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07:48.03 | highbury | morning |
08:08.27 | dcleric | hi |
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15:37.59 | George | ARGH! |
15:46.45 | Katrina | o.o |
15:50.40 | George | argh |
15:50.43 | George | you're not dead |
15:51.14 | Katrina | keep going |
15:51.17 | George | why? |
15:51.31 | Katrina | you just gonna leave a job half finished? |
15:51.39 | Katrina | psh, typical male :| |
15:51.51 | George | bitch. |
16:00.32 | rhowe | Leeds: Just had a call from someone about the flat - he wants to look at it tomorrow |
16:00.46 | rhowe | Leeds: Jewish guy called Johnny from Leeds. No relation? :) |
16:04.21 | Cope | rhowe: :-) |
16:09.42 | rhowe | Cope: Just replied to your email btw - poke David for me, will you? :) |
16:18.12 | Cope | yeah sure |
16:18.18 | Cope | he's at work now. |
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16:38.07 | mozrat | Afternoon guys |
16:38.14 | mozrat | (and what a wet afternoon it is!_ |
16:39.41 | Katrina | indeed |
16:39.49 | Katrina | it's the afternoon before the morning i head off to ui :s |
16:39.51 | Katrina | uni* |
16:40.13 | mozrat | going back to Uni, or actually *going* to uni <gulp>!! |
16:40.30 | Katrina | going to uni :s |
16:40.48 | mozrat | good luck Katrina |
16:40.52 | Katrina | thanks |
16:40.59 | mozrat | I'm sure you'll enjoy it :D |
16:41.15 | Katrina | i'm so scared i won't have anywhere to stay or stuff like that, even though i sorted it all out :x |
16:41.48 | Katrina | or i'll've forgotten something important |
16:42.25 | mozrat | where are you going, and to study what? |
16:42.26 | Katrina | :s |
16:42.32 | Katrina | southampton, computer engineering |
16:42.43 | mozrat | cool |
16:42.50 | mozrat | is that local(ish) for you? |
16:43.14 | Katrina | it's about 1.5-2 hours drive away |
16:43.27 | Katrina | so it's quite far but not so far that i can't come home occasionally if i really really need to |
16:43.45 | mozrat | thats good |
16:46.48 | mozrat | question for the channel -- does anyone know if it possible to write custom Symantec virus defs? |
16:48.42 | Cope | yep - its possible. |
16:48.44 | Cope | HTH :-) |
16:50.03 | rhowe | Time to go buy the essentials, methinks. Bread, milk, cheese |
16:54.14 | Katrina | coffee |
16:56.47 | mozrat | thanks man |
17:01.37 | rhowe | Mask of Zorro on BBC1 :) |
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17:15.38 | Marios_ | Hello ! |
17:16.47 | mozrat | Hi Marios_ |
17:22.01 | Marios_ | mozrat: you are not still at work right? |
17:22.06 | mozrat | well |
17:22.13 | mozrat | at home, but working on a problem atm :( |
17:22.25 | Marios_ | at least you are home... |
17:22.30 | mozrat | :) |
17:22.31 | mozrat | yep |
17:22.47 | Marios_ | I just woke up and trying to make my old PDA working on wi-fi |
17:23.38 | mozrat | which PDA? |
17:24.39 | Marios_ | cassiopeia BE300 |
17:25.07 | mozrat | cool |
17:25.44 | mozrat | I saw a Sharp Zaurus SL550 today for sale for £110 |
17:25.47 | Marios_ | how do you make it working with GPRS ? |
17:25.57 | Marios_ | that one is very good too |
17:26.01 | Marios_ | mine is old |
17:26.01 | mozrat | I had one before that got busted, and I was tempted to get it |
17:26.09 | mozrat | I would have a spare battery, cradle etc |
17:26.14 | mozrat | but I didn't :( |
17:26.49 | Marios_ | have you tries a Linux one/ |
17:26.49 | Marios_ | ? |
17:27.35 | mozrat | the Zaurus is Linux |
17:27.41 | Marios_ | ohh |
17:27.58 | Marios_ | I confused it with something else |
17:28.13 | mozrat | the default Sharp ROM is Linux, but a little hard to get to... the OpenZaurus ROM image is awesome |
17:28.56 | Marios_ | you can easily load the OpenZaurus right? |
17:29.08 | mozrat | yeah, very easy with a CF card |
17:29.12 | mozrat | load the image on the card |
17:29.20 | mozrat | reboot zaurus holding down 2 buttone |
17:29.24 | mozrat | buttons* |
17:29.28 | mozrat | and wait about 5 minutes |
17:29.37 | mozrat | have you seen this Marios_ >> http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20040930.html |
17:29.37 | Marios_ | can you load it from a PC? |
17:29.50 | mozrat | that guy is a big zaurus user :) |
17:31.18 | Marios_ | let me read it |
17:34.55 | Marios_ | cool !! |
17:35.05 | Marios_ | must be a really good PDA |
17:35.07 | Marios_ | ;) |
17:37.47 | Marios_ | only Sharp has Linux PDAs ? |
17:38.48 | Marios_ | Geroge: 5500 or 6000? |
17:40.27 | mozrat | Marios_: I believe you can get Linux onto PocketPC devices, but the Sharp has the biggest community etc |
17:40.54 | Marios_ | their two products have been discontinued |
17:41.01 | Marios_ | this is what amazon says |
17:41.47 | mozrat | george, where did Zaurus Zone go to? |
17:41.52 | mozrat | did it shut down?? |
17:42.40 | George | mozrat: no idea |
17:42.44 | George | mozrat: I haven't used it in a while |
17:42.47 | mozrat | hmm |
17:44.16 | Marios_ | mozrat: how can you access GPRS from a PDA? I know for wi-fi you need a wireless card obviously |
17:44.40 | mozrat | You need a GPRS card I guess -- I have a PCMCIA one |
17:45.20 | mozrat | you should be able to buy Compact Flash GPRS cards |
17:45.33 | mozrat | http://www.laipac.com/gsm-gprs-compact-flash-card.htm |
17:46.01 | mozrat | and of course the dialer software if that vendor doesn't support Linux |
17:46.28 | Marios_ | oh great..this is what I wanted |
17:47.12 | Marios_ | have you ever wrote programs for a PDA? |
17:48.48 | mozrat | nope |
17:48.53 | mozrat | but I might start soon |
17:49.08 | mozrat | you can compile stuff on the Zaurus too which is nice |
17:49.14 | mozrat | and also SSH into it, VNC onto it |
17:49.45 | Marios_ | cool |
19:23.28 | Cope | zaurus has the biggest community? Since when!? |
19:47.56 | Cope | George |
19:47.59 | Cope | :-) |
19:53.22 | George | what the hell? |
19:53.28 | George | Zaurus has a piss poor community |
19:53.44 | George | Cope: do you know how to use a HP 49 calculator? |
19:59.10 | Cope | What do you want to do? Graphing? |
19:59.15 | George | no |
19:59.32 | George | I want to get it to spurt out the decimal answer to sqrt(8) instead of saying it's 2*sqrt(8) :) |
20:04.02 | Cope | ah - its not giving you real numbers. |
20:04.04 | Cope | ok |
20:05.32 | George | any idea? :) |
20:05.48 | Cope | yeah... just looking at some old notes |
20:06.03 | George | you have a HP 49? |
20:06.15 | Cope | no - but i've used an hp48 |
20:08.35 | George | right |
20:10.26 | Cope | sorry George - can't find anything |
20:10.36 | Cope | i'll have a google though |
20:10.50 | rhowe | George: How can sqrt(8) = 2*sqrt(8)? |
20:10.59 | George | s/8/2 |
20:11.21 | rhowe | makes a bit more sense :) |
20:11.41 | George | aha |
20:11.43 | George | I seeeee |
20:11.48 | George | I can do sqrt(2.) |
20:11.49 | George | er. |
20:11.54 | George | sqrt(8.) |
20:11.58 | George | and it'll spurt out the real answer |
20:12.08 | George | it differentiates between integers and real numbers by appending dots |
20:12.20 | George | "The HP49 adds a new number type: integers. To differentiate between the real number and integer data types, the HP49 never shows a decimal point on integers and always shows a decimal point on real numbers." |
20:12.28 | George | apparently the HP48 didn't do that |
20:19.22 | Cope | ah tight |
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20:20.57 | Cope | aha |
20:21.05 | Cope | mozrat - I've been expecting you. |
20:21.17 | mozrat | he he |
20:21.35 | Cope | what are these viscous rumours you've been spreading? |
20:21.40 | Cope | about the zaurus community |
20:21.49 | mozrat | nothing boss |
20:21.58 | Cope | i have a zaurus |
20:22.01 | Cope | but i never use it |
20:22.07 | Cope | its battery life is too short |
20:22.31 | George | my zaurus sucks :) |
20:22.34 | Cope | its got openzaurus on it at present |
20:22.53 | Cope | if i could get it to do something useful, I might get interested in it again |
20:22.59 | Cope | but now its just a brick |
20:23.01 | mozrat | I have a OZ as well |
20:23.11 | mozrat | and nearly bought another |
20:23.13 | mozrat | today |
20:23.16 | Cope | gosh |
20:23.27 | George | Cope: which Zaurus do you have? |
20:23.30 | Cope | 5500 |
20:23.37 | George | ah |
20:23.48 | Cope | oooh |
20:24.02 | Cope | mozrat: what do you do with yours? is it a 5500? |
20:26.10 | mozrat | 5500 yes, and it is broken at the mo |
20:26.17 | Cope | :-( |
20:26.17 | mozrat | hence the near impulse buy today |
20:26.19 | Cope | how so? |
20:26.21 | mozrat | yeah, bummer |
20:26.26 | Cope | you can buy mine |
20:26.28 | Cope | i need the dosh! |
20:26.37 | mozrat | dunno -- was in the drawer for ages and when I bought it out it was dead |
20:26.43 | Cope | unless you convince me that its ace |
20:26.55 | Cope | then I might get excited about it and play with it again |
20:29.08 | mozrat | well did you read the link I posted to Marios_ earlier |
20:29.13 | Cope | no |
20:31.02 | Cope | hmm |
20:31.02 | Marios_ | Cope: go read ...it was very interesting |
20:31.06 | Cope | interesting |
20:31.34 | mozrat | http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20040930.html |
20:31.48 | mozrat | that guy uses it with a full screen monitor and keyboard/mouse |
20:31.54 | mozrat | which I have never seen the kit for |
20:32.04 | mozrat | I'm dubious about that to be honets |
20:32.05 | mozrat | honest |
20:32.15 | mozrat | I'm trying to track him down and ask him about it |
20:32.29 | Cope | interesting |
20:32.31 | mozrat | and that wasn't a 5500 anyway |
20:32.33 | Cope | no |
20:32.44 | mozrat | bah, you guys are going to make me go and buy that 5500 now :( |
20:32.47 | mozrat | damn you all |
20:32.53 | mozrat | (esp you Marios_ ) |
20:32.55 | mozrat | :D |
20:32.56 | Cope | how much was it? |
20:32.59 | mozrat | £110 |
20:33.02 | Cope | hmm |
20:33.12 | mozrat | but I want a newer one really |
20:33.14 | Marios_ | hahahaah |
20:33.17 | mozrat | www.shirtpocket.co.uk |
20:33.42 | mozrat | Cope: to be honest I really need to not spend random £100 notes on gadgets at the moment |
20:33.51 | Marios_ | I spent the last 2 days looking for a good PDA to use it and also play around with it...making new applications and installing Linux |
20:34.05 | mozrat | November is birthday galore month in my family, and there is some sort of religious festival in December |
20:34.15 | Cope | indeed |
20:34.22 | Cope | hence why 100 quid would go down well! |
20:34.24 | Cope | :-D |
20:34.29 | Cope | never mind |
20:34.34 | mozrat | so thanks for the offer.. but I'm trying to resist the temptation |
20:34.43 | mozrat | you can give it to me for Christmas if you must |
20:34.47 | Cope | i do need to use it, otherwise I'll just get pissed off at having an unused gadget |
20:34.52 | mozrat | yep |
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21:05.36 | mozrat | hey donkey |
21:06.38 | Marios_ | where did you see a donkey? ;) |
21:13.41 | Eeyore | mozrat: SLIB - second leave is best |
21:13.42 | Eeyore | ? |
21:14.10 | mozrat | I was trying to think of a catchphrase for Eeyore |
21:14.21 | mozrat | he really doesn't have any apart from being grumpy |
21:14.38 | mozrat | Marios_: Eeyore is the donkey in Winnie the Pooh |
21:14.40 | mozrat | LD |
21:14.42 | mozrat | :D |
21:14.55 | mozrat | s/LD// #stupid fingers |
21:15.06 | Marios_ | ohh yeah |
21:15.17 | Marios_ | probably I am too old to remember that |
21:15.24 | Eeyore | mozrat: "After all, what are birthdays? Here today and gone tomorrow." |
21:15.49 | mozrat | yeah, but it's not a classic catchphrase like "Bouncing is what Tiggers do best" |
21:16.01 | mozrat | or "Theres a rumbly in my tumbly" |
21:16.03 | Eeyore | hmmm |
21:16.24 | mozrat | Dammit -- must stop exposing how much I know about kids TV on public IRC channels |
21:16.45 | Eeyore | mozrat: this is not kids tv - its classic english literature |
21:17.07 | mozrat | true true |
21:17.50 | Marios_ | hheehe |
21:18.24 | Leeds | rhowe: ping? |
21:18.40 | Eeyore | aha! a leeds |
21:18.53 | Leeds | Eeyore: are you sure? |
21:19.57 | Eeyore | Leeds: you look like a leeds - the clue is in the letters: L e e d s |
21:20.05 | Leeds | suppose so |
21:20.13 | Eeyore | You could be an imposter, I suppose. |
21:20.51 | Leeds | I don't think I am, but you can never be too sure |
21:21.21 | Eeyore | are you still in Leeds? |
21:21.30 | Leeds | oh, no - been down here since Monday evening |
21:21.36 | Eeyore | hooray |
21:21.50 | Leeds | yes |
21:22.12 | Eeyore | did you go back to work? |
21:22.23 | Leeds | went for lunch round at a cousin's place today, got back after 9pm, via Tesco |
21:22.33 | Leeds | yeah, I went back on Tuesday, gave everyone a shock |
21:22.36 | Leeds | ah! |
21:22.50 | rhowe | Leeds: pong |
21:22.56 | Cope | woo! an rhowe |
21:22.57 | Leeds | rhowe: Johnny what? |
21:23.06 | rhowe | Leeds: Dunno |
21:23.22 | Leeds | any more info than Jewish and from Leeds? |
21:23.27 | Cope | lol |
21:23.31 | mozrat | anyone seen (mad about) shaun of the dead? |
21:23.35 | rhowe | Can tell you the last few digits of his mobile #, if you like :) |
21:23.45 | Leeds | probably not helpful |
21:23.45 | Cope | Yeah - he came into the farm on Thursday |
21:23.45 | rhowe | mozrat: mad about? |
21:23.58 | mozrat | if so please go and help this poor obsessed woman out >> http://www.openzombie.org.uk/ |
21:24.02 | Leeds | mozrat: it's good - a lot like a feature-length Spaced - but not amazingly great |
21:24.05 | mozrat | rhowe: mad about sotd |
21:24.21 | rhowe | mozrat: Different to shaun of the dead? |
21:25.09 | Leeds | possibly an example of open$FOO being taken a little too far |
21:26.01 | Leeds | bye-bye mozrat |
21:27.19 | rhowe | Hrm, the FAQ should begin with "WHY?" |
21:28.11 | Cope | The answer is: because evil employer has restricted traffic from desktop to http/https |
21:28.43 | Cope | and I don't like not being connected to home machines |
21:28.50 | Cope | and I don't like being unable to irc |
21:29.32 | Marios_ | who is that evil employer? |
21:29.37 | rhowe | MCI |
21:29.54 | Marios_ | very bad |
21:30.46 | Cope | i dunno - they pay me money for playing with nice computers |
21:30.57 | rhowe | As long as they have a web interface |
21:31.04 | Cope | no |
21:31.16 | Cope | I can connect to any client machines on ssh etc |
21:31.24 | Cope | I just can't connect outside MCI |
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21:31.38 | rhowe | Client machines are all inside MCI? |
21:31.43 | Leeds | Numz: hello, good evening, and welcome |
21:31.43 | Cope | of course |
21:31.51 | Cope | we do managed hosting |
21:32.00 | Cope | where else would the machines be, other than in our farms? |
21:32.13 | rhowe | Client's sites? |
21:32.26 | rhowe | Are client machines similarly restricted? |
21:32.27 | Cope | Ah no - the whole point is they don't have machines on their sites. |
21:32.59 | Cope | yeah - obviously one can't irc from the FBI's db server |
21:33.07 | Cope | (s) |
21:33.30 | rhowe | The FBI probably do :P |
21:33.35 | Cope | lol |
21:33.37 | Cope | maybe |
21:33.53 | Cope | anyway - yes, of course I could run irssi on client boxes, but it wouldn't be a good thing to do. |
21:35.17 | Cope | So - what i need is a way to connect to my machines, when all I have is http/https |
21:35.39 | rhowe | Run an SSH server on port 80? :) |
21:35.59 | Leeds | I've done IRC over http(-proxy) for a long time from work, switching back and forth with IRC over socks depending on which proxy is more friendly on the day |
21:36.24 | rhowe | Could you not ssh from a client's box to your box at home? |
21:36.35 | rhowe | That's somewhat less riskier than irssi on their box |
21:37.05 | Cope | not something I want to do; I would rather work out how to do as Leeds is saying |
21:37.23 | Leeds | it's a menu option in xchat :-) |
21:37.31 | Cope | yes I 'could' ssh to home from client boxes, but I wouldn't feel comfortable with it |
21:37.46 | Cope | Leeds: that program that runs well on windows xp with no admin rights? |
21:38.16 | Leeds | that's beyond the #gllug support contract terms... |
21:38.29 | Cope | not really |
21:38.53 | Cope | I want to run a linux proxy server at home, so I can connect to it from work using a browser, |
21:38.57 | Cope | :) |
21:38.57 | Cope | Or whatever |
21:53.29 | Cope | George: ping |
21:53.30 | Leeds | so what you really want is the openssh dynamic proxying |
21:54.13 | Leeds | but you've got a bootstrap problem |
21:56.23 | George | Cope: pong |
21:56.36 | Cope | yeah - anything that is going to run on my laptop just needs to be a binary - a single executeable |
21:56.56 | Cope | George: I had recollection that you did something evil at school last term - some kind of proxy thing? |
21:57.25 | Cope | George: although you weren't handicapped by having to use windows |
21:59.19 | George | Cope: yeah |
21:59.22 | George | Cope: same this term too |
21:59.36 | George | Cope: what do you want to know? |
22:00.26 | rhowe | o.O Sam West is the son of the woman who played Cybill in Fawlty Towers?! |
22:00.50 | George | Prunella Scales? |
22:00.55 | rhowe | That'll be her |
22:01.12 | George | Cope: basically |
22:01.22 | George | Cope: the system I have at school is a very evil kludgy tunnel |
22:01.45 | George | Cope: I have an httptunnel server running at home on port 8887 forwarding to localhost:22 so that I can connect to the local ssh server via the http tunnel |
22:01.57 | George | Cope: I then use ssh to connect to the ssh server via httptunnel |
22:02.10 | George | Cope: I then have squid installed on my server at home on port 8080 |
22:02.32 | George | Cope: I use ssh -L 8080:127.0.0.1:8080 to forward it to my machine at school |
22:02.46 | George | Cope: and then I just set my browser to use an http proxy on localhost:8080 |
22:02.53 | Cope | George: hmm; |
22:03.38 | George | It Works :) |
22:03.41 | Cope | George: so from school you just have a browser |
22:03.47 | George | yeah |
22:03.52 | George | and for IRC |
22:03.54 | George | I use irssi |
22:03.54 | Cope | George: ie you dont need an httptunnel client |
22:03.55 | George | in screen |
22:03.59 | George | I do |
22:04.11 | George | the way the httptunnel works |
22:04.17 | George | is it connects to the remote tunnel server |
22:04.19 | Cope | George: that's what I thpught |
22:04.30 | George | and then forwards it from localhost:<some port number> |
22:04.37 | George | so you run the htc client |
22:04.39 | Cope | George: so since I can't run an httptunnel client on my laptop at work, that's a problem |
22:05.04 | Cope | I wonder if mindterm would work |
22:05.09 | George | something like htc -A proxy_user:proxy_pass -F <port> -P <proxy_ip> <tunnel host>:<port> |
22:05.17 | George | then you ssh to localhost:<port> |
22:05.30 | George | Cope: why can't you run it on your laptop at work? |
22:05.34 | George | Cope: httptunnel runs on win32 |
22:05.50 | Cope | George: if there's a binary, sure; But I don't have admin rights on my laptop |
22:05.55 | Cope | George: only pleb user |
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22:07.39 | George | Cope: yeah, there's a binary |
22:08.18 | Cope-Test | mindterm works - but this is still on my old laptop; new laptop may not have java support, and mindterm may not work; |
22:08.22 | George | Cope: any particular reason you want this? :) |
22:08.40 | George | Cope: http://eduardo.cobian.free.fr/gnuht/Win32/Gnu_Http_Tunnel_3_3.zip |
22:08.41 | Cope | George: yeah - new mega-restrictive policy at work |
22:08.48 | Leeds | Cope-Test: can't you use putty, anyway? |
22:08.55 | Cope | Yeah I will have putty |
22:09.10 | Leeds | so there should be no need for mindterm |
22:09.20 | Cope | how so? |
22:09.30 | George | Cope: what exactly do you have access to? |
22:09.35 | Leeds | surely putty > mindterm? |
22:09.39 | George | Cope: and is your internet via a proxy? |
22:09.42 | Cope | George: only http/https |
22:10.07 | Cope | George: not sure if there is a proxy server - there isn't at present; not sure thre will be in future |
22:10.13 | George | Cope: heh, more than I have :) |
22:10.16 | George | Cope: I only have http |
22:10.25 | *** join/#gllug MacLeeds (~richardc@host-212-158-207-148.bulldogdsl.com) |
22:10.36 | George | Cope: ok then, you're going to need httptunnel and putty :) |
22:10.56 | Cope | Leeds: no, mindterm tunnels over http; it doesnt require inbound ssh |
22:11.24 | Cope | George: okay; looking at that zip |
22:11.36 | Leeds | ah, I've never been aware of that - just used it as a standard client |
22:11.59 | George | Cope: and you need to run something like hts -F localhost:22 9000 on your server |
22:12.07 | George | Cope: so you can access ssh on port 9000 |
22:12.20 | Cope | yeah I can do that easily enough |
22:12.23 | George | Cope: or if they're blocking by ports, then hts -F localhost:22 443 :) |
22:12.54 | George | Cope: oh, and the one problem with httptunnel is that you can only use one tunnel for one ssh session at a time |
22:13.24 | Cope | George: shouldn't be a problem - I would just ssh once, and run screen on the remote machine |
22:13.43 | MacLeeds | or use the dynamic proxying |
22:13.46 | George | Cope: yeah, but keep a second tunnel open to localhost:22 just in case |
22:14.01 | George | MacLeeds: dynamic proxying requires a local DNS server |
22:14.42 | George | Cope: because if you lose connection to your server and it hasn't timed out yet at the other end, then you're going to have to wait for it to time out before you can log back in :) |
22:16.04 | MacLeeds | Cope: you open a single tunnel on a single port, but you can tunnel to any port anywhere through it - it looks like a socks server with one end at the ssh client and the other at the server |
22:16.29 | Cope | clever stuff |
22:16.38 | George | it still requires a local DNS server. |
22:17.02 | George | Cope: the way it works is you ssh <host> -D 8000 or whatever |
22:17.16 | George | Cope: then tell your browser or whatever to use localhost:8000 as a socks proxy |
22:17.23 | George | Cope: and ssh will handle the rest |
22:18.46 | George | heh |
22:21.52 | *** join/#gllug Cope-Test (~sanelson@wibbleworld1.demon.co.uk) |
22:23.19 | George | yoyo Cope |
22:25.56 | Cope | ok what sort of thing do I do with htc |
22:26.07 | Cope | having got hts -F 22 443 sorted |
22:27.02 | George | htc -F <port> <remote host>:<remote port> |
22:27.08 | George | then ssh localhost -p <port> |
22:28.47 | Cope | ah |
22:29.01 | Cope | so how can I ssh to localhost on a windows box? |
22:31.03 | George | ssh to 127.0.0.1 |
22:31.04 | George | I suppose |
22:32.01 | Cope | hmm |
22:32.10 | Cope | that doesn't do anything |
22:32.46 | George | you sometimes have to kill it and then try again |
22:32.50 | George | well |
22:32.52 | George | most of the time |
22:32.52 | George | lol |
22:32.56 | George | ssh <bleh> |
22:32.57 | George | CTRL-C |
22:32.59 | George | ssh <bleh> |
22:33.03 | George | normally works the second time |
22:33.08 | George | after you've opened the tunnel |
22:33.41 | Cope | well I did |
22:33.44 | George | hrmm |
22:33.45 | George | odd |
22:33.54 | George | and you've run hts -F localhost:22 443 on your server? |
22:34.00 | Cope | htc -F 22 wibbleworld1.demon.co.uk:443 |
22:34.10 | George | erm |
22:34.11 | Cope | and on server i did: |
22:34.30 | Cope | hts -F localhost:22 443 |
22:34.36 | George | odd |
22:34.47 | Cope | then in putty: |
22:34.52 | Cope | localhost 22 |
22:34.58 | Cope | and 127.0.0.1 22 |
22:35.02 | Cope | no connection |
22:35.13 | George | Cope: Well, my htc won't connect |
22:35.19 | George | Cope: you got firewall set up? |
22:35.29 | Cope | i have opened 443 |
22:35.37 | Cope | to the server on which hts is running |
22:35.55 | George | right |
22:35.56 | George | well |
22:36.01 | George | something's wrong somewhere :) |
22:36.07 | Cope | do you see hts running on your server, in ps? |
22:36.29 | George | yes |
22:36.31 | Cope | ie: ps aux | grep hts |
22:36.47 | Cope | or netstat -an | egrep 'LIST|443' |
22:37.20 | George | yeah, it's there |
22:38.54 | Cope | woo |
22:39.03 | Cope | working now |
22:39.11 | Cope | hts didn't start on the server |
22:39.26 | Cope | because i neeeded to start it as root |
22:39.27 | George | heh |
22:39.29 | George | odd |
22:39.30 | George | anyway |
22:39.32 | George | enjoy :P |
22:39.44 | Cope | we'll see how that goes |
22:39.49 | George | :P |
22:40.19 | Cope | thanks for the htc on win32 hint though |
22:40.24 | George | np |
22:40.34 | Cope | i'd have given up, expecting I needed to be rinning cygwin |
22:40.51 | George | :P |
22:41.44 | Cope | right killed hts, as I don't need it just yet |
22:41.57 | Cope | but at least we have potential for naughtiness. |
22:42.22 | George | haha |
22:42.34 | George | it's useful :) |
22:42.42 | Cope | so why do you have the squid step? |
22:42.50 | George | because |
22:42.51 | Cope | ah - because you can't tunnel through 443 |
22:42.52 | George | I want a proxy |
22:43.03 | George | I can tunnel through 8887 :P |
22:43.19 | George | I use it the ssh/htc etc to connect to my squid proxy at home |
22:43.25 | George | and tell my system here to use that as a proxy |
22:43.35 | Cope | yeah |
22:43.44 | Cope | makes sense |
22:43.51 | George | and I can't use the dynamic forwarding |
22:43.57 | George | because that requires a local DNS server |
22:44.00 | George | which i don't have |
22:45.05 | Cope | right |
23:00.09 | rhowe | IPoDNS :) |
23:00.45 | rhowe | http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1124829.html |
23:01.54 | Cope | he'll be fine |
23:02.04 | Cope | I had a friend called Andrew Peacock at uni |
23:02.12 | Cope | no-one ever made the connection |
23:02.57 | Cope | much meaner was Richard Hole, whose middle name was Simon |
23:03.08 | Cope | R.S.Hole |
23:03.12 | Cope | Poor fellow. |
23:03.19 | rhowe | hehe |
23:04.38 | MacLeeds | speaking as a Dick... funny names aren't funny... |
23:04.56 | Cope | oh gosh |
23:05.13 | Cope | I had never thought of calling him dick hole |
23:05.25 | George | hahaha |
23:05.29 | George | you guys are nuts :P |
23:05.56 | Cope | George: I have a large plant in my room, called George. |
23:06.10 | Cope | Not named after you - I've had him for 4 years |
23:06.11 | MacLeeds | my main PC has been called George for over 9 years |
23:06.22 | George | MacLeeds: really? |
23:06.27 | MacLeeds | yes |
23:06.34 | George | you guys are trying to annoy me, right? |
23:06.44 | George | why the fuck would anyone call a plant/computer George? :) |
23:06.50 | Cope | My best friend's computer is also called George |
23:07.08 | MacLeeds | when I first got a PC, I turned it on, and it asked for a name... I couldn't think of one, so I grabbed the first name which came into my head - which was George. And it stuck... |
23:07.09 | Cope | and my father has a tortoise called george |
23:07.13 | George | this is getting beyond a joke |
23:07.32 | MacLeeds | no, no - I don't think you're beyond ajoke |
23:07.46 | MacLeeds | not *beyond*, surely |
23:07.49 | George | shush |
23:08.13 | Cope | well, we once moved into a house with a waste disposal thing in the sink; we have a family tradition of personifying objects; someone suggested 'jaws' but my grandfather misheard, and called it george - the name stuck. |
23:08.24 | MacLeeds | lol |
23:08.28 | George | just be quiet all you people |
23:08.34 | George | this is obviously a load of tripe :) |
23:08.37 | Cope | i think george is a super name |
23:08.44 | Cope | it reminds me of enid blyton stories. |
23:08.52 | MacLeeds | particularly for a girl |
23:09.06 | George | fuck you |
23:09.09 | George | (leeds) |
23:09.32 | George | Cope: bah |
23:09.47 | George | woot. |
23:09.50 | George | no thanks. |
23:09.52 | MacLeeds | George: you'll never have seen the show Dead Like Me - which I've mentioned here before - and which is about an 18-year old, pretty, dead girl called George - 'sort' for Georgia |
23:09.56 | George | I have better things to do with my time. |
23:10.03 | Cope | Also might find some rather rough people in the process. |
23:10.34 | Cope | i don't know any other Georges. |
23:10.42 | MacLeeds | never! :-) |
23:11.11 | Cope | Just 2 computers, a plant, a tortoise, a waste disposal machine, a tom-boy in enid blyton books, a pretty dead girl, and George. |
23:11.42 | MacLeeds | that should be pretty, dead, not "pretty dead" |
23:11.46 | George | This is insanity. |
23:11.53 | George | you don't know Saint George? |
23:11.56 | George | your PATRON SAINT? |
23:11.59 | George | after whom I was named |
23:12.04 | Cope | ibot george is also 2 computers, a plant, a tortoise, a waste disposal machine, a tom-boy in enid blyton books, a pretty, dead girl, and George. |
23:12.06 | ibot | Cope: okay |
23:12.15 | George | ~George |
23:12.17 | ibot | rumour has it, george is a kde lover. 12 years old, or 2 computers, a plant, a tortoise, a waste disposal machine, a tom-boy in enid blyton books, a pretty, dead girl, and George. |
23:12.17 | rhowe | ahaha |
23:12.25 | George | 12 years old? |
23:12.27 | George | what the hell? |
23:12.44 | MacLeeds | mental age, obviously |
23:12.56 | Cope | when are you 18 George ? |
23:13.04 | George | in two years |
23:13.13 | Cope | ah - I thought you were 17 |
23:13.43 | Cope | in which month is your birthday - it was this summer, wasn't it? |
23:13.47 | George | no |
23:13.49 | George | Easter |
23:13.51 | George | March |
23:13.52 | Cope | oh ok |
23:14.07 | George | why are you asking me all this? :P |
23:14.08 | Cope | if it was xmas, we could have had a special party |
23:14.22 | Cope | george is 18 and Cope is 30 |
23:14.35 | George | heh |
23:14.50 | MacLeeds | Cope: you're old! |
23:14.58 | Cope | gosh - that number looks big when I type it. |
23:15.01 | rhowe | ibot george is also 12 years younger than Cope |
23:15.03 | ibot | rhowe: okay |
23:15.41 | George | ibot: george is also gwright@kde.org |
23:15.42 | ibot | George: okay |
23:15.42 | MacLeeds | rhowe: if you find out any more interesting facts about Johnny the Jew from Leeds, like say his surname, let me know :-) |
23:16.05 | rhowe | MacLeeds: OK :) |
23:16.08 | Cope | ibot george is also a fine fellow |
23:16.09 | ibot | Cope: okay |
23:16.15 | George | I am?> |
23:16.19 | Cope | I think so. |
23:16.21 | George | lol |
23:16.23 | Cope | ibot george |
23:16.23 | ibot | i heard george is a kde lover. 12 years old, or 2 computers, a plant, a tortoise, a waste disposal machine, a tom-boy in enid blyton books, a pretty, dead girl, and George. 12 years younger than Cope, or gwright@kde.org, or a fine fellow |
23:16.35 | George | bloody hell. |
23:16.36 | MacLeeds | 1bot george is also possibly a prat-bot - we've not decided yet |
23:17.00 | George | prat-bot? |
23:17.02 | George | gah |
23:17.05 | George | you people are such bullies |
23:17.11 | George | I'm a nice guy, really :) |
23:17.38 | *** join/#gllug pawel (~pawel@client-82-3-255-10.glfd.adsl.virgin.net) |
23:17.49 | MacLeeds | morning pawel |
23:18.04 | pawel | MacLeeds: ah, how are you doing man? |
23:18.08 | Cope | yo pawel |
23:18.22 | pawel | MacLeeds: when did you left the hospital? |
23:18.35 | MacLeeds | pawel: oh, ages ago - on the 16th |
23:18.38 | pawel | Cope: y0. :> |
23:18.49 | pawel | MacLeeds: and how is it going? |
23:18.54 | MacLeeds | feeling pretty decent now - a bit tired, a minor drug habit, but apart from that it's okay |
23:19.02 | Cope | right - I'm going to bed; |
23:19.07 | pawel | Cope: no! |
23:19.15 | Cope | George: thanks for helping with hts && htc. |
23:19.16 | pawel | Cope: i just came. |
23:19.22 | George | Cope: np |
23:19.33 | pawel | Cope: who am I going to talk to!# |
23:19.34 | MacLeeds | George: been there, done that - it made my stomach hurt like hell |
23:19.50 | pawel | ibot: punch Cope |
23:19.52 | ibot | ACTION hits Cope like the hot kiss and the end of a wet fist |
23:20.00 | George | MacLeeds: lol |
23:20.12 | pawel | :> |
23:20.20 | Cope | pawel: If I can't sleep, I'll come back and talk to you. |
23:20.36 | George | it's Katring! |
23:20.37 | George | :P |
23:20.37 | MacLeeds | George: they gave me morphine to try to stop the pain - it worked, eventually |
23:20.41 | Cope | But I am tired, so I'm going to see what happens if I lie down in bed in a darkened room. |
23:20.44 | George | MacLeeds: lol |
23:20.55 | Katrina | oops :) |
23:21.01 | MacLeeds | heh |
23:21.05 | George | ibot: George |
23:21.06 | ibot | you are, like, a kde lover. 12 years old, or 2 computers, a plant, a tortoise, a waste disposal machine, a tom-boy in enid blyton books, a pretty, dead girl, and George. 12 years younger than Cope, or gwright@kde.org, or a fine fellow |
23:21.10 | George | hrmm. |
23:21.13 | George | ibot: Leeds |
23:21.13 | ibot | somebody said leeds was a bloke called Richard in the UK or spending too much time playing with expensive electronic toys or a genius or whatever you want him to be, or nekkid, or a place in the norf, or a rubbish footie team, or damn nearly bankrupt, or better than google. relegated :-( |
23:21.13 | pawel | Cope: well, I would prefer to stay. :> |
23:21.18 | George | "nekkid"??????? |
23:21.23 | George | ARGH, MUST FIGHT IMAGE |
23:21.34 | pawel | ibot: pawel |
23:21.35 | ibot | somebody said pawel was a Pole |
23:21.35 | MacLeeds | almost... I *am* in bed, after all |
23:21.42 | Katrina | ibot: Katrina |
23:21.47 | Katrina | :d |
23:21.52 | George | ibot: Katrina |
23:21.55 | George | ibot's dead |
23:22.00 | pawel | Katrina: need to him to a pub first. |
23:22.06 | Cope | ibot katrina is possibly a girl |
23:22.07 | ibot | okay, Cope |
23:22.07 | Katrina | in english? :) |
23:22.12 | George | Katrina is a girl? |
23:22.13 | George | WTF? |
23:22.17 | George | A GIRL IN HERE?!!?! |
23:22.22 | pawel | s/"nee to"/"need to take"/ |
23:22.23 | pawel | :> |
23:22.27 | MacLeeds | Katrina: did you not see what ibot just said about pawel ??? |
23:22.30 | pawel | Katrina: need to take him to a pub first. |
23:22.47 | Katrina | i'm more of a microwave oven than a grill |
23:23.02 | pawel | Katrina: sorry about that, I just forgot to type that word. :> |
23:23.04 | Marios_ | hahahaaa |
23:23.04 | Cope | in which case clyphox will blow you up |
23:23.12 | Cope | ibot clyphox |
23:23.13 | ibot | [clyphox] a man of his word. |
23:23.13 | MacLeeds | fast, efficient, and very dangerous without the right shielding? |
23:23.20 | Marios_ | microwave oven !! |
23:23.26 | pawel | :/ |
23:23.30 | Katrina | <pawel> Katrina: sorry about that, I just forgot to type that word. :> <--- hehe :) |
23:23.31 | Cope | ibot clyphox is also someone who blows up microwave ovens |
23:23.32 | ibot | Cope: okay |
23:23.38 | Katrina | w00t |
23:23.40 | MacLeeds | morning Marios_ |
23:23.41 | Katrina | i get to be blown up |
23:23.52 | Marios_ | MacLeeds: It is evening here ;) |
23:23.55 | rhowe | ibot Katrina |
23:23.56 | ibot | katrina is probably possibly a girl |
23:24.15 | MacLeeds | ibot Katrina is also in need of being blown up |
23:24.16 | ibot | okay, MacLeeds |
23:24.43 | Katrina | ibot: katrina |
23:24.44 | ibot | rumour has it, katrina is possibly a girl, or in need of being blown up |
23:24.47 | Katrina | w00t |
23:25.24 | yellowsuite | :-S |
23:25.24 | Cope | ibot cope |
23:25.25 | ibot | hmm... cope is the father of William, a geek in the making, or a big breadbox filled with crumbs of loveable humour. not coping, or chuckling like a maniac, or rabid |
23:25.47 | yellowsuite | Cope: type some true. |
23:25.47 | Marios_ | ibot Marios_ |
23:25.48 | yellowsuite | :/ |
23:25.55 | Marios_ | lol |
23:26.05 | Marios_ | no answer ;) |
23:26.13 | Marios_ | MacLeeds: how do you feel? |
23:26.19 | MacLeeds | sleepy :-) |
23:26.33 | Cope | ibot no Cope is the father of William, a geek in the making, or a big breadbox filled with crumbs of loveable humour, not coping, chuckling like a maniac or rabid |
23:26.34 | ibot | Cope: okay |
23:26.38 | Cope | ibot cope |
23:26.40 | ibot | somebody said cope was the father of William, a geek in the making, or a big breadbox filled with crumbs of loveable humour, not coping, chuckling like a maniac or rabid |
23:26.47 | Cope | That's better. |
23:27.08 | MacLeeds | sleep time |
23:27.13 | MacLeeds | bye, all |
23:27.18 | Marios_ | bye bye Leeds |
23:27.20 | George | nite |
23:27.22 | George | Leeds |
23:27.23 | George | :P |
23:27.25 | Marios_ | hahahahah |
23:27.31 | Cope | night chums |
23:27.45 | MacLeeds | we could all go to bed together one night... |