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00:59.02flooanyone around
00:59.32Marios_hey
00:59.56floohow are you doing?
01:00.08Marios_good floo...how about you?
01:00.33flootired
01:00.47floobeen trying tosort out a dns problem in Mandrake
01:00.57Marios_hmm
01:01.05Marios_I used to run Mandrake long time ago
01:01.24flooI'm going to switch soon to Ubuntu
01:01.29floovery clean
01:01.32floovery nice
01:01.34Marios_never tried it
01:01.41Marios_have you tried fedora?
01:01.42floodebian based
01:01.50floovery good little distro
01:01.59floofavours the desktop user
01:02.03Marios_I see
01:02.12floobut just as powerful for command line fans too
01:02.29Marios_is it like Gentoo?
01:02.40floofedora... once but I'm not really a red hat fan
01:02.55floono
01:03.07floowhere are you?
01:03.14flooLondon or...
01:03.17Marios_Fedora 2 was good...I didn't have any problems with it for desktop usage or server
01:03.25Marios_Michigan
01:03.31flooaahhh
01:03.42flooThat's why you're still awake
01:03.49flooit's 2am here
01:03.58Marios_yeah but still I don't go to bed before 2am here
01:04.52floowhat's your time
01:04.52Marios_9:03 pm
01:05.14flooanyways.. nice talking to you but I'm going to go t obed now
01:05.24Marios_ok man!
01:05.30Marios_I will talk to you soon
01:05.40floolook forward to it
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01:09.47TarragonHi zachary
01:10.00TarragonDamn Keyboard too slow
01:10.23Marios_hehehe
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09:10.51highburymorning
09:11.24Leedsmorning
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09:37.07JAVmorning²
09:39.57morsingMmm... (zZz)
09:40.30JAVi'll go as soon as i can face direct sunlight
09:40.32JAV:)
09:46.19Leedswhat's direct sunlight?
09:47.49Leedswe don't have that in England
09:48.03JAVheh
09:48.48JAVi'm noticing it doesn't need to be direct to hurt my eyes
10:03.04rhoweibot change 950 gbp to hkd
10:04.32JAVi hope new 2.6 estable kernel be released soon
10:05.00JAV2.6.8.1 hangs when i use cdrecord
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10:52.22morsingDoes a MOT check the thickness of brake pads?
10:53.31JAVibot what is MOT?
10:53.32ibotJAV: what are you talking about?
10:54.29JAVexactly :D
11:04.48yellowsuiteibot: what is congestion charge
11:04.49ibotI think you lost me on that one, yellowsuite
11:06.43pawellots of people have lost on it. :>
11:10.35morsingibot whack JAV
11:10.37ibotACTION whacks JAV upside the head.
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12:13.57rhoweLeeds: Johnny the jew just arrived and left, quicker than I could even ask his name
12:14.05Leedsthat bad?
12:14.12rhoweheh, he wanted something bigger
12:14.26Leedsbloody Jews, never satisfied...
12:14.31rhoweheh
12:14.39rhowedidn't exactly take a shine to him anyway
12:14.43Leedsor bloody Yorkshiremen...
12:14.54rhoweHe wasn't in the slightest bit friendly, and reminded me too much of the landlord
12:15.18Leedsah well
12:15.28Leedsare you getting desperate now then?
12:15.46rhoweNah, I won't be desperate for another couple of weeks
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12:26.49Leedsand... I've just discovered that not only does the wheel on my mouse work with minimal config, and not only do the wheel-like buttons (used for continuous scrolling without waving your finger around too much) work, but the back and forward buttons on the side of the mouse work too!
12:28.04rhoweSame here, although the "switch windows" button doesn't do much
12:29.23Leedswe could probably hook it up to something with a little work...  logitech mouse?
12:34.35rhoweYeah, MX900
12:34.56rhoweIf you put it in bluetooth HCI mode, then half the buttons send some special bluetooth event rather than a standard keypress
12:35.30rhoweOtherwise, the bluetooth controller (I think) makes it appear as a plain USB HID mouse and keyboard
12:36.41rhoweI think it's the same as the MX700, but bluetooth
12:36.48LeedsI've got the 700
12:37.08rhoweI know
12:37.21Leedsgood! :-)
12:37.43rhoweDo I go outside?
12:38.35rhoweYou're back in Hendon?
12:39.02rhoweActually I was thinking about watching the last samurai
12:39.13Leedsbeen back since Monday evening
12:39.34Leedswas out Tuesday and Wednesday evening, and most of yesterday, apart from being at work
12:39.51Leedsand only got around to plugging my PC back in on Firday
12:40.14rhoweAh right, well you can buy me lunch then =)
12:40.23Leedsum...
12:40.29Leedspossibly :-)
12:40.31rhoweI take it chips are considered kosher?
12:40.39Georgerhowe: I could move in with you! :P
12:40.48rhoweGeorge: 475/month plus council tax plus bills
12:40.54Georgemaybe not :)
12:40.58rhoweGeorge: heh
12:41.01Leedsrhowe: are you sure you know what you're offering?
12:41.15rhoweLeeds: What do you mean?
12:41.25Leedswould you want to live with him?
12:41.35LeedsI didn't think you were that desperate yet :-)
12:41.46rhoweLeeds: He's a KDE developer, therefore his budget is more like 475/YEAR :)
12:42.09rhowePlus, he's George :)
12:42.25rhoweLeeds: I'm quite happy for people to say yes - I still get to say no afterwards :)
12:42.30rhoweLeeds: So does the landlord :)
12:42.40Leedsah, fair enough
12:42.41rhoweGeorge: Landlord'd do a credit check on you, too
12:42.48Leedsha
12:43.29Georgegod damnit
12:43.37Georgeanyone know how to use a HP 48/49 calculator?
12:43.39rhoweLeeds: Anyway, are chips always kosher?
12:43.52Leedspretty much, unless they're in animal fat
12:44.00rhoweGeorge: Sell it on ebay and buy a better one?
12:44.05rhoweLeeds: So vegetable oil is OK
12:44.12Georgerhowe: uhm
12:44.14Leedsyes
12:44.19Georgerhowe: what better calculator is there? :P
12:44.27rhoweLeeds: Are chips compatible with your diet?
12:44.33rhoweGeorge: One you know how to use? :)
12:44.37Leedsalso, if you're being picky, things like what the pan has been used for before and stuff matters
12:44.37GeorgeI should think anything is compatible with Leeds' diet
12:44.49Leedsno, chips are not really compatible, except in very small amounts
12:44.49Georgerhowe: everyone has to start learning at some point :0
12:44.57rhoweLeeds: Chips, chips and more chips :P
12:44.58LeedsGeorge: foad
12:45.15GeorgeLeeds: hey, that was revenge for the "We hate you George" shit at LWCE SF :)
12:45.20rhoweLeeds: Define very small?
12:45.36rhoweHalf a potato?
12:45.47Leedsrhowe: like, a few - with a real meal with a protein source and a lot of 'real' veg
12:45.58Leedsother, non-fried, potato is better
12:46.28rhoweLeeds: How does humous potato salad with some chips on the side, and boiled veg sound?
12:46.58Leedspossibly... not huge amounts of protein there...
12:47.07Leedsthat should be okay :-)
12:48.13Leedsfish... beans... cheese (but cheese is bad)... quorn and similar...
12:48.29rhoweIs fish kosher?
12:49.31Leedsnope :-)
12:49.43rhoweCan fish be kosher?
12:50.02Leedsif it's real fish, very probably... if it's shellfish or other non-swimming, non-finned-and-scaled things, no
12:50.17Leedsum... that nope was to your bet, not to the question
12:50.47rhoweWhat about frozen coley fillets from waitrose
12:51.59rhowecoley being a white fish
12:52.42Leedsdunno... I tend to stick to salmon, tuna, and stuff like sole - and some local fish we eat in Spain
12:53.03Leedsgoogle, of course, knows :-)
12:53.24Leedshttp://www.brijnet.org/us/cdd/kosher5.htm
12:53.44rhoweOK, then it is
12:53.54rhoweDoes humous not contain protein though?
12:53.59rhoweAren't chick peas like beans?
12:54.41Leedsyes, but there's probably not enough of them
12:55.02Leedsanyway - that would be fine...  I'm being bloody-minded - every meal doesn't have to be - can't be! - perfect
12:55.56rhoweOK, then could I interest you in a lunch/dinner of grilled coley (with optional mayo/mustard coating), veg, and potato salad with humous?
12:56.05Leedsthere's a spectrum from bad food (and bad meals - it's a holistic thing) to good food (meals) - as long as I work on the good end of the spectrum, it's not a black and white thing
12:56.10Leedsyes, you could :-)
12:56.15rhoweOr am I likely to be sending you back to Barnet with such a thing?
12:56.28rhowes/(Barnet)/\1 General/
12:56.32Leedsnah
12:56.40Leedsyou would get to watch me shoot up first, of course
12:56.46rhoweOK, then I could do with a brief trip to Waitrose
12:58.04Leedshmm... firefox build failed
12:59.52rhoweLeeds: When were you thinking of going to Brent cross?
13:00.00Leedsso, um... I need to go about now, and I need to eat soonish
13:00.08rhoweHow convenient
13:00.21rhoweWant me to meet you there, or are you driving?
13:00.34Leedswell, I'm driving to BC, certainly
13:00.47rhoweETA?
13:00.56Leeds10 minutes?
13:01.01rhoweWould you happen to be driving past my front door?
13:01.19Leedsthere's only really one thing I wanted to buy specifically - superglue - but I was planning on a browse... another day, I guess
13:01.33Leedsalright - 10 minutes at your door ;-)
13:01.43rhoweFish is defrosting and no microwave :)(
13:01.54Leedsno... microwave... ?????
13:02.01rhoweClaire took it :)
13:02.12rhoweNo kettle, toaster, microwave or tea towel
13:02.18Leedsthen again, I'm getting into the George Formby grill
13:02.40rhoweBut I have a wok, a couple of pans, a chip pan and an oven/grill
13:02.50rhoweOh, and a thermos for hot water, China-style
13:03.15Leedsit is rather easy - give it 5 minutes to warm up, half(ish) the number of minutes given on the box for grilling $FOOD, slap it in, wait for the beep, eat
13:03.26LeedsI could lend you a kettle - I never use it
13:03.43rhoweI quite enjoy the thermos actually
13:03.48rhoweHot water on demand :)
13:05.55Leedsfair enough
13:07.24Leedsokay, washing in machine, medication in pockets... see you in a few
13:07.31rhoweOK
13:24.04pawelhi guys.
13:24.12pawelback on the channel.
13:50.01dclericwhy are potatoes frowned upon from a kosher standpoint?  what about fried potato pancakes (yumm) ?
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14:03.51morsingwibble
14:07.46pawelCope-Home: y0.
14:07.47pawel:>
14:10.08morsingWhy isn't Wethrin here?
14:16.07Cope-Homemorsing: he is on holiday
14:16.12Cope-Homethen going to durham
14:19.01morsingA holiday shouldn't stop him from visiting :-)
14:54.26Georgemoo
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15:26.02morsingHas anyone seen floo here recently for more than a few seconds?
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15:40.07stephanbhi everybody
15:42.40morsinghello
15:43.24stephanbany idea about using SATA with linux
15:43.45stephanbi don't have SATA on my MB, i'm considering geting a PCI controller
15:45.26stephanbi wonder if it is a stupid idea and i better wait until i get a MB that supports SATA
15:47.26stephenI've used a PCI SATA RAID controller without problems
15:47.29AndrewBlackmorsing - have you had any more joy with your VAX
15:48.06morsingAndrew: No, I've given up. Don't know what to do about it.
15:52.32stephanbstephen: can i ask which one you bought. and do u boot on the SATA drive?
15:53.57stephenstephanb: it's a 3Ware 9500S-8, and yes, I boot from it.
15:54.54stephanbstephen: and there is a gain in throughput compared with a regular ATA drive ?
15:56.25stephenstephanb: I can't really say, it's a RAID 5 array, so I can't really compare it to any of the PATA subsystems I have.
16:02.12stephanbstephen: im just thinking of a home system. but i'll rememember 3Ware. ru using kernel 2.6?
16:04.18stephen2.4.27 patched to include support for 3Ware 9000 series
16:05.04stephen3Ware controllers are nice, have very good Linux support, but they're rather pricey
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16:47.07morsingHow do you remember the PIN for 8 diff. cards + netbank details?
16:47.27edwardmorsing: put them in a PDA
16:47.37morsingHaven't got one
16:47.38edwardyou can get programs for PDAs for storing passwords
16:48.20edwardokay, program on your PC then
16:48.43morsingopenssl?
16:53.22edwardno, i think there are gnome or kde program's to do it
16:53.27edwardcan't remember any names
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17:08.05edwardevening irvined
17:22.34irvinedi'm shattered, just moved half a racks worth of servers around within the rack to make more sense and get them in the right U rather than anywhere they fit (some muppet didnt know that the holes on a rack arent evenly spaced) put in a managed pdu for the ups circuit, turned the sockets that arent in use to off, and am upgrading the kernels.....
17:25.13edwardone of the machines we have in redbus overheated
17:35.26irvinedquite possibly, main thing is getting airflow through them.
17:35.42irvinedso if the fans are crap, or blocked then that tends to melt them.
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17:47.36irvinedhmm, the driver for my card is no longer updated...
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20:04.39morsing~seen floo
20:04.40ibotfloo <~gary@host-84-9-79-11.bulldogdsl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 18h 59m ago, saying: 'look forward to it'.
20:20.12morsing~seen morsing
20:20.13ibotmorsing is currently on #gllug (10h 57m 12s).  Has said a total of 14 messages.  Is idling for 1s
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20:57.18emielhi.
20:57.24Cope2hi
20:58.25rhoweevenin'
20:58.39emielI was looking for some linux resources in London and ran into the gllug site.
20:59.04stephennot literally I hope, it's rather hard
20:59.06stephen:-)
20:59.19rhoweAnd pointy
20:59.27emielNo nothing as painful as that.
21:00.00emielThe reason for my searching is that I'm playing with the idea of relocating to London.
21:01.24emielPerhaps some of you could give me an idea of the London IT "scene". :)
21:02.02emielLike maybe, where is the Silicon Valley of London?
21:02.03rhoweLondon sucks :P
21:02.06rhowe* > London
21:02.07emielor is there one.
21:02.22emielrhowe: Oh. :)
21:02.48rhoweThat's like saying "What's the funloving scene of Belgium?" :)
21:04.09emielPerhaps the question was a bit loaded.
21:05.47emielrhowe: What don't you like about London? Are you a native?
21:05.59rhoweIt's not Hong Kong, mainly :)
21:06.14rhoweThat and I'm paying 950 quid a month at the moment :)
21:07.17rhoweahahaha
21:07.24rhoweDid anyone see the Duracell advert on Channel 4?
21:07.30emielrhowe: For an apartment?
21:07.38rhoweemiel: 2 bedroom flat, yes
21:12.06Leedsemiel: you *know* you want to move to London next week and take the spare room in rhowe's flat!
21:15.50morsingemial: London really do suck!
21:16.18morsingReading is supposed to be Silicon Valley...
22:11.55Leedsrhowe: by the way, I only got a little superglue on my finger...
22:13.54rhoweLeeds: One finger or two?
22:14.02Leedsone
22:14.32rhoweAh then that isn't so much of an issue :)
22:14.55Leedsyes - just thought I'd mention it
22:15.20rhoweLeeds: Leave it on your finger and watch how long it takes to wear off :)
22:16.01rhoweAnti-depressants, is what they're talking about mainly
22:16.42Leedsnot taking them...
22:16.53Leedsnot particularly depressed... :-)
22:17.23rhoweThey're talking about the regulator not being very good
22:17.54rhoweWell, they were
22:18.26rhoweProgram called Jewish Law on C4
22:19.53Leedsah, that
22:27.03Leedshmm
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22:34.06Leedsevening floo
22:34.12floohi ya
22:34.22floolong time no see
22:34.48flooare you going to expo?
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23:27.17Leedsbedtime, ish
23:28.42Leedsnight all

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