| 00:03.37 | Leeds | which gives me time to download a couple of unofficial 'current' install CDs overnight :-) |
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| 00:05.09 | Leeds | g'night all |
| 00:05.13 | JAV | bye Leeds |
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| 07:43.54 | Cope | ;io |
| 07:53.30 | Leeds | !load |
| 08:05.08 | Leeds | well, I have expense approval for both FOSDEM and LinuxWorld |
| 08:31.24 | Cope | woo |
| 08:31.53 | Cope | i have yet to complete an expense claim for a trip to liverpool, last year. |
| 08:32.01 | Cope | because I am rubbish at paperwork |
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| 08:44.19 | morsing | morning |
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| 08:48.11 | morsing | morning mikejw |
| 08:54.54 | mikejw | hey buddy =] |
| 08:56.49 | Leeds | our expense stuff isn't too bad - and I tend to be quite urgent about it because it's mostly international trips with quite a lot of money involved |
| 08:56.57 | Leeds | morning mikejw and morsing |
| 09:01.02 | mikejw | Leeds: morning |
| 09:01.42 | mikejw | =] |
| 09:02.27 | Leeds | woo, we made slashdot front page, sort of... |
| 09:04.16 | mikejw | Leeds: who's we? |
| 09:05.44 | Leeds | mikejw: solaris companion CD team |
| 09:06.12 | mikejw | cool :) |
| 09:06.34 | morsing | Annoying colleagues! |
| 09:07.35 | mikejw | :S |
| 09:10.50 | Leeds | argh, now there are at least two people hammering in my building! |
| 09:13.14 | Cope | hmm, machine with 1028 days uptime needs to be brought down :( |
| 09:17.52 | mikejw | I need an ADLS modem with an ethernet interface =[ |
| 09:17.57 | mikejw | *ADSL |
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| 09:24.25 | Leeds | morning [Jango] |
| 09:25.59 | [Jango] | moorning |
| 09:26.05 | [Jango] | how's things? |
| 09:26.14 | Leeds | not bad at all |
| 09:30.14 | Leeds | you? |
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| 09:34.53 | [Jango] | yea, fine thx |
| 09:34.58 | [Jango] | gonna do some documentation today i think |
| 09:35.53 | {[l33tn4m3]} | groovy baby |
| 09:36.27 | Leeds | right, that's enough work for now... |
| 09:36.36 | [Jango] | just investigating tmda at teh moment thoug |
| 09:36.38 | [Jango] | h |
| 09:36.48 | Leeds | tmda? tdma? |
| 09:36.52 | [Jango] | tmda |
| 09:36.56 | {[l33tn4m3]} | tmda |
| 09:36.58 | [Jango] | tagged mail delivery agent |
| 09:37.02 | Leeds | ah! |
| 09:37.07 | {[l33tn4m3]} | ibot tmda |
| 09:37.13 | [Jango] | not time division multi-access (?) |
| 09:37.18 | Leeds | right :-) |
| 09:37.22 | [Jango] | or is it multiple |
| 09:37.29 | Leeds | multiple, I thought |
| 09:37.31 | [Jango] | same difference :D |
| 09:37.42 | Leeds | anyway, I'm going off-air for a while to reinstall my server... |
| 09:37.55 | Leeds | I'll be back :-) |
| 09:37.59 | [Jango] | ciao |
| 09:58.29 | wethrin | Eyup |
| 09:58.57 | {[l33tn4m3]} | hello wethrin |
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| 09:59.40 | wethrin | wb Leeds |
| 10:01.01 | Leeds | well, that was annoying |
| 10:01.22 | Leeds | a) the hammering has now stopped, but it was really getting to me... |
| 10:01.30 | wethrin | ah |
| 10:01.42 | Leeds | b) and more importantly - for some reason, the machine seems to have decided that booting from CD is below it |
| 10:01.52 | wethrin | hm |
| 10:02.31 | Leeds | it just comes up with "press any key to reboot" - tried with two drives and two CDs |
| 10:04.47 | Leeds | which sort of skuppers the whole 'reinstall the server' plan |
| 10:07.42 | wethrin | Oops |
| 10:10.59 | Leeds | and fucking ups! |
| 10:11.50 | wethrin | UPS the delivery muppets? |
| 10:13.08 | Leeds | yes |
| 10:13.14 | wethrin | Ahh |
| 10:13.24 | Leeds | I don't particularly oject to paying $45 online for a nice, big, good quality poster/print |
| 10:13.49 | Leeds | I don't particularly object to paying $25 shipping - it's very well packaged, and was delivered quickly |
| 10:13.53 | wethrin | Yes... |
| 10:14.03 | Leeds | I do object to paying ?8.something VAT on that |
| 10:14.20 | Leeds | and I really really object to paying ?11 to UPS for the privilege of them paying the VAT for me |
| 10:14.24 | wethrin | Hrm |
| 10:14.25 | wethrin | Yes |
| 10:14.38 | Leeds | I paid $25 to have it delivered... and it cost me over $35 more at this end... |
| 10:14.44 | Leeds | I'm going to complain to the sender |
| 10:15.08 | Leeds | oh, and the fact that the bloke had no change at all was also annoying |
| 10:15.28 | wethrin | Yeah |
| 10:16.18 | Leeds | see, what I need now is a confirmation that I should be going to LinuxWorld - that would put me back in a good mood :-) |
| 10:17.05 | Leeds | and... they're hammering again |
| 10:17.15 | wethrin | yes :) |
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| 10:19.47 | wethrin | morning SlayerXP |
| 10:19.54 | SlayerXP | morning |
| 10:19.58 | Leeds | {[l33tn4m3]}: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/534764.html - the system works |
| 10:39.41 | SlayerXP | nice |
| 10:39.47 | SlayerXP | chap is #debian thinks he's been hacked |
| 10:39.54 | SlayerXP | he keeps seeing this in his log: |
| 10:39.55 | SlayerXP | <Annotea> Jan 30 19:17:01 zapas CRON[21331]: (pam_unix) session opened for user root by (uid=0) |
| 10:41.31 | wethrin | SOMEONE HAS H4XX0R3D HIS CROND! |
| 10:42.37 | [Jango] | lol |
| 10:42.44 | rhowe | 10:41 <@Shadur> Am I going mad, or did the latest sid tetex update just try to delete /usr/local ? |
| 10:42.50 | [Jango] | did he ever think of checking crontab -e |
| 10:42.53 | rhowe | <@Shadur> dpkg: warning - unable to delete old file `/usr/local': Directory not empty |
| 10:44.23 | Leeds | hmmm... /me considers train back on Sunday |
| 10:44.31 | Leeds | do people have thoughts on that issue? |
| 10:44.53 | SlayerXP | good old Engineeriong Works day |
| 10:44.55 | wethrin | I'm taking the second-last train |
| 10:45.09 | wethrin | so I still have enough time to get the last GNER up north |
| 10:45.16 | Leeds | wethrin: I'm seeing a 1756 followed by a 2025 |
| 10:45.24 | wethrin | Yes. 1756 I'd take |
| 10:45.34 | SlayerXP | expect to be crammed into a coach and forced to sit next to an old women wearing Eau de Urine |
| 10:45.35 | wethrin | Arriving about 1930 in Waterloo |
| 10:45.41 | wethrin | 2100 is the last Kings X train |
| 10:45.43 | Leeds | right |
| 10:45.53 | Leeds | I'm not so worried at this end :-) |
| 10:46.06 | Leeds | so, ?120 for the train... |
| 10:46.06 | wethrin | Yes :) |
| 10:46.10 | wethrin | Ish |
| 10:46.23 | Leeds | 150 EUR for the hotel... |
| 10:46.37 | wethrin | Posh git |
| 10:46.38 | wethrin | :-P |
| 10:48.13 | Leeds | good, that fits in my budget (?130 for travel, including a tram/bus card at the other end) and ?150 for hotel |
| 10:48.25 | Leeds | then I've got ?100 for food :-) |
| 10:48.35 | wethrin | Beer on you! |
| 10:48.43 | Leeds | they're picky... |
| 10:48.49 | wethrin | Pff |
| 10:49.52 | Leeds | and I think I'm looking at the 1442 out |
| 10:50.13 | Leeds | any earlier is just cutting it fine |
| 10:50.44 | wethrin | bah |
| 10:50.50 | wethrin | I'm taking 1043 |
| 10:51.14 | Leeds | hey, if the NHS want to pay someone to run unfeasibly big magnets over my body, I'm gonna let them do it :-) |
| 10:51.21 | wethrin | :) |
| 10:51.43 | Leeds | this being a contracted-out scan... ironically, to a company from Leeds |
| 10:52.53 | Leeds | anyway, I was getting worried that the price might have risen above my budget, which could have resulted in some juggling |
| 10:53.36 | wethrin | Ah |
| 10:53.43 | wethrin | You juggle to earn pocket money? |
| 10:54.15 | Leeds | I have done in the past |
| 10:54.43 | wethrin | :) |
| 10:54.45 | Leeds | one of the many weird things which happened to me while I was living in Israel and which I couldn't imagine happening in 'normal life' |
| 10:55.22 | Leeds | okay, it wasn't technically for pocket money - it was for expenses :-) |
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| 10:59.45 | Leeds | ah well, time to go to work and escape the hammering... |
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| 11:45.17 | Leeds | right, FOSDEM booked |
| 12:40.45 | wethrin | w00t |
| 12:47.31 | morsing | What w00t? |
| 12:48.00 | wethrin | I've sent off the hostel booking request |
| 12:48.17 | morsing | Good. I haven't had time to book train seat yet |
| 12:49.23 | wethrin | You can do it online. I need to go to the station and see if there's something cheaper than getting two lots of tickets |
| 12:51.29 | Leeds | hmmm... I have approval for 800 quid for flights to and from Boston (and for other travel during the trip, I suppose) - that's quite a lot |
| 12:52.01 | Cope | :) |
| 12:53.18 | [Jango] | hmmm, i might have to go to dublin |
| 12:53.44 | wethrin | Leeds: So you can spend more on beer! :) |
| 12:54.52 | Leeds | wethrin: possibly... I've also got 300 quid budgeted for food |
| 12:55.23 | wethrin | <homer>Steak?</> |
| 12:56.24 | Leeds | nope... although there *are* kosher places to eat in Boston, I think :-) |
| 12:56.51 | wethrin | There should be in a large city |
| 12:57.14 | Leeds | depends on the city... |
| 12:57.35 | Leeds | I do have a couple of Jewish contacts in the town, as it happens |
| 12:59.56 | [Jango] | Leeds == jewish>? |
| 13:00.04 | Leeds | [Jango]: very much so :-) |
| 13:00.09 | [Jango] | heh |
| 13:00.54 | Leeds | that's funny? |
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| 13:01.13 | [Jango] | nah, just the way you said |
| 13:01.15 | Leeds | you're laughing at my religion? |
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| 13:01.33 | Leeds | :-) |
| 13:01.42 | [Jango] | :P |
| 13:02.53 | Leeds | right, getting to lunchtime |
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| 13:32.27 | wethrin | ARSE. Jacques Brel is full :( |
| 13:33.40 | wethrin | rhowe: You're okay with a different YHA? |
| 13:34.51 | wethrin | I think there's some just around the corner from Jacques Brel, so it's easy to meet other people |
| 13:39.52 | rhowe | # |
| 13:39.53 | rhowe | OK |
| 13:41.07 | rhowe | I booked Friday off work |
| 13:41.20 | rhowe | Is the 1043 the one most people are getting? |
| 13:42.00 | wethrin | Yes |
| 13:42.03 | rhowe | Leeds: Did you see the story about the last remaining Jew in Afghanistan, btw? :) |
| 13:42.20 | wethrin | rhowe: For 16EUR/night, it might be possible to get a 4-bed room, rather than a $stupid_number of beds |
| 13:42.23 | wethrin | Worth it? |
| 13:42.38 | wethrin | (morsing says yes) |
| 13:42.40 | rhowe | *shrug* as long as it's not exactly expensive |
| 13:42.47 | wethrin | 16 isn't |
| 13:42.54 | rhowe | Not really, no |
| 13:42.58 | wethrin | And it's close to Jacques Brel |
| 13:43.02 | rhowe | Which is what? |
| 13:43.23 | rhowe | What about coming back to the UK? What train are people getting for that? |
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| 13:44.08 | wethrin | I'm taking the 1727 or so |
| 13:44.14 | wethrin | (as I need to get back up north) |
| 13:44.59 | wethrin | Right. Booking request sent |
| 13:45.39 | rhowe | OK |
| 13:45.49 | rhowe | Who's going - you, morsing and me.. who else? |
| 13:48.17 | Leeds | rhowe: of course |
| 13:48.35 | wethrin | rhowe: Just us |
| 13:48.41 | Leeds | rhowe: I'm going, but on the later train, and staying at the hotel :-) |
| 13:48.52 | wethrin | Jacques Brel is the YHA that everyone else is staying at (hence it being full) |
| 13:52.07 | JAV | afternoon! |
| 13:52.21 | wethrin | So it is. And my program works! |
| 13:52.45 | SlayerXP | 'hello world' in perl? |
| 13:53.17 | wethrin | perl -e 'print "Hello World\n"' ? :) |
| 13:53.29 | [Jango] | impressive |
| 13:54.09 | Cope | in cobol? |
| 13:55.18 | wethrin | No. Just a C program |
| 13:55.50 | JAV | cobol --> *flood* |
| 13:59.13 | Cope | ldy #0 |
| 13:59.13 | Cope | beq in |
| 13:59.13 | Cope | loop: |
| 13:59.13 | Cope | jsr $ffd2 |
| 13:59.13 | Cope | iny |
| 13:59.16 | Cope | in: |
| 13:59.18 | Cope | lda hello,y |
| 13:59.21 | Cope | bne loop |
| 13:59.23 | Cope | rts |
| 13:59.26 | Cope | hello: .tx "Hello World!" |
| 13:59.28 | Cope | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:59.33 | Cope | as the most interesting hello world he has kicking around. |
| 13:59.42 | JAV | asm? |
| 13:59.45 | Cope | 6502 |
| 13:59.54 | Cope | which is the only asm I know anything about |
| 14:00.19 | wethrin | Hm. Well, my program to do linear regression works |
| 14:00.29 | JAV | I learnt to do funny things on asm x86 |
| 14:01.39 | wethrin | Yes |
| 14:01.44 | wethrin | There's always time for curry |
| 14:02.16 | wethrin | And now it's time for me to play with nasty chemicals and furnaces |
| 14:02.18 | wethrin | Toodle-pip |
| 14:03.51 | Cope | ibot lart wethrin |
| 14:17.44 | Leeds | well, that seems to be booked... |
| 14:18.09 | Leeds | so that's Boston middle of the month, Brussels end of the month, and Israel for half of next month :-) |
| 14:18.32 | SlayerXP | Leeds: sign up to ballofdirt.com |
| 14:19.55 | Leeds | SlayerXP: because I'm not capable of running my own online gallery? or is there more to it than that? |
| 14:20.21 | SlayerXP | Leeds: ballofdort tracks your mileage and produces neat maps of where you've been |
| 14:20.28 | SlayerXP | dirt |
| 14:20.58 | Leeds | oh, okay, that is cool :-) |
| 14:44.45 | Cope | aha! |
| 14:50.04 | George | I hope RAID-5 is good |
| 14:50.29 | SlayerXP | at what> |
| 14:50.30 | SlayerXP | ? |
| 14:50.53 | SlayerXP | raid5 is really bad at keeping mirrored copies of your data, for example |
| 14:51.51 | {[l33tn4m3]} | its not that good at chess either |
| 15:08.34 | highbury | that's why its called raid5 rather than raid1 |
| 15:09.23 | highbury | then again I want data integrity rather than bad data duplicate on both disks |
| 15:09.36 | Leeds | highbury: we finished with it yesterday :-) |
| 15:10.02 | highbury | finished what leeds? |
| 15:10.58 | highbury | looks like I got an 2Mb downlink just in time to download Solaris 10 from Sun at 30Kb :-/ |
| 15:11.38 | SlayerXP | "Mixing Debian and Ubuntu Packages For Beginners" |
| 15:11.40 | highbury | maybe showmbody should show Sun Bittorrent |
| 15:12.33 | Leeds | highbury: Solaris 10 |
| 15:12.58 | Leeds | well, we finished with it last week - it took them a couple of days to put it on the website |
| 15:14.29 | [Jango] | ew solaris |
| 15:15.33 | Leeds | Jang0: watch it! |
| 15:15.45 | Leeds | first you diss my religion, now my work! :-) |
| 15:16.41 | [Jango] | haha |
| 15:16.49 | SlayerXP | solaris 10, with added bagel power |
| 15:16.56 | SlayerXP | oy gevich! |
| 15:18.59 | SlayerXP | (did I spell that right?) |
| 15:19.05 | Leeds | oy gevalt more likely |
| 15:19.09 | SlayerXP | gevalt |
| 15:19.10 | SlayerXP | that's it |
| 15:19.27 | wethrin | Why did Cope lart me? |
| 15:19.45 | SlayerXP | it's been a while since I did Yiddish For Dummies |
| 15:19.49 | Leeds | Jang0: but we don't tell bsd users to go away, and now Solaris is (okay, will be) open source, surely it qualifies? |
| 15:21.11 | Leeds | SlayerXP: I never did - unlike for many Ashkenazi Jews, Yiddish was never really part of my life growing up... |
| 15:22.18 | SlayerXP | http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/blockedme.php |
| 15:22.25 | SlayerXP | work safe, needs flash and sound |
| 15:29.33 | Cope | quite amusing |
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| 16:01.09 | wethrin | Oi Leeds |
| 16:02.10 | Leeds | wethrin: ? |
| 16:02.26 | wethrin | Any chance of getting a username/password on the Masterswitch? :) |
| 16:02.44 | Leeds | possibly... ask admin |
| 16:02.53 | Leeds | as in - I don't know... |
| 16:03.00 | wethrin | Bah :) |
| 16:04.14 | SlayerXP | the password is judo44 |
| 16:05.38 | wethrin | Thanks SlayerXP |
| 16:05.47 | wethrin | Leeds: What did you buy now? |
| 16:06.03 | Leeds | wethrin: Boston, Brussels and Ben Gurion (Tel Aviv) |
| 16:06.38 | wethrin | You're paid too much |
| 16:06.48 | wethrin | Can I have a G5, please? :) |
| 16:07.06 | Leeds | no... and Boston and Brussels are being paid for by work anyway :-) |
| 16:07.20 | wethrin | Pff |
| 16:09.13 | SlayerXP | how do mexicans keep warm? |
| 16:09.21 | wethrin | jumping beans |
| 16:09.26 | SlayerXP | they use chickens fajitas |
| 16:09.43 | wethrin | *groan* |
| 16:10.20 | Leeds | bah |
| 17:06.12 | Leeds | http://opensource.org/pressreleases/expansion.php |
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| 17:14.02 | Leeds | wethrin_: we're back |
| 17:15.45 | wethrin_ | Leeds: Yes. Was it you or Mailbox who wibbled? |
| 17:18.07 | [Jango] | wibbled.... haven't heard that word in a long time |
| 17:19.18 | Leeds | mailbox wibbled - more precisely, their power supply wibbled |
| 17:19.39 | wethrin | Ahh |
| 17:19.41 | Leeds | [Jango]: we regularly wibble around here... it fills the time :-) |
| 17:29.13 | [Jango] | heh |
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| 18:16.41 | axelS | hi ho |
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| 20:12.53 | BobtheAvenger | hey all |
| 20:15.23 | Leeds | evening |
| 20:15.38 | BobtheAvenger | how are you Leeds? |
| 20:15.48 | Leeds | pretty good |
| 20:15.56 | BobtheAvenger | good good |
| 20:16.13 | Leeds | got a busy few weeks coming, in a good way :-) |
| 20:16.21 | Leeds | how's you debian install going? |
| 20:17.00 | BobtheAvenger | i got course work on my machine so i'm buying a test one which i'll put debian on |
| 20:17.51 | Leeds | bah... |
| 20:18.05 | BobtheAvenger | dont talk sheep at me |
| 20:19.04 | BobtheAvenger | i'm dead if i loose my course work |
| 20:20.45 | Leeds | yeah yeah |
| 20:21.09 | Leeds | meanwhile, you're tainting your soul |
| 20:21.38 | BobtheAvenger | in 1 subject; if i dont hand it in they'll throw me off the course because i'll fail, even if i get 100 in the main exam |
| 20:22.03 | Leeds | and why do you need windows to do the work? |
| 20:22.53 | BobtheAvenger | its more that i dont have time to rewrite it if the install goes screwy |
| 20:23.40 | BobtheAvenger | are there 2 'e's in screwy? |
| 20:23.59 | Leeds | no |
| 20:24.04 | BobtheAvenger | ok good |
| 20:24.06 | Leeds | I don't think so, anyway |
| 20:24.34 | BobtheAvenger | ok |
| 20:24.53 | BobtheAvenger | this is what i'm up agains, i need a spellchecker |
| 20:25.56 | BobtheAvenger | does irc have a spell checker? |
| 20:26.49 | Leeds | your irc client may do... irc is a network (and a protocol) |
| 20:27.01 | BobtheAvenger | ok |
| 20:27.35 | BobtheAvenger | i wrote a program that worked"! |
| 20:28.39 | Leeds | wahey |
| 20:29.18 | BobtheAvenger | that doesn't happen often |
| 20:32.43 | BobtheAvenger | and it works |
| 20:36.33 | Leeds | oh, and I got some more good travel news this evening :-) |
| 20:38.45 | BobtheAvenger | lets here? |
| 20:38.48 | BobtheAvenger | *hear |
| 20:39.18 | Leeds | well... as of last week, I'm going to Israel for a couple of weeks in March |
| 20:39.32 | BobtheAvenger | well done |
| 20:40.21 | BobtheAvenger | good news |
| 20:40.30 | Leeds | as of this morning, I have work approval to expense FOSDEM (as expected) and LinuxWorld (as unexpected) - that's a weekend in Brussels drinking at the end of the month, and a few days in Boston middle of the month |
| 20:41.02 | BobtheAvenger | cool |
| 20:41.26 | Leeds | and this evening, I've been told that one of my favourite musicians is doing a concert (actually 2) in Israel during the time I'm there |
| 20:41.44 | BobtheAvenger | even better |
| 20:41.59 | Leeds | she's Israeli, has only performed in the UK twice (I went both times, and went backstage the second time) and I even went to Paris for a weekend a while back to go to a concert |
| 20:42.13 | BobtheAvenger | wow |
| 20:43.05 | BobtheAvenger | what her name? |
| 20:43.21 | Leeds | Achinoam Nini - performs as Noa outside Israel |
| 20:43.31 | BobtheAvenger | ok |
| 20:43.43 | Leeds | www.noasmusic.com :-) |
| 20:52.00 | BobtheAvenger | lucky you |
| 20:54.43 | Leeds | indeed |
| 20:55.15 | Leeds | oh, and the trip to the US? Coming back premium economy as there were no economy seats available for days afterwards :-) |
| 20:55.30 | BobtheAvenger | heh |
| 20:56.05 | BobtheAvenger | u'll just have to suffer :-) |
| 20:56.31 | BobtheAvenger | *you'll |
| 20:57.04 | Leeds | and I've got enough frequent flyer miles that I might blow 10k on upgrading myself to premium on the way out... maybe |
| 20:57.28 | BobtheAvenger | heh |
| 20:57.34 | Leeds | or... wow... just thought... I could try upgrading myself to first on the way back! |
| 20:57.43 | Leeds | hmmm.... |
| 20:57.55 | BobtheAvenger | yep |
| 20:58.12 | Leeds | that would cost 20k, and it's an overnight flight... maybe not worth it |
| 20:58.34 | BobtheAvenger | i've never seen a plane reverse into anything |
| 21:00.07 | Leeds | particularly since after this trip, without spending miles, I'll have enough for either a first class return to the US, or premium anywhere but sydney |
| 21:00.24 | BobtheAvenger | not bad |
| 21:01.03 | Leeds | sydney is a lot more expensive than anywhere else :-( but I have been there, and I could go to tokyo with this! |
| 21:01.15 | BobtheAvenger | yep |
| 21:01.28 | Leeds | mmmm.... tokyo... |
| 21:01.38 | BobtheAvenger | but pilot fly for free |
| 21:01.42 | Leeds | heh |
| 21:01.57 | Leeds | are you calling me a butt pilot? |
| 21:02.09 | BobtheAvenger | no |
| 21:02.37 | BobtheAvenger | if i can get together the money to train i'll be a pilot |
| 21:02.51 | Leeds | ah |
| 21:03.18 | BobtheAvenger | its so expencive i might join the RAF |
| 21:03.43 | BobtheAvenger | the RAF is free |
| 21:04.27 | Leeds | I assume you have to sign up for a certain period though - and I'd think the testing and other requirements would be pretty steep to fly |
| 21:04.56 | BobtheAvenger | i can pass the stuff now apart from the formal qualifications |
| 21:05.07 | Leeds | ? |
| 21:05.26 | BobtheAvenger | all the fitness and eyesight stuff |
| 21:05.38 | Leeds | ah, right |
| 21:06.10 | Leeds | to be honest, going into the forces has never appealed to me in the slightest, with the possible execption of the Israeli army |
| 21:06.44 | BobtheAvenger | beats other things this aptitude test gave me |
| 21:07.00 | Leeds | oh, tests... |
| 21:07.23 | BobtheAvenger | my results were better than others |
| 21:07.36 | BobtheAvenger | my mate got embalmer as his best suited job |
| 21:08.02 | Leeds | heh |
| 21:08.17 | BobtheAvenger | and hes way smarter than me |
| 21:08.30 | Leeds | thing is, the forces are large enough that a very significant portion of *all* jobs could be done within them |
| 21:08.58 | BobtheAvenger | the armed forces? |
| 21:09.14 | Leeds | e.g. technical, medical, clerical, driving, cooking, cleaning, and so on |
| 21:09.18 | Leeds | yes, the armed forces |
| 21:09.34 | BobtheAvenger | this was a general test |
| 21:10.22 | BobtheAvenger | i got aeronautical engineer aswell heh |
| 21:10.47 | BobtheAvenger | would you trust a plane that i designed? |
| 21:10.53 | Leeds | had a mate at uni doing that... |
| 21:11.02 | Leeds | must find out how he was |
| 21:11.04 | Leeds | is |
| 21:11.09 | BobtheAvenger | cool |
| 21:11.38 | BobtheAvenger | anyway i know the job i really want and it wernt on the test |
| 21:12.03 | Leeds | which is? |
| 21:12.15 | BobtheAvenger | astronaut :D |
| 21:12.35 | Leeds | hah |
| 21:12.43 | Leeds | my mate got turned down by nasa |
| 21:12.48 | BobtheAvenger | why you laughing? |
| 21:13.21 | BobtheAvenger | ok |
| 21:13.22 | BobtheAvenger | why? |
| 21:13.24 | Leeds | well, it's very very very unlikely you'll ever get anywhere near it, and to be honest, it sounds like a typical kid's view of the perfect job |
| 21:13.51 | BobtheAvenger | yer but i'm working hard to get there |
| 21:13.59 | Leeds | dunno why they turned him down |
| 21:14.09 | Leeds | that was to do a year there as part of his course... |
| 21:14.25 | BobtheAvenger | ok |
| 21:14.45 | BobtheAvenger | i know how to get there |
| 21:15.03 | Leeds | plane to orlando, bus to kennedy? |
| 21:15.20 | BobtheAvenger | no i mean qualification wise |
| 21:15.38 | Leeds | but it's not really about qualifications |
| 21:16.13 | BobtheAvenger | i might fail a phyc on report |
| 21:16.16 | Leeds | there may be, say, a million people worldwide with the qualifications... but only 10 or 15 get to actually do it |
| 21:16.43 | BobtheAvenger | 10 evey 2 years and only 2000 actually apply |
| 21:17.12 | Leeds | only |
| 21:17.22 | BobtheAvenger | yer only |
| 21:17.25 | Leeds | how many british astronauts have there ever been? |
| 21:17.35 | BobtheAvenger | 1 |
| 21:17.48 | Leeds | no, at least 2, AFAIK |
| 21:18.09 | BobtheAvenger | anyway it only if have atleast part american citizenship |
| 21:18.15 | Leeds | helen sharman and Michael Foale |
| 21:18.39 | Leeds | I really doubt the only Israeli astronaut had US citizenship... do you? |
| 21:19.09 | BobtheAvenger | that what they say one of the requirements is# |
| 21:20.05 | Leeds | that, or go through your national space agency |
| 21:20.18 | BobtheAvenger | yer i can do that to |
| 21:20.19 | Leeds | ~emulate stewie |
| 21:20.20 | ibot | Ha ha. Oh, this is so good it just HAS to be fattening. |
| 21:20.26 | Leeds | lol |
| 21:20.39 | BobtheAvenger | ~emulate Leeds |
| 21:21.28 | BobtheAvenger | ~emulate BobtheAvenger |
| 21:22.15 | BobtheAvenger | stupid maths practice course work |
| 21:22.54 | Leeds | 1+1=? |
| 21:23.07 | BobtheAvenger | 10 £$£^$^ pages in 2days |
| 21:23.49 | BobtheAvenger | i'm not even sure what is was on originally |
| 21:24.15 | BobtheAvenger | stupid openendedness |
| 21:24.56 | BobtheAvenger | 2 |
| 21:25.08 | BobtheAvenger | 2 |
| 21:25.24 | BobtheAvenger | arg |
| 21:26.20 | Leeds | ibot kill BobtheAvenger |
| 21:26.23 | ibot | ACTION shoots a super-inverse positrino gun at BobtheAvenger |
| 21:26.42 | BobtheAvenger | ibot kill all |
| 21:26.44 | ibot | ACTION shoots a magneto-ionized fluxelectron gun at all |
| 21:26.59 | Leeds | ibot lart GCSEs for being too easy |
| 21:27.37 | BobtheAvenger | the problem with GCSEs is that you learn mor stuff in less detail |
| 21:28.11 | BobtheAvenger | ibt kill GCSEs |
| 21:28.20 | BobtheAvenger | ibot kill GCSEs |
| 21:28.22 | ibot | ACTION shoots a proton gun at GCSEs |
| 21:28.33 | Leeds | ibot fishslap GCSEs |
| 21:28.35 | ibot | ACTION slaps GCSEs up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 21:28.51 | BobtheAvenger | ibot kill course work |
| 21:28.53 | ibot | ACTION shoots a hyper-charged anti-proton gun at course work |
| 21:29.17 | BobtheAvenger | ibot kill school |
| 21:29.20 | ibot | ACTION shoots a charged pseudograviton gun at school |
| 21:29.29 | BobtheAvenger | this is fun |
| 21:29.53 | Leeds | don't do it too much when there are people around - it gets annoying if there are conversations happening |
| 21:30.05 | BobtheAvenger | ok |
| 21:30.14 | Leeds | and you can talk to ibot directly if you need to |
| 21:30.26 | BobtheAvenger | notice the lack of pings |
| 21:30.31 | Leeds | ibot change 150 eur to gbp |
| 21:30.39 | Leeds | he does tricks :-) |
| 21:30.53 | BobtheAvenger | does he play catch? |
| 21:30.59 | Leeds | ibot catch |
| 21:31.21 | Leeds | guess not :-) |
| 21:31.26 | BobtheAvenger | wow that failed |
| 21:31.34 | BobtheAvenger | my sisters better |
| 21:31.52 | BobtheAvenger | she does more tricks |
| 21:31.54 | Leeds | ibot catch is <emote>runs and jumps just in time to catch whatever it is which was thrown |
| 21:31.55 | ibot | Leeds: okay |
| 21:31.59 | Leeds | ibot catch |
| 21:32.00 | ibot | from memory, catch is <emote>runs and jumps just in time to catch whatever it is which was thrown |
| 21:32.07 | Leeds | argh |
| 21:32.12 | BobtheAvenger | heh |
| 21:32.28 | Leeds | ibot no catch is <action>runs and jumps just in time to catch whatever it is which was thrown |
| 21:32.29 | ibot | okay, Leeds |
| 21:32.30 | BobtheAvenger | my sister learns quicker too |
| 21:32.32 | Leeds | ibot catch |
| 21:32.33 | ibot | ACTION runs and jumps just in time to catch whatever it is which was thrown |
| 21:32.42 | Leeds | there we go :-) |
| 21:33.45 | BobtheAvenger | ibot have a temper tantrum |
| 21:33.57 | Leeds | ibot cry |
| 21:33.58 | ibot | ACTION cries and sobs until he nearly drownds in his own tears |
| 21:34.19 | BobtheAvenger | my sisters better she can do violence at the same time |
| 21:34.37 | Leeds | ibot galaxyslap BobtheAvenger |
| 21:34.46 | BobtheAvenger | ibot flail |
| 21:34.51 | Leeds | ibot andromedaslap BobtheAvenger |
| 21:34.53 | ibot | ACTION beats BobtheAvenger into protomatter with the andromeda galaxy |
| 21:35.11 | BobtheAvenger | ibot flail |
| 21:35.31 | Leeds | so how old is your sister? younger than you? |
| 21:35.38 | BobtheAvenger | yes |
| 21:35.51 | Leeds | I got two younger sisters |
| 21:36.02 | BobtheAvenger | how much younger? |
| 21:36.13 | Leeds | 2.5 years, and 6 years |
| 21:36.19 | BobtheAvenger | ok |
| 21:36.22 | BobtheAvenger | mines 5 |
| 21:36.28 | BobtheAvenger | years younger |
| 21:36.29 | Leeds | ah, so much younger |
| 21:36.31 | Leeds | oh |
| 21:36.59 | BobtheAvenger | all the fun of trying to get her into a secondary school |
| 21:37.46 | BobtheAvenger | u'd think it'd get easier |
| 21:38.00 | BobtheAvenger | *you'd |
| 21:38.09 | Leeds | that I wouldn't know... |
| 21:38.35 | BobtheAvenger | the think is shes bright but she wont pull her finger out |
| 21:38.46 | BobtheAvenger | *thing |
| 21:39.11 | Leeds | my sister wasn't a school person - she's bright, but not academic... I'm bright, but lazy |
| 21:39.39 | BobtheAvenger | if she tries shes smarter than i was then |
| 21:40.23 | BobtheAvenger | unfortunately shes like me |
| 21:40.29 | Leeds | a prat? |
| 21:40.41 | BobtheAvenger | no |
| 21:43.43 | Leeds | ? |
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| 21:44.12 | BobtheAvenger | hey |
| 21:44.14 | Leeds | evening mikejw |
| 21:44.16 | mikejw | yo guys |
| 21:44.20 | mikejw | :D |
| 21:44.29 | BobtheAvenger | sup |
| 21:44.50 | mikejw | my OpenBSD box is refusing to act as a gateway :( |
| 21:45.00 | BobtheAvenger | heh |
| 21:45.11 | Leeds | good, that's secure :-) |
| 21:45.14 | mikejw | lol |
| 21:45.28 | mikejw | actually box is probably the wrong term |
| 21:45.37 | Leeds | shere? |
| 21:45.41 | Leeds | sphere |
| 21:45.56 | mikejw | well.. the case is almost falling off.. |
| 21:46.07 | BobtheAvenger | heh |
| 21:46.14 | BobtheAvenger | i dented mine |
| 21:46.23 | mikejw | it seems robust enough =] |
| 21:47.13 | BobtheAvenger | i've stoped hitting my screen and hits case insead |
| 21:47.23 | BobtheAvenger | *hit |
| 21:48.30 | BobtheAvenger | did you know T=5n+7g |
| 21:49.22 | BobtheAvenger | i spent 10pages proving that |
| 21:49.41 | mikejw | :)# |
| 21:49.45 | mikejw | oops :) |
| 21:50.03 | BobtheAvenger | if i find that its wrong i'll kill something |
| 21:50.37 | BobtheAvenger | 10pages in 2 days |
| 21:51.02 | Leeds | sounds like physics to me, not maths |
| 21:51.06 | BobtheAvenger | ibot kill maths coursework |
| 21:51.08 | ibot | ACTION shoots a ionized fluxmeson gun at maths coursework |
| 21:51.16 | BobtheAvenger | nope its maths |
| 21:52.05 | BobtheAvenger | we gotta explore how the T-total varies compared to the T-number is a number grid |
| 21:52.11 | BobtheAvenger | and its openended |
| 21:53.15 | BobtheAvenger | i'd trade coursework for a big exam anytime |
| 21:54.43 | BobtheAvenger | oh %$£& |
| 21:55.36 | BobtheAvenger | stupid lessons |
| 21:56.07 | BobtheAvenger | well i got to go |
| 21:56.08 | BobtheAvenger | peace |
| 22:22.22 | Leeds | right, that's me done communicating for the day - long chat online with my mum, then 30 minutes on the phone with the sister |
| 22:23.05 | Jang0 | communicating is tough |
| 22:23.10 | Leeds | far too much work |
| 22:23.29 | Jang0 | it's much easier reading code or something |
| 22:23.53 | Leeds | yeah |
| 22:24.22 | Jang0 | why isn't barclaycard.co.uk letting me log on :/ |
| 22:24.36 | Leeds | because you're non-windows-using scum? |
| 22:24.42 | Jang0 | probably |
| 22:24.52 | Jang0 | it normally works though |
| 22:26.00 | Leeds | maybe they're windows-using scum and the site is therefore dead? |
| 22:26.12 | Jang0 | brb |
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| 22:44.53 | BobtheAvenger | hey all |
| 22:49.28 | Leeds | hi |
| 22:51.57 | JAV | hi |
| 22:53.18 | BobtheAvenger | how are you all? |
| 22:53.19 | Jang0 | sup d00d |
| 22:59.19 | Jang0 | what's the best looking terminal? |
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| 23:19.00 | Leeds | argh argh argh argh |
| 23:19.30 | Leeds | argh |
| 23:27.28 | Leeds | ooh, good thought! :-) |
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| 23:27.42 | Leeds | Jang0: you know rathergood.com? |
| 23:29.05 | Leeds | JAV: you know he's done a few tv adverts? |
| 23:29.22 | JAV | no idea |
| 23:29.44 | Jang0 | heh, i'll have a proper look tomorrow |
| 23:29.46 | JAV | we like the moon, is... just perfect! |
| 23:29.47 | JAV | :D |
| 23:30.47 | Leeds | JAV: he did one for switch/maestro in this country, one for a milk 'squash' (flavouring/syrup to add to milk) in this country, and one for a national sandwich chain in the US - which caught me off guard when I was over there on work and saw it on TV :-) |
| 23:33.17 | JAV | people not used to crazy flash animations surely was "surprised" |
| 23:34.01 | Leeds | he is very very good at it |
| 23:34.16 | JAV | http://www.rathergood.com/first_drink/ --> this is new, i think |
| 23:34.25 | JAV | al least for me |
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| 23:36.25 | Leeds | rdancer: do *you* know rathergood.com? |
| 23:36.57 | Leeds | oh, and good evening? |
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| 23:40.14 | Leeds | hi mikejw |
| 23:40.31 | mikejw | hello again =D |
| 23:41.14 | mikejw | Warning ip4_Input: IPCP not open - packet dropped :S |
| 23:41.53 | Leeds | I like the northern kittens... |
| 23:42.08 | mikejw | I'm not sure if my dodgey USB modem is making things harder for me |
| 23:42.40 | Leeds | probably |
| 23:43.22 | mikejw | :( |
| 23:45.15 | rdancer | Leeds: nope, and good evening to you too 8-) |
| 23:46.06 | mikejw | hey rdancer |
| 23:46.15 | rdancer | hi |
| 23:46.42 | rdancer | sounds gooood |
| 23:46.59 | rdancer | pam-pa-da-pa-paaa! |
| 23:47.09 | rdancer | wo-hooo..! |
| 23:47.23 | mikejw | rdancer: what kind of genre is that? |
| 23:47.33 | rdancer | fusion |
| 23:47.45 | rdancer | folkrock+soul |
| 23:47.52 | mikejw | sounds good =] |
| 23:47.55 | rdancer | heh |
| 23:48.20 | mikejw | I play the drums |
| 23:48.24 | rdancer | ``halleluyah! thank you jesus for giving me my car!'' |
| 23:49.25 | rdancer | but they mean it ironically; at least i hope so |
| 23:49.37 | mikejw | :) |