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00:16.06*** join/#gllug Marios_ (~mkoumide@66.227.167.158.kzo.mi.chartermi.net)
00:16.49Marios_anybody awake?
00:24.05mozratyes sir
00:24.28mozrathow are you Marios_ ??
00:26.56Marios_hehhehe
00:26.58Marios_I am fine..
00:27.16Marios_waiting for some friends for a small party
00:27.31Marios_how are you doing?
00:28.13mozratworking unfortunately
00:28.49Marios_so late?
00:29.18mozratserver rebuild
00:29.24Marios_ohhh
00:29.29Marios_good luck then !!
00:29.39Marios_oh by the way I wanna ask you something
00:30.12mozratsure!
00:30.20Marios_I have a step down transformer here...input 110V and output 19V
00:30.27mozratuh huh
00:30.38Marios_on the wire there is a small plug (round plug)
00:30.49Marios_which is what I plug on the device
00:31.00mozratif you're going to ask "should I attach this to my testicles?"
00:31.05mozratthe answer is yes
00:31.16mozratsorry, tired humour... go on
00:31.17Marios_hahahhahahhahahahahaha
00:31.18Marios_LOL
00:31.29Marios_it was a good one ;)
00:31.33Marios_anywayz...
00:31.57Marios_that small round plug has - pole on the outside core and the + core on the inside
00:32.55mozratyep
00:33.09Marios_is it the same in the UK?
00:33.25Marios_cause once my friend brought me a radio from there...many many years ago...
00:33.40Marios_and the - pole was inside and the + pole outside
00:34.23mozratI'm afraid I don't know offhand, but I believe the first one
00:34.42Marios_hmm if this is the case then it is good
00:35.07Marios_what is gonna happen to a device if put the wrong one?
00:35.17mozratumm
00:35.22Marios_invert the - with + and the - with +
00:35.25mozratbad things probably!
00:35.30Marios_I see
00:35.38Marios_ok !
00:35.48Marios_I will have to make sure I don't do it...
00:36.06mozratheh
00:36.08mozratyes
00:36.12Marios_I was looking on the google but I didn't find that info
01:15.47mozratSo Mr Marios -- when are you coming over?
01:22.32Marios_middle to end of December
01:22.42Marios_I have packed most of my stuff
01:23.15mozratcool :D
01:23.27mozratknow where you are going to stay yet?
01:23.49Marios_not yet...but as far as I know London..most probably North London
01:24.52Marios_I hope I can find job easily
01:24.58Marios_;)
01:25.32mozratyep
01:25.36mozratsure you'll be OK :D
01:25.53Marios_I keep my fingers crossed
01:25.55Marios_hhehehe
01:26.47Marios_is there some kind of icrease in jobs ?
01:27.13mozrathaven't looked in a while, but there are jobs going
01:27.22mozratproblem is people keep applying for them
01:27.30Marios_hahahha
01:27.45mozratI know my firm is still recruiting a bit
01:27.52mozratso that offer still stands
01:28.01Marios_cool :)
01:28.05mozratbrb
01:28.28Marios_today I was reading somewhere that soon there will be a shortage of IT people
01:28.28Marios_ok'
01:29.36mozratI guess some of them aren't that tall but....
01:29.38mozratoh, I see
01:30.15Marios_is the contracting sector option good thing?
01:33.51mozratyes and no
01:34.15mozratcontractors don't get the same Tax breaks they used to
01:34.30mozratso being your own boss in a one-man company isn't that good anymore
01:34.43Marios_ohh I see
01:34.44mozratbut it is still lucrative if you are lucky/good
01:35.04Marios_well what I was thinking is like what I did here....doing projects part time
01:35.17Marios_full time job + some part time projects
01:36.34mozratyep
01:36.39mozratsounds sensible
01:37.37Marios_cause here I couldn't have a full time job and be student at the same time...Bush doesn't let us do it
01:37.57Marios_so I worked on some projects and it is quite a good experience
01:38.16mozrat"4 more years"
01:38.36Marios_oh God...
01:39.09Marios_everybody makes fun of him..everybody hates him...but he will win...
01:39.14mozratI think even the slogan "10 more minutes" would be pushing it
01:39.50Marios_they made some very funny car stickers about him
01:42.17Marios_are you guys reelecting Blair?
01:42.43mozratI saw a good picture of a young lady on a war protest march wearing a flesh coloured TShirt with stuck on hair in the shape of a pubic triangle, and the slogan "The only good type of Bush"
01:42.52mozratNo idea
01:43.02mozratprobably -- the opposition are in a bit of a state
01:43.07mozratbut I don't know
01:43.46Marios_politics will be hot in Europe next year...with the referendum about EU constitution
01:45.08mozratyes
01:45.34Marios_I 'm happy returning back in Europe
01:45.53mozratYou must've enjoyed the US though?
01:46.25Marios_well it is a whole new worls
01:46.27Marios_world
01:46.34Marios_so different from Europe
01:47.00Marios_you discover things like you will never ever think they exist ;)
01:47.11mozratlike..... ;)
01:47.53Marios_the way they think...is the first thing you notice
01:48.16Marios_ohh and another thing is how hot the college girls are ;)
01:48.56mozrat:D
01:49.03mozratthat sounds promising
01:49.24Marios_oh yeah
01:49.40Marios_have you watched any movies about the American Spring Breaks?
01:49.53mozratUmmm
01:50.03mozratRoad Trip, American Pie etc etc
01:50.45Marios_oh yeah
01:51.07Marios_American Pie 1-2-3 were shot about 40 miles from my house
01:51.19mozratcool!
01:52.19Marios_last year lots of students...about 500 got drunk and they closed the roads around campus .. set some sofas on fire...
01:52.39mozratyeah, but you have riot cops right... no problem then
01:52.44Marios_and the guys were shouting to the girls..."show your tits"
01:53.02Marios_and you could see right there many many girls taking their shirts off
01:53.10Marios_and the police couldn't do a thing
01:54.19mozratcool!
01:54.52Marios_do you guys have lots of wireless places over there?
01:55.06Marios_cause here now you can find it in most cafes, libraries..etc
01:55.10mozratlots of hotspots from TMobile
01:55.15mozratbut not so cheap
01:55.26Marios_ohhh
01:55.30Marios_here it is free
01:55.31mozratthere is a opennetwork called consume in London, but connectivity is very sparse
01:55.39mozratyeah, not so here
01:55.48Marios_probably soon it will be
01:55.49mozratyou may find some places have it free, but not many
01:55.54Marios_hmm
01:55.57mozratconsume.net
01:56.04Marios_I will check it out
01:57.22mozratthrow me one
01:59.15mozratglug glug gllug
01:59.26Marios_;)
02:00.44Marios_man it is late..aren't you going home tonight?
02:00.55mozratnope
02:00.57mozrattoo late now
02:01.13mozratbit hard to get home so late -- I live a fair way out of London
02:01.19Marios_ohhh
02:01.25mozratso gonna walk back to office and find a sofa
02:01.28mozrator...
02:01.29Marios_do you commute by car?
02:01.31mozratIRC all night
02:01.33mozratnope
02:01.44Marios_tube?
02:01.46mozratI have a car, but driving to work is expensive and stressful
02:01.58Marios_I believe the same thing
02:02.12Marios_everytime I am in London...I always use the tube
02:02.24mozratyou have to pay £5 a day just to have the car inside central London now
02:02.45Marios_yeah I was there when they started it ;)
02:03.51Marios_so where in London do you stay?
02:04.17mozratElm Park
02:04.49mozrathttp://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=552460&y=184750&z=0&sv=rm13+7hs&st=2&pc=rm13+7hs&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf
02:04.55Marios_in harrow right?
02:04.58mozratyou can zoom out from there
02:05.00mozratnah
02:05.05mozratbut same side roughly
02:05.08evangineermozrat, your firm is recruiting?
02:05.22Marios_I see
02:05.36mozratyep
02:05.36mozratcasually looking
02:05.42mozratmainly for Lotus Domino engineers
02:05.49evangineerreally?
02:05.52mozratbut also other stuff
02:05.53mozrataye
02:06.04mozratI'm running off now
02:06.10Marios_ok !!
02:06.11mozratbut mail me >> simon.morris@cmtww.com
02:06.19mozratif you are interested
02:06.29evangineer'k
02:06.42mozratI'll be back on in about 30 anyway
02:06.49mozratjust walking back to Paddington
02:07.37mozratI'm a bit gutted to be signing off actually
02:07.42Marios_hehehe
02:07.46Marios_see ya later...
02:07.46mozratI think I'm 4 hours away from 24 hours online
02:09.28mozratevangineer: www.cmtww.com is the company if you wanna look
02:10.50evangineerlooking now
02:11.06mozratIts an internal company dealing with advertising groups under a big parent company
02:11.14mozratbut the group is very big
02:11.23mozratover 50,000 ppl atm
02:11.32mozratand best of all
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02:11.43mozratthere is a pub *right* next to the office
02:11.47mozrat:)
02:12.22Marios_go grub a beer
02:12.50Marios_get me a job there man..we go everyday for beers
02:12.51Marios_;)
02:13.12evangineerah yes, part of wpp they are huge
02:13.21mozratyah
02:13.34mozratMarios_: you're on :)
02:13.47Marios_great !!
02:14.29mozrat[Legal disclaimer: "you're on" does not form a binding contract]
02:14.37Marios_hahahahah
02:14.39Marios_;)
02:14.48evangineerhmm, rather outsource it to india as a cost centre. wpp have spun it out into a service providing profit centre.
02:14.59evangineer(my first impression)
02:15.29Marios_are there many companies outsourcing to India ?
02:15.30evangineers/it/IT/
02:15.35Marios_here almost all
02:16.25evangineerquite a few firms are outsourcing to india
02:16.50evangineermostly call centre jobs but also an increasing amount of it as well
02:17.11mozratevangineer: I'd have to discuss it more offline with you, but we're non-profit
02:17.32evangineerah, ok.
02:17.54Marios_hehehheh
02:21.05Marios_anybody wanna suggest me a good PDA?
02:23.58mozratI have a Blackberry which I like -- but not very customisable
02:24.03mozratbest going for email though
02:24.08mozratused to have a Zaurus
02:24.21mozratnice, low battery life... very extensible and loads of apps
02:24.30mozratPocket PC is..... pocket PC
02:24.45Marios_yeah too Windows
02:24.46Marios_;)
02:29.44mozratbut zaurus is nice
02:29.49mozratshell, filesystem
02:30.25mozratyou can run servers on it
02:30.58mozratI used to have a proxy server that cached a set of pages every morning so I could read on the way to work
02:31.20mozratplus it has both CF cards and SD-RAM slots
02:31.29mozratfor ethernet, wireless etc
02:31.49mozratanyway - time for walkies
02:31.53mozratsee you in a bit
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07:14.57morsing'morning
07:15.24mozratmoin morsing
07:16.19SlayerXPmorning
07:22.54SlayerXPMister Tethys appears to be on crack.
07:31.04mozratHmm. yes
08:03.01morsingWhy?