| 00:01.15 | Marios_ | it is a program in BBC right ? |
| 00:01.25 | Leeds | yes |
| 00:02.24 | Marios_ | they projected IN, KY, GA for Bush and VT for Kerry |
| 00:02.41 | Leeds | it's a live political debate show, with 5 panelists - normally one from each of the 3 main parties in the UK, one journalist and one 'other' person - a celebrity, some sort of activist, something like that |
| 00:03.04 | Marios_ | I see |
| 00:03.14 | Marios_ | I think I watched that once I was in London |
| 00:03.44 | evangineer | so how have they adapted it for miami? |
| 00:03.51 | Leeds | it moves around the country, a different place each week, the panel don't know the questions in advance... |
| 00:04.13 | Marios_ | kinda like US presidential debates? |
| 00:04.30 | Leeds | evangineer: one democrat, one republican, Michael Moore, Richard Littlejohn and a non-partisan 'get the vote out' type campaigner |
| 00:04.43 | Marios_ | they have Michael Moore ?? lol |
| 00:05.27 | evangineer | is he a journalist? *duck* |
| 00:05.55 | Leeds | Marios_: in theory, yes :-) except it's a true debate - completely unscripted, they *don't* know the questions, they have a strong moderator who will actually tell the speakers to shut up, or offer them the chance to rebut each other for real - and it's on *every week*, at least for a TV season, with different people on each week |
| 00:06.00 | evangineer | still, I suppose he's there to balance out Moore. |
| 00:06.49 | Marios_ | Leeds: what channel ?? I will note it down to watch it when I come |
| 00:07.19 | Leeds | David dimbleby is getting quite pissed off at the American audience, I think :-) |
| 00:07.23 | Leeds | Marios_: BBC1, of course |
| 00:07.47 | Marios_ | I knew it was BBC but BBC has quite many channels :) |
| 00:08.01 | Leeds | only BBC1 and BBC2 matter... |
| 00:08.22 | Marios_ | do you have the BBC world or it is only for overseas? |
| 00:08.29 | Leeds | you can go to http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/question_time/default.stm and (probably) watch the latest show... I'm watching the broadband feed, which is only available to UK ISPs |
| 00:08.53 | evangineer | when will they know the result of the election (barring legal argy-bargy like in 2000)? |
| 00:09.03 | Leeds | this particular show was on BBC1 and BBC world - we don't get BBC world, but I don't think they show anything significant which isn't on BBC1 or BBC2 anyway |
| 00:09.29 | Leeds | evangineer: remember, multiple timezones... the first states stopped voting at 0000 GMT, i.e. 9 minutes ago |
| 00:09.30 | Marios_ | I used to have BBC world...24/7 news :) |
| 00:09.54 | Leeds | Marios_: we now have a BBC rolling news channel, like CNN or Fox - BBC News 24 |
| 00:10.05 | Marios_ | I can watch it from BBC's site (question time) |
| 00:10.22 | Marios_ | oh cool...I like 24/7 news |
| 00:10.40 | Leeds | the only thing is that you have to remember that there's normally a British audience, so they're a lot more polite :-) |
| 00:10.48 | Marios_ | hahahaahhaahahah |
| 00:10.58 | Marios_ | you have a point ;) |
| 00:12.38 | Marios_ | always British politics or general world politics? |
| 00:13.33 | Leeds | always British, except in a case like this where they have a special edition for the US elections |
| 00:13.46 | Marios_ | I see |
| 00:14.15 | evangineer | hmm, apparently the slackware store is now taking pre-orders for 10.1 |
| 00:14.26 | Marios_ | don't they have a lot about EU ?? this could be very funny |
| 00:15.17 | Leeds | me too |
| 00:15.42 | Leeds | Marios_: british politics and uk politics cross over a lot - european issues come up very often on qt |
| 00:16.01 | Leeds | that is, eu, and uk politics... |
| 00:16.06 | Marios_ | got it |
| 00:16.10 | Marios_ | sounds fun :) |
| 00:18.13 | Leeds | first results are apparently coming in |
| 00:18.31 | Marios_ | yeah |
| 00:18.33 | Marios_ | 34-3 |
| 00:19.27 | Marios_ | but these states that Bush won...it was known long time ago that he would get them |
| 00:19.50 | Marios_ | the real battle ground is Florida, Ohio and Pensylvania |
| 00:20.11 | Leeds | ah, a bit of euro-bashing... |
| 00:20.38 | evangineer | what's the turnout looking like so far? |
| 00:21.14 | Marios_ | quite high |
| 00:21.19 | Marios_ | and that helps Kerry |
| 00:21.40 | Leeds | apparently a lot of first-time voters |
| 00:22.54 | Marios_ | republicans gained on seat in senate |
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| 00:23.01 | evangineer | what about voter challenges, the repubs were threatening to challenge a lot of voters in key states? |
| 00:23.04 | Marios_ | hello mozrat |
| 00:23.11 | evangineer | hey mozrat |
| 00:23.16 | mozrat | Hey Marios |
| 00:23.18 | Leeds | evangineer: any chance there's a slackware for amd64 in 10.1? |
| 00:23.22 | Leeds | morning mozzie |
| 00:23.31 | mozrat | hey leeds |
| 00:23.38 | Marios_ | they had some in Ohio earlier |
| 00:23.41 | mozrat | peterSnow++ |
| 00:24.06 | Leeds | heh |
| 00:24.14 | mozrat | theres a #election2004 channel which is quite busy and interesting |
| 00:25.03 | Leeds | cool, thanks |
| 00:25.17 | evangineer | Leeds, haven't heard anything about that. maybe if patrick didn't have to spend so much time on gnome he might be able to work on a port! *duck* ;-) |
| 00:25.31 | Leeds | heh |
| 00:26.06 | Leeds | why is there a penis in the window? |
| 00:26.17 | Marios_ | in 5 minutes might announce Ohio |
| 00:26.32 | mozrat | Leeds, naked window cleaner? |
| 00:26.33 | Leeds | Marios_: we have live BBC coverage on :-) |
| 00:26.48 | Leeds | mozrat: nah, behind dimbleby |
| 00:27.10 | Marios_ | oh ok ;) |
| 00:27.25 | Leeds | it's the big needle in washington, whatever it's called |
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| 00:28.12 | Marios_ | Florida has two timezones so they will delay projections |
| 00:28.30 | *** part/#gllug mozrat- (~smorris@217.205.129.130) |
| 00:28.52 | Leeds | two timezones? that's messed up |
| 00:29.03 | evangineer | mozrat, I finally got round to sending $director a copy of my CV yesterday. |
| 00:29.09 | Leeds | not as bad as having counties with their own timezones, I guess |
| 00:29.15 | mozrat | evangineer: Cool! |
| 00:29.29 | Marios_ | yeah the panhandle has central time but the rest is in Eastern Zone |
| 00:30.06 | evangineer | s/put/be/ |
| 00:30.16 | mozrat | lol |
| 00:30.26 | mozrat | I'll ask him when I see him next |
| 00:31.04 | evangineer | that would be much appreciated |
| 00:31.19 | mozrat | np :) |
| 00:32.13 | Leeds | it's been discussed many times |
| 00:32.23 | Marios_ | I need a job too...so anybody who can help gets free beer :) |
| 00:32.48 | mozrat | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_U.S._election_in_progress |
| 00:33.02 | mozrat | Theres a linux jobs list that is very low volume but active |
| 00:33.29 | Leeds | but there are job postings on the main list |
| 00:33.44 | evangineer | uknot-jobs gets about 4 jobs posted per month |
| 00:34.22 | evangineer | Leeds: true, but a specific jobs list might get more postings |
| 00:40.32 | Marios_ | this is interesting....Older people vote for Bush....younger people for Kerry |
| 00:42.11 | Leeds | older people tend to lean to the right, younger people to the left |
| 00:42.57 | Marios_ | if you are talking about US this is correct but I know many countries which is exactly the opposite |
| 00:43.53 | Leeds | I think it's true in most western countires |
| 00:46.12 | Marios_ | some other countries young people tend to vote what their families vote |
| 00:47.34 | Leeds | yeah, but that's not a true vote |
| 00:48.08 | Marios_ | well yeah but the outcome is what matters |
| 00:48.31 | Marios_ | Fox projecting exactly the same as CNN |
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| 01:01.48 | Marios_ | 77 Kerry vs 66 Bush |
| 01:14.46 | Marios_ | Leeds: nobody can influence it any more ;) |
| 01:14.59 | Leeds | not even in Hawaii? |
| 01:15.08 | Marios_ | lol |
| 01:15.12 | Leeds | (or Alaska) |
| 01:15.18 | Marios_ | they only have 2 electoral votes |
| 01:15.19 | Marios_ | 2 or 3 |
| 01:15.31 | mozrat | Marios_: isn't it 3 minimum? |
| 01:15.36 | Marios_ | they do so many stupid things in the elections here |
| 01:16.06 | Leeds | if it's senate seats plus rep. seats, it must be a minimum of 3 |
| 01:17.01 | Marios_ | hawaii has 4 |
| 01:17.05 | Marios_ | yeah minimum 3 |
| 01:18.39 | Marios_ | Alaska and Southe Dakota have 3 |
| 01:20.47 | Leeds | RI? |
| 01:20.54 | Leeds | must be 3 |
| 01:21.28 | Marios_ | it is 4 |
| 01:21.40 | Marios_ | I think Providence is highly populated |
| 01:21.52 | Leeds | ah... smallest land area, not smallest population! |
| 01:22.14 | Marios_ | yes |
| 01:22.22 | Marios_ | South Dakota is huge |
| 01:22.31 | Leeds | my new firebox build seems to have included a calendar by accident :-) |
| 01:22.34 | Marios_ | but very little populated |
| 01:23.02 | Marios_ | Bush is in front in Florida |
| 01:23.27 | Leeds | but not a very good calendar... |
| 01:24.17 | Marios_ | why ? |
| 01:24.31 | Leeds | because it seems to crash the browser when I load it... |
| 01:26.02 | Marios_ | ohhh too bad then ;) |
| 01:36.30 | Leeds | but I built it with an up-to-date gcc, optimised for my chip - and it seems quite speedy :-) |
| 01:37.54 | Marios_ | is it a branded firewall ? |
| 01:40.43 | Leeds | firewall? |
| 01:40.45 | Leeds | ah... |
| 01:40.52 | Leeds | um... I should have said firefox, not firebox :-) |
| 01:41.06 | Marios_ | ohhhh |
| 01:41.07 | Marios_ | lol |
| 01:41.28 | Leeds | firebox is an online gadget/boys-toys shop in the UK :-) |
| 01:41.29 | Marios_ | now it makes more sense |
| 01:41.40 | Marios_ | hahahha |
| 01:41.53 | Marios_ | I thought you were talking about a firewall |
| 01:41.59 | Marios_ | ....with a calendar ;) |
| 01:43.32 | Marios_ | Leeds: do you like Larry King ? |
| 01:44.00 | Marios_ | I think is the best journalist in the US |
| 01:44.43 | Leeds | I've not seen him very much, but he does seem good... not *BBC* good, but good for an American |
| 01:45.49 | Marios_ | I watch him every night and I like him a lot... |
| 01:46.05 | Marios_ | I used to watch him years ago when I had a dish for CNN in Cyprus |
| 01:46.14 | Marios_ | I remember him from the first gulf war |
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| 01:48.36 | Leeds | anyway, I need to go to bed |
| 01:49.14 | Leeds | g'night |