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| 01:26.50 | Marios_ | anybody alive? |
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| 08:56.06 | mozrat | morning morsing |
| 08:58.40 | rdancer | morning! |
| 08:58.45 | mozrat | allo! |
| 08:58.58 | rdancer | dobré ránko 8-) |
| 08:59.10 | mozrat | really? |
| 08:59.30 | morsing | mornign |
| 08:59.32 | rdancer | good morning in cs |
| 08:59.42 | morsing | Godmorgen then :-) |
| 08:59.42 | mozrat | ah ha |
| 08:59.51 | rdancer | morsing: that's nordic |
| 08:59.55 | morsing | Yup |
| 09:01.40 | mozrat | Hmmm, someone has sent me a rar file.. |
| 09:01.55 | rdancer | morsing: unrar |
| 09:02.29 | rdancer | ibot: info unrar |
| 09:03.13 | mozrat | why is that non-free? |
| 09:03.31 | rdancer | morsing: apt-cache show unrar |
| 09:03.53 | rdancer | morsing: iirc, patent problems have been resolved only recently |
| 09:04.37 | mozrat | rdancer, I am mozrat. Nice to meet you :P |
| 09:04.38 | rdancer | morsing: so that the only available was the shareware port from windows. there is a free version in experimental. but don't beat me if i'm wrong |
| 09:04.44 | rdancer | eh |
| 09:04.53 | rdancer | sorry, mozrat |
| 09:04.56 | mozrat | :) |
| 09:04.59 | rdancer | sorry, morsing |
| 09:05.02 | mozrat | np... Leeds is the main offender |
| 09:05.29 | mozrat | Thanks, rdancer.. I'll do it on the mac |
| 09:06.05 | rdancer | you're welcome, mo<tab> |
| 09:06.12 | rdancer | ;-) |
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| 09:07.31 | rdancer | ee question: can i somehow make the standard AT switching power supply produce a 19V DC for me? |
| 09:07.40 | rdancer | hi, SlayerXP |
| 09:07.49 | SlayerXP | morning |
| 09:08.06 | SlayerXP | answer: I have no idea. |
| 09:08.19 | rdancer | ~seen evangeneer |
| 09:08.20 | ibot | rdancer: i haven't seen 'evangeneer' |
| 09:08.56 | SlayerXP | ~seen evangineer |
| 09:08.57 | ibot | evangineer is currently on #gllug (1d 12h 10m 39s) #ud (1d 12h 10m 39s). Has said a total of 22 messages. Is idling for 14h 30m 40s |
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| 09:15.27 | Leeds | yo funky dudes |
| 09:16.11 | morsing | Yo |
| 09:17.08 | morsing | laomao: How are you? |
| 09:17.26 | eye69 | Hi Leeds |
| 09:17.43 | Leeds | morsing: holy |
| 09:17.45 | eye69 | Hi everybody, btw. |
| 09:17.54 | Leeds | morning eye69 |
| 09:21.27 | rdancer | MORGEN! |
| 09:21.35 | Leeds | boker |
| 09:23.32 | rdancer | i finally realized yesterday that 1and1 supports perl, probably. so i have an option to rewrite the project in perl. shit if i only knew it 2 months ago... |
| 09:27.28 | Leeds | ugh, perl |
| 09:28.00 | morsing | Magnus! |
| 09:46.28 | eye69 | Hey morsing |
| 09:47.05 | SlayerXP | bored. |
| 09:47.14 | SlayerXP | someone hire me to install a spam filtering mail server |
| 09:48.11 | Leeds | get a job, you bum |
| 09:49.10 | edward | http://gallery.edwardbetts.co.uk/gallery/yorkway_closed/cimg0055 <-- York Road closed |
| 09:49.22 | edward | http://gallery.edwardbetts.co.uk/gallery/yorkway_closed/cimg0064 <-- They knocked down the bridge over the rail line |
| 09:53.47 | Leeds | right, that's another Discworld book done |
| 09:54.03 | SlayerXP | which one? |
| 09:54.58 | Leeds | Lords and Ladies, this time |
| 09:55.08 | SlayerXP | not a bad one |
| 09:55.22 | SlayerXP | go ahead, bake my quiche. |
| 09:55.32 | Leeds | I'm not such a fan of the witches books - but I'm on a roll with them now |
| 09:56.10 | Leeds | anyway, shit'n'shower time... |
| 09:57.11 | Leeds | if you've not read it, I highly recommend Going Postal |
| 09:58.37 | SlayerXP | read it |
| 09:58.56 | SlayerXP | i preorder all the discworld books |
| 09:59.01 | SlayerXP | have the whole lot in hardback |
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| 10:18.22 | mozrat | Hmm, I seem to have *really* upset evolution |
| 10:18.36 | Leeds | mozrat: fish with wings? |
| 10:18.59 | mozrat | Crashes reading my calendar... and everytime I restart it, it opens that calendar instantly crashing |
| 10:19.01 | mozrat | Leeds, lol |
| 10:22.58 | wethrin | Morning |
| 10:23.08 | Leeds | yup |
| 10:27.50 | Leeds | foo... |
| 10:27.55 | SlayerXP | bar |
| 10:27.56 | wethrin | bar? |
| 10:28.03 | Leeds | don't mind if I do... |
| 10:29.47 | morsing | morning wethrin |
| 10:32.21 | wethrin | HI MORSING! |
| 10:32.22 | Leeds | wethrin: be nice and say good morning to mozrat! |
| 10:32.30 | wethrin | Hi mozrat |
| 10:32.46 | mozrat | Hi wethrin |
| 10:33.01 | mozrat | Hello Richard "Mr Broken Autocomplete" Cohen |
| 10:33.56 | SlayerXP | still bored |
| 10:34.03 | Leeds | aka Richard "Mr. Carries On A Joke Far Too Far" Cohen |
| 10:34.14 | SlayerXP | tempted to phone the estate agent and ask why no-one's been viewing for a week |
| 10:34.22 | SlayerXP | but I suspect I'd need to tidy the house if I did that |
| 10:38.25 | wethrin | Pff. Tidying is overrated |
| 10:38.33 | wethrin | The new lot are only going to make a mess anyway |
| 10:38.54 | SlayerXP | i have cats |
| 10:39.05 | SlayerXP | clearing up the rodent detritus would be a good idea |
| 10:39.21 | wethrin | Hide the cats |
| 10:39.23 | wethrin | :) |
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| 10:47.22 | mozrat | ibot lart evolution |
| 10:47.54 | mozrat | I thought one of the principles of UNIX was to keep all user specific configuration inside $HOME |
| 10:48.06 | mozrat | and not keep per user settings outside of there |
| 10:48.07 | mozrat | ?? |
| 10:48.25 | wethrin | Yes, Unix, but Linux + desktop environments are trying to become like Windows |
| 10:48.39 | mozrat | Well thats crapola then |
| 10:48.40 | mozrat | :( |
| 10:48.57 | wethrin | Welcome to the World of Tomorrow! |
| 10:49.19 | mozrat | hmm |
| 10:50.36 | mozrat | ibot lart the world of tomorrow |
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| 10:56.01 | morsing | beer |
| 10:57.45 | wethrin | /etc/registry? :) |
| 11:00.53 | morsing | rm /etc/registry |
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| 11:28.43 | morsing | Welcome |
| 11:28.51 | Leeds | thank you |
| 11:28.55 | Leeds | it's good to be here |
| 11:29.20 | wethrin | Is it? |
| 11:29.25 | wethrin | Wouldn't you rather be in Spain? |
| 11:30.25 | morsing | I wouldn't |
| 11:30.31 | morsing | Anyone coming for lunch? |
| 11:30.43 | wethrin | I'm a bit far away |
| 11:30.46 | Leeds | Spain, possibly... |
| 11:30.54 | Leeds | morsing: where? :-) |
| 11:31.39 | Leeds | not that I didn't buy my lunch at M&S this morning when I went to get breakfast milk... |
| 11:36.39 | morsing | Leeds: Tony and Maria's? |
| 11:37.09 | Leeds | where's that and what's that then? I don't know it |
| 11:38.40 | morsing | It's in Croxley business park |
| 11:39.28 | Leeds | wrong end of town! I've not been over there for years :-) |
| 11:40.35 | Leeds | and what is it anyway? |
| 11:41.15 | Leeds | Italian? |
| 11:41.21 | morsing | Yes. And good |
| 11:41.32 | Leeds | hmm... I could be tempted :-) |
| 11:41.41 | morsing | :-) |
| 11:57.17 | Leeds | so, tempt me... before I go for a walk into town for the exercise... |
| 12:08.45 | Leeds | morsing: ping? |
| 12:36.14 | morsing | Leeds: pong. Had to go to the canteen. No-one wanted to go |
| 12:53.22 | wethrin | foo |
| 12:55.15 | morsing | bar |
| 12:57.25 | SlayerXP | bored |
| 12:57.29 | SlayerXP | and I have heartburn |
| 12:57.33 | SlayerXP | no wine for me today |
| 12:57.36 | wethrin | do vacuuming |
| 12:57.42 | SlayerXP | done some |
| 12:58.30 | Leeds | morsing: I gave up and went into town |
| 12:59.04 | morsing | Any network engineers here looking for a job? |
| 12:59.24 | morsing | Leeds: Some other day |
| 13:00.31 | wethrin | morsing: evangineer? |
| 13:00.37 | SlayerXP | depends what you mean by network engineer |
| 13:00.44 | morsing | Is he as network engineer? |
| 13:01.04 | morsing | BigIP, Nokia firewalls etc |
| 13:01.08 | wethrin | ~evangineer |
| 13:01.09 | ibot | [evangineer] a term coined by Guy Kawasaki, a combination of evangelist and engineer: someone who wants to change the world and has the technical knowledge to do it, or an autodidact who occasionally attends gllug meetings and has been known to show up on the mailing list and irc. |
| 13:01.44 | SlayerXP | oh, no |
| 13:02.00 | morsing | Security and design as well |
| 13:02.02 | SlayerXP | i'm sysadmin, debian zealot and mail systems guru |
| 13:02.20 | morsing | I've tried to apply for the job but he laughed at me |
| 13:02.36 | wethrin | Why's zealot a good thing? :) |
| 13:03.05 | morsing | ~zealot |
| 13:03.06 | ibot | zealot is probably a person like Error403, or a protos unit in StarCraft, both the original and the expansionpack Broodwar |
| 13:03.17 | morsing | ~wethrin |
| 13:03.19 | ibot | wethrin is, like, bigger than a breadbox, unless said breadbox is > 5'11" long, or silly, or afraid that its time to correct how people use it's |
| 13:03.25 | SlayerXP | people who prefer debian for data centres tend to have two clues to rub together |
| 13:03.43 | morsing | ~coffee |
| 13:03.44 | ibot | i heard coffee is s probably for staying awake, or a proof for the inability of human language to describe God (Wittgenstein). Formula: 3,7-Dihydro-1,3,7-trimethyl-1H-purine-2,6-dione |
| 13:03.48 | wethrin | Mmm. Crap :) |
| 13:03.53 | SlayerXP | unlike RPM weenies who, generally, know how to click on stuff |
| 13:04.05 | wethrin | That's not entirely true! |
| 13:04.15 | wethrin | Lots of proper sysadmins know how to use RPM |
| 13:04.35 | SlayerXP | yes, a proper sysadmin would |
| 13:05.13 | SlayerXP | not everyone who claims to be a sysadmin is actually good at it |
| 13:05.21 | wethrin | I wonder how many Debianites actually know how to use dpkg properly |
| 13:05.28 | wethrin | Very true |
| 13:05.28 | SlayerXP | "I'm a sysadmin!" "no, you're a chimp with the root password" |
| 13:06.57 | Leeds | if it helps, I claim to be a bad sysadmin |
| 13:07.11 | wethrin | Yes, but you're really a code monkey |
| 13:07.16 | Leeds | true |
| 13:07.19 | Leeds | ook |
| 13:08.00 | wethrin | So, have you started using mirrored drives yet? |
| 13:08.04 | SlayerXP | the only thing better than being sysadmin is being sysadmin with a boss who trusts you |
| 13:08.27 | wethrin | Arrr. Most strangely, I had there where I worked. But then my boss was also a clueful sysadmin |
| 13:08.32 | SlayerXP | at my last salaried job I had a windows guy who wanred to do something silly |
| 13:08.49 | SlayerXP | I said no, so he went to my boss who said "I thought Mart said no?" |
| 13:09.06 | wethrin | Heh :) |
| 13:14.28 | morsing | SlayerXP: Where do you work? |
| 13:14.45 | morsing | Wethrin: fos-dem fos-dem fos-dem |
| 13:14.49 | SlayerXP | now? I don't |
| 13:14.54 | SlayerXP | i quit my company |
| 13:15.00 | wethrin | morsing: Yes, I know |
| 13:15.00 | morsing | Ok |
| 13:16.10 | wethrin | I should send emails or stuff |
| 13:25.59 | wethrin | morsing: So, youth hostel? |
| 13:30.19 | Leeds | wethrin: I'm waiting to hear back from work - hopefully later today... I'm expecting a yes, but if I get a no, I might slum it with you :-) |
| 13:30.29 | wethrin | Muaha. Okay |
| 13:30.39 | morsing | wethrin: why not |
| 13:30.46 | wethrin | I'm going to try to avoid the big crowd of Debianites, hopefully |
| 13:30.59 | Leeds | always a good plan |
| 13:31.26 | wethrin | Yes. *chatter* *chatter* Debian debian debian *chatter* debian apt-get wonderful *chatter* debian |
| 13:31.29 | wethrin | GAH |
| 13:32.18 | Leeds | *chatter* *chatter* sign my key *chatter* *chatter* social contract means we can't ship mozilla *chatter* *chatter* licensed from the FSF aren't free enough for us *chatter* *chatter* |
| 13:32.41 | wethrin | Ah yes. That too. |
| 13:33.06 | SlayerXP | they do ship mozilla |
| 13:33.50 | SlayerXP | where as in planet redhat *chatter chatter* how do I get p2p working? I can't find where to click? *chatter* |
| 13:34.10 | wethrin | Yes, but not amongst RedHat developers |
| 13:34.24 | SlayerXP | *chatter* *chatter* installed a new server with this week's version of Fedora *chatter* |
| 13:35.12 | SlayerXP | fedora users tend to be those people who wouldn't be able to use their computer if you stole their mouse |
| 13:35.37 | Leeds | fucking elitist debian freaks |
| 13:35.37 | wethrin | Yes, but the Fedora people are far less vocal |
| 13:35.49 | wethrin | :) |
| 13:35.51 | SlayerXP | Leeds: if you have a point, please do make it :) |
| 13:36.26 | Leeds | me? nope, no point... |
| 13:41.20 | wethrin | Mmm. Points. |
| 13:41.59 | Leeds | we know what they make, right? |
| 13:42.20 | wethrin | A join the dots puzzle? |
| 13:42.43 | Leeds | I was thinking of a place where trains can choose from multiple paths |
| 13:42.54 | wethrin | A junction? |
| 13:44.39 | Leeds | to some extent |
| 13:44.51 | morsing | beer |
| 13:44.58 | wethrin | Points don't mean beer, morsing |
| 13:45.15 | morsing | If you drive at the same time... |
| 13:45.22 | wethrin | True |
| 13:47.02 | wethrin | Hmm. According to one spam, I can get 80% off AGK |
| 13:47.26 | morsing | AGK? |
| 13:47.28 | morsing | Football? |
| 13:47.35 | morsing | Are they for sale? |
| 13:47.46 | wethrin | Not unless RedHat is selling employees |
| 13:50.03 | Leeds | http://benyehuda.org/ is the Israeli version of project gutenberg - posting out-of-copyright Hebrew stuff... Ben Yehuda was the guy who (re)created modern Hebrew... |
| 13:56.33 | wethrin | hi evangineer |
| 13:56.36 | wethrin | Are you after a job? |
| 13:57.24 | evangineer | you referring to morsing's thing, bigip and nokia firewalls? I don't do those. |
| 13:58.32 | wethrin | Oh |
| 13:59.05 | evangineer | thanks for looking out for me though, much appreciated |
| 13:59.46 | evangineer | ~seen SlayerXP |
| 13:59.48 | ibot | slayerxp is currently on #gllug (4h 53m 11s) #debian (4h 53m 11s). Has said a total of 81 messages. Is idling for 11m 30s |
| 14:00.08 | SlayerXP | can I help you? |
| 14:00.35 | evangineer | wondering about why you were looking for me earlier |
| 14:00.44 | SlayerXP | i wasn't |
| 14:00.47 | evangineer | ah |
| 14:01.00 | SlayerXP | I was pedantly correcting someone else's mistyping of your nick |
| 14:01.22 | evangineer | yes, I see that now |
| 14:02.20 | SlayerXP | no charge for it, either |
| 14:03.02 | evangineer | I'm sure rdancer will appreciate that |
| 14:03.26 | SlayerXP | i meant to you :) |
| 14:03.44 | evangineer | cheeky bugger! ;-) |
| 14:06.55 | evangineer | time to go for a walk, late lunch or something then |
| 14:07.08 | wethrin | Leeds: So sleep |
| 14:07.33 | Leeds | I went for a walk, then had lunch, now I'm sleepy... |
| 14:07.43 | wethrin | You should have done it the other way round |
| 14:07.58 | Leeds | and I don't think it would be appreciated if I went to sleep now |
| 14:08.15 | wethrin | Hide under the desk |
| 14:08.16 | evangineer | time for some caffeine then |
| 14:08.29 | Leeds | just finished a bottle of cola... |
| 14:08.47 | evangineer | jolt? |
| 14:08.51 | Leeds | pepsi max |
| 14:08.59 | Leeds | I blame the drugs... |
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| 14:09.41 | JAV | good afternoon |
| 14:09.41 | evangineer | Can you open a window? |
| 14:09.47 | Leeds | an xterm? |
| 14:09.52 | Leeds | JAV: good afternoon |
| 14:09.56 | morsing | evangineer: My boss hasn't really reacted to the Websphere thing unfortunately |
| 14:10.03 | evangineer | hey JAV |
| 14:10.12 | evangineer | morsing: I had noticed |
| 14:10.20 | Leeds | maybe some music would help... |
| 14:11.04 | evangineer | Leeds: try opening one of those glass panels in the wall, I believe they are called windows |
| 14:11.27 | Leeds | they're all well-sealed around here |
| 14:11.31 | evangineer | ah |
| 14:11.46 | Leeds | I'm on the third floor, if nothing else |
| 14:11.56 | evangineer | air-conditioned right |
| 14:12.05 | Leeds | sure |
| 14:13.47 | evangineer | problem with air-con is what suits one person is wrong for someone else |
| 14:14.03 | Leeds | well... walks to nearby thermometer... |
| 14:14.25 | morsing | Mmm... air-con |
| 14:14.26 | Leeds | it's 71.6 degrees in here |
| 14:14.37 | Leeds | ibot convert 71.6 farenheit to celcius |
| 14:14.41 | morsing | It's 22.4 degrees here |
| 14:14.57 | morsing | ibot convert 71.6 farenheit to celcius |
| 14:15.12 | evangineer | ibot convert 71.6 fahrenheit to celsius |
| 14:15.41 | evangineer | ibot convert 71.6 F to C |
| 14:15.54 | Leeds | ibot convert 71.6 F to K |
| 14:16.06 | Leeds | ibot you suck |
| 14:16.24 | wethrin | Does ibot do calculations too? |
| 14:16.29 | morsing | ibot suck ibot |
| 14:16.31 | ibot | ACTION sucks ibot's forehead |
| 14:16.44 | Leeds | ibot 71.6 * 5 / 9 |
| 14:16.45 | ibot | 39.777777777778 |
| 14:17.05 | Leeds | ibot (71.6-32) * 5 / 9 |
| 14:17.06 | ibot | 22 |
| 14:17.09 | wethrin | That's better :) |
| 14:17.12 | Leeds | indeed |
| 14:17.28 | Leeds | see, I'd like it a couple of degrees cooler, really |
| 14:17.40 | wethrin | 22 is a reasonable room temp |
| 14:17.49 | wethrin | my room is about 23C, and that's without heating on |
| 14:18.52 | Leeds | my room is normally about 17C at this time of year without heating |
| 14:19.07 | morsing | Leeds: you haven't got enough servers |
| 14:19.10 | wethrin | I guess the people next to me have heating on, and my room is being a sink |
| 14:19.12 | Leeds | true |
| 14:19.21 | wethrin | Although I do have a swerver running |
| 14:19.32 | wethrin | ibot .68 * 220 |
| 14:19.33 | ibot | 149.6 |
| 14:19.46 | wethrin | But it's only drawing 150W, so not heating much |
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| 14:50.38 | AndrewBlack | evangineer :I thought windows were those things that came from redmond. Perhaps I need to get out more? |
| 15:20.49 | morsing | http://www.volvoclub.org.uk/parts_nordic.htm |
| 15:26.03 | wethrin | hurrah. I have my own set of clean room clothes now |
| 15:26.38 | SlayerXP | you can scare people by walking around in it whilst holding a gizmo that makes clicking noises |
| 15:27.22 | Leeds | my mouse mat is losing its surface and getting shiny :-( |
| 15:28.39 | wethrin | SlayerXP: Yes indeed I can |
| 15:41.43 | morsing | http://www.ipdusa.com/Images/categories/Collectibles/volvopkgsign.jpg |
| 15:47.34 | rdancer | ee question repost: can i somehow make the standard AT switching power supply produce a 19V DC for me? |
| 15:48.40 | wethrin | It is possible to step DC voltages up, but it's not nice |
| 15:51.54 | rdancer | wethrin: isn't it possible to wire the 12V outlets somehow, and drop the 24V? |
| 15:52.53 | wethrin | So put -12V on ground, and +12V on high? |
| 15:52.56 | rdancer | yes |
| 15:53.16 | wethrin | Could work |
| 15:53.25 | rdancer | with a switching ps |
| 15:53.49 | wethrin | Won't make any difference if it's switching or linear |
| 15:53.59 | rdancer | and the comp shouldn't notice (it's a notebook) |
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| 15:55.25 | rdancer | but at the same time, connecting it to anything without optical isolators probably would result in the ground potentials differing by 12V, correct? |
| 15:55.38 | rdancer | s/isolators/insulation/ |
| 15:56.03 | mikejw | hi |
| 15:56.07 | rdancer | lo |
| 15:56.10 | mikejw | =] |
| 15:57.16 | wethrin | Yes |
| 15:57.24 | wethrin | so you're better off getting a proper power supply |
| 15:58.27 | rdancer | thanks. |
| 15:58.31 | rdancer | eeeeee |
| 15:58.32 | SlayerXP | attaches |
| 15:58.33 | rdancer | eeeeee |
| 15:58.36 | rdancer | eeeeee |
| 15:58.37 | rdancer | eeee |
| 15:58.40 | rdancer | eiiiiiiiiiii! |
| 16:00.10 | rdancer | SlayerXP: that wasn't very clever of you |
| 16:00.13 | Leeds | rdancer: I'm not taking you to the hospital, no matter how much your nipples are smoking |
| 16:00.26 | wethrin | Maybe his nipples explode with delight? |
| 16:00.59 | rdancer | actually, i prefer more delicate forms of arousal |
| 16:01.11 | mikejw | :D |
| 16:02.11 | rdancer | as i think about it, most of them don't use any high voltages |
| 16:02.26 | wethrin | But low voltages are okay? |
| 16:02.28 | rdancer | oh wait, except for pr0n of course |
| 16:02.41 | rdancer | *grin* |
| 16:04.28 | rdancer | wethrin: nervous system voltages are pretty much ok 8-) |
| 16:05.02 | wethrin | Okay |
| 16:09.13 | Leeds | which exam? |
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| 16:13.42 | mikejw | Leeds: "Programming Methodology" |
| 16:14.11 | Leeds | mikejw: take it from me - there isn't one |
| 16:14.16 | mikejw | lol |
| 16:14.31 | mikejw | thanks for the advice :) |
| 16:20.14 | Leeds | bloody thunderbird... |
| 16:20.22 | SlayerXP | horrible drink |
| 16:20.25 | SlayerXP | far to 1980s |
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| 16:20.27 | SlayerXP | too |
| 16:22.06 | Leeds | morning Marios_ |
| 16:23.00 | Marios_ | morning ? |
| 16:23.04 | Marios_ | ;) |
| 16:23.14 | Leeds | it's always morning somewhere... |
| 16:40.05 | Marios_ | hehehehe |
| 16:43.42 | mikejw | Leeds: what's wrong with Thunderbird? |
| 16:44.15 | Leeds | mikejw: there's a problem with saving mail to the sent-mail folder sometimes... things get strange |
| 16:45.07 | mikejw | ah ok |
| 16:52.12 | rdancer | ibot: dict compartmentalised |
| 17:06.52 | wethrin | Hello again |
| 17:14.42 | SlayerXP | <gerard_> SlayerXP: For example, if i have an http server mounted on my debian, how i do an apt-get source :s? |
| 17:15.41 | wethrin | !? |
| 17:15.49 | wethrin | If I have an apple, how is it like an orange? |
| 17:16.21 | wethrin | For that matter, someone did a chemical comparison between apples and oranges (and got an igNobel prize for it), and found they were actually very similar |
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| 17:22.59 | wethrin | hi harkness |
| 17:37.06 | Leeds | I'm not seriously considering going to Paris overnight in a couple of weeks.... well, not very seriously |
| 17:39.14 | Leeds | do *not* eat iPod shuffle! |
| 17:39.26 | mikejw | :D |
| 17:39.30 | Leeds | footnote 2, IIRC |
| 17:40.26 | mikejw | I'll just polish it instead =] |
| 17:44.10 | Leeds | so you've actually got it? |
| 17:44.55 | mikejw | oh yeah, it came yesterday =] |
| 17:45.34 | Leeds | have you seen the pictures of someone who took his apart? |
| 17:45.37 | mikejw | my flatmate tells me it's not an iPod, but is to me =D |
| 17:45.47 | wethrin | It's not. It's an iShuffle |
| 17:45.59 | mikejw | wethrin: lol perhaps |
| 17:46.20 | mikejw | although it does clearly state on it that it is an iPod |
| 17:46.50 | wethrin | Bah |
| 17:47.22 | mikejw | from the iPod family perhaps |
| 17:47.28 | Marios_ | Leeds: I saw in a Travel agency ad, a package for 2 nights in Paris £99 (hotel + First Class EuroStar) |
| 17:49.03 | mikejw | Leeds: what did the iPod Shuffle dissection uncover? |
| 17:49.39 | Leeds | mikejw: well, it's got a battery... a USB plug... a couple of LEDs and some chips on a small circuit board... and a control pad... |
| 17:49.53 | Leeds | :-) |
| 17:49.53 | mikejw | hmmm |
| 17:50.12 | mikejw | curious =) |
| 18:21.25 | Leeds | bah, I've had enough... |
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| 18:57.15 | rdancer | having booted the debian installer, the key mapping is completely messed up, no key does what it should; most of them simply beep upon me when pressed -- wtf? sparcstation5 |
| 19:17.02 | Marios_ | come one Leeds buy some fresh carry...not frozen :) |
| 19:18.15 | Leeds | this is nice, convenient, and low-cal |
| 19:18.48 | Marios_ | I haven't tried it but in general I don't like frozen food |
| 19:19.44 | Leeds | oh, and cheap... |
| 19:21.11 | Marios_ | when it comes to food...cost is meaningless |
| 19:21.47 | Leeds | nope |
| 19:22.47 | Marios_ | did you see package for Paris I posted 2 hours ago in the channel ? |
| 19:24.09 | Leeds | I saw your comment |
| 19:24.20 | Marios_ | oh ok |
| 19:24.25 | Leeds | I wasn't really serious about going, and it was for a specific date - for a concert |
| 19:24.32 | Marios_ | I see |
| 19:24.39 | Marios_ | I am thinking to go next weekend |
| 19:24.52 | Marios_ | unless I buy a car |
| 19:28.49 | Leeds | I'd suggest the car, to be honest - if nothing else, leave Paris until the weather is a bit better - it's a bit miserable in the rain (not that I know what the weather is like there now...) |
| 19:29.15 | Leeds | yeah... rain today :-0 |
| 19:29.23 | Marios_ | yeah I think you are right |
| 19:30.50 | rdancer | hmm, debian netinst won't possibly bootstrap the keyboard properly. gentootime |
| 19:33.21 | rdancer | a-ha: ``We currently only support sparc64 CPUs''. gentoo-- |
| 19:34.04 | Leeds | rdancer: dude, you're obselete... |
| 19:38.50 | evangineer | rdancer: netbsd? |
| 19:38.56 | rdancer | evangineer: yes |
| 19:39.07 | rdancer | evangineer: that's where i'm at atm 8-) |
| 19:39.13 | rdancer | Leeds-- ;-) |
| 19:40.10 | rdancer | but i *knew* debian runs ss5. what i didn't know, it can't be *installed* on them... 8-/ |
| 19:40.38 | Leeds | if you can't install it, you're not l33t enough to run it |
| 19:41.00 | rdancer | Leeds: i can install it, but i don't have a nullmodem with me |
| 19:41.33 | rdancer | in fact, i could install it nevertheless, but i can't be arsed to dig into the netinst image. |
| 19:42.03 | rdancer | the objective of having these is to try running different distros anyway... |
| 19:42.34 | rdancer | netbsd.org doesn't have the words 'install' or 'download' anywhere on the front page |
| 19:43.23 | Leeds | again, you're simply not l33t enough |
| 19:44.02 | Leeds | there's a link "How to get NetBSD" - might that not be a good place to start? |
| 19:49.37 | rdancer | who am i to read the whole page? ;-) |
| 19:50.10 | rdancer | i'm pissed off whenever a keywoard search fails |
| 19:50.47 | rdancer | ok, let's fix the d-i while the netbsd is downloading... |
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| 20:01.58 | BobtheAvenger | hey all |
| 20:20.23 | George | yo BobtheAvenger |
| 20:20.56 | BobtheAvenger | sup george |
| 20:22.51 | rdancer | problem solved |
| 20:36.37 | George | BobtheAvenger: seems my lcds have shipped |
| 20:37.47 | BobtheAvenger | so you found £900 |
| 20:37.55 | George | yes... |
| 20:37.59 | BobtheAvenger | ok |
| 20:39.53 | BobtheAvenger | how big? |
| 20:40.04 | George | 20" |
| 20:40.10 | BobtheAvenger | ok |
| 20:50.18 | BobtheAvenger | how long does it take to install debian? |
| 20:50.23 | George | an hour |
| 20:50.26 | George | at most |
| 20:50.40 | George | didn't take me long to set up my Debian server with RAID-1 etc |
| 20:50.46 | BobtheAvenger | does that include gettinbg a gui? |
| 20:50.49 | George | yeah |
| 20:50.52 | BobtheAvenger | ok |
| 20:50.53 | George | if you have a fast internet connection |
| 20:50.59 | BobtheAvenger | ok |
| 20:51.04 | BobtheAvenger | not good then |
| 20:51.08 | George | go for KDE |
| 20:51.15 | BobtheAvenger | ok |
| 20:51.23 | BobtheAvenger | i'll have to do it thursday then |
| 20:51.36 | George | mm, exeat on Friday :) |
| 20:51.46 | BobtheAvenger | exeat? |
| 20:51.50 | George | yeah |
| 20:51.57 | George | weekend off from school. |
| 20:52.01 | BobtheAvenger | ok |
| 20:52.12 | Cope | rhowe: ping |
| 20:52.18 | George | Cope: yoyo |
| 20:52.22 | Cope | hello George |
| 20:52.27 | BobtheAvenger | hey cope |
| 20:52.28 | George | Cope: I'm impressed with Dell's service :) |
| 20:52.31 | Cope | hi BobtheAvenger |
| 20:52.35 | George | Cope: same day delivery :) |
| 20:52.44 | Cope | George: wow! |
| 20:53.00 | George | Cope: yup, ordered on Sunday, they shipped out today at 11:52, attempted delivery today but no one was at home |
| 20:53.20 | George | Cope: imho, very very good service |
| 20:54.25 | Cope | We've moved house! |
| 20:54.27 | Cope | almost |
| 20:54.36 | Cope | 90% done |
| 20:54.50 | George | Cope: heh |
| 20:54.54 | Cope | not sorted out adsl at new place yet |
| 20:54.59 | George | Cope: WHAT? |
| 20:55.15 | Cope | just popped back to old place (hence I am connected) |
| 20:55.25 | Cope | but this gets unplugged very shortly |
| 20:55.38 | George | very shortly being? |
| 20:55.46 | Cope | oh - this evening |
| 20:55.56 | George | woot. |
| 20:55.58 | Cope | will connect from work, though |
| 20:56.12 | Cope | so - recommendations for adsl providers? |
| 20:56.17 | George | bulldog |
| 20:56.19 | Cope | rhowe: pingaling! |
| 20:56.49 | BobtheAvenger | me: ping |
| 20:56.51 | George | they sometimes go down in the early hours of the morning which can be a bit of a pain though |
| 20:56.51 | rdancer | hi, Cope |
| 20:56.54 | George | (as in, at 3am) |
| 20:56.55 | Cope | Do they do a 'just switch it on' solution, for someone who's got all the kit? |
| 20:57.01 | George | Cope: yes |
| 20:57.09 | Cope | George: going down is bad |
| 20:57.13 | George | yes |
| 20:57.23 | Cope | demon has never gone down... |
| 20:57.24 | George | but it's only very occassionally |
| 20:57.32 | George | well, you get what you pay for |
| 20:57.34 | George | bulldog is cheap |
| 20:57.35 | George | very cheap. |
| 20:58.15 | Cope | but i owe them $$$ and feel like a change, plus they take ages to sort stuff out, and last time I ended up paying double, and chasing their accounts team |
| 20:58.19 | George | Cope: go to adslguide.org.uk |
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| 20:59.33 | Cope | George: will look on thursday |
| 20:59.36 | George | ok |
| 20:59.38 | Cope | hi bruce |
| 20:59.47 | George | Cope: it's very very very very good |
| 21:00.27 | Cope | George: excellent |
| 21:00.39 | George | Cope: adslguide, that is |
| 21:00.45 | Cope | Do bulldog have a phone number? is it available now? |
| 21:00.50 | George | Cope: no idea |
| 21:00.55 | George | Cope: their customer service is shit |
| 21:02.05 | Cope | OK |
| 21:02.25 | Cope | Right, unplugging now... bye-bye uptime. |
| 21:02.36 | George | cya |
| 21:02.40 | Cope | See you on thursday |
| 21:02.41 | George | what's your uptime? |
| 21:02.56 | George | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:02.57 | George | :) |
| 21:03.16 | Cope | 139 days |
| 21:03.19 | Cope | nothing special |
| 21:03.20 | George | bastard |
| 21:03.30 | George | my server hit 299 till my brother nicked the power supply |
| 21:03.42 | George | selfish git |
| 21:03.43 | George | :) |
| 21:03.52 | Cope | see you all later; |
| 21:03.57 | George | I was at akademy, so he nicked my power cable |
| 21:04.07 | Cope | rdancer: Sorry didn't see you! Hi and bye! |
| 21:04.19 | George | flibble |
| 21:04.20 | George | cya Cope |
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| 22:50.40 | pie | 'lo peeps |
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