| 00:06.25 | Leeds | busy here tonight... |
| 00:08.28 | rhowe | Hectic |
| 00:11.29 | Leeds | so how's life? |
| 00:13.58 | rhowe | Not too bad |
| 00:14.18 | rhowe | finances took an unexpected beating last month, what with the trip out east, but it'll save in the long run |
| 00:14.33 | rhowe | I can push back the April trip to sometime less expensive |
| 00:14.49 | Leeds | yeah, I ended up with a lot of expensive stuff last month too... |
| 00:14.59 | rhowe | I also bought the wifi kit at long last |
| 00:15.02 | Leeds | good! |
| 00:15.09 | rhowe | Though at the moment, it's at work scanning and cracking WEP keys |
| 00:15.15 | rhowe | Will see what it found in the morning :) |
| 00:15.57 | Leeds | hmm... looking for other people's networks, or testing your own? |
| 00:16.50 | rhowe | Others |
| 00:16.57 | rhowe | Just seeing what's around the officE |
| 00:17.05 | Leeds | we have a pretty open network at work, but it just goes to the internet - people are expected to use VPN if they want to see the company network, like with any other public network |
| 00:17.28 | rhowe | We have no wifi kit in the office, so it's a rare chance to see just what's in SE1 :) |
| 00:18.03 | rhowe | http://www.solwise.co.uk/images/ant-78db-omni.gif |
| 00:18.05 | rhowe | Got one of those |
| 00:18.29 | Leeds | um... wow |
| 00:18.52 | rhowe | 7.8db of gain should do, I think :) |
| 00:19.20 | Leeds | if you say so... |
| 00:19.33 | rhowe | It's got to get through a ceiling |
| 00:19.40 | rhowe | That's about it :) |
| 00:20.20 | Leeds | last time I checked, I had signal standing in the street outside work, and in the street outside my house - that's enough for me |
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| 00:20.59 | rhowe | So long as it covers the garden in the summer, my room, the lounge and possibly the bathroom/toilet, I'm good |
| 00:21.05 | Leeds | in fact, it's probably a little too much for me |
| 00:21.48 | rhowe | It's a bit odd in that it has to have vertical as well as horizontal coverage, but it shouldn't matter, I expect. Will know this weekend, at least |
| 00:22.12 | Leeds | I really only want signal in my flat - anywhere else I'd want signal would be either too far away (park across the road) or through lots of buildings/trees/etc. (gym) |
| 00:23.10 | rhowe | *nod* |
| 00:23.59 | Leeds | it would be nice to get signal in the park :-) a not-too-focussed directional antenna should be up to it, in theory, I think |
| 00:24.00 | rhowe | Well solwise give 400m for 6db, presumably without obstructions (that's 6db gain aerials at each end) |
| 00:24.32 | rhowe | 9db is 800m, so 7.8 I'd assume is probably around 500-550 |
| 00:24.51 | rhowe | Add an obstacle like a wall and I can only assume something like 200-400m |
| 00:25.06 | Leeds | that's still quite a long way |
| 00:25.18 | rhowe | Plus, you're not going to have a 1.5' antennae on a laptop, so it's not going to be 7.8db on each end |
| 00:25.38 | Leeds | wait... you mean that photo wasn't actual size? |
| 00:25.46 | rhowe | heh, no :) |
| 00:25.55 | rhowe | It's at least a foot tall |
| 00:25.55 | Leeds | ah! now I understand :-) |
| 00:26.16 | rhowe | The wire it's made from is about 1.5-2mm thick |
| 00:26.46 | rhowe | The gap between the twists is about 10cm, which curiously is pretty much the wavelength at 2.4GHz :) |
| 00:27.03 | Leeds | good |
| 00:27.18 | Leeds | you couldn't be satisfied with a pringles tin, eh? |
| 00:27.35 | rhowe | Nope :) |
| 00:27.50 | rhowe | I need to drill a hole in the soekris though, which could get fiddly |
| 00:30.50 | rhowe | I also need to get up in 7 hours, so I need to sleep |
| 00:30.56 | rhowe | See you in Brussels if not sooner |
| 00:40.54 | Leeds | yup |
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| 08:17.10 | morsing | mornign |
| 08:17.13 | morsing | morning |
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| 08:44.26 | morsing | hello? |
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| 09:19.13 | Leeds | http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/snowcrystals/photos/photos.htm - amazing close-up photos of snowflakes! |
| 09:31.51 | morsing | morning Leeds |
| 09:32.22 | Leeds | morning |
| 09:39.12 | morsing | I went to Garlic & Shots for Chowie's leaving do on Friday |
| 09:39.49 | Leeds | good? |
| 09:42.02 | morsing | Well, scary people very small and the shots didn't taste of garlic |
| 09:42.36 | Leeds | small scary people? |
| 09:42.36 | morsing | We were only downstairs though, they have an upstairs section for normal people where you can eat as well |
| 09:43.29 | Leeds | so downstairs is for small people but upstairs is full-sized? |
| 09:44.51 | Leeds | :-) |
| 09:45.49 | Leeds | hmm... they've closed the skiing site in Israel due to heavy snow... |
| 10:27.34 | morsing | Are cables normally laid under the floor? |
| 10:27.52 | SlayerXP | depends |
| 10:27.59 | SlayerXP | wireless network cables aren't |
| 10:30.03 | Leeds | SlayerXP: are you sure? |
| 10:30.21 | SlayerXP | yup |
| 10:30.45 | Leeds | hmm... news to me |
| 10:33.43 | Cope | good morning chums |
| 10:34.02 | Leeds | morning Cope |
| 10:47.54 | wethrin | Morning |
| 10:49.41 | highbury | morning folks |
| 10:51.37 | wethrin | Hmm |
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| 10:56.32 | morsing | SlayerXP: What about electrical cables in my house then? |
| 10:57.03 | morsing | Does anyone have experience with Trust UPSs? They're about a fifth of the price of other brands. |
| 10:59.12 | SlayerXP | I buy APC power kit, their warranty and replacement service is second to none |
| 10:59.29 | wethrin | morsing: Wireless electrickery :) |
| 11:00.08 | SlayerXP | bbl |
| 11:00.18 | wethrin | bye |
| 11:00.36 | gregj | what a yawnee day |
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| 11:12.45 | wethrin | hi bruce, gregj |
| 11:28.23 | Cope | hi bruce! |
| 11:37.01 | itsbruce | Hallo |
| 11:53.12 | Leeds | itsbruce: how's life? |
| 11:57.09 | Leeds | ah well, time to go to work... |
| 11:57.11 | itsbruce | Been very busy. Slightly more placid. |
| 11:57.29 | *** mode/#gllug [+o wethrin] by ChanServ |
| 11:57.55 | Leeds | placid is good for a while... anyway, I'm gone... |
| 11:58.04 | *** topic/#gllug by wethrin -> Greater London LUG. Next meeting: TBA, Web site: http://www.gllug.org.uk; Wiki: http://wiki.gllug.org.uk; Channel stats at http://www.jonmasters.org/irc/gllug |
| 11:58.11 | *** mode/#gllug [-o wethrin] by wethrin |
| 11:59.56 | wethrin | I want food |
| 12:00.05 | wethrin | But it's not lunchtime yet |
| 12:02.03 | Cope | i a in the same situation |
| 12:02.04 | Cope | i have some soup, and some sandwiches |
| 12:02.14 | Cope | but if I eat them now, I will get hungry again later |
| 12:02.35 | wethrin | Eat more later! |
| 12:02.42 | Cope | i have no more food! |
| 12:02.47 | Cope | until I get home |
| 12:02.54 | Cope | well, i do have porridge |
| 12:03.06 | wethrin | Curry place? |
| 12:04.31 | morsing | Wethrin: You can have my sandwicg |
| 12:04.34 | morsing | s/g/h |
| 12:04.49 | wethrin | Nah, I'll have an all-day breakfast, probably |
| 12:04.50 | wethrin | Or something else |
| 12:05.44 | morsing | Mmm... breakfast |
| 12:06.04 | wethrin | yeah |
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| 12:11.06 | JAV | hello |
| 12:12.40 | Cope | hola |
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| 12:24.40 | Cope | hi Leeds |
| 12:25.03 | Leeds | hi |
| 13:44.22 | morsing | Hi |
| 13:44.35 | morsing | Noone has posted useless links in a while |
| 13:47.58 | wethrin | www.uselesslink.com |
| 13:47.59 | wethrin | :) |
| 13:49.17 | gregj | uselessbuggingmorsinglink.com |
| 13:49.40 | wethrin | :) |
| 13:49.54 | wethrin | uselesslink.com resolves |
| 13:50.01 | gregj | ;] |
| 13:50.10 | wethrin | Yours doesn't |
| 13:50.10 | wethrin | :-P |
| 13:50.43 | gregj | since noone (yet) wanned to annoy morsing |
| 13:50.44 | gregj | ;] |
| 13:52.09 | wethrin | heh |
| 13:54.31 | morsing | Mmm... |
| 13:55.03 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:55.17 | wethrin | yes.... |
| 13:56.25 | morsing | You can make a log of your terminal session with script(1). |
| 13:57.28 | wethrin | mhm |
| 14:00.35 | morsing | 08:12 -!- Irssi: #ukfreebsd: Total of 1 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 0 |
| 14:01.12 | wethrin | morsing: That's just useless pasting, not useless links |
| 14:08.58 | Cope | http://www.uk-nurseries.com/ |
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| 14:13.37 | morsing | Welcome |
| 14:13.47 | SlayerXP | lo |
| 14:13.59 | Cope | eri1 |
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| 14:22.37 | Leeds | yay: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4245353.stm |
| 14:27.58 | Leeds | my take is very simple - you've got to hope, because the alternative is too terrible |
| 14:29.22 | SlayerXP | either that, or the civilized world constructs a very large wall around the whole lot and let's them get on with it |
| 14:29.28 | SlayerXP | "come out when you can play nicely" |
| 14:36.04 | morsing | Our proxy blocks Google searches for "Crappy Ford Focus"! |
| 14:36.19 | Cope | ibot google for crappy ford focus |
| 14:36.26 | Cope | there you go :-) |
| 14:37.20 | Cope | ibot google for hot unix porn |
| 14:38.05 | SlayerXP | ibot google for hot george porn |
| 14:38.56 | Cope | ibot google for slayerxp naked pics |
| 14:39.05 | Cope | doh |
| 14:39.17 | wethrin | :) |
| 14:39.40 | Cope | ibot google for wethrin smut |
| 14:39.46 | Cope | lol |
| 14:39.56 | wethrin | :-) |
| 14:39.58 | wethrin | See, I'm a clean boy |
| 14:40.10 | Cope | ibot google for naked cope pics |
| 14:40.17 | wethrin | :-) |
| 14:40.18 | Cope | eeek! |
| 14:40.26 | wethrin | Paris Hilton Sex? |
| 14:40.39 | Cope | never been to the paris hilton, so its not me |
| 14:40.47 | Cope | never even been to paris |
| 14:44.32 | SlayerXP | you know, people want to do the oddest things |
| 14:44.41 | wethrin | Like going to Norway? |
| 14:44.51 | SlayerXP | like using subverison to backup data without actually using version control |
| 14:45.44 | wethrin | Using CVS/SVN to do a one-developer-at-a-time lock on files? |
| 14:45.56 | SlayerXP | no |
| 14:46.07 | SlayerXP | <aquarius> I can't import the same directory into a repos twice. I suspect this is deliberate, though: what I want to to is use svn for backups, and just do "svn import <dir> file:///repos" every night, without making <dir> a checked-out working copy. Is this possible? |
| 14:46.28 | wethrin | That looks silly |
| 14:46.47 | wethrin | It's not really a backup to use SVN, though |
| 14:47.04 | wethrin | It's not a problem if you lose your own copy - you just check out again. But what if the SVN server goes titsup? |
| 15:06.40 | Leeds | Paris is nice... |
| 15:07.04 | SlayerXP | umm, no, it isn't |
| 15:07.29 | SlayerXP | well, the buildings are all right, it's just the people and the dogshit that spoils the place |
| 15:08.28 | SlayerXP | ever seen Le Geode in the 19th? |
| 15:08.39 | Leeds | not that I remember |
| 15:09.08 | SlayerXP | http://photos.hinterlands.org/p2210701.html |
| 15:09.47 | SlayerXP | http://photos.hinterlands.org/p2210700.html also |
| 15:09.54 | Leeds | very nice |
| 15:10.01 | SlayerXP | it's an imax cinema |
| 15:10.12 | Leeds | cool |
| 15:11.04 | morsing | Leeds: Are you talking about the Paris in the photos or the City? |
| 15:11.45 | Leeds | morsing: I was talking about the city |
| 15:12.24 | morsing | Ahh... |
| 15:15.55 | Leeds | I wouldn't describe the contents of the pictures as nice |
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| 15:20.04 | morsing | I didn't look |
| 15:21.21 | Leeds | I've seen her on TV |
| 15:21.26 | morsing | At work - not even allowed to :-) |
| 15:21.48 | morsing | She's slightly stupid |
| 15:36.54 | Leeds | I think brainless bimbo would be more accurate |
| 15:38.20 | Leeds | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4245723.stm "The Ministry of Defence spokesman did not confirm what toppings were on the pizza." |
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| 15:44.45 | Leeds | hmm... New Year tomorrow... |
| 15:45.00 | wethrin | Yes |
| 15:46.30 | pdr | mm... pancake day today |
| 15:50.17 | wethrin | yes |
| 15:50.24 | wethrin | I want Thai food |
| 15:50.46 | wethrin | mmm |
| 15:51.03 | Leeds | green veg, green coconut sauce, quorn chunks |
| 15:51.20 | wethrin | Eh |
| 15:51.26 | wethrin | Would've been better with chicken |
| 15:51.35 | Leeds | probably, although I do like quorn |
| 15:52.07 | wethrin | Hm |
| 16:02.52 | morsing | When does 802.16 become available here? |
| 16:03.12 | wethrin | No idea |
| 16:05.18 | pdr | morsing: what is it? and why does it matter where one is when a standard gets approved by the IEEE? |
| 16:08.28 | morsing | http://searchmobilecomputing.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid40_gci929675,00.html |
| 16:08.40 | morsing | It's available in Denmark already |
| 16:08.46 | morsing | On a test basis |
| 16:08.54 | pdr | it's available here too - you can download it at http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/16/pubs/80216-2004.html |
| 16:10.20 | morsing | Download it?!?!?! I doubt that you can "download" it! |
| 16:10.38 | Leeds | morsing: of course you can |
| 16:11.34 | morsing | Of course you can't! |
| 16:12.06 | morsing | ibot download a Ford Focus for me please |
| 16:14.50 | pdr | ? |
| 16:15.19 | Leeds | pdr: morsing seems a little confused as to the difference between a standard and a product implementing that standard |
| 16:15.32 | pdr | ah, i c |
| 16:15.35 | morsing | Okay, BT is actually testing it in some areas as well: |
| 16:15.36 | morsing | http://news.zdnet.co.uk/communications/broadband/0,39020342,39157277,00.htm |
| 16:16.00 | morsing | Leeds: I'm not confused at all. |
| 16:17.23 | Leeds | then why did you say you couldn't download it? |
| 16:18.46 | morsing | How can you download getting BT to implement it? |
| 16:18.50 | morsing | Weird |
| 16:19.05 | pdr | i thought we were talking about the availiablity of 802.16 |
| 16:19.23 | morsing | pdr: Yes- and it's not commonly available yet |
| 16:19.41 | pdr | yes it is; you can download it at the ieee address i gave earlier |
| 16:19.51 | morsing | Weird |
| 16:19.54 | Leeds | morsing: you never asked for hardware implementing the standard - you asked when the standard would be available here, since it is already available in Denmark |
| 16:24.48 | gregj | http://glen.alkohol.ee/sodi/C.gif |
| 16:29.28 | wethrin | http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-13297624,00.html |
| 16:32.26 | Leeds | argh |
| 16:36.12 | wethrin | argh to which? |
| 16:37.01 | Leeds | yours |
| 16:37.33 | pdr | bloody english |
| 16:37.37 | pdr | ;-P |
| 16:38.01 | wethrin | Heh |
| 16:38.04 | wethrin | He was Welsh! |
| 16:38.28 | wethrin | .oO(bloddy Aussies, not knowing the difference between English and Welsh) :) |
| 16:40.26 | Cope | hmmm |
| 16:40.39 | Cope | anyone here know much about oracle, specifically tnsnames.ora? |
| 16:40.55 | Cope | I am experiencing some funny behaviour... |
| 16:41.39 | morsing | Cope: Is it caused by working with Oracle? |
| 16:42.49 | wethrin | I'm hungry |
| 16:42.52 | wethrin | FEED ME |
| 16:43.05 | wethrin | (he says, turning into George) |
| 16:43.17 | Leeds | ibot curry |
| 16:43.18 | ibot | ACTION runs around with a flame shooting out of his ass |
| 16:43.20 | morsing | Mmm... /nick George |
| 16:43.48 | wethrin | :) |
| 16:43.49 | wethrin | ibot Thai |
| 16:43.57 | Leeds | ibot beer |
| 16:43.58 | ibot | methinks beer is ummm, ummm good!, or good for you! |
| 16:44.10 | morsing | ibot swedish meat balls |
| 16:44.24 | morsing | ibot fruit |
| 16:44.24 | ibot | somebody said fruit was an apple, for example |
| 16:44.42 | Leeds | ibot denmark |
| 16:44.43 | ibot | [denmark] the capital of Sweden (or something like that), or they speak dutch there. |
| 16:44.48 | Leeds | rofl |
| 16:44.56 | wethrin | :) |
| 16:45.18 | morsing | Very good :-D |
| 16:45.22 | Cope | Without tnsnames.ora I can tnsping a machine by ip, not by fqdn, and not by sid |
| 16:45.47 | Leeds | ibot holland |
| 16:45.48 | ibot | i guess holland is called the Netherlands by some pedants |
| 16:45.54 | Leeds | ibot netherlands |
| 16:45.55 | ibot | netherlands is probably a small (41526 miles^2) country in northwestern Europe (between Germany, Belgium and the North Sea. It has about 16M citizens, and is a contitutional monarchy. Capital is Amsterdam, government is in The Hague. Other major cities: Rotterdam, Utrecht, Eindhoven, Enschede. |
| 16:45.55 | Cope | with tnsnames.ora in place I can tnsping the machine by fqdn - ie tnsnames.ora is helping with resolving... but not by sid! |
| 16:46.33 | Cope | ibot wales |
| 16:46.35 | Leeds | ibot netherlands is also beer, porn and drugs, oh my! |
| 16:46.36 | ibot | okay, Leeds |
| 16:47.01 | wethrin | I used to have to edit a tnsnames.ora a few years back |
| 16:47.16 | wethrin | OW! |
| 16:47.26 | wethrin | Someone on Gllug says about NetBSD: "Gentoo-alike source packages" |
| 16:47.29 | wethrin | *thwap* |
| 16:48.35 | pdr | wethrin: no, he was english - he was dissapointed that wales beat england on the weekend |
| 16:48.51 | wethrin | Ah well |
| 16:49.02 | pdr | and ibot: a pedant would tell you that holland only makes up 2/3 of the netherlands |
| 16:49.56 | morsing | ibot Denmark is full of drunks as well |
| 16:49.57 | ibot | ...but denmark is already something else... |
| 16:50.13 | pdr | ibot wiki denmark |
| 16:50.19 | morsing | ibot Denmark is also full of drunks |
| 16:50.21 | ibot | morsing: okay |
| 16:50.58 | pdr | ibot copenhagen |
| 16:51.13 | SlayerXP | Europe, an island south-west of Kent |
| 16:51.13 | wethrin | ibot morsing |
| 16:51.28 | pdr | ibot wethrin |
| 16:51.29 | ibot | i guess wethrin is bigger than a breadbox, unless said breadbox is > 5'11" long, or silly, or afraid that its time to correct how people use it's |
| 16:51.53 | pdr | ibot pdr |
| 16:51.54 | ibot | somebody said pdr was not trustworthy when it comes to beer, or the physicians desk reference |
| 16:52.22 | wethrin | pdr: Will you be around London after Easter? |
| 16:52.38 | pdr | yep |
| 16:52.44 | pdr | not during though |
| 16:52.48 | wethrin | That's fine |
| 16:53.00 | wethrin | So you can come and eat copious excellent Thai food around my birthday-time |
| 16:53.06 | gregj | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:53.07 | pdr | blody oath mate |
| 16:53.09 | Leeds | ibot wiki Leeds |
| 16:53.16 | wethrin | craic? |
| 16:53.20 | gregj | yeah |
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| 16:53.24 | Leeds | mmm.... craic :-) |
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| 16:53.34 | wethrin | It sounds like a whisky :) |
| 16:53.36 | wethrin | wb pdr |
| 16:53.37 | pdr | woops |
| 16:53.39 | Leeds | irish/celtic party |
| 16:53.41 | pdr | :-) |
| 16:53.45 | wethrin | So lots of whisky |
| 16:53.48 | wethrin | Or rather, whiskey |
| 16:53.59 | Leeds | I thought there was a music festival with that name too |
| 16:54.04 | Leeds | gregj: what's your point? :-) |
| 16:54.10 | gregj | point-blue |
| 16:54.11 | gregj | ;] |
| 16:54.25 | morsing | ibot morsing is a nice and very knowledgeable guy who often buys rounds of beer |
| 16:54.26 | ibot | morsing: okay |
| 16:54.35 | SlayerXP | a whiskey is actually a bourbon. yanks not knowing what they're talking about |
| 16:54.40 | Leeds | ibot morsing is also mozrat |
| 16:54.41 | ibot | Leeds: okay |
| 16:54.42 | pdr | funny.. i just realised that ctrl-w does something a little unexpected in x-chat |
| 16:54.48 | SlayerXP | whisky is what you are most likely referring too |
| 16:54.49 | wethrin | Most of the Irish whiskies I've seen are spelled 'whiskey' |
| 16:55.01 | gregj | ibot whisky |
| 16:55.02 | ibot | i guess whisky is very tasty, or good, mmkay |
| 16:55.17 | morsing | ibot whiskey |
| 16:55.18 | ibot | [whiskey] the draught of peril |
| 16:55.19 | wethrin | pdr: Closing the window? |
| 16:55.23 | wethrin | And bourbons can be okay |
| 16:55.27 | gregj | wethrin: yeah, I am writing it like that too |
| 16:55.28 | SlayerXP | wethrin: sold by illterates, or yanks then |
| 16:55.33 | pdr | wethrin: yeah, rather than delete a word |
| 16:55.40 | wethrin | Mm |
| 16:55.43 | morsing | ibot morsing |
| 16:55.44 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, morsing is a nice and very knowledgeable guy who often buys rounds of beer, or mozrat |
| 16:55.54 | wethrin | Whisky is normally Scottish |
| 16:56.25 | gregj | ibot morsing is very humble guy too |
| 16:56.26 | ibot | ...but morsing is already something else... |
| 16:56.34 | pdr | wethrin: if you ask the scots, they'll tell you that you shouldn't call it whisky if it's not from scotland |
| 16:56.48 | gregj | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:56.50 | wethrin | yes. It's often called 'whiskey' |
| 16:56.50 | wethrin | :) |
| 16:57.18 | gregj | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:57.19 | gregj | :D |
| 16:57.25 | wethrin | To ye :) |
| 16:57.58 | pdr | in english, 'ye' is and old form of 'the' |
| 16:58.16 | wethrin | Top o't'mornin' t'ye |
| 16:58.42 | wethrin | Also, the plural 'you' |
| 16:58.53 | pdr | nup, you is the plural |
| 16:58.59 | pdr | thou is the singular/impolite |
| 16:59.20 | gregj | SlayerXP: :] |
| 16:59.43 | gregj | SlayerXP: I am setting DROP for 'frequent spammies' |
| 16:59.55 | SlayerXP | drop? |
| 16:59.57 | wethrin | Nay, 'ye' exists as well |
| 17:00.04 | SlayerXP | why would you accept them at all? |
| 17:00.05 | pdr | really? |
| 17:00.07 | gregj | SlayerXP: since I have introduced that 'feature', load on my connection dropped around 4 times |
| 17:00.17 | Leeds | SlayerXP: drop at the network level, not the smtp level |
| 17:00.28 | Leeds | layer foo rather than layer bar |
| 17:00.31 | SlayerXP | oh |
| 17:00.34 | SlayerXP | that's boring |
| 17:00.35 | gregj | SlayerXP: iptables DROP, is not to respond to connection initiation |
| 17:00.41 | pdr | wethrin: looks like you're right |
| 17:01.12 | pdr | ye being nominative and you being dative or objective (Webster) |
| 17:01.58 | wethrin | Yes |
| 17:02.46 | pdr | but the irish use just 'ye' for all cases do they? |
| 17:03.35 | SlayerXP | gregj: adding greylisting means I've not had one single spam since about the start of december |
| 17:03.50 | gregj | ;] |
| 17:04.08 | wethrin | pdr: not necessarily. It was more phonetic than grammatical |
| 17:04.19 | pdr | hmm.. interesting |
| 17:04.41 | pdr | anyway, it still stands that "you" is always plural/polite |
| 17:04.55 | wethrin | Indeed |
| 17:04.59 | wethrin | Unless preceded by OI! |
| 17:05.06 | pdr | hehe |
| 17:05.18 | SlayerXP | or "cunt", or other such words |
| 17:05.49 | pdr | it's still treated as plural gramatically tho |
| 17:06.06 | wethrin | Surely 'you' would precede 'cunt', otherwise it wouldn't make snes |
| 17:06.09 | wethrin | *sense |
| 17:06.10 | pdr | "you are a cunt" rather than "you is a cunt" |
| 17:06.28 | wethrin | "ye be a cunt, to be sure" :) |
| 17:06.34 | pdr | lol |
| 17:07.38 | pdr | "thou is a cunt" is ok, and probably more insulting, assuming the familiar/informal case |
| 17:08.19 | wethrin | Yes, but makes it look like you're just weird, mixing archaic and slang |
| 17:09.28 | pdr | apparently "thou" is also a verb, meaning to use the words thou and thee in discourse |
| 17:10.07 | wethrin | thouing? |
| 17:10.12 | pdr | yep |
| 17:10.31 | wethrin | :) |
| 17:10.40 | gregj | http://www.geekasaurus.com/cornholio.html |
| 17:10.50 | wethrin | Heh. Heheheh. Heh. Hehe. Heh. |
| 17:11.05 | pdr | http://wari.mckay.com/~rm/cofinman.jpg |
| 17:11.34 | Leeds | ah-ha... it looks like I might actually be doing something useful in Boston after all :-) |
| 17:11.42 | wethrin | Surely not! |
| 17:12.30 | wethrin | fancy |
| 17:12.35 | Leeds | just spoke to a marketing bod (bird) who I worked with last summer, she knows I'm coming, and they're trying to work out the story and the plan now, and I'm part of it :-) |
| 17:12.42 | Leeds | rhowe: it's just like a only faster, really |
| 17:12.49 | Leeds | uh, just like b |
| 17:16.40 | morsing | gregj: It's a black page? |
| 17:17.27 | gregj | nope |
| 17:17.30 | gregj | it's flash thinige |
| 17:21.57 | Cope | Leeds: whom |
| 17:22.45 | Leeds | with whom I worked? |
| 17:24.59 | Leeds | oh, and I was amused yesterday when I noticed a little icon on the taskbar of the PC at the hospital... a little VNC icon :-) |
| 17:31.25 | pdr | gregj: seems my flash plugin doesn't do sound |
| 17:31.31 | pdr | :-( |
| 17:32.10 | pdr | later guys |
| 17:32.29 | rhowe | Leeds: Well, it's my first time playing with 802.11 at all, so it should be interesting |
| 17:32.33 | rhowe | Leeds: First step - drill holes :) |
| 17:33.21 | rhowe | Anyway, time to go do it |
| 17:43.44 | Leeds | http://www.linuxvirgin.info/ |
| 17:43.54 | Leeds | apparently not safe for work... |
| 18:13.36 | Leeds | okay, so the workaround for thunderbird getting stuck saving a mail to Sent is to send a dummy mail, let it fail, cancel it without saving it, then all other mails in that session will work |
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| 18:34.27 | akrobat4 | hiya! is there a linux tool/app which converts ppt files to pdf? i can not/do not wanna use openoffice as i only have 64megs on my laptop. there is ppthtml but it does not do images/slides! |
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| 18:50.08 | Leeds | Marios_: so you're coming to FOSDEM then for sure? |
| 18:53.31 | Marios_ | I am not sure 100% |
| 18:53.46 | Marios_ | I hope I can make it |
| 18:53.58 | George | anyone want to fund me to come to fosdem? |
| 18:54.08 | Marios_ | lol |
| 18:54.31 | Leeds | George: no |
| 18:54.39 | George | anyone want to fund me not to come to fosdem? |
| 18:54.40 | Leeds | I'll buy you a drink if you're there though |
| 18:54.48 | George | Leeds: I'm broke |
| 18:55.04 | Leeds | sell a monitor, do the trip in style |
| 18:55.49 | Leeds | the google maps thing is really really good |
| 18:56.46 | Marios_ | Leeds: are you leaving on Friday ? |
| 18:57.00 | Leeds | yes |
| 18:57.14 | Leeds | but later than most people because I've got medical stuff to do in the morning |
| 18:57.28 | Leeds | when do you start work? when are you going to ask them if you can come? :-) |
| 18:58.08 | Marios_ | I start tomorrow but I don't know when to ask |
| 18:58.24 | Leeds | I suggest tomorrow :-) |
| 18:58.33 | Marios_ | hahahahhahaahhahah |
| 18:58.49 | Leeds | obviously, you need to work on the basis of the environment, but I would plan to ask tomorrow unless you feel it's wrong - don't plan not to ask |
| 18:58.51 | Marios_ | let's see how things are there |
| 18:59.01 | Marios_ | hmm ok |
| 18:59.38 | Leeds | maybe it's just me, but I would be asking as soon as it made sense... not just after walking in the door, but sometime during the day |
| 19:00.14 | Marios_ | as you said I should see the environment first |
| 19:00.19 | Leeds | yes |
| 19:01.02 | Leeds | but unless it's a really nasty atmosphere, you're establishing yourself as someone with a bit of assertiveness |
| 19:01.54 | Marios_ | the thing is that I mentioned Linux in the interview and it was like talking about Mars |
| 19:02.41 | Leeds | so? tell them you want to go to mars :-) |
| 19:03.08 | Marios_ | lol |
| 19:03.24 | Marios_ | it is a very windows environment |
| 19:04.31 | Leeds | you need to get out of there into a sane world then - a world of slightly drunk European geeks :-) |
| 19:04.55 | Marios_ | heheheehee |
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| 19:22.53 | rdancer | hi, rhowe_ |
| 19:24.48 | rdancer | ibot: calc 3.6 * 40 |
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| 19:39.32 | rhowe | heya rd |
| 19:39.37 | rhowe | Oh well :P |
| 19:48.02 | rhowe | Leeds: Plenty of DVB fixups in 2.6.11-rc3, looking at the changelog |
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| 21:20.31 | stephanb | hi everybody |
| 21:20.58 | Marios_ | hi stephanb |
| 21:21.29 | stephanb | what's happening ? |
| 21:22.01 | Marios_ | not much |
| 21:22.10 | Marios_ | as you can see it is quiet tonight |
| 21:22.42 | stephanb | everybody is watching brat camp on c4 or auschwitz on bbc2 |
| 21:23.18 | Marios_ | ohhh I didn't know it was tonight |
| 21:23.23 | Marios_ | good you told me |
| 21:23.49 | stephanb | well they both started at 21.00 |
| 21:24.15 | Marios_ | at least I could see the last 35 mins |
| 21:24.19 | stephanb | tomorrow u can record "snatch" on five at 22.00 |
| 21:24.32 | Marios_ | :) |
| 21:50.12 | Marios_ | ok it is over |
| 21:51.01 | stephanb | what did you watch ? |
| 21:51.13 | Marios_ | Auschwitz |
| 21:51.18 | stephanb | im stupid auschwitz of course |
| 21:51.26 | stephanb | brat camp is still on |
| 21:51.37 | Marios_ | what is brat camp? |
| 21:52.08 | stephanb | not too stupid "reality tv" show on channel 4 about this camp in USA |
| 21:52.16 | Marios_ | ohhh |
| 21:52.45 | stephanb | that takes "disruptive" teenagers and teaches them how to trek in the wild |
| 21:52.55 | stephanb | make fire, build a tent,etc. |
| 21:52.58 | Marios_ | ohhhh |
| 21:53.12 | Marios_ | interesting |
| 21:53.14 | stephanb | last year's series was interesting |
| 21:53.16 | Marios_ | I am watching it now |
| 21:53.29 | stephanb | of course it's at the same time as auschwitz |
| 21:53.40 | Marios_ | yeah |
| 21:53.49 | stephanb | and i don't have 2 tv cards in my computer |
| 21:54.36 | stephanb | i thought about recording brat camp on tape though |
| 21:59.14 | Marios_ | I just have the TV in front of the computer :) |
| 22:03.42 | stephanb | it's not the same thing, you can't record tv on your hard drive |
| 22:04.57 | Marios_ | I am planning to get DVD burner for TV ;) |
| 22:06.08 | stephanb | some of those things now have a hard drive |
| 22:06.18 | Marios_ | yeah |
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| 22:34.17 | Jango | The 2.6.0-test6 (and above) kernels include the latest version of the |
| 22:34.18 | Jango | synaptics driver, and require you to download the latest synaptics |
| 22:34.18 | Jango | module (or at least v0.11.7). For explanation and a link to the |
| 22:34.18 | Jango | download: |
| 22:34.18 | Jango | http://w1.894.telia.com/~u89404340/touchpad/index.html |
| 22:34.23 | Jango | sorry, wrong chan |
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