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15:37.59GeorgeARGH!
15:46.45Katrinao.o
15:50.40Georgeargh
15:50.43Georgeyou're not dead
15:51.14Katrinakeep going
15:51.17Georgewhy?
15:51.31Katrinayou just gonna leave a job half finished?
15:51.39Katrinapsh, typical male :|
15:51.51Georgebitch.
16:00.32rhoweLeeds: Just had a call from someone about the flat - he wants to look at it tomorrow
16:00.46rhoweLeeds: Jewish guy called Johnny from Leeds. No relation? :)
16:04.21Coperhowe: :-)
16:09.42rhoweCope: Just replied to your email btw - poke David for me, will you? :)
16:18.12Copeyeah sure
16:18.18Copehe's at work now.
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16:38.07mozratAfternoon guys
16:38.14mozrat(and what a wet afternoon it is!_
16:39.41Katrinaindeed
16:39.49Katrinait's the afternoon before the morning i head off to ui :s
16:39.51Katrinauni*
16:40.13mozratgoing back to Uni, or actually *going* to uni <gulp>!!
16:40.30Katrinagoing to uni :s
16:40.48mozratgood luck Katrina
16:40.52Katrinathanks
16:40.59mozratI'm sure you'll enjoy it :D
16:41.15Katrinai'm so scared i won't have anywhere to stay or stuff like that, even though i sorted it all out :x
16:41.48Katrinaor i'll've forgotten something important
16:42.25mozratwhere are you going, and to study what?
16:42.26Katrina:s
16:42.32Katrinasouthampton, computer engineering
16:42.43mozratcool
16:42.50mozratis that local(ish) for you?
16:43.14Katrinait's about 1.5-2 hours drive away
16:43.27Katrinaso it's quite far but not so far that i can't come home occasionally if i really really need to
16:43.45mozratthats good
16:46.48mozratquestion for the channel -- does anyone know if it possible to write custom Symantec virus defs?
16:48.42Copeyep - its possible.
16:48.44CopeHTH :-)
16:50.03rhoweTime to go buy the essentials, methinks. Bread, milk, cheese
16:54.14Katrinacoffee
16:56.47mozratthanks man
17:01.37rhoweMask of Zorro on BBC1 :)
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17:15.38Marios_Hello !
17:16.47mozratHi Marios_
17:22.01Marios_mozrat: you are not still at work right?
17:22.06mozratwell
17:22.13mozratat home, but working on a problem atm :(
17:22.25Marios_at least you are home...
17:22.30mozrat:)
17:22.31mozratyep
17:22.47Marios_I just woke up and trying to make my old PDA working on wi-fi
17:23.38mozratwhich PDA?
17:24.39Marios_cassiopeia BE300
17:25.07mozratcool
17:25.44mozratI saw a Sharp Zaurus SL550 today for sale for £110
17:25.47Marios_how do you make it working with GPRS ?
17:25.57Marios_that one is very good too
17:26.01Marios_mine is old
17:26.01mozratI had one before that got busted, and I was tempted to get it
17:26.09mozratI would have a spare battery, cradle etc
17:26.14mozratbut I didn't :(
17:26.49Marios_have you tries a Linux one/
17:26.49Marios_?
17:27.35mozratthe Zaurus is Linux
17:27.41Marios_ohh
17:27.58Marios_I confused it with something else
17:28.13mozratthe default Sharp ROM is Linux, but a little hard to get to... the OpenZaurus ROM image is awesome
17:28.56Marios_you can easily load the OpenZaurus right?
17:29.08mozratyeah, very easy with a CF card
17:29.12mozratload the image on the card
17:29.20mozratreboot zaurus holding down 2 buttone
17:29.24mozratbuttons*
17:29.28mozratand wait about 5 minutes
17:29.37mozrathave you seen this Marios_ >> http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20040930.html
17:29.37Marios_can you load it from a PC?
17:29.50mozratthat guy is a big zaurus user :)
17:31.18Marios_let me read it
17:34.55Marios_cool !!
17:35.05Marios_must be a really good PDA
17:35.07Marios_;)
17:37.47Marios_only Sharp has Linux PDAs ?
17:38.48Marios_Geroge: 5500 or 6000?
17:40.27mozratMarios_: I believe you can get Linux onto PocketPC devices, but the Sharp has the biggest community etc
17:40.54Marios_their two products have been discontinued
17:41.01Marios_this is what amazon says
17:41.47mozratgeorge, where did Zaurus Zone go to?
17:41.52mozratdid it shut down??
17:42.40Georgemozrat: no idea
17:42.44Georgemozrat: I haven't used it in a while
17:42.47mozrathmm
17:44.16Marios_mozrat: how can you access GPRS from a PDA? I know for wi-fi you need a wireless card obviously
17:44.40mozratYou need a GPRS card I guess -- I have a PCMCIA one
17:45.20mozratyou should be able to buy Compact Flash GPRS cards
17:45.33mozrathttp://www.laipac.com/gsm-gprs-compact-flash-card.htm
17:46.01mozratand of course the dialer software if that vendor doesn't support Linux
17:46.28Marios_oh great..this is what I wanted
17:47.12Marios_have you ever wrote programs for a PDA?
17:48.48mozratnope
17:48.53mozratbut I might start soon
17:49.08mozratyou can compile stuff on the Zaurus too which is nice
17:49.14mozratand also SSH into it, VNC onto it
17:49.45Marios_cool
19:23.28Copezaurus has the biggest community? Since when!?
19:47.56CopeGeorge
19:47.59Cope:-)
19:53.22Georgewhat the hell?
19:53.28GeorgeZaurus has a piss poor community
19:53.44GeorgeCope: do you know how to use a HP 49 calculator?
19:59.10CopeWhat do you want to do? Graphing?
19:59.15Georgeno
19:59.32GeorgeI want to get it to spurt out the decimal answer to sqrt(8) instead of saying it's 2*sqrt(8) :)
20:04.02Copeah - its not giving you real numbers.
20:04.04Copeok
20:05.32Georgeany idea? :)
20:05.48Copeyeah... just looking at some old notes
20:06.03Georgeyou have a HP 49?
20:06.15Copeno - but i've used an hp48
20:08.35Georgeright
20:10.26Copesorry George - can't find anything
20:10.36Copei'll have a google though
20:10.50rhoweGeorge: How can sqrt(8) = 2*sqrt(8)?
20:10.59Georges/8/2
20:11.21rhowemakes a bit more sense :)
20:11.41Georgeaha
20:11.43GeorgeI seeeee
20:11.48GeorgeI can do sqrt(2.)
20:11.49Georgeer.
20:11.54Georgesqrt(8.)
20:11.58Georgeand it'll spurt out the real answer
20:12.08Georgeit differentiates between integers and real numbers by appending dots
20:12.20George"The HP49 adds a new number type: integers. To differentiate between the real number and integer data types, the HP49 never shows a decimal point on integers and always shows a decimal point on real numbers."
20:12.28Georgeapparently the HP48 didn't do that
20:19.22Copeah tight
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20:20.57Copeaha
20:21.05Copemozrat - I've been expecting you.
20:21.17mozrathe he
20:21.35Copewhat are these viscous rumours you've been spreading?
20:21.40Copeabout the zaurus community
20:21.49mozratnothing boss
20:21.58Copei have a zaurus
20:22.01Copebut i never use it
20:22.07Copeits battery life is too short
20:22.31Georgemy zaurus sucks :)
20:22.34Copeits got openzaurus on it at present
20:22.53Copeif i could get it to do something useful, I might get interested in it again
20:22.59Copebut now its just a brick
20:23.01mozratI have a OZ as well
20:23.11mozratand nearly bought another
20:23.13mozrattoday
20:23.16Copegosh
20:23.27GeorgeCope: which Zaurus do you have?
20:23.30Cope5500
20:23.37Georgeah
20:23.48Copeoooh
20:24.02Copemozrat: what do you do with yours? is it a 5500?
20:26.10mozrat5500 yes, and it is broken at the mo
20:26.17Cope:-(
20:26.17mozrathence the near impulse buy today
20:26.19Copehow so?
20:26.21mozratyeah, bummer
20:26.26Copeyou can buy mine
20:26.28Copei need the dosh!
20:26.37mozratdunno -- was in the drawer for ages and when I bought it out it was dead
20:26.43Copeunless you convince me that its ace
20:26.55Copethen I might get excited about it and play with it again
20:29.08mozratwell did you read the link I posted to Marios_ earlier
20:29.13Copeno
20:31.02Copehmm
20:31.02Marios_Cope: go read ...it was very interesting
20:31.06Copeinteresting
20:31.34mozrathttp://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20040930.html
20:31.48mozratthat guy uses it with a full screen monitor and keyboard/mouse
20:31.54mozratwhich I have never seen the kit for
20:32.04mozratI'm dubious about that to be honets
20:32.05mozrathonest
20:32.15mozratI'm trying to track him down and ask him about it
20:32.29Copeinteresting
20:32.31mozratand that wasn't a 5500 anyway
20:32.33Copeno
20:32.44mozratbah, you guys are going to make me go and buy that 5500 now :(
20:32.47mozratdamn you all
20:32.53mozrat(esp you Marios_ )
20:32.55mozrat:D
20:32.56Copehow much was it?
20:32.59mozrat£110
20:33.02Copehmm
20:33.12mozratbut I want a newer one really
20:33.14Marios_hahahaah
20:33.17mozratwww.shirtpocket.co.uk
20:33.42mozratCope: to be honest I really need to not spend random £100 notes on gadgets at the moment
20:33.51Marios_I spent the last 2 days looking for a good PDA to use it and also play around with it...making new applications and installing Linux
20:34.05mozratNovember is birthday galore month in my family, and there is some sort of religious festival in December
20:34.15Copeindeed
20:34.22Copehence why 100 quid would go down well!
20:34.24Cope:-D
20:34.29Copenever mind
20:34.34mozratso thanks for the offer.. but I'm trying to resist the temptation
20:34.43mozratyou can give it to me for Christmas if you must
20:34.47Copei do need to use it, otherwise I'll just get pissed off at having an unused gadget
20:34.52mozratyep
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21:05.36mozrathey donkey
21:06.38Marios_where did you see a donkey? ;)
21:13.41Eeyoremozrat: SLIB - second leave is best
21:13.42Eeyore?
21:14.10mozratI was trying to think of a catchphrase for Eeyore
21:14.21mozrathe really doesn't have any apart from being grumpy
21:14.38mozratMarios_: Eeyore is the donkey in Winnie the Pooh
21:14.40mozratLD
21:14.42mozrat:D
21:14.55mozrats/LD// #stupid fingers
21:15.06Marios_ohh yeah
21:15.17Marios_probably I am too old to remember that
21:15.24Eeyoremozrat: "After all, what are birthdays? Here today and gone tomorrow."
21:15.49mozratyeah, but it's not a classic catchphrase like "Bouncing is what Tiggers do best"
21:16.01mozrator "Theres a rumbly in my tumbly"
21:16.03Eeyorehmmm
21:16.24mozratDammit -- must stop exposing how much I know about kids TV on public IRC channels
21:16.45Eeyoremozrat: this is not kids tv - its classic english literature
21:17.07mozrattrue true
21:17.50Marios_hheehe
21:18.24Leedsrhowe: ping?
21:18.40Eeyoreaha! a leeds
21:18.53LeedsEeyore: are you sure?
21:19.57EeyoreLeeds: you look like a leeds - the clue is in the letters: L e e d s
21:20.05Leedssuppose so
21:20.13EeyoreYou could be an imposter, I suppose.
21:20.51LeedsI don't think I am, but you can never be too sure
21:21.21Eeyoreare you still in Leeds?
21:21.30Leedsoh, no - been down here since Monday evening
21:21.36Eeyorehooray
21:21.50Leedsyes
21:22.12Eeyoredid you go back to work?
21:22.23Leedswent for lunch round at a cousin's place today, got back after 9pm, via Tesco
21:22.33Leedsyeah, I went back on Tuesday, gave everyone a shock
21:22.36Leedsah!
21:22.50rhoweLeeds: pong
21:22.56Copewoo! an rhowe
21:22.57Leedsrhowe: Johnny what?
21:23.06rhoweLeeds: Dunno
21:23.22Leedsany more info than Jewish and from Leeds?
21:23.27Copelol
21:23.31mozratanyone seen (mad about) shaun of the dead?
21:23.35rhoweCan tell you the last few digits of his mobile #, if you like :)
21:23.45Leedsprobably not helpful
21:23.45CopeYeah - he came into the farm on Thursday
21:23.45rhowemozrat: mad about?
21:23.58mozratif so please go and help this poor obsessed woman out >> http://www.openzombie.org.uk/
21:24.02Leedsmozrat: it's good - a lot like a feature-length Spaced - but not amazingly great
21:24.05mozratrhowe: mad about sotd
21:24.21rhowemozrat: Different to shaun of the dead?
21:25.09Leedspossibly an example of open$FOO being taken a little too far
21:26.01Leedsbye-bye mozrat
21:27.19rhoweHrm, the FAQ should begin with "WHY?"
21:28.11CopeThe answer is: because evil employer has restricted traffic from desktop to http/https
21:28.43Copeand I don't like not being connected to home machines
21:28.50Copeand I don't like being unable to irc
21:29.32Marios_who is that evil employer?
21:29.37rhoweMCI
21:29.54Marios_very bad
21:30.46Copei dunno - they pay me money for playing with nice computers
21:30.57rhoweAs long as they have a web interface
21:31.04Copeno
21:31.16CopeI can connect to any client machines on ssh etc
21:31.24CopeI just can't connect outside MCI
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21:31.38rhoweClient machines are all inside MCI?
21:31.43LeedsNumz: hello, good evening, and welcome
21:31.43Copeof course
21:31.51Copewe do managed hosting
21:32.00Copewhere else would the machines be, other than in our farms?
21:32.13rhoweClient's sites?
21:32.26rhoweAre client machines similarly restricted?
21:32.27CopeAh no - the whole point is they don't have machines on their sites.
21:32.59Copeyeah - obviously one can't irc from the FBI's db server
21:33.07Cope(s)
21:33.30rhoweThe FBI probably do :P
21:33.35Copelol
21:33.37Copemaybe
21:33.53Copeanyway - yes, of course I could run irssi on client boxes, but it wouldn't be a good thing to do.
21:35.17CopeSo - what i need is a way to connect to my machines, when all I have is http/https
21:35.39rhoweRun an SSH server on port 80? :)
21:35.59LeedsI've done IRC over http(-proxy) for a long time from work, switching back and forth with IRC over socks depending on which proxy is more friendly on the day
21:36.24rhoweCould you not ssh from a client's box to your box at home?
21:36.35rhoweThat's somewhat less riskier than irssi on their box
21:37.05Copenot something I want to do; I would rather work out how to do as Leeds is saying
21:37.23Leedsit's a menu option in xchat :-)
21:37.31Copeyes I 'could' ssh to home from client boxes, but I wouldn't feel comfortable with it
21:37.46CopeLeeds: that program that runs well on windows xp with no admin rights?
21:38.16Leedsthat's beyond the #gllug support contract terms...
21:38.29Copenot really
21:38.53CopeI want to run a linux proxy server at home, so I can connect to it from work using a browser,
21:38.57Cope:)
21:38.57CopeOr whatever
21:53.29CopeGeorge: ping
21:53.30Leedsso what you really want is the openssh dynamic proxying
21:54.13Leedsbut you've got a bootstrap problem
21:56.23GeorgeCope: pong
21:56.36Copeyeah - anything that is going to run on my laptop just needs to be a binary - a single executeable
21:56.56CopeGeorge: I had recollection that you did something evil at school last term - some kind of proxy thing?
21:57.25CopeGeorge: although you weren't handicapped by having to use windows
21:59.19GeorgeCope: yeah
21:59.22GeorgeCope: same this term too
21:59.36GeorgeCope: what do you want to know?
22:00.26rhoweo.O Sam West is the son of the woman who played Cybill in Fawlty Towers?!
22:00.50GeorgePrunella Scales?
22:00.55rhoweThat'll be her
22:01.12GeorgeCope: basically
22:01.22GeorgeCope: the system I have at school is a very evil kludgy tunnel
22:01.45GeorgeCope: I have an httptunnel server running at home on port 8887 forwarding to localhost:22 so that I can connect to the local ssh server via the http tunnel
22:01.57GeorgeCope: I then use ssh to connect to the ssh server via httptunnel
22:02.10GeorgeCope: I then have squid installed on my server at home on port 8080
22:02.32GeorgeCope: I use ssh -L 8080:127.0.0.1:8080 to forward it to my machine at school
22:02.46GeorgeCope: and then I just set my browser to use an http proxy on localhost:8080
22:02.53CopeGeorge: hmm;
22:03.38GeorgeIt Works :)
22:03.41CopeGeorge: so from school you just have a browser
22:03.47Georgeyeah
22:03.52Georgeand for IRC
22:03.54GeorgeI use irssi
22:03.54CopeGeorge: ie you dont need an httptunnel client
22:03.55Georgein screen
22:03.59GeorgeI do
22:04.11Georgethe way the httptunnel works
22:04.17Georgeis it connects to the remote tunnel server
22:04.19CopeGeorge: that's what I thpught
22:04.30Georgeand then forwards it from localhost:<some port number>
22:04.37Georgeso you run the htc client
22:04.39CopeGeorge: so since I can't run an httptunnel client on my laptop at work, that's a problem
22:05.04CopeI wonder if mindterm would work
22:05.09Georgesomething like htc -A proxy_user:proxy_pass -F <port> -P <proxy_ip> <tunnel host>:<port>
22:05.17Georgethen you ssh to localhost:<port>
22:05.30GeorgeCope: why can't you run it on your laptop at work?
22:05.34GeorgeCope: httptunnel runs on win32
22:05.50CopeGeorge: if there's a binary, sure; But I don't have admin rights on my laptop
22:05.55CopeGeorge: only pleb user
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22:07.39GeorgeCope: yeah, there's a binary
22:08.18Cope-Testmindterm works - but this is still on my old laptop; new laptop may not have java support, and mindterm may not work;
22:08.22GeorgeCope: any particular reason you want this? :)
22:08.40GeorgeCope: http://eduardo.cobian.free.fr/gnuht/Win32/Gnu_Http_Tunnel_3_3.zip
22:08.41CopeGeorge: yeah - new mega-restrictive policy at work
22:08.48LeedsCope-Test: can't you use putty, anyway?
22:08.55CopeYeah I will have putty
22:09.10Leedsso there should be no need for mindterm
22:09.20Copehow so?
22:09.30GeorgeCope: what exactly do you have access to?
22:09.35Leedssurely putty > mindterm?
22:09.39GeorgeCope: and is your internet via a proxy?
22:09.42CopeGeorge: only http/https
22:10.07CopeGeorge: not sure if there is a proxy server - there isn't at present; not sure thre will be in future
22:10.13GeorgeCope: heh, more than I have :)
22:10.16GeorgeCope: I only have http
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22:10.36GeorgeCope: ok then, you're going to need httptunnel and putty :)
22:10.56CopeLeeds: no, mindterm tunnels over http; it doesnt require inbound ssh
22:11.24CopeGeorge: okay; looking at that zip
22:11.36Leedsah, I've never been aware of that - just used it as a standard client
22:11.59GeorgeCope: and you need to run something like hts -F localhost:22 9000 on your server
22:12.07GeorgeCope: so you can access ssh on port 9000
22:12.20Copeyeah I can do that easily enough
22:12.23GeorgeCope: or if they're blocking by ports, then hts -F localhost:22 443 :)
22:12.54GeorgeCope: oh, and the one problem with httptunnel is that you can only use one tunnel for one ssh session at a time
22:13.24CopeGeorge: shouldn't be a problem - I would just ssh once, and run screen on the remote machine
22:13.43MacLeedsor use the dynamic proxying
22:13.46GeorgeCope: yeah, but keep a second tunnel open to localhost:22 just in case
22:14.01GeorgeMacLeeds: dynamic proxying requires a local DNS server
22:14.42GeorgeCope: because if you lose connection to your server and it hasn't timed out yet at the other end, then you're going to have to wait for it to time out before you can log back in :)
22:16.04MacLeedsCope: you open a single tunnel on a single port, but you can tunnel to any port anywhere through it - it looks like a socks server with one end at the ssh client and the other at the server
22:16.29Copeclever stuff
22:16.38Georgeit still requires a local DNS server.
22:17.02GeorgeCope: the way it works is you ssh <host> -D 8000 or whatever
22:17.16GeorgeCope: then tell your browser or whatever to use localhost:8000 as a socks proxy
22:17.23GeorgeCope: and ssh will handle the rest
22:18.46Georgeheh
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22:23.19Georgeyoyo Cope
22:25.56Copeok what sort of thing do I do with htc
22:26.07Copehaving got hts -F 22 443 sorted
22:27.02Georgehtc -F <port> <remote host>:<remote port>
22:27.08Georgethen ssh localhost -p <port>
22:28.47Copeah
22:29.01Copeso how can I ssh to localhost on a windows box?
22:31.03Georgessh to 127.0.0.1
22:31.04GeorgeI suppose
22:32.01Copehmm
22:32.10Copethat doesn't do anything
22:32.46Georgeyou sometimes have to kill it and then try again
22:32.50Georgewell
22:32.52Georgemost of the time
22:32.52Georgelol
22:32.56Georgessh <bleh>
22:32.57GeorgeCTRL-C
22:32.59Georgessh <bleh>
22:33.03Georgenormally works the second time
22:33.08Georgeafter you've opened the tunnel
22:33.41Copewell I did
22:33.44Georgehrmm
22:33.45Georgeodd
22:33.54Georgeand you've run hts -F localhost:22 443 on your server?
22:34.00Copehtc -F 22 wibbleworld1.demon.co.uk:443
22:34.10Georgeerm
22:34.11Copeand on server i did:
22:34.30Copehts -F localhost:22 443
22:34.36Georgeodd
22:34.47Copethen in putty:
22:34.52Copelocalhost 22
22:34.58Copeand 127.0.0.1 22
22:35.02Copeno connection
22:35.13GeorgeCope: Well, my htc won't connect
22:35.19GeorgeCope: you got firewall set up?
22:35.29Copei have opened 443
22:35.37Copeto the server on which hts is running
22:35.55Georgeright
22:35.56Georgewell
22:36.01Georgesomething's wrong somewhere :)
22:36.07Copedo you see hts running on your server, in ps?
22:36.29Georgeyes
22:36.31Copeie: ps aux | grep hts
22:36.47Copeor netstat -an | egrep 'LIST|443'
22:37.20Georgeyeah, it's there
22:38.54Copewoo
22:39.03Copeworking now
22:39.11Copehts didn't start on the server
22:39.26Copebecause i neeeded to start it as root
22:39.27Georgeheh
22:39.29Georgeodd
22:39.30Georgeanyway
22:39.32Georgeenjoy :P
22:39.44Copewe'll see how that goes
22:39.49George:P
22:40.19Copethanks for the htc on win32 hint though
22:40.24Georgenp
22:40.34Copei'd have given up, expecting I needed  to be rinning cygwin
22:40.51George:P
22:41.44Coperight killed hts, as I don't need it just yet
22:41.57Copebut at least we have potential for naughtiness.
22:42.22Georgehaha
22:42.34Georgeit's useful :)
22:42.42Copeso why do you have the squid step?
22:42.50Georgebecause
22:42.51Copeah - because you can't tunnel through 443
22:42.52GeorgeI want a proxy
22:43.03GeorgeI can tunnel through 8887 :P
22:43.19GeorgeI use it the ssh/htc etc to connect to my squid proxy at home
22:43.25Georgeand tell my system here to use that as a proxy
22:43.35Copeyeah
22:43.44Copemakes sense
22:43.51Georgeand I can't use the dynamic forwarding
22:43.57Georgebecause that requires a local DNS server
22:44.00Georgewhich i don't have
22:45.05Coperight
23:00.09rhoweIPoDNS :)
23:00.45rhowehttp://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1124829.html
23:01.54Copehe'll be fine
23:02.04CopeI had a friend called Andrew Peacock at uni
23:02.12Copeno-one ever made the connection
23:02.57Copemuch meaner was Richard Hole, whose middle name was Simon
23:03.08CopeR.S.Hole
23:03.12CopePoor fellow.
23:03.19rhowehehe
23:04.38MacLeedsspeaking as a Dick... funny names aren't funny...
23:04.56Copeoh gosh
23:05.13CopeI had never thought of calling him dick hole
23:05.25Georgehahaha
23:05.29Georgeyou guys are nuts :P
23:05.56CopeGeorge: I have a large plant in my room, called George.
23:06.10CopeNot named after you - I've had him for 4 years
23:06.11MacLeedsmy main PC has been called George for over 9 years
23:06.22GeorgeMacLeeds: really?
23:06.27MacLeedsyes
23:06.34Georgeyou guys are trying to annoy me, right?
23:06.44Georgewhy the fuck would anyone call a plant/computer George? :)
23:06.50CopeMy best friend's computer is also called George
23:07.08MacLeedswhen I first got a PC, I turned it on, and it asked for a name... I couldn't think of one, so I grabbed the first name which came into my head - which was George.  And it stuck...
23:07.09Copeand my father has a tortoise called george
23:07.13Georgethis is getting beyond a joke
23:07.32MacLeedsno, no - I don't think you're beyond ajoke
23:07.46MacLeedsnot *beyond*, surely
23:07.49Georgeshush
23:08.13Copewell, we once moved into a house with a waste disposal thing in the sink; we have a family tradition of personifying objects; someone suggested 'jaws' but my grandfather misheard, and called it george - the name stuck.
23:08.24MacLeedslol
23:08.28Georgejust be quiet all you people
23:08.34Georgethis is obviously a load of tripe :)
23:08.37Copei think george is a super name
23:08.44Copeit reminds me of enid blyton stories.
23:08.52MacLeedsparticularly for a girl
23:09.06Georgefuck you
23:09.09George(leeds)
23:09.32GeorgeCope: bah
23:09.47Georgewoot.
23:09.50Georgeno thanks.
23:09.52MacLeedsGeorge: you'll never have seen the show Dead Like Me - which I've mentioned here before - and which is about an 18-year old, pretty, dead girl called George - 'sort' for Georgia
23:09.56GeorgeI have better things to do with my time.
23:10.03CopeAlso might find some rather rough people in the process.
23:10.34Copei don't know any other Georges.
23:10.42MacLeedsnever! :-)
23:11.11CopeJust 2 computers, a plant, a tortoise, a waste disposal machine, a tom-boy in enid blyton books, a pretty dead girl, and George.
23:11.42MacLeedsthat should be pretty, dead, not "pretty dead"
23:11.46GeorgeThis is insanity.
23:11.53Georgeyou don't know Saint George?
23:11.56Georgeyour PATRON SAINT?
23:11.59Georgeafter whom I was named
23:12.04Copeibot george is also 2 computers, a plant, a tortoise, a waste disposal machine, a tom-boy in enid blyton books, a pretty, dead girl, and George.
23:12.06ibotCope: okay
23:12.15George~George
23:12.17ibotrumour has it, george is a kde lover. 12 years old, or 2 computers, a plant, a tortoise, a waste disposal machine, a tom-boy in enid blyton books, a pretty, dead girl, and George.
23:12.17rhoweahaha
23:12.25George12 years old?
23:12.27Georgewhat the hell?
23:12.44MacLeedsmental age, obviously
23:12.56Copewhen are you 18 George ?
23:13.04Georgein two years
23:13.13Copeah - I thought you were 17
23:13.43Copein which month is your birthday - it was this summer, wasn't it?
23:13.47Georgeno
23:13.49GeorgeEaster
23:13.51GeorgeMarch
23:13.52Copeoh ok
23:14.07Georgewhy are you asking me all this? :P
23:14.08Copeif it was xmas, we could have had a special party
23:14.22Copegeorge is 18 and Cope is 30
23:14.35Georgeheh
23:14.50MacLeedsCope: you're old!
23:14.58Copegosh - that number looks big when I type it.
23:15.01rhoweibot george is also 12 years younger than Cope
23:15.03ibotrhowe: okay
23:15.41Georgeibot: george is also gwright@kde.org
23:15.42ibotGeorge: okay
23:15.42MacLeedsrhowe: if you find out any more interesting facts about Johnny the Jew from Leeds, like say his surname, let me know :-)
23:16.05rhoweMacLeeds: OK :)
23:16.08Copeibot george is also a fine fellow
23:16.09ibotCope: okay
23:16.15GeorgeI am?>
23:16.19CopeI think so.
23:16.21Georgelol
23:16.23Copeibot george
23:16.23iboti heard george is a kde lover. 12 years old, or 2 computers, a plant, a tortoise, a waste disposal machine, a tom-boy in enid blyton books, a pretty, dead girl, and George. 12 years younger than Cope, or gwright@kde.org, or a fine fellow
23:16.35Georgebloody hell.
23:16.36MacLeeds1bot george is also possibly a prat-bot - we've not decided yet
23:17.00Georgeprat-bot?
23:17.02Georgegah
23:17.05Georgeyou people are such bullies
23:17.11GeorgeI'm a nice guy, really :)
23:17.38*** join/#gllug pawel (~pawel@client-82-3-255-10.glfd.adsl.virgin.net)
23:17.49MacLeedsmorning pawel
23:18.04pawelMacLeeds: ah, how are you doing man?
23:18.08Copeyo pawel
23:18.22pawelMacLeeds: when did you left the hospital?
23:18.35MacLeedspawel: oh, ages ago - on the 16th
23:18.38pawelCope: y0. :>
23:18.49pawelMacLeeds: and how is it going?
23:18.54MacLeedsfeeling pretty decent now - a bit tired, a minor drug habit, but apart from that it's okay
23:19.02Coperight - I'm going to bed;
23:19.07pawelCope: no!
23:19.15CopeGeorge: thanks for helping with hts && htc.
23:19.16pawelCope: i just came.
23:19.22GeorgeCope: np
23:19.33pawelCope: who am I going to talk to!#
23:19.34MacLeedsGeorge: been there, done that - it made my stomach hurt like hell
23:19.50pawelibot: punch Cope
23:19.52ibotACTION hits Cope like the hot kiss and the end of a wet fist
23:20.00GeorgeMacLeeds: lol
23:20.12pawel:>
23:20.20Copepawel: If I can't sleep, I'll come back and talk to you.
23:20.36Georgeit's Katring!
23:20.37George:P
23:20.37MacLeedsGeorge: they gave me morphine to try to stop the pain - it worked, eventually
23:20.41CopeBut I am tired, so I'm going to see what happens if I lie down in bed in a darkened room.
23:20.44GeorgeMacLeeds: lol
23:20.55Katrinaoops :)
23:21.01MacLeedsheh
23:21.05Georgeibot: George
23:21.06ibotyou are, like, a kde lover. 12 years old, or 2 computers, a plant, a tortoise, a waste disposal machine, a tom-boy in enid blyton books, a pretty, dead girl, and George. 12 years younger than Cope, or gwright@kde.org, or a fine fellow
23:21.10Georgehrmm.
23:21.13Georgeibot: Leeds
23:21.13ibotsomebody said leeds was a bloke called Richard in the UK or spending too much time playing with expensive electronic toys or a genius or whatever you want him to be, or nekkid, or a place in the norf, or a rubbish footie team, or damn nearly bankrupt, or better than google. relegated :-(
23:21.13pawelCope: well, I would prefer to stay. :>
23:21.18George"nekkid"???????
23:21.23GeorgeARGH, MUST FIGHT IMAGE
23:21.34pawelibot: pawel
23:21.35ibotsomebody said pawel was a Pole
23:21.35MacLeedsalmost... I *am* in bed, after all
23:21.42Katrinaibot: Katrina
23:21.47Katrina:d
23:21.52Georgeibot: Katrina
23:21.55Georgeibot's dead
23:22.00pawelKatrina: need to him to a pub first.
23:22.06Copeibot katrina is possibly a girl
23:22.07ibotokay, Cope
23:22.07Katrinain english? :)
23:22.12GeorgeKatrina is a girl?
23:22.13GeorgeWTF?
23:22.17GeorgeA GIRL IN HERE?!!?!
23:22.22pawels/"nee to"/"need to take"/
23:22.23pawel:>
23:22.27MacLeedsKatrina: did you not see what ibot  just said about pawel ???
23:22.30pawelKatrina: need to take him to a pub first.
23:22.47Katrinai'm more of a microwave oven than a grill
23:23.02pawelKatrina: sorry about that, I just forgot to type that word. :>
23:23.04Marios_hahahaaa
23:23.04Copein which case clyphox will blow you up
23:23.12Copeibot clyphox
23:23.13ibot[clyphox] a man of his word.
23:23.13MacLeedsfast, efficient, and very dangerous without the right shielding?
23:23.20Marios_microwave oven !!
23:23.26pawel:/
23:23.30Katrina<pawel> Katrina: sorry about that, I just forgot to type that word. :> <--- hehe :)
23:23.31Copeibot clyphox is also someone who blows up microwave ovens
23:23.32ibotCope: okay
23:23.38Katrinaw00t
23:23.40MacLeedsmorning Marios_
23:23.41Katrinai get to be blown up
23:23.52Marios_MacLeeds: It is evening here ;)
23:23.55rhoweibot Katrina
23:23.56ibotkatrina is probably possibly a girl
23:24.15MacLeedsibot Katrina is also in need of being blown up
23:24.16ibotokay, MacLeeds
23:24.43Katrinaibot: katrina
23:24.44ibotrumour has it, katrina is possibly a girl, or in need of being blown up
23:24.47Katrinaw00t
23:25.24yellowsuite:-S
23:25.24Copeibot cope
23:25.25ibothmm... cope is the father of William, a geek in the making, or a big breadbox filled with crumbs of loveable humour. not coping, or chuckling like a maniac, or rabid
23:25.47yellowsuiteCope: type some true.
23:25.47Marios_ibot Marios_
23:25.48yellowsuite:/
23:25.55Marios_lol
23:26.05Marios_no answer ;)
23:26.13Marios_MacLeeds: how do you feel?
23:26.19MacLeedssleepy :-)
23:26.33Copeibot no Cope is the father of William, a geek in the making, or a big breadbox filled with crumbs of loveable humour, not coping, chuckling like a maniac or rabid
23:26.34ibotCope: okay
23:26.38Copeibot cope
23:26.40ibotsomebody said cope was the father of William, a geek in the making, or a big breadbox filled with crumbs of loveable humour, not coping, chuckling like a maniac or rabid
23:26.47CopeThat's better.
23:27.08MacLeedssleep time
23:27.13MacLeedsbye, all
23:27.18Marios_bye bye Leeds
23:27.20Georgenite
23:27.22GeorgeLeeds
23:27.23George:P
23:27.25Marios_hahahahah
23:27.31Copenight chums
23:27.45MacLeedswe could all go to bed together one night...

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