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00:59.02 | floo | anyone around |
00:59.32 | Marios_ | hey |
00:59.56 | floo | how are you doing? |
01:00.08 | Marios_ | good floo...how about you? |
01:00.33 | floo | tired |
01:00.47 | floo | been trying tosort out a dns problem in Mandrake |
01:00.57 | Marios_ | hmm |
01:01.05 | Marios_ | I used to run Mandrake long time ago |
01:01.24 | floo | I'm going to switch soon to Ubuntu |
01:01.29 | floo | very clean |
01:01.32 | floo | very nice |
01:01.34 | Marios_ | never tried it |
01:01.41 | Marios_ | have you tried fedora? |
01:01.42 | floo | debian based |
01:01.50 | floo | very good little distro |
01:01.59 | floo | favours the desktop user |
01:02.03 | Marios_ | I see |
01:02.12 | floo | but just as powerful for command line fans too |
01:02.29 | Marios_ | is it like Gentoo? |
01:02.40 | floo | fedora... once but I'm not really a red hat fan |
01:02.55 | floo | no |
01:03.07 | floo | where are you? |
01:03.14 | floo | London or... |
01:03.17 | Marios_ | Fedora 2 was good...I didn't have any problems with it for desktop usage or server |
01:03.25 | Marios_ | Michigan |
01:03.31 | floo | aahhh |
01:03.42 | floo | That's why you're still awake |
01:03.49 | floo | it's 2am here |
01:03.58 | Marios_ | yeah but still I don't go to bed before 2am here |
01:04.52 | floo | what's your time |
01:04.52 | Marios_ | 9:03 pm |
01:05.14 | floo | anyways.. nice talking to you but I'm going to go t obed now |
01:05.24 | Marios_ | ok man! |
01:05.30 | Marios_ | I will talk to you soon |
01:05.40 | floo | look forward to it |
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01:09.47 | Tarragon | Hi zachary |
01:10.00 | Tarragon | Damn Keyboard too slow |
01:10.23 | Marios_ | hehehe |
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09:10.51 | highbury | morning |
09:11.24 | Leeds | morning |
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09:37.07 | JAV | morning² |
09:39.57 | morsing | Mmm... (zZz) |
09:40.30 | JAV | i'll go as soon as i can face direct sunlight |
09:40.32 | JAV | :) |
09:46.19 | Leeds | what's direct sunlight? |
09:47.49 | Leeds | we don't have that in England |
09:48.03 | JAV | heh |
09:48.48 | JAV | i'm noticing it doesn't need to be direct to hurt my eyes |
10:03.04 | rhowe | ibot change 950 gbp to hkd |
10:04.32 | JAV | i hope new 2.6 estable kernel be released soon |
10:05.00 | JAV | 2.6.8.1 hangs when i use cdrecord |
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10:52.22 | morsing | Does a MOT check the thickness of brake pads? |
10:53.31 | JAV | ibot what is MOT? |
10:53.32 | ibot | JAV: what are you talking about? |
10:54.29 | JAV | exactly :D |
11:04.48 | yellowsuite | ibot: what is congestion charge |
11:04.49 | ibot | I think you lost me on that one, yellowsuite |
11:06.43 | pawel | lots of people have lost on it. :> |
11:10.35 | morsing | ibot whack JAV |
11:10.37 | ibot | ACTION whacks JAV upside the head. |
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12:13.57 | rhowe | Leeds: Johnny the jew just arrived and left, quicker than I could even ask his name |
12:14.05 | Leeds | that bad? |
12:14.12 | rhowe | heh, he wanted something bigger |
12:14.26 | Leeds | bloody Jews, never satisfied... |
12:14.31 | rhowe | heh |
12:14.39 | rhowe | didn't exactly take a shine to him anyway |
12:14.43 | Leeds | or bloody Yorkshiremen... |
12:14.54 | rhowe | He wasn't in the slightest bit friendly, and reminded me too much of the landlord |
12:15.18 | Leeds | ah well |
12:15.28 | Leeds | are you getting desperate now then? |
12:15.46 | rhowe | Nah, I won't be desperate for another couple of weeks |
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12:26.49 | Leeds | and... I've just discovered that not only does the wheel on my mouse work with minimal config, and not only do the wheel-like buttons (used for continuous scrolling without waving your finger around too much) work, but the back and forward buttons on the side of the mouse work too! |
12:28.04 | rhowe | Same here, although the "switch windows" button doesn't do much |
12:29.23 | Leeds | we could probably hook it up to something with a little work... logitech mouse? |
12:34.35 | rhowe | Yeah, MX900 |
12:34.56 | rhowe | If you put it in bluetooth HCI mode, then half the buttons send some special bluetooth event rather than a standard keypress |
12:35.30 | rhowe | Otherwise, the bluetooth controller (I think) makes it appear as a plain USB HID mouse and keyboard |
12:36.41 | rhowe | I think it's the same as the MX700, but bluetooth |
12:36.48 | Leeds | I've got the 700 |
12:37.08 | rhowe | I know |
12:37.21 | Leeds | good! :-) |
12:37.43 | rhowe | Do I go outside? |
12:38.35 | rhowe | You're back in Hendon? |
12:39.02 | rhowe | Actually I was thinking about watching the last samurai |
12:39.13 | Leeds | been back since Monday evening |
12:39.34 | Leeds | was out Tuesday and Wednesday evening, and most of yesterday, apart from being at work |
12:39.51 | Leeds | and only got around to plugging my PC back in on Firday |
12:40.14 | rhowe | Ah right, well you can buy me lunch then =) |
12:40.23 | Leeds | um... |
12:40.29 | Leeds | possibly :-) |
12:40.31 | rhowe | I take it chips are considered kosher? |
12:40.39 | George | rhowe: I could move in with you! :P |
12:40.48 | rhowe | George: 475/month plus council tax plus bills |
12:40.54 | George | maybe not :) |
12:40.58 | rhowe | George: heh |
12:41.01 | Leeds | rhowe: are you sure you know what you're offering? |
12:41.15 | rhowe | Leeds: What do you mean? |
12:41.25 | Leeds | would you want to live with him? |
12:41.35 | Leeds | I didn't think you were that desperate yet :-) |
12:41.46 | rhowe | Leeds: He's a KDE developer, therefore his budget is more like 475/YEAR :) |
12:42.09 | rhowe | Plus, he's George :) |
12:42.25 | rhowe | Leeds: I'm quite happy for people to say yes - I still get to say no afterwards :) |
12:42.30 | rhowe | Leeds: So does the landlord :) |
12:42.40 | Leeds | ah, fair enough |
12:42.41 | rhowe | George: Landlord'd do a credit check on you, too |
12:42.48 | Leeds | ha |
12:43.29 | George | god damnit |
12:43.37 | George | anyone know how to use a HP 48/49 calculator? |
12:43.39 | rhowe | Leeds: Anyway, are chips always kosher? |
12:43.52 | Leeds | pretty much, unless they're in animal fat |
12:44.00 | rhowe | George: Sell it on ebay and buy a better one? |
12:44.05 | rhowe | Leeds: So vegetable oil is OK |
12:44.12 | George | rhowe: uhm |
12:44.14 | Leeds | yes |
12:44.19 | George | rhowe: what better calculator is there? :P |
12:44.27 | rhowe | Leeds: Are chips compatible with your diet? |
12:44.33 | rhowe | George: One you know how to use? :) |
12:44.37 | Leeds | also, if you're being picky, things like what the pan has been used for before and stuff matters |
12:44.37 | George | I should think anything is compatible with Leeds' diet |
12:44.49 | Leeds | no, chips are not really compatible, except in very small amounts |
12:44.49 | George | rhowe: everyone has to start learning at some point :0 |
12:44.57 | rhowe | Leeds: Chips, chips and more chips :P |
12:44.58 | Leeds | George: foad |
12:45.15 | George | Leeds: hey, that was revenge for the "We hate you George" shit at LWCE SF :) |
12:45.20 | rhowe | Leeds: Define very small? |
12:45.36 | rhowe | Half a potato? |
12:45.47 | Leeds | rhowe: like, a few - with a real meal with a protein source and a lot of 'real' veg |
12:45.58 | Leeds | other, non-fried, potato is better |
12:46.28 | rhowe | Leeds: How does humous potato salad with some chips on the side, and boiled veg sound? |
12:46.58 | Leeds | possibly... not huge amounts of protein there... |
12:47.07 | Leeds | that should be okay :-) |
12:48.13 | Leeds | fish... beans... cheese (but cheese is bad)... quorn and similar... |
12:48.29 | rhowe | Is fish kosher? |
12:49.31 | Leeds | nope :-) |
12:49.43 | rhowe | Can fish be kosher? |
12:50.02 | Leeds | if it's real fish, very probably... if it's shellfish or other non-swimming, non-finned-and-scaled things, no |
12:50.17 | Leeds | um... that nope was to your bet, not to the question |
12:50.47 | rhowe | What about frozen coley fillets from waitrose |
12:51.59 | rhowe | coley being a white fish |
12:52.42 | Leeds | dunno... I tend to stick to salmon, tuna, and stuff like sole - and some local fish we eat in Spain |
12:53.03 | Leeds | google, of course, knows :-) |
12:53.24 | Leeds | http://www.brijnet.org/us/cdd/kosher5.htm |
12:53.44 | rhowe | OK, then it is |
12:53.54 | rhowe | Does humous not contain protein though? |
12:53.59 | rhowe | Aren't chick peas like beans? |
12:54.41 | Leeds | yes, but there's probably not enough of them |
12:55.02 | Leeds | anyway - that would be fine... I'm being bloody-minded - every meal doesn't have to be - can't be! - perfect |
12:55.56 | rhowe | OK, then could I interest you in a lunch/dinner of grilled coley (with optional mayo/mustard coating), veg, and potato salad with humous? |
12:56.05 | Leeds | there's a spectrum from bad food (and bad meals - it's a holistic thing) to good food (meals) - as long as I work on the good end of the spectrum, it's not a black and white thing |
12:56.10 | Leeds | yes, you could :-) |
12:56.15 | rhowe | Or am I likely to be sending you back to Barnet with such a thing? |
12:56.28 | rhowe | s/(Barnet)/\1 General/ |
12:56.32 | Leeds | nah |
12:56.40 | Leeds | you would get to watch me shoot up first, of course |
12:56.46 | rhowe | OK, then I could do with a brief trip to Waitrose |
12:58.04 | Leeds | hmm... firefox build failed |
12:59.52 | rhowe | Leeds: When were you thinking of going to Brent cross? |
13:00.00 | Leeds | so, um... I need to go about now, and I need to eat soonish |
13:00.08 | rhowe | How convenient |
13:00.21 | rhowe | Want me to meet you there, or are you driving? |
13:00.34 | Leeds | well, I'm driving to BC, certainly |
13:00.47 | rhowe | ETA? |
13:00.56 | Leeds | 10 minutes? |
13:01.01 | rhowe | Would you happen to be driving past my front door? |
13:01.19 | Leeds | there's only really one thing I wanted to buy specifically - superglue - but I was planning on a browse... another day, I guess |
13:01.33 | Leeds | alright - 10 minutes at your door ;-) |
13:01.43 | rhowe | Fish is defrosting and no microwave :)( |
13:01.54 | Leeds | no... microwave... ????? |
13:02.01 | rhowe | Claire took it :) |
13:02.12 | rhowe | No kettle, toaster, microwave or tea towel |
13:02.18 | Leeds | then again, I'm getting into the George Formby grill |
13:02.40 | rhowe | But I have a wok, a couple of pans, a chip pan and an oven/grill |
13:02.50 | rhowe | Oh, and a thermos for hot water, China-style |
13:03.15 | Leeds | it is rather easy - give it 5 minutes to warm up, half(ish) the number of minutes given on the box for grilling $FOOD, slap it in, wait for the beep, eat |
13:03.26 | Leeds | I could lend you a kettle - I never use it |
13:03.43 | rhowe | I quite enjoy the thermos actually |
13:03.48 | rhowe | Hot water on demand :) |
13:05.55 | Leeds | fair enough |
13:07.24 | Leeds | okay, washing in machine, medication in pockets... see you in a few |
13:07.31 | rhowe | OK |
13:24.04 | pawel | hi guys. |
13:24.12 | pawel | back on the channel. |
13:50.01 | dcleric | why are potatoes frowned upon from a kosher standpoint? what about fried potato pancakes (yumm) ? |
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14:03.51 | morsing | wibble |
14:07.46 | pawel | Cope-Home: y0. |
14:07.47 | pawel | :> |
14:10.08 | morsing | Why isn't Wethrin here? |
14:16.07 | Cope-Home | morsing: he is on holiday |
14:16.12 | Cope-Home | then going to durham |
14:19.01 | morsing | A holiday shouldn't stop him from visiting :-) |
14:54.26 | George | moo |
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15:26.02 | morsing | Has anyone seen floo here recently for more than a few seconds? |
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15:40.07 | stephanb | hi everybody |
15:42.40 | morsing | hello |
15:43.24 | stephanb | any idea about using SATA with linux |
15:43.45 | stephanb | i don't have SATA on my MB, i'm considering geting a PCI controller |
15:45.26 | stephanb | i wonder if it is a stupid idea and i better wait until i get a MB that supports SATA |
15:47.26 | stephen | I've used a PCI SATA RAID controller without problems |
15:47.29 | AndrewBlack | morsing - have you had any more joy with your VAX |
15:48.06 | morsing | Andrew: No, I've given up. Don't know what to do about it. |
15:52.32 | stephanb | stephen: can i ask which one you bought. and do u boot on the SATA drive? |
15:53.57 | stephen | stephanb: it's a 3Ware 9500S-8, and yes, I boot from it. |
15:54.54 | stephanb | stephen: and there is a gain in throughput compared with a regular ATA drive ? |
15:56.25 | stephen | stephanb: I can't really say, it's a RAID 5 array, so I can't really compare it to any of the PATA subsystems I have. |
16:02.12 | stephanb | stephen: im just thinking of a home system. but i'll rememember 3Ware. ru using kernel 2.6? |
16:04.18 | stephen | 2.4.27 patched to include support for 3Ware 9000 series |
16:05.04 | stephen | 3Ware controllers are nice, have very good Linux support, but they're rather pricey |
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16:47.07 | morsing | How do you remember the PIN for 8 diff. cards + netbank details? |
16:47.27 | edward | morsing: put them in a PDA |
16:47.37 | morsing | Haven't got one |
16:47.38 | edward | you can get programs for PDAs for storing passwords |
16:48.20 | edward | okay, program on your PC then |
16:48.43 | morsing | openssl? |
16:53.22 | edward | no, i think there are gnome or kde program's to do it |
16:53.27 | edward | can't remember any names |
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17:08.05 | edward | evening irvined |
17:22.34 | irvined | i'm shattered, just moved half a racks worth of servers around within the rack to make more sense and get them in the right U rather than anywhere they fit (some muppet didnt know that the holes on a rack arent evenly spaced) put in a managed pdu for the ups circuit, turned the sockets that arent in use to off, and am upgrading the kernels..... |
17:25.13 | edward | one of the machines we have in redbus overheated |
17:35.26 | irvined | quite possibly, main thing is getting airflow through them. |
17:35.42 | irvined | so if the fans are crap, or blocked then that tends to melt them. |
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17:47.36 | irvined | hmm, the driver for my card is no longer updated... |
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20:04.39 | morsing | ~seen floo |
20:04.40 | ibot | floo <~gary@host-84-9-79-11.bulldogdsl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 18h 59m ago, saying: 'look forward to it'. |
20:20.12 | morsing | ~seen morsing |
20:20.13 | ibot | morsing is currently on #gllug (10h 57m 12s). Has said a total of 14 messages. Is idling for 1s |
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20:57.18 | emiel | hi. |
20:57.24 | Cope2 | hi |
20:58.25 | rhowe | evenin' |
20:58.39 | emiel | I was looking for some linux resources in London and ran into the gllug site. |
20:59.04 | stephen | not literally I hope, it's rather hard |
20:59.06 | stephen | :-) |
20:59.19 | rhowe | And pointy |
20:59.27 | emiel | No nothing as painful as that. |
21:00.00 | emiel | The reason for my searching is that I'm playing with the idea of relocating to London. |
21:01.24 | emiel | Perhaps some of you could give me an idea of the London IT "scene". :) |
21:02.02 | emiel | Like maybe, where is the Silicon Valley of London? |
21:02.03 | rhowe | London sucks :P |
21:02.06 | rhowe | * > London |
21:02.07 | emiel | or is there one. |
21:02.22 | emiel | rhowe: Oh. :) |
21:02.48 | rhowe | That's like saying "What's the funloving scene of Belgium?" :) |
21:04.09 | emiel | Perhaps the question was a bit loaded. |
21:05.47 | emiel | rhowe: What don't you like about London? Are you a native? |
21:05.59 | rhowe | It's not Hong Kong, mainly :) |
21:06.14 | rhowe | That and I'm paying 950 quid a month at the moment :) |
21:07.17 | rhowe | ahahaha |
21:07.24 | rhowe | Did anyone see the Duracell advert on Channel 4? |
21:07.30 | emiel | rhowe: For an apartment? |
21:07.38 | rhowe | emiel: 2 bedroom flat, yes |
21:12.06 | Leeds | emiel: you *know* you want to move to London next week and take the spare room in rhowe's flat! |
21:15.50 | morsing | emial: London really do suck! |
21:16.18 | morsing | Reading is supposed to be Silicon Valley... |
22:11.55 | Leeds | rhowe: by the way, I only got a little superglue on my finger... |
22:13.54 | rhowe | Leeds: One finger or two? |
22:14.02 | Leeds | one |
22:14.32 | rhowe | Ah then that isn't so much of an issue :) |
22:14.55 | Leeds | yes - just thought I'd mention it |
22:15.20 | rhowe | Leeds: Leave it on your finger and watch how long it takes to wear off :) |
22:16.01 | rhowe | Anti-depressants, is what they're talking about mainly |
22:16.42 | Leeds | not taking them... |
22:16.53 | Leeds | not particularly depressed... :-) |
22:17.23 | rhowe | They're talking about the regulator not being very good |
22:17.54 | rhowe | Well, they were |
22:18.26 | rhowe | Program called Jewish Law on C4 |
22:19.53 | Leeds | ah, that |
22:27.03 | Leeds | hmm |
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22:34.06 | Leeds | evening floo |
22:34.12 | floo | hi ya |
22:34.22 | floo | long time no see |
22:34.48 | floo | are you going to expo? |
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23:27.17 | Leeds | bedtime, ish |
23:28.42 | Leeds | night all |