |
| 17:30.47 | wethrin | BT Exact being the R&D arm of BT |
| 17:30.49 | murb | do they have a status page. |
| 17:31.03 | wethrin | NAFAIK. |
| 17:31.09 | murb | wethrin: just because they do R&D it doesn't make everything they do flaky, although this is BT... |
| 17:31.42 | wethrin | No, but it means they're more likely to be playing around with new and interesting things, which may adversely affect existing systems |
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| 19:09.48 | mozrat | wethrin, yes |
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| 19:11.05 | mozrat | sigh... |
| 19:26.52 | mozrat | Leeds, I bought Safari! |
| 19:29.20 | murb | a? |
| 19:30.24 | wethrin | Safari is free |
| 19:30.38 | wethrin | Download it from Apple.com |
| 19:30.54 | mozrat | O'Reilly safari |
| 19:31.00 | wethrin | Ah |
| 19:31.10 | mozrat | Leeds, mentioned it earlier |
| 19:31.26 | mozrat | and I need to read a few different books |
| 19:45.27 | Leeds | glad you like it :-) |
| 19:53.30 | Leeds | mozrat: by the way... I should point out that I have Safari access from work for free ;-) |
| 19:58.34 | Leeds | and confusingly... that's the name of our internal bug tracker at work |
| 20:00.45 | mozrat | Leeds, I think my work might pay for it also, they normally expense tech books if they are relevant |
| 20:00.52 | Leeds | cool |
| 20:00.54 | mozrat | i.e. not Userfriendly.org |
| 20:01.31 | mozrat | to a room with hardly any natural light ;-( |
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| 20:19.25 | zachary | evening |
| 20:20.52 | morsing | Zach, have you booked your tickets yet? |
| 20:22.16 | mozrat | hi zachary |
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| 20:43.46 | mozrat | hello George |
| 20:44.11 | George | heya mozrat |
| 20:47.03 | Leeds | George: tell me... does everyone board at your school? |
| 20:49.33 | George | Leeds: yes |
| 20:50.17 | Leeds | oh, fair enough - I was wondering as I drove home this evening, and there's a point where I can see the hill on the horizon, and I was wondering why you'd be boarding at what is almost a local school |
| 20:50.36 | George | heh |
| 20:50.41 | George | 20 minutes drive |
| 20:51.01 | Leeds | exactly |
| 20:52.11 | mozrat | George, what is the schools name? and url? |
| 20:56.53 | George | mozrat: Harrow School |
| 20:56.57 | George | mozrat: http://www.harrowschool.org.uk |
| 20:58.01 | Marios_ | is it boarding school only for boys ? |
| 20:58.06 | George | yes |
| 20:58.09 | Marios_ | how can you survive ? |
| 20:58.33 | mozrat | George has a well developed right arm! |
| 20:58.56 | Marios_ | lol |
| 20:59.03 | Marios_ | ohhhhh that wasn't nice |
| 20:59.07 | George | mozrat: you sick shit |
| 20:59.08 | George | :) |
| 20:59.46 | Leeds | I'm sure they all help each other out, in the name of brotherhood and all that |
| 20:59.53 | George | ... |
| 20:59.58 | George | sod off |
| 21:00.56 | Marios_ | are there coed boarding schools ? |
| 21:01.19 | Leeds | yes |
| 21:01.27 | George | ibot: nslookup gwright.org.uk |
| 21:01.32 | George | wow |
| 21:01.32 | George | !!! |
| 21:01.33 | mozrat | dvd time.... bbl |
| 21:01.34 | George | it works!!!! |
| 21:01.35 | George | :D |
| 21:01.43 | Leeds | mozrat: what you wanting? |
| 21:01.49 | Leeds | George: yes, DNS is wonderful... |
| 21:01.51 | George | the authoritative DNS servers have changed |
| 21:01.56 | mozrat | The Transporter, leeds |
| 21:02.02 | murb | mozrat: is he left handed? |
| 21:02.05 | Leeds | ah, never seenit |
| 21:02.30 | mozrat | Leeds, its a little ott, but a good watch |
| 21:02.41 | mozrat | and has a British lead actor |
| 21:02.57 | Leeds | cool |
| 21:04.42 | mozrat | George, I've found the correct way to change a string in a file using Python if you want to update your script |
| 21:05.27 | George | thanks |
| 21:05.30 | George | but I'm no longer at home |
| 21:05.41 | George | so I don't want to screw around with a system that barely works :) |
| 21:05.48 | mozrat | ah.. |
| 21:05.50 | mozrat | you have broadband at school?? |
| 21:05.50 | George | when I have no physical access to the box |
| 21:05.51 | George | heh |
| 21:05.58 | George | 3Mbit pipe |
| 21:06.11 | murb | George: in both directions? |
| 21:06.14 | mozrat | The school provide that or is it your own? |
| 21:06.14 | George | yes |
| 21:06.20 | murb | or asymetir.c |
| 21:06.25 | George | mozrat: school provide it |
| 21:06.29 | mozrat | Wow |
| 21:06.42 | mozrat | is the access restricted? |
| 21:06.45 | George | yes |
| 21:06.51 | mozrat | but you can do IRC? |
| 21:06.59 | murb | no he has to be very bad to irc. |
| 21:06.59 | mozrat | that sounds a little iffy |
| 21:07.11 | George | mozrat: httptunnels with ssh and proxy servers running at home |
| 21:07.25 | mozrat | heh... |
| 21:07.32 | murb | George: i take it they don't read logs. |
| 21:07.42 | George | murb: no :P |
| 21:07.55 | murb | do they block https? |
| 21:08.01 | George | murb: yes |
| 21:08.08 | murb | really? |
| 21:08.09 | murb | why? |
| 21:08.10 | George | yes. |
| 21:08.18 | George | because people were using it as a gateway to porn |
| 21:08.20 | murb | how do you buy stuff? |
| 21:08.29 | George | they have a whitelist of https sites that are allowed |
| 21:08.33 | George | they're blocked by default. |
| 21:08.45 | murb | so they white list some stuff? |
| 21:08.49 | mozrat | so how does your HTTP tunnel work if they run a whitelist |
| 21:08.59 | murb | mozrat: well presuably only for https. |
| 21:08.59 | George | mozrat: I got them to whitelist my domain. |
| 21:09.07 | mozrat | sorry, re-read that one |
| 21:09.10 | murb | George: so you can do https to your domain? |
| 21:09.12 | George | mozrat: so my domain isn't affected by content filtering |
| 21:09.12 | mozrat | only https |
| 21:09.25 | George | murb: no, i'm not on the https whitelist. just the whitelist for no content filtering :) |
| 21:09.27 | murb | George: so you could run a proxy.. |
| 21:09.34 | George | murb: which is exactly what I do. |
| 21:09.36 | George | :) |
| 21:09.43 | George | I have a proxy that I tunnel through ssh |
| 21:09.44 | mozrat | isn't that a shit policy then? |
| 21:10.06 | murb | mozrat: i epxect people pay lots of money to make the corruption of their children someone elses problem... |
| 21:10.17 | mozrat | So really the whole school could (and probably do) proxy through your home |
| 21:10.29 | murb | mozrat: that would be stupid. |
| 21:10.32 | murb | only George wants access. |
| 21:10.32 | George | mozrat: no, they can't |
| 21:10.42 | George | mozrat: because it's done via ssh :) |
| 21:10.52 | George | mozrat: and nobody else has access to my ssh server |
| 21:10.53 | mozrat | yeah, but if george was feeling generous.... |
| 21:11.02 | murb | George: do they give you recursive dns? |
| 21:11.13 | Leeds | well we all know Rupert and Alex browse porn over George's connection |
| 21:11.41 | George | Leeds: Rupert is standing behind me... he's just read what you wrote and burst out laughing :) |
| 21:11.54 | mozrat | George, you could sell unrestricted web access to your fellow students |
| 21:12.05 | George | mozrat: no, I couldn't |
| 21:12.37 | George | mozrat: because everyone else in the school has to do it via remote login to a windows terminal server |
| 21:12.58 | mozrat | how are you different?? |
| 21:13.06 | George | mozrat: the IT dept like me. |
| 21:13.13 | mozrat | lol... |
| 21:13.24 | Leeds | George: so they don't know you? |
| 21:13.29 | George | Leeds: well |
| 21:13.31 | George | Leeds: they trust me |
| 21:13.41 | Leeds | ha ha ha |
| 21:13.52 | George | Leeds: Rupert just said he wanted to borrow my stuffed Tux for "sexual purposes" |
| 21:14.05 | wethrin | How clueless are they? |
| 21:14.13 | George | wethrin: what do you mean "clueless"? |
| 21:14.16 | George | I'm not complaining :) |
| 21:14.57 | wethrin | Well...trusting you |
| 21:15.16 | George | heh |
| 21:15.17 | George | why? |
| 21:15.30 | Leeds | considering how much work you seem to put into getting around their restrictions |
| 21:15.41 | wethrin | Yeah |
| 21:15.44 | murb | George: on a scale of 0 to George how clueless are they? :) |
| 21:16.03 | George | Leeds: I don't put that much work in. |
| 21:16.25 | wethrin | murb: That's not much of a scale, is it? :) |
| 21:17.00 | murb | wethrin: well if they are looking over his shoulder they might think wethrin is quite clueful. |
| 21:17.27 | Leeds | murb: nah, that's Rupert... his... 'dormmate' |
| 21:17.36 | mozrat | considering all the news about school children wandering off with people they meet on the net, if the IT dept are allowing this to happen they must be a little reckless |
| 21:17.37 | wethrin | murb: ? |
| 21:17.38 | George | I don't have a dorm mate... |
| 21:18.02 | Leeds | George: you have a private room??? |
| 21:18.57 | George | Leeds: yes |
| 21:19.03 | George | Leeds: have you never seen the photos? |
| 21:19.20 | Leeds | yeah, probably |
| 21:19.40 | George | http://www.gwright.org.uk/images/school1.jpg |
| 21:19.45 | George | http://www.gwright.org.uk/images/school2.jpg |
| 21:23.14 | Marios_ | George paint your CD Drives |
| 21:23.22 | George | Marios_: no |
| 21:23.39 | Marios_ | I have almost the same case |
| 21:23.46 | Marios_ | with white CD Drives |
| 21:23.52 | Marios_ | and I hate it |
| 21:24.49 | wethrin | Paint them green |
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| 21:28.45 | Marios_ | I will get a black DVD writer |
| 21:29.08 | wethrin | Simpsons++ (even now) - "On the advice of our lawyers, we swear we have never heard of a musical based on the life of Eva Perón" |
| 21:29.17 | George | uhm |
| 21:29.33 | George | What port does a mail exchange work on? |
| 21:30.17 | mozrat | grep smtp /etc/services |
| 21:30.47 | wethrin | Or 25 if you can't be bothered to look it up |
| 21:31.19 | mozrat | give a man a fish......... |
| 21:31.40 | Leeds | set a man on fire... |
| 21:36.29 | George | odd, my mail hasn't come through |
| 21:36.42 | George | ah, working now |
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| 21:49.52 | George | http://www.gwright.org.uk/images/kombattux.jpg |
| 21:57.14 | wethrin | Grrr. How can I find what processes are battering the hard drive? |
| 21:58.46 | wethrin | Ahm. It's Bittorrent, checking a file |
| 21:58.49 | George | hehe |
| 22:24.54 | wethrin | Grrr. ADSL modem crashed |
| 22:32.49 | rhowe | They do that |
| 22:33.23 | wethrin | First time that it's actually done that, IIRC. |
| 22:42.13 | rhowe | First time for everything :) |
| 22:42.24 | wethrin | Yeah, it all sucks :) |
| 22:43.04 | mozrat | nn |
| 22:43.08 | wethrin | nn |
| 22:43.53 | Leeds | rhowe: good weekend? |
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| 23:14.08 | wethrin | nn all |
| 23:14.56 | Leeds | night |
| 23:17.19 | rhowe | Leeds: Not bad - almost no problems with the trains, despite doing London -> (train) Leicester -> pub -> (train) Derby -> (car) Stratford Upon Avon -> cottage.selling -> [Sunday] (car) Warwick Parkway -> (train) Paddington -> (tube) West Hampstead -> (train) Hendon |
| 23:17.52 | rhowe | Leeds: The West Hampstead -> Hendon train was a bit b0rk, but in the words of the driver, he "pushed a few buttons and twiddled a few knobs, and it's working now" |
| 23:18.01 | Leeds | heh |
| 23:18.19 | rhowe | See gllug-social re possible beermeet this week |
| 23:18.40 | Leeds | yes |
| 23:19.12 | rhowe | Then again, every week holds the potential for a beermeet |
| 23:19.35 | Leeds | true... but this one is an intercontinental beermeet! |
| 23:19.48 | rhowe | indeed |
| 23:20.26 | rhowe | Battle.Royale.II.DVDRip S01E01 Pilot.avi |
| 23:20.26 | rhowe | Kill.Bill.XViD.DVDRip-DiCE S01E02 My Mentor.avi |
| 23:20.26 | rhowe | Master.And.Commander.DVDRip.XviD-DiAMOND The.Last.Samurai.DVDRiP.XviD-BRUTUS |
| 23:20.51 | rhowe | The two episodes of a TV series are Scrubs, to pad out the disc |
| 23:21.10 | Leeds | I've got Kill Bill and Master and Commander... I've watched every episode of Scrubs - including the 4 not yet shown in the US :-) |
| 23:21.23 | Leeds | uh! not yet shown in the UK - they have been shown in the US |
| 23:23.34 | Leeds | in fact, I watched 5 episodes back-to-back last night when I got in at 3am, having left them downloading :-) |
| 23:23.40 | rhowe | Kill Bill appears to be a bastardised version - they bleep the name of the blonde woman out for some reason |
| 23:24.52 | Leeds | what, the nurse? |
| 23:26.08 | rhowe | blonde woman in yellow, first character to appear |
| 23:26.30 | Leeds | oh, the Bride? the main character? she has no name... |
| 23:26.42 | rhowe | It's supposed to be bleeped out? |
| 23:27.19 | Leeds | I don't remember it specifically being bleeped... where in the film is that? I do know that she has no name |
| 23:27.37 | rhowe | just every time they say her name, it's bleeped out |
| 23:29.24 | Leeds | I hear a beep at 8 minutes in |
