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| 10:31.42 | wethrin | SPLITTERS! |
| 10:39.08 | Leeds | bah |
| 10:43.50 | wethrin | Oh? |
| 10:45.44 | Leeds | nothing particular, but it just doesn't feel wrong |
| 10:46.25 | eye69 | Leeds: Did you contact the Intel woman? |
| 10:46.43 | Leeds | eye69: nah... not yet and/or they're looking for hardware people as far as I can tell |
| 10:46.55 | eye69 | Ahhh. :/ |
| 10:47.05 | Leeds | yeah, it's 1246 already! |
| 10:47.23 | eye69 | No, it's 11.47! |
| 10:48.58 | Leeds | ibot change 85 usd to gbp |
| 10:52.16 | Leeds | that's for a double room at the YMCA in Jerusalem... it's not YMCA acommodation - it's a hotel in the YMCA building |
| 10:53.00 | eye69 | Leeds: Do Israeli buses have gates in the doors? |
| 10:53.10 | eye69 | I heard something about a year ago about that. |
| 10:53.24 | Leeds | what do you mean by gates? anyway, I've not been on a bus, and I don't intend to... |
| 10:54.26 | eye69 | As in a gate a'la "ticket gate" to make it harder for suicide bombers. |
| 10:55.12 | Leeds | like a turnstyle? not that I've noticed |
| 10:56.51 | eye69 | Ok. |
| 10:58.24 | Leeds | doesn't mean they're not there, or that they're not on some busses... |
| 11:00.19 | eye69 | The system might've been on trial but failed. |
| 11:00.26 | Leeds | also possible |
| 11:01.21 | eye69 | http://www.globes.co.il/DocsEn/did=764128.htm |
| 11:01.27 | eye69 | Google to the rescue. :) |
| 11:03.38 | Leeds | ah, a trial on 5 busses in Jerusalem last year... well - I've not been to Jerusalem yet on this trip - heading off there soonish - and retro-fitting it to lots of busses would cost an absolute fortune |
| 11:03.53 | eye69 | Mmmm. |
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| 11:32.52 | Leeds | how many people, where actually is it, is there pub/food afterwards... |
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| 11:40.20 | Leeds | afternoon lockige |
| 11:40.26 | lockige | afternoon |
| 11:41.31 | lockige | how are we today? |
| 11:42.01 | Leeds | not bad... feeling far too lazy :-) |
| 11:42.37 | Leeds | you? |
| 11:42.56 | lockige | ditto. in my dressing gown--not a good sign |
| 11:43.30 | Leeds | well, I'm somewhere between showered and dressed... I should point out that I'm in GMT+2 right now, so I'm even lazier :-) |
| 11:44.36 | lockige | ha! this is my first gllug experience, i have to admit. |
| 11:44.58 | Leeds | I'm not normally in GMT+2 - I'm in Israel on holiday/jobhunting/etc. |
| 11:45.34 | lockige | fun? |
| 11:45.52 | Leeds | very much so... even with the gentle soothing rain |
| 11:46.46 | Leeds | although Google is persisting in giving me results in Hebrew :-) |
| 11:47.07 | lockige | hehe. that's probably my least favourite google thing; what if i don't *want* co.uk? |
| 11:47.27 | Leeds | it only started recently... I was getting .be a couple of weeks back... when in Brussels, of course |
| 11:47.33 | eye69 | Same here. I get google.se...annoying. |
| 11:47.54 | eye69 | It should heed the language setting in the browser. |
| 11:48.22 | Leeds | yeah |
| 11:48.38 | Leeds | since that's exactly the sort of thing the language selection is for |
| 11:48.50 | eye69 | Yup. |
| 11:49.25 | Leeds | eye69: although I'd assume you can actually read Swedish to a useful level - unlike me and Hebrew :-) |
| 11:49.51 | eye69 | Sure, but I despise Swedish in computers. |
| 11:50.05 | eye69 | I can't stand the stupid translations. |
| 11:50.33 | eye69 | Leeds: Well, now you're forced to learn. :) |
| 11:51.46 | Leeds | eye69: my Hebrew is already noticably better - my reading is quicker, and so on, than it was on Saturday |
| 11:51.58 | Leeds | little things like buying a road atlas in Hebrew, not English, helps |
| 11:53.16 | eye69 | I guess there's no problem getting by with English over there. |
| 11:53.29 | lockige | there's something very satisfying about cracking different alphabets, even if it's just looking at shop signs and feeling smug |
| 11:53.45 | eye69 | We have just three more characters. |
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| 11:54.09 | Leeds | eye69: it depends where and with what... in the big cities, it's easy... in little places, things like TV/radio, it's not so easy - you can get by, but you'd be missing most of the country |
| 11:54.21 | Leeds | of course, you'd have to learn Arabic to get the whole experience... |
| 11:55.50 | Leeds | lockige: so are you planning to come to the meeting this week? |
| 12:00.32 | Leeds | ah! |
| 12:00.40 | Leeds | Saturday afternoon... |
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| 12:00.54 | Leeds | Fotango |
| 12:01.02 | Leeds | http://www.gllug.org.uk/meeting-20050312.html for details |
| 12:01.05 | Leeds | afternoon THP |
| 12:01.06 | lockige | cheers |
| 12:01.16 | Leeds | I won't be able to make it... :-0 |
| 12:01.25 | wethrin | 'ello |
| 12:01.45 | THP | Ellol. |
| 12:02.29 | lockige | Leeds: it's a possible, old street's easy for me, but we'll see |
| 12:03.26 | Leeds | lockige: it should be a good 'un - good lineup, new location for us - I'd try to make it if you're not already busy... unless, of course, you wandered in here by accident and are wondering what our penguin fixation is ;-) |
| 12:05.24 | lockige | hehe. nah i am a linux user in greater london, so i guess i qualify. i'll see what happens, i should really be doing research saturday afternoon but my geek side often snares me in the end. |
| 12:05.44 | wethrin | What type of research? |
| 12:05.48 | Leeds | gllug is research! well... depends on what sort of research :-) |
| 12:06.29 | Leeds | lockige: meet wethrin, our local phd student... |
| 12:06.52 | wethrin | Hello! |
| 12:06.54 | lockige | Hello! |
| 12:06.57 | wethrin | I'm not local, though |
| 12:07.09 | Leeds | virtually local... you're a lot more local than I am, right now :-) |
| 12:07.17 | lockige | how foreign is not local? |
| 12:07.59 | THP | Kidderminster. |
| 12:08.10 | wethrin | That's almost a different country! |
| 12:08.21 | lockige | the dialect is quite thick, how do you get by? |
| 12:08.29 | THP | They not be from around here, &tc |
| 12:08.58 | lockige | what are you PhDing, wethrin? |
| 12:09.42 | wethrin | Organic electronic devices |
| 12:10.34 | eye69 | Mold on keyboards? |
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| 12:11.22 | THP | trapped mice in printers? |
| 12:11.35 | Leeds | cyborgs |
| 12:11.51 | Leeds | wangwang: you're multiplying |
| 12:12.03 | wangwang | hmm |
| 12:12.15 | wangwang | lockige be having x-chat problems |
| 12:12.20 | wangwang | brb |
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| 12:12.41 | lockige | that feels better |
| 12:14.13 | wethrin | What leeds said |
| 12:14.44 | Leeds | wethrin: really cyborgs? I was joking :-) |
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| 12:15.20 | wethrin | Well, not quite yet :) |
| 12:15.29 | wethrin | But closer than the others |
| 12:15.37 | lockige | :) |
| 12:15.39 | Leeds | you and whatsisname at Warwick |
| 12:15.50 | wethrin | Kevin Reading at Warwick? |
| 12:15.56 | wethrin | ITYM Kevin Warwick at Reading |
| 12:15.56 | Leeds | yeah |
| 12:16.18 | Leeds | both of them :-) |
| 12:16.47 | Leeds | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hereford/worcs/4332421.stm and people think Israel is dangerous |
| 12:17.25 | lockige | eek! don't link things like that, my brother left for thailand last week ;) |
| 12:17.46 | Leeds | my parents and sisters are off there next week |
| 12:18.52 | Leeds | anyway... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4299609.stm - I was just up the beach from there yesterday... |
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| 12:35.19 | rhowe | Bruce Willis tells his daughter's dates that he'll murder them if they misbehave! http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1312207.html |
| 12:35.47 | Leeds | that's because he's a Real Man [TM] |
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| 12:36.40 | jason_ukfsn | hello all |
| 12:36.53 | Leeds | hi jason_ukfsn, long time no see (here) |
| 12:38.12 | jason_ukfsn | for most people it's long time no see me anywhere :( |
| 12:38.45 | Leeds | yeah, you just been busy? |
| 12:39.30 | jason_ukfsn | I've taken over the role of primary parent now that the wife's started as a student nurse and I'm expanding my own work too. |
| 12:39.42 | jason_ukfsn | About to launch a voip service |
| 12:41.52 | jason_ukfsn | LOL! I've just heard an advert for a new feature in The Times - Need to Know (NTK). I wonder if they realise that there is already a well known publication under that name :) |
| 12:42.12 | Leeds | heh... I wonder if they registered it anywhere |
| 12:42.13 | lockige | haha! |
| 12:42.47 | lockige | "Registered at the Post Office as MMMMurdoch" |
| 12:42.56 | Leeds | lol |
| 12:45.57 | rhowe | jason_ukfsn: How's the VoIP going? |
| 12:46.23 | rhowe | jason_ukfsn: Do you guarantee 999 availability, out of interest? :) |
| 12:55.06 | jason_ukfsn | rhowe, VoIP is getting there. I'll have an initial offering ready in a week or so. |
| 12:55.30 | Leeds | jason_ukfsn: what sort of service? |
| 12:56.26 | jason_ukfsn | The service is a white label'd service from gradwell so it will be pretty much the same as theirs although I'll be setting the pricing |
| 13:01.00 | Leeds | don't suppose anyone here has easy access to IE? |
| 13:01.19 | rhowe | Leeds: Yup, as a matter of fact, I do :) |
| 13:01.28 | lockige | erm i can do the "display as IE" option in the netscape beta? |
| 13:02.04 | rhowe | IE 6.0.2800.1106 |
| 13:02.07 | Leeds | rhowe: can you go to www.amdocs.com, click on careers, choose Israel, then choose the "Unix Expert" in Raanana and see what happens? I just get a blank page up |
| 13:02.44 | rhowe | #30907? |
| 13:02.56 | Leeds | yeah |
| 13:03.03 | rhowe | http://www.amdocs.com/ShowJob.asp?job_div=DescriptionDiv30907 |
| 13:03.09 | rhowe | It pops that URL up in a window |
| 13:03.13 | Leeds | only that the job title sounds appropriate, and I can almost see the building out the window here :-) |
| 13:03.32 | rhowe | It's a HP-UX job, involving HA stuff |
| 13:03.41 | Leeds | argh, still a blank window... |
| 13:03.50 | rhowe | heh, I can paste - it's not so long |
| 13:03.56 | Leeds | stupid fuckers, advertising for unix people on a site which only works in windows |
| 13:05.18 | jason_ukfsn | maybe you could send them an application in a format that is only visible on a free software platform :) |
| 13:05.39 | Leeds | I might just go into their office, I suppose |
| 13:10.40 | jason_ukfsn | jsut think though Leeds - how would you feel having to us Exchange for your work email? ;) |
| 13:11.16 | Leeds | if it did IMAP, I could live with it... otherwise, I suppose I'd have to use evolution |
| 13:11.34 | jason_ukfsn | that's assuming their desktop policy allows you to |
| 13:11.50 | Leeds | I don't do no stinking desktop policy |
| 13:12.05 | Leeds | oh crap, my firefox has gone catatonic |
| 13:13.38 | Leeds | ah, killall -9 |
| 13:29.23 | Leeds | not so much |
| 13:45.21 | jason_ukfsn | LOL - I wonder whether Leeds will not now find himself subject to investigation as a prospective terrorist :) |
| 14:03.10 | JAV | afternoon |
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| 14:16.38 | wethrin | Heh |
| 14:19.45 | jason_ukfsn | oh dear. I need to spend a few hours fighting with 15 months of supplier billing errors! |
| 14:19.51 | jason_ukfsn | have fun folks! |
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| 15:59.49 | pawel | hi guys. |
| 16:01.41 | pawel | oh, a meeting is comming. |
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| 16:08.30 | pdr | laters |
| 16:12.43 | edward | http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000470035164/ <-- Linus has switched to a Mac |
| 16:15.57 | pawel | cool, ibook or pb are worth switching. |
| 16:25.22 | itsbruce | Obviously, he installed Linux on it |
| 16:25.53 | itsbruce | All the best people do |
| 16:28.47 | wethrin | I disagree :) |
| 16:31.19 | itsbruce | wethrin: Obviously, you're not one of the best people, so your judgement is flawed |
| 16:31.21 | rhowe | In just over an hour, I have something that parses text files and builds an array of classes representing the contents |
| 16:31.34 | rhowe | Now I just need to get it to email them :P |
| 16:32.02 | itsbruce | Dean's a big Ruby fan but I'm not sure it'll ever escape a small niche. |
| 16:32.17 | itsbruce | Which says nothing about its quality, mind you. |
| 16:32.20 | wethrin | itsbruce: Bah |
| 16:32.28 | rhowe | Heh, my code isn't an exercise in quality :) |
| 16:32.35 | rhowe | It's messy (but then parsing usually is) |
| 16:33.04 | rhowe | Still, it was suprisingly easy to do what I wanted. Now I just need to get the data wrapped up as an email |
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| 18:45.36 | pawel | wethrin: I've ordered an ibook recently and waiting... :) |
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| 18:50.46 | pawel | :> |
| 18:50.57 | pawel | router updates. |
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| 19:08.22 | pawel | :> |
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| 19:09.14 | pawel | Leeds: hi. :> |
| 19:09.24 | Leeds | hi |
| 19:10.21 | pawel | how are you doing? |
| 19:11.18 | Leeds | alright - been to a very disappointing LUG meeting this evening, about to go and get some food |
| 19:12.17 | pawel | Leeds: what meeting? where? |
| 19:12.23 | Leeds | Jerusalem |
| 19:14.32 | pawel | oh. so why was it disappointing? |
| 19:14.59 | pawel | I presume you're in Israel. |
| 19:16.02 | Leeds | um, yeah... hence being in Jerusalem... |
| 19:16.17 | Leeds | half-decent talk, even if it was in Hebrew so I couldn't understand most of it... |
| 19:16.32 | Leeds | very few people - around 11, depending on whether everyone in the room was there for the meeting... |
| 19:17.24 | Leeds | and apart from being invited to sit down, no-one said a word to me - in Hebrew or English... I would hope that if an obvious foreigner turned up at gllug looking lost, they'd be invited in and made to feel welcome... and I have been made to feel welcome at LUG meetings elsewhere in the past |
| 19:18.02 | pawel | heh. :/ |
| 19:19.28 | Leeds | so now I'm sitting in an expensive hotel - I felt like some luxury for one night, about to go find some food by myself... |
| 19:20.00 | Leeds | I was sort of expecting the usual post-LUG food/drink session |
| 19:24.58 | pawel | I'm waiting for my first Mac. :) |
| 19:28.13 | Leeds | bah, I'm going for a walk... this wifi is too slow to be fun |
| 19:29.44 | pawel | fuck. |
| 19:30.04 | pawel | I can't access o2 web page from firefox.. |
| 19:30.16 | pawel | this is very stupid. |
| 19:30.31 | Leeds | works for me |
| 19:30.45 | Leeds | quick, talk to me before I leave :-) |
| 19:30.48 | pawel | http://www.o2.co.uk/browserupgradeNetscape.html |
| 19:30.59 | pawel | Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050302 Firefox/1.0.1 Fedora/1.0.1-1.3.2 |
| 19:31.00 | Leeds | which page are you trying to get to |
| 19:31.15 | pawel | http://www.o2.co.uk/help |
| 19:31.36 | pawel | look at the link which I gave you first. |
| 19:31.39 | Leeds | I can see that page just fine |
| 19:31.47 | pawel | that's where I'm redirected. |
| 19:31.55 | Leeds | they've not redirected me |
| 19:32.32 | pawel | fuck. I've been using o2 web page without problems for ages, I've got phone from them. |
| 19:32.42 | Leeds | Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0 |
| 19:32.55 | Leeds | yes, I know I'm behind |
| 19:33.23 | pawel | wired. |
| 19:33.32 | Leeds | wired? oh... weird :-) |
| 19:33.53 | pawel | oh... yes. |
| 19:33.54 | pawel | :) |
| 19:34.29 | pawel | give me the link then to thier email form, I want to make a complain. |
| 19:34.41 | pawel | from that help page. |
| 19:34.52 | pawel | I can't access it. let me try links. :> |
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| 19:35.12 | pawel | heh. it works with links. |
| 19:35.23 | Leeds | heh |
| 19:35.41 | Leeds | anyway, I'm out of here |
| 19:36.55 | pawel | see you. I'm starting to dislike them. |
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| 21:49.19 | Leeds | I had kebab-meatballs, followed by chicken teriyaki, in a cafe on what used to be one of the livliest streets in Jerusalem... of course, it's March, a little chilly, and I went out quite late... |
| 21:50.13 | Leeds | the cafe is part of the Jerusalem municipal free wifi initiative - there was a bloke sitting next to me, feet up on a chair, having a nice dinner while messing around on his powerbook, which was happily plugged into the wall :-) |
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| 22:02.15 | Leeds | ouch! |
| 22:02.22 | Leeds | oh, it, not me |
| 22:03.05 | AngelChild | :o |
| 22:03.14 | Leeds | anyway, so you're better? |
| 22:04.23 | AngelChild | yes, although i'm taking antibiotics :) |
| 22:04.28 | AngelChild | in case i have lyme disease o// |
| 22:04.46 | Leeds | oops |
| 22:05.18 | AngelChild | yeah well |
| 22:05.22 | AngelChild | it appears to make me hyper |
| 22:05.23 | AngelChild | so :) |
| 22:05.44 | Leeds | wall-bouncingly so? |
| 22:07.12 | AngelChild | yupyup |
| 22:07.13 | AngelChild | except |
| 22:07.20 | AngelChild | when my friends are around acting like a couple |
| 22:07.23 | AngelChild | gits :| |
| 22:07.29 | AngelChild | it's okay for like, an hour, then it just gets old |
| 22:07.54 | Leeds | yeah, we all feel that way |
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