| 00:00.54 | Leeds | dunno... frankly, you ask nicely, I'll give them to you... |
| 00:01.14 | George | I couldn't do that |
| 00:01.16 | George | that'd be rude |
| 00:01.27 | Leeds | ha ha ha |
| 00:01.38 | George | :) |
| 00:03.15 | George | are you saying I'm a rude person? |
| 00:04.01 | Leeds | well, you have been |
| 00:04.05 | George | in what way? |
| 00:04.12 | Leeds | ripping me off! :-) |
| 00:04.17 | George | apart from that :) |
| 00:04.38 | George | besides, you spent a long time calling me a KDE weenie. |
| 00:05.30 | Leeds | you are a KDE weenie |
| 00:05.43 | George | in what way? |
| 00:06.29 | Leeds | well... you're a weenie... in a KDE way |
| 00:06.33 | George | Leeds: when I buy my new laptop in a few months time, i'll see how much money I have left and I'll buy your games then :) |
| 00:06.47 | George | heh |
| 00:07.00 | George | I haven't even touched KDE CVS for a few months now |
| 00:07.07 | George | in fact |
| 00:07.14 | George | I haven't touched gcc for a few months |
| 00:11.05 | George | haha |
| 00:11.07 | George | where to this time? |
| 00:11.12 | George | I was doing that earlier today |
| 00:11.51 | Leeds | Israel again |
| 00:12.44 | George | why? |
| 00:12.53 | George | I was looking at flights to Malaga |
| 00:12.58 | George | for the KDE world conference this year |
| 00:12.59 | Leeds | malaga is easy |
| 00:13.17 | Leeds | I've been to malaga so many times... |
| 00:13.22 | George | lol |
| 00:13.25 | George | is it cheap there? |
| 00:13.28 | Leeds | monarch or easyjet from luton, or easyjet from stanstead |
| 00:13.44 | George | I'll probably be going easyjet |
| 00:13.44 | Leeds | it's cheap when your parents have a holiday flat down the coast, yes :-) |
| 00:13.55 | George | can I stay in your holiday flat!??!?! :) |
| 00:13.57 | Leeds | monarch are quite good, and can be cheaper |
| 00:14.23 | George | accomodation will be paid for anyway it seems |
| 00:14.25 | George | so blah |
| 00:14.39 | Leeds | is it actually in Malaga itself? |
| 00:14.42 | George | yes |
| 00:14.45 | George | apparently |
| 00:15.15 | George | http://dot.kde.org/1111445162/ |
| 00:15.19 | Leeds | ah, because monarch to gib is also a possibility for my parents' place, since it's actually closer to gib than malaga, plus the road is clearer |
| 00:15.19 | George | that's all that's known about it |
| 00:16.32 | Leeds | ah, okay - I don't actually know malaga itself - it's one of those places where you tend to leave town straight from the airport... I do want to visit - there's a particularly good new Picasso museum apparently |
| 00:17.45 | George | come during akademy :) |
| 00:18.22 | Leeds | by then, I may well be in Israel |
| 00:18.47 | George | woot |
| 00:19.19 | Leeds | if I'm going, I think I'm planning to be there by, say, mid-July |
| 00:21.51 | George | hrmm |
| 00:21.53 | George | blah |
| 00:22.02 | George | can I have your games then? :) |
| 00:22.35 | Leeds | maybe |
| 00:22.38 | George | thanks |
| 00:22.46 | Leeds | ugh :-) |
| 00:23.33 | George | hah |
| 00:36.06 | rhowe | George: Do you know about skyscanner? |
| 00:36.34 | George | nope |
| 00:36.55 | rhowe | George: Well worth checking out if you want a nice overview of budget airline pricing for a route |
| 00:37.12 | rhowe | George: Gives you graphs and stuff showing which times of the month are best |
| 00:37.23 | Leeds | skyscanner is cool, but I know the north London->Malaga market pretty well :-) |
| 00:38.06 | rhowe | One thing I wish it did would be "sbw" |
| 00:38.08 | rhowe | er |
| 00:38.14 | rhowe | "show me all airports which flights to x" |
| 00:38.23 | rhowe | s/which/with/ |
| 00:38.36 | rhowe | damn this typing in the dark and at a funny angle |
| 00:38.47 | rhowe | and being tired |
| 00:41.08 | Leeds | g'night |
| 00:45.03 | Leeds | George: you do know it's a bank holiday weekend so flights cost a *lot* more? |
| 00:47.39 | George | oh well |
| 00:47.47 | George | 145 return |
| 00:48.54 | Leeds | I would normally expect to pay a little over 100, particularly with this much notice... but it's not that cheap a place to fly to, frankly |
| 00:49.09 | George | yeah |
| 00:49.19 | George | last year though, I flew british midland to germany |
| 00:49.24 | George | cost an arm and a leg |
| 00:51.21 | Leeds | how long can you stay? |
| 00:52.10 | Leeds | I'm assuming not a couple of weeks in total... |
| 00:52.14 | George | ? |
| 00:52.38 | Leeds | as in, how flexible are you with the dates? |
| 00:52.39 | George | I'm planning to leave here on the 26th, return on the 5th |
| 00:54.10 | Leeds | if you stay until the 6th, Monarch are ?122 Luton->Malaga |
| 00:54.21 | George | return? |
| 00:54.31 | George | and I can't stay until the 6th |
| 00:54.36 | George | school starts on the 6th |
| 00:54.43 | George | well, i could |
| 00:54.47 | Leeds | ah |
| 00:54.49 | George | because school starts at night |
| 00:54.49 | George | :) |
| 00:55.10 | Leeds | coming back on the 5th makes it ?45 more |
| 00:55.22 | George | can I have those games then? :P |
| 00:57.19 | Leeds | ?141 on Monarch, 26th to 5th, going via Malaga, returning from Gib... may not be useful for you ;-) |
| 00:57.40 | George | nah |
| 00:57.57 | George | if I return for 1am on the 6th I get it for 125 on EasyJet anyway |
| 01:00.02 | Leeds | and you're not a child anymore... you're growing up so quickly... |
| 01:00.48 | George | ? |
| 01:00.51 | George | what? |
| 01:02.05 | George | I'm an ickle child. |
| 01:03.08 | Leeds | didn't you say you were about to be 17? |
| 01:04.13 | George | yeah |
| 01:04.18 | George | in 23 hours :( |
| 01:04.49 | Leeds | so you don't generally get child prices for flights |
| 01:04.49 | George | in 23 hours my age will no longer be expressable as an integer power of 2 |
| 01:04.58 | George | I know that. |
| 01:05.00 | George | I didn't last year... |
| 01:05.09 | George | child prices are normally 13 or under on planes |
| 01:05.36 | George | Leeds: btw - I watched all the episodes of Dead Like Me |
| 01:05.38 | George | Leeds: good show |
| 01:05.52 | Leeds | I watched all but one of the second series in the past 2 days |
| 01:07.30 | George | lol |
| 01:08.11 | Leeds | I only missed one because it seems to have been damaged in a disk death in January, so I redownloaded it |
| 01:11.29 | JAV | http://www.rathergood.com/laibach/ |
| 01:12.13 | Leeds | first, /me must sleep, then talk to someone official about that Israeli passport they owe me |
| 01:13.01 | Leeds | we old folks needs our sleep |
| 01:13.52 | Leeds | zzzz |
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| 08:13.55 | mozrat | allo |
| 08:15.37 | Leeds | shalom |
| 08:38.48 | murb | moin |
| 08:39.45 | Leeds | murb: where do you live? |
| 08:40.14 | murb | Wiesbaden |
| 08:40.51 | Leeds | which is? ;_) |
| 08:41.25 | murb | and high wycombe |
| 08:41.35 | murb | the capital of hesse |
| 08:41.40 | Leeds | ah |
| 08:42.11 | Leeds | can I ask why you (partially) live there, how your German is, how it was when you (partially) moved there, and if it's good enough? |
| 08:50.24 | mozrat | Is there such a thing as 'Hardware worms'? |
| 08:50.30 | mozrat | as opposed to regular worms |
| 08:51.01 | mozrat | and would a laptop such as this be more likely to be damaged by them >> http://www.zaverio.net/laptop/legnatile/index-en.html :) |
| 08:51.45 | Leeds | mmm... worms... |
| 08:51.51 | mozrat | woodworms! |
| 08:52.59 | Leeds | breakfast time... |
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| 10:13.50 | mozrat | Grrr, I hate ftp.exe on WIndows |
| 10:14.11 | mozrat | so fscking awkward. "Go and get that directory and all subcontents.." |
| 10:14.42 | Blapto | wget * ? |
| 10:14.58 | Blapto | Or do I mean mget? |
| 10:15.03 | mozrat | not on Windows, and not on someone elses Windows you're not supposed to install random software on |
| 10:15.24 | mozrat | it isn't too much to ask that they provide a sane FTP client as part of a standard installation surely |
| 10:15.36 | Blapto | mget * then, surely |
| 10:16.44 | Blapto | heh, school network security is so poor. you can't open a command prompt, good start. |
| 10:16.58 | Blapto | So create a .bat file and put cmd in it, taadaa, a command prompt |
| 10:17.04 | Blapto | and they haven't disabled netsend or anything. |
| 10:23.14 | mozrat | Be good, blapto |
| 10:23.15 | mozrat | :) |
| 10:26.45 | Blapto | I only have logins and passwords of my friends, so I'm not about to do anything using them. |
| 10:26.48 | Leeds | so, folks... I'm about to go meet someone at the Jewish Agency (effectively the Israeli government agency which deals with the worldwide Jewish community - including immigration) |
| 10:27.07 | Blapto | however, with a hardware keylogger, I could bring the school to it's knees. mwuahaha, etc. |
| 10:27.11 | Leeds | what must I not forget to ask? |
| 10:27.33 | Blapto | Ask about financial support for doing the 5 month course. |
| 10:27.35 | mozrat | Can I join your party? |
| 10:28.01 | Blapto | I take it you already know about work permits, taxes and such? |
| 10:28.47 | Leeds | work permit is not an issue in principle... taxes, well, they just happen... |
| 10:28.54 | Blapto | ok |
| 10:29.04 | Leeds | mozrat: party? :-) |
| 10:29.15 | Blapto | There has to be a party. |
| 10:29.23 | Leeds | oh, there will be a party |
| 10:30.38 | wethrin | Morning |
| 10:30.44 | Leeds | so, what non-obvious stuff mustn't I forget? :-) |
| 10:30.59 | SlayerXP | testicles, spectacles, wallet and watch. |
| 10:31.41 | Blapto | You know how the pope stands on the balcony and does that wavy thing with his hands every day? |
| 10:31.49 | Leeds | um, okay... you want me to make the sign of the cross for them? |
| 10:31.52 | Blapto | "Get off the fucking grass... Get off the fucking grass..." |
| 10:33.39 | Leeds | I should probably get dressed before going... |
| 10:33.57 | Blapto | Nah |
| 10:34.05 | Blapto | go in a dressing gown to show how confident you are |
| 10:34.38 | Leeds | even Israelis, who aren't much fans of personal space, modesty, etc. aren't into naked meetings - yet! |
| 10:34.50 | mozrat | Leeds, yes. You should ask.. "Can I join the (coming to Israel) party" |
| 10:35.33 | Blapto | On a more serious note, because of your physical condition/age? are you exempt from the IDF? |
| 10:35.56 | Blapto | They could put you behind a desk for a while. |
| 10:36.09 | Leeds | in theory no, in practice yes AFAIK - it's on my list... |
| 10:36.16 | Leeds | hmmm... I should have a list |
| 10:38.05 | Leeds | anyway, I'm out of here... |
| 10:38.13 | Blapto | Good luck |
| 10:38.17 | Leeds | cheers |
| 10:49.38 | Blapto | Arrghh. |
| 10:50.15 | Blapto | I've just looked down at my desk, and there's a jumper. It's probably come off my mobo or a hard drive somewhere in this room, seeing as it's shiny clean. This isn't a good thing. |
| 12:03.40 | Leeds | oops |
| 12:07.41 | Leeds | so, anyone want to come visit me in Tel Aviv? |
| 12:08.46 | wethrin | Um...... :) |
| 12:08.57 | wethrin | Could do |
| 12:11.17 | Leeds | I'm still on the more-likely-than-not side of things |
| 12:11.18 | murb | Leeds: how easy is it for rndoms to get a tourist visa? |
| 12:11.26 | Leeds | rndoms? |
| 12:11.53 | Leeds | for a Brit (EU, probably) all you need to do is fill out a landing card, to get a 3 month tourist visa |
| 12:14.15 | wethrin | Ah. So no fancy visa applications, just turn up to the country? |
| 12:15.22 | Leeds | yup |
| 12:15.28 | Leeds | unless you're a nazi or something |
| 12:15.36 | wethrin | I'm not |
| 12:15.54 | Numz | how do they spot them? |
| 12:16.01 | Leeds | or a palestian with dual citizenship? |
| 12:16.11 | murb | Numz: I@m sure there is a database of party members |
| 12:16.14 | Leeds | that's palestinian |
| 12:16.20 | wethrin | Numz: Armbands, probably |
| 12:16.33 | Leeds | Numz: I could be wrong, but I think they could do extra checks on Germans over a certain age |
| 12:16.56 | Numz | so children of nazi or not nazi? |
| 12:17.00 | murb | Leeds: so austrians or czechs or ukrainans etc would be ok? |
| 12:17.18 | Numz | s/or/are/ |
| 12:17.51 | Leeds | Germany born after 1/1/1928 is automatic visa |
| 12:18.30 | Leeds | austrians, czechs are apparently fine - ukranians need to apply |
| 12:18.30 | murb | so Harry Saxe-Coburg-Gotha would get on automatically? |
| 12:18.33 | Numz | what about the Hitler Youths? |
| 12:18.44 | murb | Numz: what wasn't exactly volnetary |
| 12:18.49 | Leeds | I suspect harry has a british passport |
| 12:18.55 | Leeds | murb: well... |
| 12:21.14 | Leeds | anyway, so apparently all I need is my birth certificate (or my mother's) and my parents' Jewish marriage certificate (or divorce certificate) |
| 12:21.43 | Leeds | oh, and the army wouldn't want me, which is nice |
| 12:25.51 | Leeds | and the process can be done in 2-3 weeks ;-) |
| 12:26.24 | murb | Leeds: and then they issue you with a new passport? |
| 12:26.30 | Leeds | actually, no |
| 12:26.57 | murb | you have to live there for some time to qualify? |
| 12:27.15 | Leeds | for the first year, you get a non-passport document, which can be travelled on, but may not always be accepted... the point, I think, then becomes to leave Israel on the Israeli document, but enter the destination country on the UK passport |
| 12:32.10 | murb | Leeds: Israel has embarrcation controls?? |
| 12:32.22 | murb | since you don't need any passport normally to exit the uk. |
| 12:32.22 | Leeds | a what now? |
| 12:32.38 | murb | Leeds: you said you leave the country on an Isreali document. |
| 12:32.43 | Leeds | what, passport control on the way out? sure |
| 12:47.22 | Leeds | cool... if I buy a house in Gaza, the government will give me a cheap mortgage |
| 12:48.31 | murb | Leeds: is it wise to buy a house in Gaza? |
| 12:48.36 | Leeds | no |
| 12:49.30 | Leeds | particularly not now... since it's about to become illegal, even under Israeli law... I suspect the web site needs a little updating to deal with political changes |
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| 13:18.23 | Leeds | hmm... that's a claim I've never seen before - that windows was mostly written by Microsoft-Israel |
| 13:21.50 | Blapto | Bah, trying to play liero under wine |
| 13:21.54 | Blapto | it says "press any key" |
| 13:21.59 | Blapto | doesn't work. |
| 13:24.59 | Blapto | making NiL fails |
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| 13:31.07 | edward | has anybody noticed how gvim takes on the size of the xterm you load it from? |
| 13:32.09 | morsing | Hello |
| 13:32.30 | morsing | Does anyone know LDAP? |
| 13:39.41 | Leeds | I think rhowe may |
| 13:56.39 | Leeds | mmm... stir-fry :-) |
| 14:08.35 | rhowe | morsing: To a point |
| 14:32.44 | morsing | rhowe: LDAP works except if passwords are involved |
| 14:33.09 | murb | morsing: so a high security installation! |
| 14:33.09 | morsing | I get no usefull messages in the log |
| 14:33.21 | morsing | murb: Exactly . No access! |
| 14:33.43 | morsing | ls -l show the user name correctly |
| 14:33.51 | morsing | Login just fails |
| 14:34.04 | morsing | It might be because the type of password is incorrect |
| 14:34.11 | morsing | But I donxt know |
| 14:36.05 | morsing | How do I query LDAP for a users userPasswd attrib_ |
| 14:37.34 | wethrin | You weren't at the pub on Friday! |
| 14:39.03 | morsing | wethrin! |
| 14:39.14 | wethrin | What was your excuse? |
| 14:39.19 | wethrin | I told you where we were! |
| 14:39.25 | morsing | wethrin: No, going on holiday Sat. Had to pack. |
| 14:39.31 | wethrin | Pfff. Excuses. |
| 14:39.32 | morsing | Sorry :-( |
| 14:39.42 | wethrin | Will you be there on Friday 1st April? |
| 14:39.42 | morsing | Next time. Or Sweeeden |
| 14:39.53 | morsing | wethrin: No, visitors |
| 14:39.54 | wethrin | morsing: You coming to mini-LBW too? |
| 14:39.57 | wethrin | Oh. Poo. |
| 14:40.07 | morsing | wethrin: Believe so. When is it? |
| 14:40.15 | Leeds | ah, the 1st? |
| 14:40.42 | wethrin | Leeds: yes. day after my birthday |
| 14:40.56 | wethrin | morsing: 20-22nd May |
| 14:41.01 | morsing | Your b'day is the 31st of March? |
| 14:41.21 | wethrin | Yes |
| 14:41.22 | morsing | That's the same day as my nephew! |
| 14:41.31 | wethrin | cool |
| 14:41.35 | morsing | :-) |
| 14:41.43 | wethrin | However, I think we shall be going to a radio recording on the 31st |
| 14:41.45 | morsing | I'll never forget your b'day then |
| 14:41.52 | wethrin | Not that I appear to have received tickets yet..... |
| 14:41.55 | Leeds | ah, the 31st? |
| 14:42.07 | wethrin | yah |
| 14:42.21 | Leeds | arg |
| 14:42.30 | wethrin | You said you'd come to the radio.... |
| 14:47.36 | wethrin | What about the days before? |
| 14:48.16 | Leeds | I had been plnning to go up beforehand |
| 14:48.49 | Leeds | but all plans are fluid |
| 14:49.39 | wethrin | Okay |
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| 15:39.30 | JAV | afternoon |
| 16:10.18 | rhowe | morsing: How do you mean? |
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| 16:43.27 | mozrat | `w00 AngelChild |
| 16:43.50 | mozrat | does anyone know if Asterisk supports skinny? #asterisk seems a little.... quiet |
| 16:44.47 | wethrin | is mozrat channelling the spirit of cope? |
| 16:45.38 | eye69 | mozrat: Well, it has a config file for it. I don't know much more. |
| 16:45.42 | eye69 | mozrat: Checked the wiki? |
| 16:46.22 | eye69 | I don't even see you in #asterisk. |
| 16:47.32 | mozrat | yeah, I'm in there?!? |
| 16:47.36 | mozrat | I think :) |
| 17:07.27 | eye69 | Not from my POV. |
| 17:07.49 | eye69 | I'm in both channels, but a /wii only shows you as being in #gllug |
| 17:08.13 | eye69 | #asterisk has 281 nicks and quite some traffic |
| 17:08.43 | eye69 | I'm currently using zelazny.freenode.net, btw. |
| 17:12.20 | wethrin | J_Jessy? |
| 17:12.28 | J_Jessy | wethrin? |
| 17:12.41 | J_Jessy | [17:07] * M_Matty has joined #allegro |
| 17:12.41 | J_Jessy | [17:07] * ChanServ sets mode: +v M_Matty |
| 17:12.42 | J_Jessy | xD |
| 17:12.43 | wethrin | Just wondering about the nickname change :) |
| 17:12.46 | wethrin | Ahh |
| 17:20.50 | J_Jessy | de Icaza: Every piece of software written today is likely going to infringe on someone else's patent. Sometimes the infringement is serious; sometimes it is not. This depends on whether the patent that was granted was valid (i.e., it did not exist before, and it was not an obvious extension to something existing). The software patent problem is not limited to Mono. Software patents affect everyone writing software today. |
| 17:20.51 | J_Jessy | ^ :/ |
| 17:39.03 | wethrin | Ow! |
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| 20:02.14 | gregj | wethrin: priv |
| 20:02.50 | George | Leeds: so can I have those games? :) |
| 20:03.20 | gregj | Leeds: have you installed XCodeTools on your Mac ? |
| 20:03.43 | gregj | it won't allow me to do it |
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| 22:14.50 | JAV | good evening |
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| 22:22.13 | armijn | 'lo |
| 22:22.51 | armijn | anyone familiar with VIA socket 370 machines? |
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| 22:44.51 | George | mozrat: ping |
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| 23:40.10 | Blapto | Bugger |
| 23:40.22 | AngelChild | ? |
| 23:40.47 | Blapto | Every light on the ground floor just went out... Guess who's going to be sticking a screwdriver in the fuse box hoping they flicked the switch in the right direction tomorrow... |
| 23:42.04 | Blapto | Why can't we have a nice modern fusebox, without dodgy wiring. I'm going to get shocked again, I know it. |
| 23:42.27 | AngelChild | :x |
| 23:42.39 | AngelChild | =/ |
| 23:43.26 | Blapto | Apparently it hurts less the second time, like being shot. |
| 23:44.38 | Blapto | If I test the shock theory, will someone let me shoot them twice to test the other one? Please? |
| 23:46.51 | rhowe | Blapto: Get yourself an electrician's screwdriver |
| 23:46.56 | Blapto | I have one |
| 23:47.00 | rhowe | Blapto: One where the shaft is insulated right down to the end |
| 23:47.07 | Blapto | The first time I did it, it was a complete and utter freak accident |
| 23:47.14 | rhowe | And wear rubber boots :) |
| 23:47.33 | Blapto | I'd turned off the electricity at the mains |
| 23:47.34 | rhowe | heh, go on, I could do with a bedtime story :P |
| 23:47.46 | Blapto | gone outside to fix the fuck off heating thingum |
| 23:48.00 | rhowe | OK, the isolation switch before the consumer unit, or the main switch on the consumer unit? |
| 23:48.14 | Blapto | My dad couldn't work out why the (whatever) wasn't turning on. |
| 23:48.40 | Blapto | He figured someone had flicked the switch by putting something in the cupboard under the stairs (where the fuse box lives) |
| 23:48.54 | Blapto | I had said "I'm going to fix the heater" but I hadn't said when exactly... |
| 23:49.04 | Blapto | nevermind it was 20 seconds before I went out with toolkit. |
| 23:49.11 | rhowe | heh |
| 23:49.31 | Blapto | So, I am mildly safe, I had multimeter, test screwdriver, everything to make sure that it wasn't live |
| 23:50.15 | Blapto | Bear in mind, the problem was that it was damaged by someone who was putting patio furniture in, so it was pretty buggered and a huge health hazard |
| 23:50.20 | Blapto | Walking towards it... |
| 23:50.21 | Blapto | I slip |
| 23:50.23 | Blapto | put my hand out |
| 23:50.31 | Blapto | grab heating element. |
| 23:50.32 | Blapto | Which is live |
| 23:50.59 | Blapto | It hurt just a little. |
| 23:51.25 | rhowe | yowch |
| 23:52.03 | Blapto | it wouldn't have killed me, I was grounded by virtue of my arm being slightly attached to the metal casing using the conductive fluid known as blood |
| 23:52.06 | rhowe | I've never suffered much of a shock - about the only one I can think of which could've been relatively high power would've been when I touched the terminals of a PSU after unplugging it |
| 23:52.46 | rhowe | Somehow, that gave me a shock though I can't imagine how |
| 23:52.51 | Blapto | I'm thinking |
| 23:52.56 | Blapto | that's a bit of a dodgy psu |
| 23:53.26 | rhowe | (I initially thought it might've been capacitors discharging on the low voltage side, but they'd never discharge through a diode bridge with enough power to induce anything on the other side of the transformer, I expect |
| 23:53.37 | rhowe | And it probably wouldn't be AC anyhow |
| 23:53.47 | rhowe | Though a quick spike would still induce something, I guess |
| 23:54.07 | rhowe | Maybe it didn't have a bridge rectifier or something |
| 23:54.21 | rhowe | And use capacitors to smooth a half-wave rectified signal |
| 23:54.26 | rhowe | That might possibly do it |
| 23:54.33 | Blapto | I'm sure a psu goes through AC->DC before it goes anywhere near capacitors |
| 23:55.04 | Blapto | And by virtue of going from AC to DC, diodes are going to be involved somewhere |
| 23:55.09 | rhowe | Yup |
| 23:56.39 | rhowe | *shrug* I dunno. It was only a cheap little box that you plug into the wall for a modem or laptop or something |
| 23:57.14 | Blapto | Ah, I was thinking you meant a PSU in a desktop |
| 23:57.21 | Blapto | which can pack quite a punch, I've been told. |
| 23:57.23 | rhowe | Ah no, nothing that fancy |
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| 23:57.34 | rhowe | Something where every penny saved during manufacture counts :) |
| 23:57.48 | Blapto | The ones to reckon with are television PSUs |
| 23:58.21 | rhowe | Yeah, vicious things |
| 23:58.24 | Blapto | All sorts of fun to be had with big capacitors :) |
| 23:58.45 | rhowe | My parent's neighbour has a circular scar on the back of one of his hands |
| 23:58.51 | Blapto | You plug them into a HV DC supply the wrong way round and watch the innards become outards at scary speeds. |
| 23:59.04 | Blapto | How did he do that? |
| 23:59.07 | rhowe | He was working on a TV - he'd unplugged it, but I guess things hadn't quite discharged |
| 23:59.34 | rhowe | Back of his hand made contact with the back of the PCB onto which the electron guns are soldered |
| 23:59.41 | Blapto | Hehe. |
| 23:59.42 | rhowe | Nice circular burn |
| 23:59.53 | Blapto | I was playing with a disposable camera |