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06:48.59highburyBokker Tov
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08:56.25morsingmorning *cough*
08:58.00Leedsmorning...
09:09.41eye69Leeds: Are you in Israel now?
09:11.51morsingeye69: FreeBSD?
09:12.30eye69Uhm, no. Been a few years.
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09:15.01morsingmozrat!
09:15.06morsingCoffee?
09:15.20mozrat-yes please morsing
09:15.40mozrat-niiice
09:15.42morsingWhere did he go?
09:15.45mozrat-cheers, and top of the morning to you
09:15.51mozrat-I'm here, my alter-ego left
09:15.55morsingAhh
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09:26.24mozrat-morning mart
09:26.47SlayerXPlo
09:27.06SlayerXPghm
09:27.20SlayerXPhow did you get in the club of people who are allowed to called me "Mart" ?
09:28.13mozrat-simply by hitting the m - a - r - t keys on my keyboard
09:28.49SlayerXPright, that's the usual way
09:29.35mozrat-:)
09:44.22morsingAnyone here heard of COMAL?
09:45.13pdrhmm.. morsing and mozrat seen for the first time in the same place at the same time..
09:45.46morsingWhat?
09:45.57pdrthere was a rumour that you were the same person
09:46.21morsingWas there?
09:46.28pdrthere was
09:55.06morsingMmm... COMAL
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10:04.45mozrat-well, someone from Hong Kong just IM'd me with a URL to a file called omg.pif
10:04.59mozrat-using language like "open it u'll lov it, it's cool"
10:05.02mozrat-which is most unlike him
10:05.21mozrat-hmm. me thinks maybe this is a IM-bourne virus
10:05.33SlayerXPyes
10:05.45SlayerXPjust had a warning about that on a mail list
10:06.19itsbruceBetter tell someone from Hong Kong that he has a virus
10:09.31mozrat-itsbruce, yep
10:13.20SlayerXP"492 upgraded, 48 newly installed"
10:13.29SlayerXPso, it's been a while since I last updated this laptop, then
10:35.15morsingmilk
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10:42.08Leedseye69: indeed I am
10:42.28Leedswas out getting myself a local pay-as-you-go SIM card
10:43.23Leedsdon't do that
10:43.49SlayerXPyou should be used to that, no?
10:43.54morsingLeeds: You never said goodbye
10:43.56Leedswhy would I be?
10:44.03Leedsmorsing: I'm coming back, you know :-)
10:44.15Leedsdid you find your petrol?
10:44.31SlayerXPi went to Soham yesterday
10:44.42SlayerXPwell, to the very outskirts thereof, anyway
10:48.14Leedsright, time to go for a drive...
10:48.44morsingLeeds: No - I had to fill 97 on it. Fortunately I had a bottle of octane booster in the car
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10:54.45morsing*sniff*
11:00.48rhowe"AS per our ocnversationt oday, pelase find attached the Service level Guiarante for your SDSL connections."
11:01.10rhoweheh, she resent the email 2 minutes later after introducing it to a spell checker, it seems
11:02.18mozrat-ugh, more MSN virus madness
11:03.51mozrat-http://windows-is-a-virus-ridden-pile-of-shit.foo/omg.pif see it! u'll like it
11:14.26wethrinmorning
11:25.57mozrat-moin wethrin
11:30.22wethrinhi
11:30.24wethrinMeeting time!
11:37.19itsbruceexim++
11:37.44SlayerXPall sane people like exim
11:38.00SlayerXPother people use postfix, qmail, sendmail and other such retardery
11:47.30SlayerXPand lo!  lynda's laptop was updated with the latest and greatest debian
11:50.51morsingwethrin?
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11:56.24AngelChildmorning o/
11:56.33morsingmorning
11:59.04mozrat-AngelChild, no longer ill?
11:59.35AngelChildnah, but nowhere near as bad as i was
11:59.39AngelChildmostly just very tired now
12:00.19SlayerXPhttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7137070817
12:02.07mozrat-why would anyone pay ~£40 for spent ammo cases
12:02.57mozrat-haha. just scrolled down
12:03.35AngelChildwhat a description
12:03.37AngelChild:D
12:19.27morsingANS1114I Waiting for mount of offline media.
13:13.58wethrinHello
13:19.47AngelChildhallo
13:27.09wethrin'ello
13:30.47mozrat-Me: Does the server have a ILO card? Is it on the network?
13:30.59mozrat-Customer: Yes it has an ILO card.. it's plugged in
13:31.07mozrat-Me: cool, whats the ILO address
13:31.13mozrat-Customer: Whats an ILO card
13:31.17mozrat-argh
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13:45.01pdrhiya formi
13:45.11formihi pdr
13:45.33formiI see you are going to bore us to death soon enough :->
13:46.50pdrindeed
13:46.58pdryou'll be there will you?
13:47.49formiI don't know at what time I will arrive as I will have to go for a TCR raid earlier
13:48.56pdryou know it's at old street?
13:49.14formiI am on the admin list
13:49.20pdr:-)
13:49.32formieven though I am throughouly ignored
13:49.54pdryou are probably too blunt for them to take
14:07.36itsbruceAnd has the list archived locally and there are only three messages from you in it, Formi...
14:07.51itsbruceOnly one of which is about GLLUG business and that was on the 28th of May 2004
14:11.40formiwell pdr, you know it as well as me
14:12.50formiitsbruce: I have been quite ignored and frankly I only post when I have no other choice,
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14:13.21formithe last email was because i didn't want to subscribe to the list to just send a single email
14:15.20itsbruceIf there's something you want done, make noise about it or do it.  It's not as if GLLUG is even a formal body of any kind.
14:18.16formithere is only one thing I cared enough to voice, since the very same day that Ivan quit, I have been saying that cattering for the experts on the group was the most important thing
14:19.04formiotherwise GLLUG would arrive at the position it is today
14:19.30pdrformi: that's a good point.  and i agree
14:20.05pdri'm planning on doing this python talk and possibly even a C tutorial either at the next meeting or a subsequent one
14:20.21itsbruceformi: Well, if you raise it again on the gllugadmin list, you'll find several people agreeing with you in part or in whole, depending on how you phrase it
14:20.49pdri hope a programming focus may be of more interest to a slightly more expert audience
14:21.07itsbruceLeeds, for example, is keen to have more talks from the people who actually invented/created things, rather than just people who use it
14:21.11pdrit's more difficult to cater for the guru types tho
14:21.47itsbrucepdr: Frankly, most of ths high-skilled people on list don't look to it for a source of information and are unlikely to change that
14:22.41pdritsbruce: it's more a social thing, i guess, for them
14:22.49itsbruceBut that doesn't mean they wouldn't turn up for a high-power talk.  And Dean in particular has some good candidates lined up.
14:23.16pdrcool
14:23.30pdri think with a bit of effort we can get gllug back on the rails
14:27.36itsbruceBut it's never going to be the same as it was.  When I joined GLLUG, most people on it (as on most LUGs) were new to Linux and everybody was looking for information
14:28.27itsbruceNow the skill and experience levels are much more varied but also there is much more, better information online and in the bookstores
14:31.30formithe basic principle is: alienate the hardcore experts, loose the speakers
14:34.53itsbruceIt's true the quality of speakers has suffered.  I don't think that's been anybody's plan
14:35.11itsbruceWho did you have lined up?
14:42.38formiI remenber the first times I turned up, everything sounded almost alien to me, I went to a summer talk at UCL with J.Hearns and Vince about QoS
14:44.09formiand I think 2 or 3 years later J.Hearns gave a talk on a similer subject, I found myself remenbering staff from the earlier talk
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14:56.14AngelChildo> o/
14:56.19AngelChild\o\
14:56.25pdr?
14:56.30AngelChild4*\o/12* 4*\o/12* 4*\o/12* 4*\o/12* 4*\o/12* 4*\o/12* 4*\o/12* 4*\o/12* 4*\o/12* 4*\o/12* 4*\o/12* 4*\o/12*
14:56.35AngelChild¬.¬
14:56.48AngelChildI suspect I might be slightly bored
14:56.51pdris this one of those iq tests where you have to pick the odd one out?
14:57.13AngelChildwell, you can try but since it isn't you might have trouble reasoning it out
14:58.07LeedsAngelChild: (I think he's calling you odd... and I think he's right)
14:58.24Leedsbtw, afternoon all
14:58.49pdrhehe
14:58.50pdrhey leeds
14:59.10pdrhow's it going over there?
14:59.57Leedsnot bad... not really done anything :-)
15:00.10Leedsthere's been a touch of rain this afternoon
15:00.23AngelChild<PROTECTED>
15:00.29AngelChild:D
15:00.39Leedsso, we're all in agreement then - that's good
15:00.53pdrLeeds: rest is for the wicked!  go and check some stuff out!
15:01.21pdrAngelChild: who are you on the mailing list?
15:01.29Leedsplanning to go to a lug meeting in Jerusalem on Wednesday... got to make some calls about now
15:02.25Leedsgot myself a local phone number this morning :-)
15:02.47AngelChildpdr: I'm not on the mailing list
15:02.52pdrah, i see
15:02.54AngelChildI don't even live near london any more :)
15:03.00pdrhehe
15:03.43AngelChild(allegedly)
15:03.50JAVgood afternoon
15:03.51LeedsI mean, you're still in the same country... I'm on a different continent (for a short while anyway)
15:03.56Leedsafternoon JAV
15:04.12AngelChildLeeds: weather's probably better where you are though :
15:04.13AngelChild:)
15:04.21AngelChildyo JAV
15:04.25Leedscloudy, warm, humid, with a few spots of rain
15:06.04pdrLeeds: overcast here
15:06.14pdris northampton near southampton?
15:06.26AngelChildi think northampton is north of southampton but not in the north
15:06.54pdrit took about 1:20min from SE1, London
15:07.16pdrup the M1
15:07.21AngelChildsouthampton be on the coast by the isle of wight so
15:07.28pdrah! i see
15:07.56AngelChildi need to fix my grammar and complete senstences
15:08.05AngelChildand learn how to spell sentence too :)
15:09.41pdrmy girlfriend does sustainable development stuff for the government office of london
15:10.03pdrshe writes reports on golbal warming and such
15:10.50AngelChildi'm interested by it but this is just an assignment set by my tutor, i'm actually doing a degree in computer engineering... which is why i'm somewhat apathetic towards actually doing it...
15:11.40pdrweird assignment to get given
15:11.59pdrit's an "ethics in engineering" type subject or something?
15:14.45AngelChildnah, just my tutor wanting to know about something i think, he's a bit of an odd person to deal with
15:15.16AngelChild(as part of the course we get set two essays a term... to keep us having a go at technical writing i suspect)
15:15.43pdri see
15:16.26pdrit's quite topical at the moment anyway, what with oil wars and kyoto and such
15:16.38morsing*sniff*
15:16.44pdrsup morsing?
15:17.04Leedsmorsing: still ill?
15:20.02morsingYes
15:20.13morsingGot worse after I went outside on Saturday
15:22.02Leedswell... everyone knows that going outside is bad for you
15:22.15morsingEven in Israel
15:22.17morsing?
15:22.30Leedsfar too much uv
15:23.16pdrbah!
15:23.23pdrmoon-tanned geeks!
15:23.34pdrsun is good for you.
15:23.59Leedsfor me?  you're saying Sun is good for me?
15:24.21pdrs/E/D/
15:24.28Leedssed?
15:24.38pdrvitamin D, not E :-)
15:24.56Leedsyes, yes :-)
15:25.57pdrbut that would work in sed, yes
15:25.58pdr:-)
15:28.33Leedshas been - is no more... and it's Sun, not SUN
15:28.34pdrhahaha!
15:29.06Leedsoh, you didn't realise what I meant? :-)
15:29.15pdrno!
15:29.25Leedsduh
15:29.28pdrthanks
15:29.36Leeds:-)
15:29.47Leedsibot fishslap pdr
15:29.50ibotACTION slaps pdr up side the head with a wet fish.
15:29.57pdryum
15:29.59LeedsI can't reach you from here...
15:30.30formiibot: wet fish are expensive
15:30.32ibotformi: okay
15:32.12Leedshmm... apparently intel is the biggest non-military private employer in Israel
15:32.57formiall that sand over there is useful
15:33.08Leedsheh
15:34.27LeedsI did notice a freescale (motorola's spun-off chip-making division) office this afternoon, on a business park which, 12 years ago, had a Digitial office... and there's a microsoft office just down the road
15:36.09pdryou thinking of looking for work with MS?
15:37.20itsbruceDid the temperature just drop in here?
15:39.23JAVLeeds: you obviously know this, don't you? --> http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-pow-portsolaris/
15:39.51Leedspdr: was actually thinking that while SlayerXP's comment earlier was very inappropriate, maybe it wasn't quite as bad as it sounded
15:40.05SlayerXP?
15:40.28Leedsabout loud explosion-type noises nearby
15:40.58JAV"know" --> heard about the doc
15:41.09LeedsJAV: yeah, I think so...
15:41.22JAV:D
15:42.15itsbruce??
15:42.40pdrLeeds: you want to blow up MS then?
15:42.52itsbruceLife expectancy is about a specific individual or group.  itym average lifespan.
15:42.55Leedspdr: not particularly...
15:43.56Leedsbut I'd be ever so slightly less pissed off if someone blew up an MS office than, say, a nice nightclub at Tel Aviv beach, as they have a habit of doing... drove past one a couple of times today (the same one) which was blown up by a British bomber last year
15:45.12wethrinFoo
15:45.18pdritsbruce: i guess so
15:45.23pdrhey wethrin
15:45.25wethrinhi
15:45.30wethrinI'm having a busy day
15:45.33LeedsJAV: remove access from their fathers if they refuse to come to speak to the teachers?
15:45.43pdrwethrin: me too
15:45.52pdrwell it started very busy
15:45.58itsbruceTrevor Phillips seems to be going slightly mad
15:46.08pdrwho?
15:46.27JAVLeeds: put them altogether on a different class
15:46.33LeedsJAV: that too
15:46.43pdrwethrin: what you been up to?
15:46.59Leedspdr: might be easier if you look for israel :-)
15:47.31AngelChilditym?
15:47.50wethrinpdr: Bombing, etching, oxidation, and still need to do an evaporation
15:47.55LeedsJAV: honestly, I don't really want to be doing Solaris stuff...
15:47.59LeedsAngelChild: what is itym?
15:47.59pdrAngelChild: i think you mean
15:48.02wethrinBut first, I need a cold drink
15:48.04Leedsah
15:48.04wethrinBack in 5
15:48.06AngelChildah
15:48.26itsbrucepdr: What JAV and Leeds were talking about
15:48.48pdrok
15:48.49itsbruceTP is chair of the Race Relations Board
15:49.17itsbruceOr whatever its exact name is nowadays
15:49.19Leedshe does tend to get somewhat radical at times - maybe it's just his way of making sure his agenda stays current and high-profile
15:49.32pdrIsrael: Life expectancy at birth: total population: 79.17 years
15:49.32pdrUK: Life expectancy at birth: total population: 78.27 years
15:49.51JAVLeeds: after a life with x86 anything different (POWER) is interesting to me
15:50.14itsbruceLeeds: Sure, but his current proposals seem designed to provoke backlash and reinforce negative perceptions
15:50.35Leedspdr: I'd be interested in a comparison of "white middle-class" in the UK and "Jewish middle-class" in Israel...
15:50.52pdrhmm.. probably difficult figures to come by
15:50.54Leedsitsbruce: they do seem a little deranged, yes
15:51.04Leedspdr: oh, I wasn't suggesting you'd have the figures to hand :-)
15:51.09pdrnot as much difference between then two as i remember
15:51.28itsbruceJAV: Aye.  Power architecture is very interesting
15:51.31pdr:-)
15:54.46pdrok, gotta get out of here, have a few hours sleep before class
15:54.48JAVitsbruce: it looks that finally there'll be a *real* cpu war, not just more Mhz
15:55.01wethrinWhee
15:55.35pdrlaters
15:55.51wethrinWas it something I said?
15:56.05JAVsurely the "Whee" thing :D
15:56.19wethrinAhh
15:57.27AngelChildhttp://cagle.slate.msn.com/news/CO2/images/kal.gif <-- hmm
15:59.42wethrinhmm?
16:01.43Leedslooks like an Economist cartoon to me
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19:15.28woman8076hello
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20:04.11woman8076hi leeds
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20:20.38Leedsevening woman8076
20:27.10woman8076bit quiet today
20:30.58AngelChild2.Learn Lifeskills With Robot Wars!  - Free Lecture
20:31.01AngelChildmwahahaha
20:31.19Leedsrobot wars?
20:31.32AngelChildaccording to the IEE
20:32.45Leedsmmm... futurama... I have 2.something seasons on my laptop for emergency humour when travelling :-)
20:34.05woman8076I'd imagine you might need emergrncy humour in Israel
20:34.05Leedsso, anyone know?  what's a flag which looks like the USA flag, but with a circle of stars instead of a grid?
20:34.35Leedswhy's that then?
20:36.09Leedsokay, there may be a touch of gallows about the local humour...
20:39.14woman8076Liberia has one star instead of 50, and Malaysia has a crescent and a star
20:40.10Leedswe were in a schnitzel shop, and they had chickens on the menu on the wall... one painted like the US flag, one like the Australian, one like the UK... and one like the US with a circle
20:45.45Leedsit is possible it's not a real flag :-)
20:46.39woman8076which one did you buy?
20:47.07Leedsoh, I had the Mexican schnitzel :-)
20:47.11SlayerXPyo fo sup manizzle?
20:47.32Leedshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_United_States suggests it was the "Betsy Ross" version of the US flag
20:48.34LeedsSlayerXP: flag-hunting
20:48.53SlayerXP?
20:49.55SlayerXPis it legal to have a woman here?
20:51.43Leedswe have multiple women here, although, strangely, far less than 8076 of them
20:52.04SlayerXPLeeds: you're a girl????
20:52.07SlayerXPi had no idea.
20:52.35woman8076lol
20:52.48Leedsnope... still male
20:53.25woman8076so the shop was using the 1776 version of the US flag
20:55.13Leedsapparently, as well as a current one (well, approximately current - I didn't count the stars)
20:55.28SlayerXPi'd say this converation was a bit odd, by my only alternative would be to offer up 24oz of 83Q drugs
20:56.04SlayerXPyours for a mere 5k
20:56.05Leedshmm... drugs...
20:56.29LeedsI don't pay for my drugs
20:56.43SlayerXPhttp://www.drugrunners.net
20:58.39Leedslooks like fun
21:00.05SlayerXPsign up and i'll give you some drugs to get you on your way
21:00.23Leedsnah...
21:00.25SlayerXPsay 5k for 10oz of 83Q
21:00.37LeedsI find I don't keep up with web games
21:00.39SlayerXPwoth nearly 7k when sold on th epublic market
21:00.44SlayerXPworth
21:04.44woman8076is it legal to have drug dealers here?
21:05.23Leedssure
21:08.50SlayerXPwoman8076: depends, are you cute?
21:09.27Leedsibot fishslap SlayerXP for being even more of a prat than normal
21:09.29ibotACTION slaps SlayerXP up side the head with a wet fish for being even more of a prat than normal
21:10.09woman8076I *think* all the FOSDEM photos of me have been taken down again
21:10.12SlayerXPharsh
21:10.32SlayerXPwhat do you mean "even more"? :)
21:10.34Leedswoman8076: are you sure? :-)
21:10.38woman8076I like my anonymity :?)
21:10.39Leedswoman8076: and are you Jennifer?
21:12.08Leedsha! you could be lying...
21:12.33LeedsI'll swap an admission of Jennifer-ness for not posting my photos you online :-)
21:12.50SlayerXPLeeds: url?
21:13.12notjennyI lack Blutooth functionality
21:13.28Leedshmm... that's a fine excuse, I guess
21:13.43notjennyJennifer is technically superior
21:13.49LeedsSlayerXP: they're not there *yet* - I'm just trying to see what I can get for them
21:14.32SlayerXPLeeds: will trade 4oz of 82Q
21:14.36SlayerXP83
21:14.44JAVevening
21:15.59Leedshmm...
21:16.22Leedsso now you're offering drugs in payment for naughty photos?
21:17.05SlayerXPmmm, yes, seems so
21:23.02SlayerXPwell, make with the naughty photos
21:23.30Leedsnegotiations are proceeding
21:26.26LeedsJennifer gets first refusal - they're worth more if she *really* doesn't want them shown
21:29.28notjennyslayer: I only let flattering images get published
21:29.46notjennyit's difficult to find a good photographer these days
21:29.47Leedsoh, that explains why you wanted me to remove all 50 of them!
21:29.52SlayerXPsure, url?
21:30.34SlayerXPhttp://photos.hinterlands.org/p9021719.html
21:31.14notjennyahh... a rose...
21:31.24SlayerXPnot just any rose
21:31.30JAVaahh... a error message
21:31.31LeedsSlayerXP: see http://www.j-colo.net/~richardc/tmp/390.jpg (just a thumbnail - my connection is being slow)
21:31.39SlayerXPone of the last roses of authumn
21:31.50SlayerXPand one blowing about like buggery in the wind
21:32.11SlayerXPLeeds: she looks a bit rough there, to be honest
21:32.22Leedsnot her best side, I think
21:40.24notjennyfotopic appears to be temperamental
21:41.26SlayerXPit has character
21:41.48notjennyit's 404 page is boring
21:41.53notjennyits
21:42.01Leedsha!
21:42.03SlayerXPhint: try a page that exists instead
21:42.50notjennymost give "Could not connect"
21:43.13SlayerXPjust email me your high-res photos directly
21:43.15SlayerXPeasy fix
21:43.54notjennyI was looking at yours
21:44.09SlayerXPi have lots
21:44.20SlayerXPmostly not of me
21:44.33notjennylots of kittens
21:44.41SlayerXPtrue
21:45.41Leedsmmm... pussy
21:46.30SlayerXPand if I mention that I frequently get wet pussy rubbed on my face?
21:51.08Leedsthen you're a sick sick man... I don't really like cats so much
22:04.25AngelChildo.o
22:04.42LeedsAngelChild: hello
22:04.48notjennyis angelchild female?
22:06.59AngelChildHELLO
22:07.05AngelChildangelchild might be female :)
22:07.06notjennyhi
22:07.15AngelChildthen again she might be a porpoise
22:07.17AngelChildwho knows
22:07.29notjennyprobably more fun being a porpoise
22:07.41AngelChildi suspect so :)
22:07.48AngelChildbut unfortunately I've never tried it
22:09.24arany particular reason for not using a conventional light?
22:09.54notjennyor downloading the book to the laptop?
22:10.25Leedsar: I have a bright room light, but the switch is across the room... I have a local lamp, but it's purple and dim - bad for reading... and I haven't seen a downloadable version of this particular tome
22:10.43AngelChild/dev/locallamp
22:10.47notjennyjust wondered if I was still in a minority
22:11.05Leedsnotjenny: I suspect you will be for the foreseeable future
22:11.10ar/dev/lamp0 -> /dev/local/lamp
22:11.31Leedsln /dev/backlight /dev/lamp0
22:11.35AngelChildLeeds: we'll see about that xD
22:11.59arhard link eh
22:12.01LeedsAngelChild: with pleasure :-)
22:12.18AngelChildpff :)
22:12.32Leedsar: yeah... that might be a mistake
22:13.30arLeeds, no idea if it is or not
22:14.05Leedswell, I think a symlink would be more sensible in this case
22:14.33Leedsgiven that it's an "acting as" rather than "is" relationship
22:17.50arwould stuff like that be handled by devfs or udev?
22:23.21Leedswhat, would they handle the concept of using a laptop backlight as a reading lamp? :-)
22:23.45*** join/#gllug BobtheAvenger (Bob@host213-122-56-23.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
22:24.28Leedsmornin' BobtheAvenger
22:24.36BobtheAvengerhey
22:24.47arhi
22:24.56BobtheAvengerhow are yall?
22:24.59arLeeds, i was thinking more the concept of symlinks and hard links under /dev
22:25.11Leedsah...
22:25.27Leedssymlinks, certainly
22:26.32BobtheAvenger*fine bob, how are you*
22:26.45arhmm, i get Operation not permitted
22:27.21notjennyhi bob
22:27.27BobtheAvengerhey
22:27.28BobtheAvengerstupid physics tests
22:28.01arphysics is cool :)
22:28.24BobtheAvengerit would be if me and my physics teacher could agree on my score
22:28.53Leeds42
22:29.08arhow big is the discrepancy?
22:29.15BobtheAvengerhe says i got 100% but i only got 97
22:29.32notjennydoes that matter?
22:29.34arwell, i wouldn't argue too much
22:29.36Leedswait... you're arguing because you were given extra marks???
22:29.59BobtheAvengerno but if i'm getting 100% when i got 97 how do i improve?
22:30.17Leedsyou start correcting the questions
22:30.46arhmm, did that on an interview test for my current employer
22:31.25Leedsdid that when chatting with my soon-to-be or recently previous employer
22:31.26BobtheAvengerleeds: thats how i found out that i got 97%
22:32.38BobtheAvenger100% isnt even that good
22:35.34BobtheAvengerstupid smart people
22:43.39notjennywhat level of physics are you doing?
22:43.52BobtheAvenger1st year of GCSE
22:44.21notjennyyeah, I could get 97% back then
22:44.59BobtheAvengeri'm bored off people smart than me in my class
22:45.51notjennydon't forget to have fun, exams aren't everything
22:46.07BobtheAvengeri spend most of my time tellin them to chill
22:47.24BobtheAvengerbut i really dont care that they know than sin pi/2 radians = 1
22:52.09BobtheAvenger*that
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23:15.51AngelChildhrm, the physics we did struck me as being a little lacking in substance
23:15.58AngelChildthey removed most of the maths from the course :
23:15.58AngelChild:/
23:16.46arhow tedious
23:17.22AngelChildindeed
23:30.52*** part/#gllug notjenny (suzanne@83-216-146-103.suzann536.adsl.metronet.co.uk)
23:33.29AngelChildSLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK

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