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| 01:26.11 | jonmasters | Anyone seen Richard lately? |
| 08:02.33 | eye69 | Morning. |
| 08:21.01 | mozrat | morning |
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| 09:06.14 | Leeds | morsing! |
| 09:18.19 | morsing | Leeds! *cough* |
| 09:26.10 | Leeds | morsing: still/again? |
| 09:27.39 | morsing | Still. Third week running |
| 09:27.49 | Leeds | argh |
| 09:28.14 | morsing | How's Isreal? When's your house warming? |
| 09:30.17 | Leeds | http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/550137.html :-) |
| 09:30.24 | Leeds | Israel, not Isreal |
| 09:30.43 | Leeds | it's... cloudy today in Jerusalem... |
| 09:31.54 | Leeds | (that link is a story about the Jewish Agency - the activist arm of the zionist movement, and an Israeli government agency - reaching out to Western Jews to immigrate, particularly focussing on the work situation - their office is just a few minutes walk away from where I am now, so I might pop in :-) ) |
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| 09:51.07 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:51.17 | morsing | Coming home? |
| 09:53.26 | Leeds | oh, no, just leaving this hotel |
| 09:55.38 | Leeds | by noon, so about now... |
| 10:04.50 | edward | the Python London Meetup was good! |
| 10:05.07 | rhowe | Damn, had an interesting URL for Leeds. Apparently type 1 diabetes has been cured - http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200503/s1320016.htm |
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| 11:05.24 | edward | http://gallery.edwardbetts.co.uk/gallery/2005-03-09_python <-- photos of the python london meetup |
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| 11:10.25 | pdr | moin |
| 12:03.53 | wethrin | morning |
| 12:46.17 | gregj | dobry |
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| 13:29.56 | pdr | quiet today |
| 13:30.07 | wethrin | yeah |
| 13:30.13 | pdr | no Leeds |
| 13:30.42 | wethrin | true |
| 13:31.19 | morsing | Mmm... NIM |
| 13:31.34 | morsing | wethrin! I have a question for you |
| 13:32.15 | wethrin | Oh dear |
| 13:33.49 | clyphox | hehe |
| 13:35.03 | wethrin | Shoot |
| 13:45.06 | clyphox | I've had 3 popups with firefox now! :-( |
| 13:45.21 | morsing | My newly installed FBSD 5.3 constantly insert a host route to the gateway which breaks all connectivity. Why? |
| 13:47.52 | morsing | wethrin? |
| 13:49.07 | rhowe | morsing: Response from FBSD people I've spoken to is "5.x is developmental, use 4.x for production boxen", which somewhat undermines the whole 5.3-RELEASE tag |
| 13:49.27 | wethrin | RELEASE != STABLE |
| 13:49.51 | rhowe | Ah, that'd explain quite a bit |
| 13:50.15 | wethrin | How does it do that, though? Surely it'd put a default route in? |
| 13:59.33 | wethrin | 4.x-STABLE is the rock-solid production branch |
| 13:59.44 | pdr | nym! |
| 13:59.57 | pdr | ubuntu hoary preview was just released |
| 14:00.13 | wethrin | 5.x-RELEASE is the official release for the current version; best for workstations |
| 14:00.18 | wethrin | and then there's 5.x-CURRENT |
| 14:02.10 | clyphox | met one of their employees last week funnily :-) |
| 14:02.24 | pdr | clyphox: which one? |
| 14:02.32 | pdr | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/releases/5.04/preview/ |
| 14:02.46 | pdr | jigdo's are there |
| 14:03.14 | clyphox | I have no access to anything cool at work :-( |
| 14:03.23 | rhowe | wethrin: Hm, you've played with software RAID on FBSD< no? |
| 14:03.30 | rhowe | grr, 'phone |
| 14:03.46 | clyphox | trying to get something booting off my usb flash, thats all I can survive with methinks |
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| 14:10.34 | wethrin | rhowe: Yes |
| 14:11.53 | rhowe | wethrin: I'm planning to set up a two disk mirror, using software RAID and two hotplug SCA drives. Do you think I'll find it rewarding or painful? |
| 14:12.04 | rhowe | wethrin: I'm assuming this vinum thing is what I'll be using to do it |
| 14:12.19 | wethrin | rhowe: Yes |
| 14:12.35 | wethrin | And it worked fine for me |
| 14:12.46 | wethrin | Although the hot-swapping itself may be a little painful |
| 14:12.49 | rhowe | And I won't have to run 5.x to get something usable? |
| 14:13.27 | rhowe | wethrin: hotswap seems to work OK, SCSI-wise. I can run camcontrol commands to make it find the drive again after it's been put back in, and I've pulled the drive, put it back in and been able to use it again without a reboot |
| 14:13.29 | wethrin | I've not tried it under 4.x |
| 14:13.39 | wethrin | rhowe: Then you'll be fine |
| 14:14.08 | rhowe | wethrin: Good. I just need to find another drive now then :) |
| 14:14.08 | wethrin | You just need to twiddle vinum appropriately |
| 14:14.08 | rhowe | (and order another hotswap bay) |
| 14:14.17 | rhowe | wethrin: There's stuff in the handbook about vinum, so I'm hoping it's reasonably documented at least |
| 14:17.24 | clyphox | OT : anyone know a nice flatshare in london btw? I'm looking |
| 14:18.39 | morsing | wethrin: So what's the answer? |
| 14:20.02 | wethrin | rhowe: It's quite well documented. However, it doesn't have a *basic* introduction |
| 14:20.06 | wethrin | morsing: I'm not sure |
| 14:20.40 | morsing | :-( |
| 14:22.10 | wethrin | Sorry |
| 14:22.20 | wethrin | Is there something in the init files that causes it? |
| 14:25.06 | rhowe | wethrin: That's OK. I'm familiar with the concepts, and I've used LVM in Linux before |
| 14:25.21 | rhowe | clyphox: http://www.moveflat.com/ has treated me well |
| 14:25.59 | wethrin | rhowe: Yeah, but the terminology I think is a bit weird |
| 14:26.06 | morsing | rhowe: Watchs out for pvmove ;-) |
| 14:26.12 | rhowe | morsing: :) |
| 14:26.27 | rhowe | clyphox: There's also ukrooms (use Google) - I used to chat the the girl that ran ukrooms, but I always preferred moveflat :) |
| 14:26.57 | rhowe | wethrin: When you start trying to abstract the kind of stuff that software RAID and LVM does, things do get pretty weird.. :) |
| 14:27.01 | wethrin | Yeah |
| 14:27.05 | rhowe | wethrin: Just look at device-mapper in Linux, for example :) |
| 14:27.20 | wethrin | vinum logical drives map onto physical /dev entries |
| 14:27.21 | rhowe | Hm.. I just thought.. |
| 14:27.28 | wethrin | subdisks are placed on logical drives |
| 14:27.35 | wethrin | plexes are built from one or more subdisks |
| 14:27.41 | wethrin | and volumes are made from at least one plex |
| 14:27.43 | clyphox | rhowe: moveflat rocks :-) thats where i got my last place.. |
| 14:27.43 | rhowe | You could use device-mapper, together with the loopback filesystem stuff to perform simple format conversion for files :) |
| 14:27.53 | wethrin | volumes then present a /dev/vinum/<volname> when running |
| 14:27.54 | clyphox | fun :-) |
| 14:27.54 | wethrin | :) |
| 14:28.12 | rhowe | wethrin: heh, yeah. It's the same as LVM with different words at every stage :) |
| 14:28.17 | wethrin | Indeed |
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| 14:32.21 | clyphox | wb |
| 14:33.33 | AngelChild | ty |
| 14:34.00 | clyphox | :-) |
| 14:47.14 | pdr | should be fun |
| 14:47.19 | pdr | anyone else gone yet? |
| 14:47.25 | wethrin | Nope |
| 14:47.54 | pdr | wethrin: why not? |
| 14:48.02 | wethrin | I'm on the wrong side of the country? |
| 14:48.07 | pdr | oh |
| 14:48.16 | wethrin | And I don't have my own home |
| 14:50.43 | pdr | fair enough |
| 14:50.53 | pdr | you're staying in a college are you? |
| 14:50.59 | wethrin | I am |
| 14:55.52 | morsing | Moo |
| 14:56.07 | wethrin | ooM |
| 14:57.18 | clyphox | I wanna humble flatshare first hehe |
| 14:57.41 | wethrin | Mmm |
| 14:57.55 | morsing | * pci14 20-63 PCI Bus |
| 15:00.30 | morsing | 0513-044 The IBM.CSMAgentRM Subsystem was requested to stop. |
| 15:22.38 | morsing | wethrin? |
| 15:23.23 | wethrin | Yes? |
| 15:23.31 | morsing | What are you doing? |
| 15:24.14 | wethrin | Measuring transistor characteristics |
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| 16:35.02 | mozrat-pl | Hello chaps |
| 16:37.22 | mozrat-pl | foo |
| 16:37.26 | mozrat-pl | ufo ping |
| 16:37.39 | ufo | pong |
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| 16:44.31 | morsing | Mmm... |
| 16:49.00 | wethrin | Say hi |
| 16:51.56 | morsing | ibot ufo |
| 16:52.13 | ufo | hi |
| 16:52.19 | mozrat-pl | ibot ufo is Marcin |
| 16:52.20 | ibot | mozrat-pl: okay |
| 16:52.39 | ufo | ibot: I'm Marcin |
| 16:52.40 | ufo | ;] |
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| 17:08.25 | ufo | 12[ 10mozrat-pl!~sm@80.68.89.215 12] jfjfj |
| 17:20.10 | mozrat-pl | http://www.chaser.com.au/show_story.asp?ID=638&ED=68&CAT=6&NAME=diaz |
| 17:26.02 | rhowe | hm.. I wonder how this could be interpreted "Operating system support on all standard, non-proprietary operating systems." |
| 17:26.41 | rhowe | How many standard non-proprietary OSes can you name? :) |
| 17:26.53 | wethrin | *BSD |
| 17:27.17 | wethrin | Anyway. Hometime! |
| 17:27.18 | wethrin | bye |
| 17:27.21 | rhowe | *BSD is a standard OS, but it also doesn't exist :) |
| 17:27.23 | mozrat-pl | bye wethrin |
| 17:27.46 | rhowe | There are multiple interpretations of '*BSD' around, but I don't know if you could call any one a 'standard' :) |
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| 19:42.07 | mozrat-pl | wassup Bob |
| 19:42.18 | BobtheAvenger | hey |
| 19:42.33 | BobtheAvenger | how are you? |
| 19:47.37 | mozrat-pl | good thanks |
| 19:49.58 | BobtheAvenger | good good |
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| 20:11.55 | BobtheAvenger | hey leeds |
| 20:12.02 | pawel | Leeds: :> |
| 20:12.05 | Leeds | BobtheAvenger: erev tov |
| 20:12.07 | Leeds | pawel: hi |
| 20:12.31 | BobtheAvenger | leeds:??? |
| 20:12.40 | Leeds | BobtheAvenger: ma? |
| 20:12.49 | Leeds | BobtheAvenger: ata lo mavin ivrit? |
| 20:13.32 | Leeds | BobtheAvenger: don't you understand (transliterated) Hebrew? |
| 20:13.48 | BobtheAvenger | no |
| 20:14.15 | Leeds | well that would explain why my saying "good evening" in Hebrew consiu |
| 20:14.16 | BobtheAvenger | its on my to do list |
| 20:14.20 | Leeds | confused you ;-) |
| 20:14.33 | Leeds | it's getting pretty high up my list... |
| 20:14.58 | BobtheAvenger | i still got little things like getting tho GCSEs to do |
| 20:15.08 | Leeds | there is a GCSE in Hebrew :-) |
| 20:15.45 | BobtheAvenger | if i'm gonna fail my GCSEs at the moment then adding another wont help |
| 20:16.26 | Leeds | heh |
| 20:16.51 | BobtheAvenger | its not a joke |
| 20:17.21 | George | foo |
| 20:17.31 | BobtheAvenger | foo your self george |
| 20:18.24 | BobtheAvenger | at least i know what'll happen |
| 20:18.49 | George | ? |
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| 20:19.30 | Leeds | BobtheAvenger: I honestly and seriously don't believe, from what I've seen of you here, that you're dumb enough to fail |
| 20:19.57 | Leeds | bah... don't you hate it when you're writing something sensitive and helpful and the person quits while you're typing? :-) |
| 20:20.02 | George | lol |
| 20:21.18 | George | http://zaverio.net/laptop/legnatile/tn/10l.jpg.htmlhttp://zaverio.net/laptop/legnatile/tn/10l.jpg.html |
| 20:21.21 | George | woops |
| 20:21.23 | George | http://zaverio.net/laptop/legnatile/tn/10l.jpg.html |
| 20:21.48 | Leeds | heh |
| 20:21.57 | AngelChild | bob's still online |
| 20:22.50 | Leeds | AngelChild: yeah, I know - but I'm not sensitive enough or helpful enough to chase him... |
| 20:23.22 | George | lol |
| 20:23.29 | George | you're just not man enough |
| 20:23.43 | Leeds | I should go wake my host up and demand dinner... I was out at a bar with other friends, and he was als |
| 20:23.50 | Leeds | asleep on the sofa when I came in :-) |
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| 20:44.51 | pawel | blah. |
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| 21:02.38 | mozrat-pl | George! |
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| 21:15.25 | Marios_ | hello ! |
| 21:15.46 | clyphox | re |
| 21:16.08 | Marios_ | Hello Clyphox |
| 21:18.50 | Marios_ | Leeds? |
| 21:30.07 | Leeds | Marios_: hi |
| 21:51.45 | Marios_ | Leeds: How is it going? |
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| 21:55.35 | mozrat-pl | hey AngelChild |
| 21:55.42 | AngelChild | hi |
| 21:58.11 | Leeds | going pretty well, considering... |
| 22:01.01 | Marios_ | are you going to Israel soon ? |
| 22:02.55 | Leeds | I'm in Israel now! :-) |
| 22:03.07 | Marios_ | really ? |
| 22:03.14 | Marios_ | lol |
| 22:03.21 | Marios_ | just saw your host |
| 22:03.23 | Leeds | been here since Sunday morning |
| 22:03.23 | Marios_ | :) |
| 22:03.27 | Marios_ | cool |
| 22:03.30 | Marios_ | what city ? |
| 22:06.29 | Leeds | right now, Ra'anana |
| 22:06.44 | Marios_ | do you have family there? |
| 22:06.49 | Leeds | last night I was in Jerusalem, and this evening, I was in Tel Aviv |
| 22:07.42 | Marios_ | nice |
| 22:07.56 | Leeds | I'm staying with a friend here - I met him online a couple of years ago, but we never spoke until a few weeks ago, playing with skype, and we never met until I arrived here on Sunday :-) |
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| 22:08.14 | Marios_ | sweet |
| 22:08.25 | Marios_ | are you planning to come back? |
| 22:09.07 | Leeds | in Jerusalem, I went to a LUG meeting... then went and did a little nostalgia tour, tried to speak to the Jewish Agency about moving here, but they were closed... they are the active arm of the zionist movement, and an Israeli government agency |
| 22:09.51 | Leeds | in Tel Aviv, I met up with an old friend (distant relation) and went to a bar with a group from his work - a leaving do - an interesting, if a little strange, group |
| 22:09.52 | Marios_ | sounds like a good plan |
| 22:10.09 | Marios_ | :) |
| 22:10.19 | Marios_ | how are the job prospects there? |
| 22:10.37 | Leeds | pretty good, people keep telling me |
| 22:10.49 | Marios_ | good ! |
| 22:11.14 | Marios_ | join Sun.il ;) |
| 22:11.31 | Leeds | nope, don't think so |
| 22:11.38 | Marios_ | hehehhe |
| 22:12.07 | Marios_ | go for a cruise in Cyprus :) |
| 22:12.35 | Leeds | nah... |
| 22:12.42 | Leeds | although I've never been... |
| 22:12.49 | Marios_ | you should go... |
| 22:12.54 | Marios_ | nice girls there ;) |
| 22:13.34 | Leeds | nice girls here :-) |
| 22:13.47 | Marios_ | lol |
| 22:13.49 | Leeds | and - it matters to me - nice Jewish girls here :-) |
| 22:13.56 | Marios_ | true |
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| 22:18.12 | Leeds | at the moment, I'm leaning comfortably towards coming back here to stay - at least with a 3-year working visa, if not citizenship |
| 22:20.56 | Marios_ | is it easy migrating there? |
| 22:22.11 | Leeds | legally? for me, it's very easy... anyone with one Jewish grandparent (and I have/had 4) and who can prove it has pretty much an automatic right to Israeli citizenship, complete with a bunch of extra benefits for being an immigrant... |
| 22:22.40 | Marios_ | nice country ;) |
| 22:23.37 | Leeds | the only exceptions are things like criminals trying to escape justice, active converts away from Judaism, and so on - if you have a Jewish grandparent but were raised non-Jewish, that's one thing, but if you were raised Jewish and rejected it, it's another |
| 22:24.13 | Leeds | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Return |
| 22:24.26 | Marios_ | how can they prove all these things? |
| 22:24.51 | Marios_ | I mean it is hard to prove that you are/aren't active Jew |
| 22:25.13 | Leeds | it's not about being active or inactive as a Jew - it's about being active as a non-Jew |
| 22:25.23 | Leeds | I'm thinking of one particular case... let me look it up |
| 22:25.43 | Marios_ | k |
| 22:30.56 | Leeds | http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/twersky080598.html |
| 22:32.09 | Leeds | strange story |
| 22:35.06 | Leeds | it's actually the first time I've read the full story like that |
| 22:35.21 | Marios_ | let me reaD |
| 22:39.37 | Marios_ | weird |
| 22:40.07 | Leeds | it's worth reading the text of the law, as linked from the wikipedia article, at the Israeli parliament site - makes it clearer what the terms are |
| 22:40.42 | Leeds | http://www.adl.org/Israel/Conversion/testing-principles.asp also has some interesting points - places where the law has been tested by the Israeli Supreme Court |
| 22:40.45 | Marios_ | i took a lott there |
| 22:40.47 | Marios_ | look |
| 22:41.50 | Marios_ | so if you move there permanetly...are you first coming back here to pick your stuff? |
| 22:42.32 | Leeds | absolutely |
| 22:42.46 | Marios_ | well let's meet that time |
| 22:42.47 | Leeds | I have absolutely no intention of just staying now... |
| 22:43.02 | Marios_ | cause we haven't meet yet |
| 22:43.06 | Leeds | if nothing else - apparently the process of immigration is much easier if you start it abroad :-) |
| 22:43.20 | Marios_ | I was busy with looking for job...and arrange my stuff here |
| 22:43.26 | Leeds | well, you need to come to a meeting, GLLUG or Lonix, unless we just meet for a drink sometime :-) |
| 22:43.29 | Marios_ | so now I am free |
| 22:43.35 | Marios_ | yeah |
| 22:44.00 | Leeds | there was Lonix last week - I was there, you weren't... |
| 22:44.10 | Leeds | there is GLLUG this week - I'm a bit far away... |
| 22:44.20 | Leeds | at least, I assume you weren't at Lonix |
| 22:44.51 | Marios_ | no i didn't go |
| 22:44.57 | Leeds | why not??? |
| 22:45.05 | Marios_ | I have things to do cause Sunday i am going in NY |
| 22:45.24 | Marios_ | we had to arrange agenda of exactly what to do there |
| 22:46.06 | Leeds | going for a holiday? are you going to gllug then> |
| 22:46.07 | Leeds | ? |
| 22:46.22 | Marios_ | not holiday... |
| 22:46.35 | Marios_ | I am going in the headquarters of the bank |
| 22:47.03 | Leeds | going to rob a bank??? |
| 22:47.47 | Marios_ | lol |
| 22:47.56 | Marios_ | I told you I work for bank of america |
| 22:49.14 | Leeds | possibly :-) |
| 22:50.17 | Marios_ | :) |
| 22:50.33 | Marios_ | so I am going there to meet some people and get training |
| 22:50.42 | Leeds | cool |
| 22:50.46 | Leeds | chilly |
| 22:51.31 | Marios_ | :) |
| 22:54.25 | Leeds | ibot convert 1 gallon to liters |
| 22:54.31 | Leeds | ibot change 2 usd to gbp |
| 22:54.50 | Leeds | ibot 1.04059 / 3.78534 |
| 22:54.51 | ibot | 0.274900008982 |
| 22:55.11 | Leeds | so petrol has hit 27.5p per litre in the US, and it's headline news! |
| 22:55.36 | Leeds | only about 3 times more in the UK |
| 22:55.49 | Leeds | or rather 3 times as much |
| 22:55.52 | Marios_ | hahahahahah |
| 22:56.02 | Marios_ | gas is very cheap there |
| 23:08.10 | Marios_ | Leeds: are you still there? |
| 23:08.16 | Leeds | yes |
| 23:08.32 | Marios_ | why I can't find a descend stationery shop in London? |
| 23:08.49 | Marios_ | am I asking for too much? |
| 23:09.54 | rhowe | Anyone watching Question Time? It's quite interesting. All part of the BBC's china week |
| 23:10.01 | rhowe | Leeds: Did you get my message via ibot? |
| 23:10.42 | Leeds | rhowe: yes |
| 23:15.21 | rhowe | Question Time is in Shanghai this week |
| 23:15.23 | rhowe | Fascinating |
| 23:18.14 | Leeds | sounds it... I'll have to rely on the tivo :-) or just download it... |
| 23:18.48 | rhowe | Yeah, I'm hoping uknova will carry it. Sarah should probably watch this |
| 23:19.05 | Leeds | so, I've just been speaking to my dad on the phone, and there was a strange plink plink noise on the line... I think I was holding the phone too hard to my face, pressing one of the buttons, until I overloaded something and the phone crashed :-) |
| 23:19.09 | rhowe | They just covered the founding of Amnesty International |
| 23:19.18 | Leeds | after the founder just died |
| 23:19.27 | rhowe | yeah? |
| 23:19.40 | Leeds | last week, week before... natural death |
| 23:19.41 | rhowe | Leeds: The plink plink is Mossad :) |
| 23:19.59 | Leeds | I think they're a little more subtle |
| 23:20.10 | rhowe | Ah, no, Mossad being the leaders in 'phone tapping, they've probably got around plink plinks :) |
| 23:20.22 | rhowe | There's a Mossad front company which is the |
| 23:20.34 | rhowe | #1 'phone tapping equipment company worldwide, apparently :) |
| 23:21.00 | rhowe | Supplying most of the west's intelligence services etc :) |
| 23:21.01 | Leeds | I *have* heard people working in Bejing saying they can sometimes hear noises on the line :-) |
| 23:21.23 | rhowe | Leeds: Heh, hard to say whether that's a tap or just the Beijing lines :) |
| 23:21.49 | rhowe | Leeds: The best one I heard of was the guy I chat to online who works for Boeing talking about France.. did I tell you about what happens to laptops in France? |
| 23:25.19 | rhowe | hm, uknova.com don't seem to carry episodes of Question Time :/ |
| 23:41.36 | rhowe | http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/progs/question_time/latest.ram |
| 23:41.41 | rhowe | The BBC has a realplayer stream |
| 23:46.03 | *** join/#gllug axelS (~axelS@80-195-187-51.cable.ubr03.croy.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 23:46.31 | axelS | lo |
| 23:49.31 | AngelChild | huzzah, my iterative fibonacci function works first time, take that, recursion! |
| 23:59.29 | rhowe | fun fib 1 = 1 |
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