00:00.25 | Marios_ | I didn't read the whole discussion..cause I am working on some other things at the same time ;) |
00:00.36 | highbury | rhowe: not sure i understand your question, the box provides wireless has ethernet "internet" port and 4 ordinary ethernet ports |
00:01.11 | rhowe | highbury: Those 4 ports are probably a built in switch, rather than distinct interfaces |
00:01.22 | rhowe | highbury: In fact, I'm 99% sure they are |
00:01.44 | rhowe | highbury: IIRC there's an ethernet link from the WRT hardware to a built in switch, which has 5 ports - that internal one, and the 4 external ones you see |
00:01.46 | highbury | what do you mean by "distinct interfaces"? |
00:01.50 | Marios_ | yeah most probably there is a switch there |
00:03.05 | rhowe | highbury: It's like putting 4 NICs in a PC or plugging the PC into a 5 port ethernet switch - it's different |
00:03.22 | rhowe | highbury: You can't do access control between the ports if it's just a switch (unless it's an intelligent switch) |
00:03.46 | highbury | ahh switch vs hub |
00:04.08 | highbury | I'm not sure of the level of control yet between each port |
00:04.19 | rhowe | No, switch vs seperate ports |
00:04.34 | rhowe | I'm sure it's a built in switch |
00:09.38 | Marios_ | so rhowe..both my routers have built-in firewall... |
00:09.52 | Marios_ | is there any preferences which on is inside ? |
00:09.59 | highbury | ADSL----> WRT54G +----> Smoothwall -----> network hub |
00:09.59 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
00:09.59 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
00:10.00 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
00:10.00 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
00:10.00 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
00:10.02 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
00:10.23 | highbury | is what I guess I'm currently envisioning |
00:10.30 | rhowe | Marios_: Whichever is most flexible and trustworthy? :) |
00:10.42 | Marios_ | both are the same brand |
00:10.46 | Marios_ | ;) |
00:11.21 | rhowe | Debian? :P |
00:11.42 | highbury | the box says 4 switched ports |
00:11.51 | Marios_ | in my wireless router there is an ethernet port (in case someone wants to add wired connections) it is from that port that I should connect it with the wired router right ? |
00:12.05 | rhowe | Marios_: Yup |
00:12.06 | highbury | Marios_: its always a good idea to use different firewalls if possible |
00:12.31 | Marios_ | I should soon buy a separate one |
00:12.36 | rhowe | highbury: Lemme go get a book I bought in China. Quite a good book it is too |
00:12.45 | rhowe | ORA - "Designing Large Scale LANs" |
00:14.26 | Marios_ | highbury: make sure you allow only specific MAC addresses on your wireless router |
00:15.11 | Marios_ | cause in my building nobody does and I have been using my laptop without having wireless router myself |
00:15.21 | highbury | I guess I'll be wanting to hand configure each wireless guest |
00:15.33 | Marios_ | yes |
00:16.33 | Marios_ | this is what I am actually doing now |
00:16.47 | Marios_ | highbury: do you prefer ADSL over cable ? |
00:22.24 | rhowe | highbury: How many interfaces does the smoothwall have? |
00:26.55 | rhowe | http://siksai.co.uk/~rhowe/highbury-lan.png |
00:29.02 | highbury | Marios_: I don't understand your question |
00:29.34 | highbury | rhowe: my smoothwall box currently has 2 ethernet cards |
00:29.53 | highbury | http://community.smoothwall.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9218&highlight=wrt54g |
00:30.34 | rhowe | highbury: OK |
00:31.01 | rhowe | highbury: Then I would add another and have the smoothwall do all the work.. that way you'll get IDS on the WLAN too. Should be possible to stick the WRT into bridging mode |
00:31.19 | rhowe | Plus, it'll be easy to filter whatever you like |
00:34.34 | highbury | i.e. |
00:34.47 | highbury | ADSL----> Smoothwall -[GREEN]---> network hub |
00:34.47 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
00:34.47 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
00:34.47 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
00:34.47 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
00:34.48 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
00:34.50 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
00:34.52 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
00:35.13 | rhowe | Yeah |
00:35.28 | rhowe | You could stick shared devices on the switch built into the WRT54, like the printer |
00:35.44 | rhowe | I'd use that as a way to put devices on the WLAN which don't have 802.11 interfaces |
00:37.47 | highbury | ok, its bed time now, and I have to take some water up for baby. thanks for your help. |
00:40.15 | highbury | nn |
00:40.21 | rhowe | 'night |
01:08.36 | Marios_ | highbury: are you still there? |
01:09.20 | rhowe | Doubt it |
01:09.23 | Marios_ | heheh |
01:09.29 | Marios_ | I wasn't here either |
01:09.44 | Marios_ | well how about you rhowe... what do you prefer cable or ADSL ? |
01:10.04 | rhowe | Marios_: I've never used cable, so I really don't know |
01:10.09 | Marios_ | I see |
01:10.18 | Marios_ | are you in London ? |
01:10.18 | rhowe | Cable sounds easier to interface with |
01:10.46 | rhowe | Don't you just get ethernet out of the wall, pretty much? |
01:10.52 | rhowe | Yep, Hendon NW4 |
01:11.09 | Marios_ | no !! |
01:11.26 | Marios_ | what you get is an ugly coaxial cable ;) |
01:11.41 | Marios_ | then you need a cable modem which outputs ethernet |
01:11.44 | rhowe | Well yes, but that will be bridged onto an ethernet segment by the cable modem, no? |
01:11.54 | rhowe | The cable modem won't be doing NAT though, right? |
01:12.00 | Marios_ | nope |
01:12.11 | rhowe | Which makes it much better than DSL for me :P |
01:12.33 | rhowe | So maybe I should look at getting cable |
01:12.33 | Marios_ | does the DSL modem do NAT ? |
01:13.11 | rhowe | No, but it outputs ethernet, which requires me to run PPPoE, which doesn't work very well |
01:13.11 | Marios_ | ohhh |
01:13.19 | Marios_ | so you stay in NW4...I was looking online for houses there ;) |
01:13.23 | rhowe | I'm going to be getting a proper DSL card for the firewall, but they're expensive |
01:13.33 | rhowe | heh, I need a flatmate, starting in a week :P |
01:13.42 | rhowe | 475/month plus taxes and bills (each) |
01:13.59 | Marios_ | cool |
01:14.10 | Marios_ | I wish I was alone ;) |
01:14.24 | Marios_ | but my wife is coming to |
01:15.01 | rhowe | heh, you don't want her to hear you say that :P |
01:15.08 | Marios_ | no I don't |
01:15.10 | Marios_ | hehehehe |
01:15.27 | Marios_ | you know it is nice to be married but sometimes you miss your single times |
01:17.25 | Marios_ | she is in Hong Kong right ? |
01:17.30 | rhowe | Yep |
01:17.34 | Marios_ | cool |
01:17.45 | Marios_ | how did you meet her in the UK ? |
01:18.00 | rhowe | She was studying in Manchester |
01:18.04 | rhowe | I found her on ICQ, of all things |
01:18.09 | Marios_ | hahahahahh |
01:18.15 | Marios_ | nice story |
01:18.23 | Marios_ | I met my wife on IRC |
01:18.25 | rhowe | She was on a scholarship from HSBC and was living about 10mins walk away |
01:18.30 | rhowe | hehe |
01:18.57 | Marios_ | so are you moving there or is she coming in London ? |
01:19.16 | rhowe | Dunno yet - probably going to have to move over there |
01:20.03 | Marios_ | yeah |
01:20.42 | Marios_ | you need to learn chinese right ? |
01:21.37 | rhowe | Well, it'd help, but isn't necessary |
01:22.13 | Marios_ | my best friend got married with a Japanese girl and now he speaks Japanese very well |
01:23.24 | rhowe | Japanese is hard :) |
01:23.29 | rhowe | Especially to write |
01:23.44 | Marios_ | I know |
01:24.05 | Marios_ | but if you have the will to learn...everything is possible |
01:24.55 | rhowe | True |
01:25.06 | rhowe | I don't think I'm going to have the will if I'm not out there though |
01:25.38 | Marios_ | well for every language is better to learn it in the place that is widely spoken |
01:26.04 | rhowe | Yep |
01:26.20 | rhowe | Except English, where living in England is likely to ruin the English of anyone attempting to learn the language :) |
01:27.10 | Marios_ | hehhehhe |
01:27.36 | Marios_ | I learned English in the US so I don't know |
07:27.33 | highbury | morning |
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11:47.30 | morsing | morning |
11:48.38 | gregj | morning |
11:48.39 | gregj | ;) |
11:54.09 | morsing | How's the weather? |
11:55.40 | gregj | where ? |
11:55.42 | gregj | in PL ? |
11:55.44 | gregj | so so |
11:55.55 | gregj | sunny, but with strong wind |
11:56.03 | gregj | it's fall, almost |
11:56.48 | morsing | Ok |
11:56.53 | morsing | No sun here |
11:57.11 | gregj | well, it's probably raining in england now |
11:57.26 | gregj | it's raining here too, but not toda |
11:57.27 | gregj | y |
11:57.37 | gregj | from time to time, sporadic |
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12:05.43 | morsing | What?!? |
12:09.00 | gregj | spam |
12:10.20 | pawel | :-E |
12:10.44 | pawel | neeeeed your bloood. |
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12:49.56 | rhowe | morsing: hehe - still giving grief? :) |
12:51.20 | rhowe | morsing: Can't you just slice off the locking tag and use something more commonplace? :) |
12:52.39 | morsing | I don't understand it. |
12:52.54 | morsing | It's got one MMJ connector with a printer symbol on it. |
12:53.06 | morsing | But I only get two smiley faces when turning o |
12:53.08 | morsing | it on |
12:53.22 | rhowe | heh |
12:53.39 | rhowe | Drawn as colon-dash-paren? |
12:53.57 | morsing | No a proper smiley. |
12:54.07 | morsing | I little face |
12:54.18 | rhowe | Hm, well then it's sending 8 bit characters |
12:54.26 | rhowe | Maybe the baud rate is wrong or something? |
12:54.34 | morsing | It's set to VT100 9600-n-8 |