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07:30.25 | mozrat-pl | morning folks |
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07:51.35 | mozrat-pl | what-ho Leeds |
07:51.49 | Leeds | hey ho |
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08:14.52 | mozrat-pl | morsing morning |
08:14.58 | mozrat-pl | I mean, morning morsing |
08:17.37 | morsing | morning - Time for breakfast |
08:24.03 | George | blah |
08:25.08 | mozrat-pl | Morning Mr George |
08:25.13 | George | hi mozrat-pl |
08:25.29 | mozrat-pl | just read through my logs, that Blapto chap seemed ok |
08:25.37 | George | yeah |
08:25.43 | George | anyone else know what his name means? |
08:25.46 | George | :P |
08:25.51 | mozrat-pl | nope |
08:25.58 | George | heh |
08:26.01 | George | the joys of studying classical greek |
08:28.40 | mozrat-pl | indeed |
08:28.42 | Leeds | oowah... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/4344929.stm |
08:29.42 | mozrat-pl | hmmm |
08:29.59 | mozrat-pl | heavy handed. why couldn't the cabin staff take it off him and hold onto it? |
08:31.17 | George | Leeds: you're a diabetic? |
08:31.38 | Leeds | George: um... yeah... |
08:32.08 | Leeds | that's sort of what the whole 2-weeks-in-hospital-dangerous-illness thing was about last year |
08:38.40 | George | ok |
08:39.58 | George | right, this is boring |
08:54.11 | mozrat-pl | whats that? |
08:58.10 | murb | moin |
08:58.39 | mozrat-pl | hey murb |
09:00.04 | eye69 | Morning. |
09:08.54 | morsing | murb?! |
09:09.13 | murb | what? |
09:09.19 | murb | I've just back from skiing |
09:34.11 | morsing | And you *here*! |
09:40.32 | latz | helas all |
09:41.00 | Leeds | helas? |
09:43.37 | latz | helas=hi :) |
09:43.52 | latz | it's just something I normally say! |
09:43.52 | Leeds | where? :-) |
09:54.08 | latz | I've got a question concering regex! ... how would I find two matching search string in a line like this |
09:54.09 | latz | sys-libs/gpm-1.20.1-r4 |
09:54.10 | latz | sys-libs/ncurses-5.4-r5 |
09:54.10 | latz | sys-devel/bison-1.875d |
09:54.23 | latz | I want to get as a result let's say ncurses and bison |
09:54.55 | latz | I can't figure out how to do that with regex! .. I have no problem if it concerns only one line! but this concerns more lines! |
09:58.13 | Leeds | surely you're just searching for ncurses or bison then? |
09:59.42 | wethrin | Hi |
09:59.47 | wethrin | How did the meeting go on Saturday? |
10:02.06 | latz | Leeds, ehh nope I want to get as a result the entry of ncurses and bison! |
10:02.44 | latz | sys-libs/ncurses-5.4-r5 |
10:02.45 | latz | lsys-devel/bison-1.875d |
10:02.46 | Leeds | so aren't you just looking for things which match either bison or ncurses? |
10:02.57 | latz | yes! |
10:02.58 | latz | :) |
10:03.19 | Leeds | surely you're just searching for ncurses or bison then? |
10:03.38 | latz | ehh yeahh! sorry understood you wrong there! :) |
10:13.20 | latz | Leeds do you know how to do that? |
10:13.38 | latz | I need something like an "OR" .. |
10:13.45 | latz | that would be it already! |
10:20.57 | Leeds | doesn't something like (ncurses|bison) work? |
10:21.37 | wethrin | Leeds: Yes, if you're using egrep |
10:22.02 | latz | Leeds, nice! :) worked! |
10:22.15 | latz | well I didn't know that Alternative Regex thing yet! |
10:22.27 | latz | but now I know why it's there for! :P |
10:22.29 | latz | thx |
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10:23.53 | Leeds | pleasure |
10:24.11 | Leeds | watch it, love! |
10:24.24 | wethrin | Oooh! |
10:28.32 | AngelChild | :P |
10:28.40 | Leeds | :-) |
10:29.09 | Leeds | I think you'll find more is, um, more appropriate |
10:29.17 | wethrin | MORE LEEDS! |
10:29.34 | Leeds | although I would like there to be less Leeds |
10:32.18 | wethrin | Surely Leeds is a good thing |
10:32.41 | Leeds | yes, but less Leeds would be a better thing |
10:33.20 | wethrin | Is Leeds still in .il? |
10:33.39 | Leeds | yes |
10:34.24 | wethrin | Enjoying it? |
10:34.54 | Leeds | yes |
10:34.58 | Leeds | :-) |
10:36.00 | wethrin | Good good |
10:46.19 | morsing | Type the password or key: |
10:47.52 | wethrin | letmein |
10:48.10 | morsing | How's the weather up north? |
10:50.41 | wethrin | Nice and sunny |
11:25.11 | George | foodom. |
11:37.38 | mozrat-pl | Hello all |
11:41.05 | morsing | hello |
12:00.02 | wethrin | arr |
12:08.58 | mozrat-pl | wethrin the pirate :) |
12:09.02 | wethrin | Yarrr! |
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12:12.09 | mozrat-pl | hello SlayerXP & AngelChild |
12:12.13 | SlayerXP | lo |
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13:34.36 | mozrat-pl | Hmm, OK. Here's a starter for 10 |
13:34.43 | mozrat-pl | MS Excel 2003 |
13:34.46 | mozrat-pl | CSV files |
13:34.53 | mozrat-pl | comma seperated values |
13:35.04 | mozrat-pl | what character is the default seperator? |
13:35.12 | stephen | tab |
13:35.18 | mozrat-pl | semi-colon |
13:35.36 | stephen | bah |
13:35.46 | mozrat-pl | weird |
13:35.55 | George | heh, someone just said to me "who the fuck cares about quantum computing?" |
13:35.57 | George | "er... banks?" |
13:43.52 | wethrin | Physicists |
13:44.12 | rhowe | geeks |
13:44.33 | wethrin | Maybe real geeks |
13:44.45 | wethrin | Lots of "geeks" think the limit is having a plastic side on their case |
13:44.49 | rhowe | Cynical journalists |
13:45.01 | wethrin | :) |
13:45.57 | SlayerXP | people who want unbreakable encryption |
13:46.20 | rhowe | The NSA, but they won't say so |
13:47.41 | infodroid | no, K-Directorate have it already |
13:54.47 | JAV | afternoon |
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15:02.59 | wethrin | McLeeds! |
15:17.47 | rhowe | efont seems to be it, so far |
15:23.52 | wethrin | Don't use Unicode |
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15:46.38 | rhowe | wethrin: But Unicode is Cool™ |
15:50.34 | wethrin | Ewww |
15:50.53 | wethrin | I got "cool;a-hat;inverse-D;cent" |
15:51.10 | eye69 | I like Unicode. Would be nice if more people used it. |
15:52.11 | morsing | wethrin: Which one? |
15:58.58 | wethrin | Some Digimate 19" LCD |
16:00.48 | pawel | hi. |
16:01.19 | pawel | wethrin: I've ordered an ibook. :) |
16:01.24 | wethrin | Hurray! |
16:01.29 | wethrin | Eveyone's getting new toys! |
16:02.08 | pawel | I'm not sure if it's right. but have to try it -- the mac. |
16:06.09 | MacLeeds | well... that was a day in which I did almost nothing... |
16:06.21 | wethrin | mmm |
16:15.48 | edward | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lincolnshire/4346751.stm <-- the shoes brigade strike! |
16:16.25 | MacLeeds | random acts of footwear? |
16:17.07 | edward | something like that |
16:19.48 | MacLeeds | so the last mail on the gllug list was getting on for 2 days ago? |
16:20.16 | wethrin | Yeah |
16:20.27 | wethrin | Maybe people need that much time to recover from the meeting? |
16:21.15 | MacLeeds | :-) |
16:44.33 | morsing | Hi Leeds |
16:44.47 | Leeds | morsing: hi |
17:03.43 | wethrin | Don't you mean mozrat? :) |
17:07.52 | Jang- | wethrin: does a new geforce dual head gfx card count as a new toy? |
17:09.10 | wethrin | Probably |
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17:24.19 | wethrin | IRCing from the library? |
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19:08.42 | Leeds | evning Blapto |
19:08.52 | Blapto | Actually, I'm just off to eat |
19:08.56 | Blapto | I'll be back in 30 mins or so. |
19:09.35 | Leeds | be like that then :-) |
19:24.03 | Blapto | Back now though. |
19:39.40 | Leeds | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/03/14/debian_reduced/ is interesting - I can't find the primary source |
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19:43.48 | Leeds | http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.announce/605 |
19:45.44 | Leeds | I'd like to hear Martin's comments on it :-) |
19:46.09 | Blapto | That happens to be my name... |
19:46.19 | Blapto | I'd say it's prudent |
19:46.22 | Blapto | but unfortunate |
19:47.14 | Leeds | was thinking of a different Martin, but that's okay... |
19:47.36 | Blapto | No real insight into it |
19:47.37 | Leeds | I find the choice of architectures slightly strange... |
19:48.11 | Blapto | Apart from itanium, they seem like the most popular ones |
19:48.16 | Blapto | and itanium makes business sense |
19:48.52 | Leeds | I don't think it does - it's a dead platform |
19:49.18 | Blapto | The reasoning behind it is that there are thousands of these boxes out there which are going to need a moden OS |
19:49.30 | Blapto | Microsoft aren't going to give them one, so better get the monopoly |
19:49.50 | Leeds | fair point |
19:51.55 | Leeds | but it is noticable that Debian, the great leveller of platforms, is coming down to x86, x86, x86 and ppc |
19:52.07 | Blapto | NetBSD all the way matey |
19:52.48 | Leeds | fair point, again :-) |
19:59.23 | murb | read mjg59s DPL platform. |
19:59.41 | Leeds | doesn't bother me directly, particularly, since I (as of a few weeks ago) no longer personally care about SPARC, and all my other machines are x86, x86-64 or ppc :-) But I've been arguing that the sheer number of platforms has been holding Debian back for a while |
19:59.45 | Leeds | murb: url? |
20:06.55 | Blapto | It seems that everyone in here runs a mac as well |
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20:11.50 | murb | Leeds: http://www.debian.org/vote/2005/vote_001 |
20:23.49 | mozrat-pl | Hey guys |
20:23.53 | mozrat-pl | wb Blapto |
20:29.38 | Blapto | mozrat, I'm afraid you're lumbered with me. |
20:29.52 | mozrat | dammit |
20:30.52 | Blapto | Looking at that kernel book some more |
20:31.00 | Blapto | I'm wondering how simple I could get a linux kernel |
20:31.26 | Blapto | and at what line it becomes my creatino and not just a hack |
20:31.27 | mozrat | they have a copy at kernel.org just download it |
20:31.28 | mozrat | :P |
20:31.42 | Blapto | I just want to create my own OS, eventually |
20:35.32 | Blapto | Why? Because I can't. |
20:37.14 | mozrat | :) |
20:46.54 | Blapto | AngelChild, which uni are you at? |
20:47.00 | AngelChild | southampton |
20:47.05 | Blapto | Reading? |
20:47.12 | AngelChild | computer engineering :) |
20:47.43 | Blapto | What do you know about Edinburgh and their computer science School of Informatics/ |
20:51.30 | Blapto | Southampton doesn't look too bad from the website either |
20:59.56 | AngelChild | i don't know anything about ediburgh |
21:00.10 | AngelChild | soton is the best for electronics and one of the top for compsci in the country :) |
21:00.51 | AngelChild | well |
21:00.56 | AngelChild | in an engineering sense |
21:01.03 | AngelChild | cambridge is better for pure computer science :) |
21:14.38 | Leeds | Blapto: silly question, but have you looked at minix? |
21:15.37 | Leeds | since it's a) now bsd-licensed and b) written as an example of how OSs work for students... |
21:20.56 | Blapto | Sorry, went for a quick shower |
21:21.00 | Blapto | I'm looked at it |
21:21.22 | Blapto | It's quite interesting |
21:22.41 | Leeds | I have used it in 'production' - on an old 386 someone gave me, and it works fine |
21:22.55 | Blapto | what on earth were you producing? |
21:23.57 | Blapto | Does it have to go on an Intel CPU? It doesn't say x86, it specifies Intel. |
21:24.07 | Blapto | My only complete system handy is Athlon. |
21:24.45 | Leeds | production meaning I used it as a useful computer, rather than a toy or test machine |
21:25.08 | Leeds | I think it should work on athlon in theory |
21:27.32 | George | yoyo Blapto |
21:28.10 | Blapto | Hey George |
21:28.30 | Blapto | "To run MINIX 2.0, you need a PC driven by an 8088, 286, 386, 486, or Pentium CPU" |
21:28.56 | George | Blapto: they're paying me |
21:29.02 | Blapto | Ah, excellent |
21:29.06 | Blapto | What are you getting? |
21:29.08 | George | 180 GBP |
21:29.15 | Blapto | Good |
21:29.18 | George | plus they've asked me to do 2 more articles totalling 10 pages |
21:29.28 | Blapto | what on |
21:29.35 | George | educational software, and xinerama |
21:30.21 | Blapto | Excellent |
21:30.37 | George | yeah, I'm pretty happy with the outcome |
21:30.49 | George | I emailed them at 11:10 last night, the guy replied at 11:50 |
21:30.49 | George | lol |
21:30.51 | Blapto | £90/page for the other 10? |
21:30.58 | George | should be |
21:31.07 | George | that's their standard rate |
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22:22.18 | Blapto | To bed! |
22:22.45 | Leeds | already there |
22:22.58 | Leeds | but then I am in GMT+2 |
22:23.35 | George | Blapto: nite |
22:23.44 | George | Leeds: israel is only +2? |
22:23.48 | George | I thought it would be more than that |
22:23.54 | Leeds | George: yes |
22:25.34 | Blapto | Leeds, whereabouts in Israel? |
22:25.46 | Leeds | Blapto: right now, Ra'anana |
22:26.42 | Blapto | Ah, a lovelt coastline |
22:26.47 | Blapto | but then again, so is most of Israel |
22:27.03 | Leeds | um, Ra'anana doesn't have a coastline :-) |
22:27.24 | Blapto | Why do I think it does... |
22:27.49 | Blapto | It's just north of Tel Aviv? |
22:27.51 | Leeds | I was on Nahariyah beach yesterday and Tel Aviv and Herzliya beaches last week |
22:28.04 | Leeds | it's inland behind Hertzliya |
22:28.30 | Blapto | I don't know of Hertzliya |
22:28.50 | Blapto | I was under the impression it was in between Netanya and Tel Aviv, with a coastline |
22:29.08 | Leeds | yes, that's just where Herzliya is ;-) |
22:29.15 | Blapto | Ah |
22:29.49 | Blapto | Layla tov then, see you tomorrow |
22:30.27 | Leeds | lilah tov :-) |
22:30.45 | Blapto | Bloody phonetics |
22:31.35 | Leeds | I think it's a matter of opinion |
22:31.51 | Leeds | have you spent time here? |
22:31.56 | Blapto | No, I plan on going |
22:32.08 | Blapto | Family holiday one year perhaps, but never have so far. |
22:32.21 | Blapto | A friend wants me to go to Technion with him in the Summer |
22:32.29 | Leeds | ah, I've been here a lot, including spending a year here 10 years ago |
22:32.44 | Leeds | and I'm considering a move out here |
22:34.09 | Blapto | Where would you |
22:34.10 | Blapto | go |
22:34.17 | Blapto | Stupid return button... |
22:34.39 | Leeds | dunno - would depend on work, mainly |
22:35.03 | Leeds | probably somewhere in greater tel aviv |
22:35.35 | Leeds | but there's a lot of tech up around haifa too |
22:35.59 | Blapto | Uta medaber angleet? |
22:36.38 | Leeds | uta? |
22:36.44 | Blapto | Ata? |
22:37.02 | Leeds | um... I'm English :-) |
22:37.07 | Blapto | Ah, always helps |
22:37.18 | Blapto | Expat? |
22:37.25 | Leeds | ani medaber kstat ivrit |
22:37.35 | Blapto | kstat? |
22:37.41 | Leeds | a little, some |
22:37.51 | Blapto | Thanks |
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22:37.54 | Blapto | I really should go to sleep |
22:37.55 | Blapto | night. |
22:38.16 | Leeds | I'm English born and bred, worked for 7 years in Watford, considering moving out here for a while or for good |
22:38.20 | Leeds | g'night :-) |
22:38.56 | Blapto | nice talking to you, going by channel stats I'll speak to you again soon. |
22:39.07 | Leeds | oh, I'm always here :-) |
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23:06.11 | AngelChild | http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/ <---- :| |
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