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01:46.04 | Marios_ | where to specify the IP of a DHCP server ? |
01:55.47 | Marios_ | is everybody sleaping ? |
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07:29.29 | mozrat | Morning folks |
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08:02.12 | SlayerXP | morning |
08:02.35 | mozrat | Morning SlayerXP |
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08:33.02 | mozrat | Hello Cope, Kyoji |
08:36.30 | Cope | hello mozrat |
08:36.34 | Cope | hi ky |
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09:53.45 | Xiaoqi | morning all |
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10:01.18 | zachary | moin |
10:04.32 | wethrin | Morning |
10:04.38 | wethrin | Fuck. My iPod is b0rk3d |
10:05.36 | Leeds | wethrin: how so? |
10:05.59 | wethrin | Doesn't power on, and doesn't even charge when putting the firewire cable in |
10:06.11 | Leeds | oops |
10:06.27 | wethrin | Yes. It was working a few days ago |
10:06.49 | wethrin | Took it with me on holiday, and now it doesn't work |
10:08.10 | Leeds | there is a reset thing... |
10:09.37 | Leeds | http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=61705 |
10:10.13 | wethrin | cheers |
10:12.18 | Leeds | I could summarise :-) |
10:12.24 | wethrin | No luck :( |
10:13.37 | Leeds | warranty? |
10:13.55 | wethrin | Nope. It's a classic iPod |
10:14.52 | Leeds | :-( |
10:15.04 | wethrin | Hm. Although the System Profile says that "No information found" on the Firewire port |
10:15.13 | wethrin | So maybe the FW controller on the laptop is dead |
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10:15.42 | Leeds | if you plug it into the wall does it respond? |
10:15.51 | wethrin | I have no wall to plug it into |
10:16.00 | wethrin | It's a classic one, which only used a cable |
10:16.01 | Cope | You are outside? |
10:16.12 | wethrin | I'm indoors |
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10:19.59 | Leeds | wethrin: so there's no power cable? |
10:20.46 | murb | wethrin: didn't you only just get it, is it still under warrantee? |
10:21.03 | wethrin | murb: No, I got in 2nd hand |
10:21.07 | wethrin | *it |
10:21.14 | wethrin | Leeds: No. Just the firewire cable |
10:21.19 | gregj | hi folks |
10:21.22 | Cope | murb: I'm getting seriously pissed off with Demon |
10:21.22 | wethrin | hi gj |
10:21.38 | murb | Cope: what have they now done to earn your displeasure? |
10:21.40 | wethrin | Demon are fine until you want them to do something :) |
10:21.48 | murb | wethrin: they used to be ok :( |
10:22.05 | murb | although given the ammount of greif i went through just to cancel my account they've gone downhill. |
10:22.23 | Leeds | wethrin: so the only way to charge it is f/w? My iPod came with a mains->f/w block for charging... |
10:22.27 | wethrin | murb: I know |
10:22.41 | wethrin | Leeds: Yes, but you have a new iPod. They do have those |
10:22.53 | Leeds | does the same block work though? |
10:23.02 | wethrin | I think so, yes |
10:23.08 | murb | Cope: well, i'm happy with my current ISP, but might move to BCN when / if they get their adsl service up and running. |
10:23.09 | wethrin | It's just one with a firewire connector on it |
10:35.11 | wethrin | Hm. The iPod is getting hot. |
10:35.24 | wethrin | So it's getting power at least |
10:38.25 | Cope | murb: Well they STILL haven't sorted out wibbleworld1, and their billing department are clueless - now they reckon I owe them a bill from months ago, yet the last time I spoke to them they said I owed them nothing; |
10:38.29 | Cope | etc etc |
10:38.37 | Cope | I'd like to be able to threaten them.... |
10:41.16 | Leeds | with violence? |
10:43.09 | George | heya Leeds |
10:43.13 | George | got my new phone today :) |
10:43.48 | Leeds | wow |
10:45.11 | murb | Cope: well wibbleworld.org and org.uk are avalible so. |
10:45.38 | murb | say byebyeto demon and migrate. |
10:49.30 | Cope | murb: Hmm... who would provide the bandwidth? |
10:49.46 | murb | Cope: there are loads of ISP offering generic adsl. |
10:49.55 | murb | pick one. |
10:50.06 | Cope | Would I need to run my own DNS server? |
10:50.18 | murb | I don't know how much demon charge but i'm currently paying eclipse about 23 quid a month for a /29 of normal service. |
10:50.19 | wethrin | No. I can do that. |
10:50.29 | wethrin | As can murb. And lots of other people :) |
10:50.46 | murb | what is more i can do it in a vagely competent style :) |
10:50.58 | murb | or however it is spelt :) |
10:51.02 | wethrin | :) |
10:51.03 | Cope | whereas wethrin .... |
10:51.20 | wethrin | Can do it competently, and spell correctly |
10:51.21 | murb | Cope: well we know about his qmail flailings from last night, he might also be running djbdns. |
10:51.27 | Cope | ewww |
10:51.30 | wethrin | No, I'm running BIND9 |
10:52.05 | Cope | Eclipse, eh? |
10:52.11 | wethrin | Nowt wrong with djbdns. Lots of people like it. And, of course, don't knock it unlness you've tried it |
10:53.15 | Cope | murb: how much for wibbleworld.org ? |
10:53.18 | Cope | or org.uk |
10:53.38 | Cope | Is that somethung yuri or whatever can sort? |
10:54.18 | murb | Cope: i can do an org.uk for 7.5quid / 2 years. |
10:54.46 | Cope | What's involved? |
10:54.59 | George | mmmm |
10:55.01 | George | sandwiches :D |
10:55.11 | murb | filling in the nominet application form, signing it and emailing it to applications@nic.uk |
10:55.19 | George | murb: I can do .org.uk for 6.09 quid / 2 years |
10:55.19 | George | :P |
10:55.44 | murb | if i cared i could do it for 5.87, but don't want to make aloss. |
10:55.51 | Cope | George: yeah, but murb is moderately competent; and I like him; You're a prat. |
10:55.52 | murb | and i have to pay for my nominet membership some how as well |
10:56.00 | George | Cope: thanks. |
10:56.12 | murb | George: are you a nominet member? |
10:56.17 | George | no |
10:56.18 | George | er wait |
10:56.34 | George | are you talking about being the registrar yourself? |
10:56.34 | murb | George: you'd know if you were. |
10:56.41 | Cope | How does one 'do' an org.uk then? |
10:56.49 | George | argh, forget everything I said |
10:56.49 | George | ;) |
10:57.02 | wethrin | One asks murb or BCN or $other_nominet_member |
10:57.04 | murb | Cope: you fill in the form which i'll find in a second, i check it looks ok, gpg sign it and email it to applications@ |
10:57.16 | murb | indeed, or ask someone else to do the same. |
10:57.49 | Cope | ibot BCN |
10:57.50 | ibot | Cope: I don't know, could you explain it? |
10:57.53 | Cope | No |
10:57.57 | wethrin | www.blackcatnetworks.co.uk |
10:58.00 | Cope | Ah |
10:58.24 | murb | oh and you agree to the nominet terms and conditions. |
10:59.34 | Cope | How does that then get pointed at an IP? |
10:59.46 | murb | you delegate it to some nameservers at the same time. |
10:59.55 | murb | those nameservers hold a zone information for that domain. |
11:00.03 | murb | which has in it whatever you want. |
11:10.25 | Cope | What about eclipse - how long have you been with them? |
11:10.32 | Cope | Recommendations are always good. |
11:12.07 | murb | nearly a year now. |
11:12.26 | murb | they've had one or 2 problems, but i've never had to phone them. |
11:12.49 | murb | mainly of the type bt have borked the network everyone is reauthing so are radius servers are a bit maxed please try again. |
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11:54.28 | cup | afternoon |
12:04.29 | Cope | hello cup |
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12:35.29 | rhowe | Anyone familiar with XSLT? |
12:36.21 | gregj | bit |
12:37.57 | rhowe | OK, I want to do something evil |
12:38.29 | gregj | :> |
12:38.36 | gregj | well |
12:38.40 | gregj | we all do, don't we ;) |
12:38.40 | gregj | ;) |
12:38.43 | rhowe | I have <link name="foo">bar</link> in an XML document. I want to turn it into <a href="<link:url name='foo' />">bar</a> |
12:38.57 | gregj | impoossible |
12:39.12 | gregj | use [] to embbody xml into xlm |
12:39.13 | gregj | so |
12:39.15 | rhowe | However, you don't seem to be allowed to put <xsl:element> inside <xsl:attribute> and if I try using text, XSLT 'kindly' escapes it all |
12:39.26 | gregj | <a href="[<link:....>]">..... |
12:40.48 | rhowe | What on earth is that processor? |
12:40.57 | rhowe | xsltproc no like |
12:41.08 | gregj | at least that's what we do in KKDE |
12:41.39 | rhowe | Are you drunk? :) |
12:41.48 | gregj | not at all |
12:42.09 | rhowe | Lots of double letters :) |
12:42.14 | gregj | yes |
12:42.34 | gregj | that's cause my computer compiles 1000x things, I am insstalling new fonts, etc |
12:42.49 | gregj | and irssi is so kind to repeat, or even reorder letters when you write too fast |
12:42.51 | gregj | ;) |
12:43.03 | rhowe | heh |
12:55.29 | wethrin | Foo |
12:55.46 | gregj | bar |
12:56.01 | wethrin | I hate broken hardware |
12:56.10 | gregj | who doesn't |
12:56.22 | gregj | I have broken embded platform that suppose to run linux |
12:56.26 | gregj | with ARM 10mhz |
12:56.27 | gregj | :/ |
12:56.32 | wethrin | Slow to compile :) |
12:56.43 | gregj | cross compilers |
12:56.45 | gregj | ;) |
12:57.02 | gregj | tthan you flash the flash (EEPROM) , and voillie |
12:57.05 | wethrin | Well, my iPod isn't working. But it might be because it's broken, or because the firewire controller in the laptop is broken |
12:57.16 | gregj | or whatever french writing it is for it |
12:57.35 | gregj | let's face it, you probably fcsked it |
12:57.35 | gregj | ;p |
12:58.12 | gregj | M$ recently said that they are working on 5x cheaper iPod-a-like player |
12:58.23 | wethrin | I didn't fsck it :) |
12:58.27 | gregj | obviously it won't run linux |
12:58.35 | gregj | yes, it fscked it self |
12:58.36 | wethrin | I took it with me on holiday. I think the battery ran down |
12:58.43 | gregj | selfdestruction mode |
12:58.44 | gregj | ;) |
12:59.05 | wethrin | But plugged it in, and it wasn't detected |
12:59.10 | wethrin | Thinking of which. |
12:59.13 | gregj | does it play ? |
12:59.17 | wethrin | Who here has a powerbook to hand? |
12:59.26 | wethrin | No. There is no power on it |
12:59.34 | gregj | charge oit |
12:59.34 | gregj | it |
12:59.43 | gregj | maybe that's the cause |
13:00.14 | wethrin | I can't |
13:00.17 | wethrin | That's the problem |
13:00.23 | gregj | well, so |
13:00.28 | Leeds | get a f/w->mains charger block from somewhere |
13:00.43 | gregj | rule of thumb, hardware usually works better when powered |
13:00.49 | wethrin | How much do they cost? |
13:01.13 | wethrin | gregj: Yes. The problem is not being able to power it. If I can solve that problem, then I should be able to get the iPod to work again |
13:01.40 | gregj | so you charge battery through laptop USB or whatever connection ? |
13:01.49 | murb | has anyone noticed pretty widespread v6 connectivity problems today? |
13:01.54 | wethrin | Firewire |
13:01.54 | murb | like can anyone ping6 www.hea.net? |
13:02.05 | wethrin | Yes |
13:02.12 | gregj | I had some issues with ipv6 yesterday |
13:02.20 | gregj | well, with whole internet |
13:02.21 | Leeds | wethrin: apple store, no UK block listed, but a world power kit goes for 29 quid |
13:02.22 | gregj | but it seems to be ok today |
13:02.25 | wethrin | If it was USB I wouldn't have a problem - I've got plenty of USB devices |
13:02.42 | wethrin | Hm. World power kit. That may be useful |
13:02.43 | gregj | gj@thinkpaddie:~$ ping6 www.hea.net |
13:02.43 | gregj | PING www.hea.net(cyclops.ipv6.heanet.ie) 56 data bytes |
13:02.43 | gregj | 64 bytes from cyclops.ipv6.heanet.ie: icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=650 ms |
13:02.43 | gregj | 64 bytes from cyclops.ipv6.heanet.ie: icmp_seq=2 ttl=57 time=357 ms |
13:02.59 | gregj | wethrin: I got firewire in my Vaio |
13:03.00 | Leeds | wethrin: but I'd suggest borrowing my block first :-) |
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13:16.13 | wethrin | Huw? |
13:16.24 | SlayerXP | err |
13:16.28 | murb | wethrin: looks like a typo. |
13:16.38 | wethrin | Yes. |
13:16.53 | murb | although i don't see why anyone would want to. |
13:17.12 | SlayerXP | well, one of my business partners lives in south wales |
13:17.22 | SlayerXP | plus alan and telsa frequent the channel |
13:17.32 | SlayerXP | handy to be able to randomly ask alan technical stuff |
13:17.32 | wethrin | Pah. They should come here :) |
13:18.01 | SlayerXP | minor claim to fame: alan has stayed at my house |
13:18.04 | SlayerXP | :) |
13:18.07 | wethrin | Oooh |