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00:02.24AndrewBlackhad a paracetamol, lets see if that makes me feel any better
00:16.57BlaptoNow that's a pretty timetable
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08:47.11Leedsmornin' funky people
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11:49.07rdancermagnatune.com rule
11:49.53rdanceris there any bbc radio{1,3} mp3 feed?
11:50.18rdancermorn, Leeds
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12:50.02Leedsrdancer: not mp3... there's realaudio and windows audio (mplayer handles them both) and there used to be ogg feeds...
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14:01.16Leedssoup time!
14:01.35BlaptoDamn you nokia!
14:01.51BlaptoMy phone has a function, when you lock the keys you can opt to need a security code to unlock them
14:01.51Leedswhat did Nokia do to my soup?
14:02.16BlaptoIf you enter the wrong code in x times, it locks the phone for a while, even the right code won't unlock the thing
14:02.33Leedsso why enter the wrong code?
14:02.41Blaptono doubt to prevent a brute force attack, but it's still really annoying.  Perhaps if it asked for the security and the pin it would be better.
14:02.59BlaptoI didn't do it, my brother was trying to brute force it by using all numbers he associates with me.
14:05.09Leedswhy was your brother trying to steal your phone? :-)
14:05.46BlaptoI suppose he wanted to read the text messages I have on it.
14:07.16Blaptocan't you just go to a chemist?
14:07.50Leedsgot to get the prescription first
14:08.00BlaptoAh.
14:11.47Leedsmmm... soup
14:12.13Leedsit's the sort of soup which is at least half-way to stew :-)
14:12.47Blaptoirish stew!
14:14.13Leedsnope, moroccan"
14:14.15Leeds!
14:14.49Blaptogoing, bye
14:15.29Leedsseeya
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14:24.35stephanbhi everybody
14:25.01stephanbi have quite a few half useless spare parts from old computers at home...
14:25.31stephanbcd-rom drives, scsi cables, parallel cable, 6GB HD, junk webcams, etc...
14:25.51stephanbwhat can I do with that ?
14:26.04stephanbcharity shops won't take this
14:27.36Leedshonestly, either offer to give them away (the gllug list is a good place to start) or just bin them
14:29.06stephanbLeeds: yeah I was thinking the gllug list was a good place
14:29.09Georgestephanb: I'll take the cd-rom drives and the webcams :P
14:30.04stephanbGeorge: oh xlnt. the webcams are single chip cmos very low res but are supported on linux
14:30.34stephanbGeorge: fine by daylight. useless by artificial light
14:33.16Georgeheh
14:42.56Leedsjust woke up?
14:49.22Leedswell, it seems that skype actually works
14:52.44stephanbLeeds: is skype better than other voip apps? think gnomemeeting.
14:53.19Leedsstephanb: yes, for the very simple reason that my sister uses it - without any prompting from me - she asked me if I'd heard of it
14:53.32Leedsopen stuff is better - but they're not entirely evil, and it's easy and works
14:54.34stephanbLeeds: oh i have already witnessed that. obviously skype is doing good marketing
14:54.57stephanbLeeds: but is it easier to use behind a firewall or router?
14:55.04Leedsoh, plus their firewall traversal seems to work well - that's a major flaw of existing systems
14:55.06Leeds:-)
14:56.32stephanbLeeds: oh yeah, especially NetMeeting, the most firewall *unfriendly* app you can think of.
14:57.08gregjchicken ala vietnamese
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15:47.36highburyskype is definitely cool application
15:58.58gregjyep, cos it's in qt
15:58.59gregj:-)
15:59.15gregjso it got to be cuTe
16:26.00LeedsI didn't say I liked the interface, just the application :-)
16:27.43GeorgeQT QT QT QT QT QT QT QT
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17:22.39gregjhttp://www.theinquirer.net/?article=22143
17:29.43wethrinQT sucks
17:30.35gregju suck
17:30.44gregjyou like safari, don't ya
17:30.51gregjit's qt too and kde even
17:30.51gregj;p
17:30.54gregj.
17:31.03Leedssince when is safari qt?
17:31.14LeedsI'm sure we've discussed this before
17:31.51wethringregj: Shh. I'm just trying to irritate George
17:33.01Leedshttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4387525.stm
17:33.01gregjLeeds: ask apple
17:33.18gregjLeeds: rendering engine uses qt and kde
17:33.58gregjsafari it self is native carbon
17:35.44LeedsI don't think the rendering layer does use QT... I think Apple wrote a shim layer so they didn't have to
17:37.42Leedsanyway, I'm going out for some tea
18:00.02gregjLeeds: they do, that's why qt released native qt3-free for mac
18:01.07gregjdid you know that there is daemon on mac that takes care about cd and other drives mounting, unmounting, burning etc
18:01.26gregjI was shocked, I can't use mount command directly on mac, have to do it via some daemon
18:01.37wethrinYeah. But it Just Works
18:01.43wethrinStick a CD in the drive, and it mounts
18:03.23gregjyep
18:03.29gregjI didn't said I don't like it
18:03.29wethrinI like that :)
18:03.31gregjbut, but
18:03.52gregjrecently I downloaded live unbuntu CD image, and this whole disk something crashes
18:03.57gregjso I can't burn it on mac
18:04.27gregjso...
18:04.29wethrinUm?
18:04.39wethrinYou need Toast to burn it
18:04.39gregjI don't have sources, so I can't fix it
18:04.50wethrinStick blank CD in, and tell it to ignore the medium
18:04.56gregjyep
18:05.00gregjthan I have to open disk manager
18:05.11gregjdrag image into
18:05.14gregjand tell him to burn
18:05.22gregjat least according to apple support
18:05.29wethrinDisk Mangler? Hrm
18:05.38wethrinThe image is just an ISO, isn't it?
18:05.46gregjyep
18:06.07wethrinWant a copy of Toast?
18:06.27gregjsure
18:06.41wethrinOkay
18:31.12wethrinWhat's a Hugo award?
18:31.35wethrin"Read more at Slashdot..." indeed. Like fuck I will
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20:46.04JAVgood evening
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21:02.00BlaptoHi George
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22:21.17Leedswethrin: "What's a Hugo award?" really?
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