irclog2html for #gllug on 20050102

00:00.36Georgewhich one?
00:01.07Georgemodel name      : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
00:01.10Georgecpu MHz         : 2030.570
00:01.14Georgeflags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow
00:01.18Georgebogomips        : 4014.08
00:01.55resuDaedhow do you specify an nfs root?
00:02.17resuDaedKERNEL image root=10.0.1.100:/exports/pxedebian ?
00:02.41Copeyou may need to specify machine
00:02.43Copenot sure
00:02.47Copenever done this before
00:02.55resuDaedspecify machine?
00:03.15Copebut normal nfs stylee would be mynfserver:/path/to/stuff
00:03.27Copeoh missed the ip
00:03.28Copesorry
00:03.31Copegetting tired
00:03.50Copeyeah, I'd guess  that would work fine
00:04.01resuDaedthat was my thought, but it didn't work
00:04.06Copebollocks
00:04.23resuDaed(still retty rewarding to see my kernel starting to boot though)
00:04.52Copethis is an AND gate
00:06.17Georgeok, that's courier-imap sorta working
00:06.18Georgenow....
00:06.24Georgeto get it to allow me to make subdirectories
00:11.19evangineerGeorge, the correct imap speak is folders
00:11.43Georgeevangineer: same difference.
00:12.41evangineerindeed, I'm just a bit of a stickler about nomenclature sometimes
00:13.28Copelol
00:14.03Georgebleh, uploading 314MB of emails to my server
00:14.42Copestrewth
00:14.43resuDaedCope : nfsroot= as opposed to root= :-)
00:14.50Copegah!
00:24.20GeorgeCope: know much about postfix?
00:25.27Copenope, lots about sendmail
00:25.46CopeI never bothered to learn anything else; as no-one in real life uses it.
00:26.56Copehint: bin it, install sendmail, ask again
00:27.39Cope(although we do actually do use postfix on our own main mailservers)
00:27.59Copepostfix is superb, just not got round to learning about it.
00:28.33Copewhat's the generic issue?
00:28.49Georgei want to tell it to send email to both /var/spool and ~Maildir
00:29.06Copewhy/
00:29.07Cope?
00:29.19Copethat's what procmail is for
00:29.44Copeor am I showing myself to be horribly out of fashion and date again?
00:30.22CopeTRB rocks
00:30.24GeorgeCope: because I want pop3 access, as well as imap
00:30.41GeorgeCope: and the imap uses Maildir, pop3 uses /var/spool (plus I'd rather have them separate anyway)
00:30.52Georgethen if I download using pop3 it doesn't destroy my IMAP
00:31.28Copeerm, you appear to be confused
00:31.44Georgeactually, screw it
00:31.49GeorgeI'll go IMAP only
00:31.50Copelol
00:31.54Copegood scheme
00:32.02GeorgeI hope disconnected IMAP works on KMail.
00:32.48Copeshould do
00:32.53Copeoh..... wait... kde is shit
00:33.13GeorgeCope: die.
00:33.48Copedie: Command not found.
00:35.47resuDaedCope: am getting errors as follows ...
00:36.11resuDaedLokking up protof RPC 100003/2 on 10.0.1.100
00:36.21Copeeek
00:36.26Copeat what stage?
00:36.28resuDaedRPC: sendmsg returned error 101
00:36.37resuDaedat kernel attempting to mount root stage
00:36.43Copeshit
00:37.02resuDaeds/protof/port of
00:37.09Copeyeah got that
00:37.17resuDaedok
00:37.20resuDaed:-)
00:37.34resuDaedwhat normally causes that?
00:37.43Copeyou've googled? as that's all I'm going to do
00:38.34GeorgeCope: ok, another thing. How do I transition an entire mysql database from one pootah to another?
00:43.57Copeeasy
00:44.19Copejust back it up and restore it to a new destination
00:44.23Georgehow...?
00:44.24Copeshould be a piece of piss
00:44.29Copeamanda?
00:44.31Copetar?
00:44.35Georgeok.
00:44.35Copecpio?
00:44.37George...
00:44.43Georgewhere's the mysql data kept?
00:44.55Copedepends on your setup
00:45.03Copecheck the config
00:46.22evangineernot sure if disconnected imap works though.
00:48.52evangineerGeorge, if disconnected imap doesn't work, check out http://gopher.quux.org:70/devel/offlineimap/
00:52.02resuDaedCope : I think it is an ip config error
00:52.19Georgebah, my blog's broken.
00:52.59resuDaedIP-Config: Complete: ... device=eth0 addr=166.0.0.0, mask=255.255.0.0,gw=255.255.255.255 and many more *badly* guessed settings)
00:53.30Copeheh
00:56.39resuDaedwahey, it has got further now, it's mounting ok, just as read only
00:56.51Copesweet
00:56.54resuDaed(had to append ip=bootp to tell it to use it's dhcp settings)
00:57.04resuDaeddoh
00:57.30Copeawesome!!! TRB kicks ass
00:58.24CopeFreedom from the reds and the blacks and the criminals
00:58.24CopeProstitutes, pansies and punks
00:58.24CopeFootball hooligans, juvenile delinquents
00:58.24CopeLesbians and left wing scum
00:58.24CopeFreedom from the niggers and the Pakis and the unions
00:58.27CopeFreedom from the Gipsies and the Jews
00:58.29CopeFreedom from leftwing layabouts and students
00:58.32CopeFreedom from the likes of you..."
00:58.44Cope</severe sarcasm>
00:59.18GeorgeProblem with SQL
00:59.20George[SELECT *,DAYOFMONTH(dEntryDate) AS day,MONTH(dEntryDate) AS month,YEAR(dEntryDate) AS year FROM blog WHERE MONTH(dEntryDate)='1' AND YEAR(dEntryDate)='2005' ORDER BY nIdCode;]
00:59.23Georgebollocks.
01:03.08Copeevangineer would be a good person to ask
01:03.30Georgeall I did was cp the mysql stuff over
01:03.31Georgeblah
01:03.34Copemy current experiece is confined to oracle
01:03.36Georgeperhaps I have conflicting version of mysql
01:03.48Copewell, that should work
01:04.14GeorgeI have 3.x on the old server and 4.x on the new one
01:04.15Georgeblast
01:05.30resuDaedso nearlly working
01:05.53resuDaedit's now completley booting, just still cannot get it to mount / rw
01:06.28evangineerGeorge are you using the same table type in 4.x?
01:08.34evangineerso you are querying for blog entries from January 2005?
01:10.04evangineerwhat happens if you running that query directly from the mysql prompt?
01:10.13evangineers/running/run/
01:11.30evangineerdoes the blog code at least connect to the new mysql server?
01:15.26Georgeevangineer: I dunno anything about mysql, btw
01:15.30Georgeevangineer: yes, it connects
01:15.53Georgeevangineer: what i did was I scp'd the /var/lib/mysql/orcablog directory to the same place on the new server
01:16.04Georgeevangineer: then went in, did the GRANT stuff to create a new user with the right username/pass
01:16.11Georgeevangineer: and that's what the blog churns out
01:18.00Copehrm
01:18.05evangineerhmm, what's your /etc/my.cnf look like?
01:18.31Copekinda like a text file.... is that ok?
01:18.40evangineerheh
01:19.15evangineerGeorge, stick your /etc/my.cnf in a pastebin somewhere
01:19.58evangineerbit early to be back from the jongleurs isn't it?
01:20.16Georgeevangineer: I'm using the default my.cnf
01:20.31Leedsit wasn't the comedy show - it was a party in the bar upstairs, and it stopped at around midnight
01:20.49evangineerand how does that compare to your old one, George?
01:20.54Georgeevangineer: http://rafb.net/paste/results/W0cIan60.html
01:21.04Georgeevangineer: no idea, I think I used the stock one for the old one too :)
01:21.36Georgeevangineer: btw, the old one: mysql  Ver 11.15 Distrib 3.23.44, for suse-linux (i686)
01:21.44Georgeevangineer: and the new one: mysql  Ver 12.22 Distrib 4.0.22, for pc-linux (i386)
01:23.27Georgeevangineer: http://rafb.net/paste/results/OhS1ZM91.html <-- That's the old one
01:27.19GeorgeKope?
01:28.04Kope:(
01:29.31evangineerGeorge, I think the scp was a bad idea
01:29.43evangineeryou should have done a mysqldump
01:30.08Georgemysqldump?
01:30.24Leedsyes, you should have done a dump
01:30.42Georgehey, it was Kope's suggestion
01:32.58Leedsnight all
01:33.54resuDaedok, I have an nfs mount with the settings (sync,rw,no_root_squash), however when I try to write to it I get permission denied, any ideas?
01:34.29Kopehrm
01:34.42resuDaedrunning mount tells me that it is mounted rw
01:34.57resuDaed(I have tried mounting from another machine and have the same problem)
01:37.20resuDaedtom@osiris:/mnt/kernel$ ls -ld pxedebian/
01:37.22resuDaeddrwxr-xr-x  20 root root 4096 2005-01-01 23:32 pxedebian/
01:39.02KoperesuDaed: I am pissed, and therefore of no use to you at all; other than at a conceptual level.
01:39.08Georgeevangineer: ah, using mysql sorted it
01:39.11George*glares at Kope*
01:44.06evangineerGeorge, so what did you do exactly?
01:44.58Georgeevangineer: mysqldump --databases orcablog > foo.sql; scp foo.sql foo:
01:45.00Georgethen mysql < foo.sql
01:45.17evangineerGeorge, excellent
01:45.25Georgeevangineer: hrmm?
01:45.42evangineerthat's the way I would have done it.
01:45.49Georgeheh
01:45.49Georgeok
01:45.55GeorgeI continue to blame Kope
01:46.03George:)
01:50.10Kopeevangineer: decreasing amounts
01:50.34Kopealthough its special brew that is poisoning me today
01:50.51resuDaedat what time should the kernel remount root?
01:51.01Kope23.46
01:52.17resuDaedibot lart Kope
01:53.49evangineerdepending on the amount of special brew consumed, you could probably know Kope over with a feather
01:53.57evangineers/know/knock/
01:54.02resuDaedlol
01:54.12Kopellol
01:54.46Kope(which is hugely rare)
02:03.21Georgesleep time
02:38.52resuDaedanyone still up?