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| 07:25.16 | mozrat | Gooooood morning |
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| 07:28.20 | mozrat | hello SlayerXP |
| 07:28.34 | SlayerXP | lo 'rat |
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| 08:48.47 | SlayerXP | ikea, from the latin verb meaning "shoddy construction, insufficient screws" |
| 08:50.17 | mozrat | lol |
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| 09:20.56 | rhowe | heh, a bit smaller than a Soekris - http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS8386088053.html |
| 09:46.11 | Blapto | ikea is politician furniture! One loose screw and your cabinet falls apart. |
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| 12:10.10 | Leeds | busy here today |
| 12:11.40 | Blapto | It is a weekday |
| 12:14.33 | Leeds | really? |
| 12:14.43 | Leeds | I hadn't noticed :-) |
| 12:14.50 | Blapto | I know. |
| 12:15.03 | Blapto | I've actually done some work today, so I might get to feel smug |
| 12:15.04 | Blapto | who knows. |
| 12:21.23 | Jang- | work? what's that? |
| 12:22.38 | Blapto | Another joins the fold! |
| 12:23.07 | AngelChild | work?! |
| 12:23.23 | Blapto | Huzzah! |
| 12:23.46 | Blapto | George, here, now! |
| 12:38.25 | Jang- | ah, wait, work is where you read random stuff in firefox and chat on irc all day? |
| 12:38.54 | Blapto | Jang-, please don't tell me you do that and someone pays you? |
| 12:39.00 | Blapto | I've been doing it for nothing! |
| 12:39.11 | Leeds | Blapto: I can beat that, for a while, anyway |
| 12:39.34 | SlayerXP | <evan-> i mean how can i tell apt-get to use ip 192.168.foo instead of 10.10.foo |
| 12:39.54 | Jang- | Blapto: i'm afraid so |
| 12:40.07 | Blapto | Jang-, what's the job description? |
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| 12:40.17 | Jang- | technical consultant in theory |
| 12:40.59 | Jang- | i ought to go learn something like regex, but that can wait till tomorrow |
| 12:41.05 | Blapto | Ah. Do you get to listen to music too? |
| 12:41.16 | Blapto | /do you want a "technical consultant assistant" |
| 12:41.22 | Jang- | yea, if i wanted |
| 12:41.34 | Jang- | Blapto: heh, i don't think my company could afford that ;) |
| 12:41.39 | Blapto | Bah. |
| 12:41.51 | Blapto | I'm quite good at listening to music and reading /. |
| 12:42.07 | Blapto | I can even flame and get modded +5 insightful |
| 12:42.12 | Jang- | for some reason, a lot of people seem to like ./ |
| 12:43.34 | Blapto | It sometimes has relevant news |
| 12:43.47 | Blapto | And I can see if it is or isn't by going to the rss feed in firefox in about 3 seconds. |
| 12:44.19 | Jang- | yea, i think rss is great |
| 12:44.29 | Jang- | means it's more difficult to waste time thoguh |
| 12:45.47 | Blapto | http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS8386088053.html |
| 12:45.50 | Blapto | Fuck me, 99 euros |
| 12:48.23 | Jang- | pretty cool |
| 12:48.59 | Blapto | phoning them now... |
| 12:49.08 | Blapto | I wonder if I remember enough German to even ask if they speak english. |
| 12:50.26 | Jang- | sprechen Sie englisch? |
| 12:51.55 | Blapto | yeah, I was successful |
| 12:51.58 | Blapto | speaking english now |
| 12:53.17 | Blapto | He speaks sur gut Englische |
| 12:53.21 | Blapto | ser gut |
| 12:53.42 | rdancer | hi |
| 12:53.55 | Blapto | Another slacker :) |
| 12:55.10 | rdancer | Blapto: ?! |
| 12:55.42 | SlayerXP | i'm not slacking |
| 12:56.03 | Blapto | Lunch hour? |
| 12:56.17 | rdancer | (but not slack) |
| 12:56.20 | SlayerXP | no just "not much else I can do" hour |
| 12:57.50 | George | ? |
| 12:57.52 | George | Blapto: ? |
| 12:58.07 | Blapto | I did some calculus this morning, so now I can say that I've done a couple of hours revision. |
| 12:58.18 | Blapto | George, we were discussing who is here because they aren't working. |
| 12:58.37 | George | I've got an article to write today |
| 12:58.43 | George | so today's going to be (relatively) busy |
| 12:59.05 | SlayerXP | Dating Tips for KDE Developers |
| 12:59.11 | Blapto | :) |
| 12:59.13 | George | SlayerXP: ? |
| 12:59.25 | SlayerXP | is that the title of your article? |
| 12:59.42 | Blapto | Step 1) ??? |
| 12:59.44 | George | no |
| 12:59.50 | SlayerXP | Dating Tips for KDE Developers: Why personal hygiene is important. |
| 12:59.52 | George | it's about setting up xinerama/twinview/etc |
| 13:00.04 | SlayerXP | why not right about something useful instead |
| 13:00.07 | SlayerXP | write |
| 13:00.11 | Blapto | Same thing. Chicks dig twinview. |
| 13:00.19 | George | ... |
| 13:01.39 | George | I can't see why they would |
| 13:06.14 | Jang- | i think it's sehr |
| 13:06.23 | Blapto | Her |
| 13:06.26 | Blapto | Heh |
| 13:06.28 | Blapto | even |
| 13:07.00 | Blapto | I'm not fussed about spelling, as long as I can say it right. I don't know enough German to write a letter or anything, just to ask my way to the chemist etc. |
| 13:07.54 | George | Blapto: calculus? whatever for? |
| 13:08.03 | Blapto | Revision. |
| 13:08.09 | George | bahahahahaha |
| 13:08.44 | Blapto | Well, you see, I was looking at this 0.5km 0.5km field |
| 13:09.02 | Blapto | And I though "If I can travel at 5km/h along the side, and 3km/h through the muddy field |
| 13:09.13 | Jang- | George: if you could get xinerama and composites, i'd read your article :) |
| 13:09.16 | Blapto | what would be the fastest path between this corner and the one diagonally opposite?" |
| 13:10.39 | George | Jang-: I have twinview and composite... :) |
| 13:10.51 | Leeds | right, library and doctor's |
| 13:11.00 | Jang- | hmm, but i didn't want twinview cos i wanted a monitor in between |
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| 13:15.31 | JAV | good afternoon |
| 13:15.34 | Blapto | Hi |
| 14:31.14 | Leeds | went to the doctor's and library, ended up stopping in at cousins, estate agents, bakery and framing shop :-) now, lunchtime |
| 14:41.17 | eye69 | Leeds: Back in UK? |
| 14:42.28 | Leeds | eye69: for over a week now, yes |
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| 14:53.17 | Blapto | it powers the starter for the mother of all geek toys. I'm going to charge it, and I don't want to die |
| 14:57.57 | SlayerXP | Blapto: have george do it |
| 14:58.08 | SlayerXP | he's young and therefore has experience to lose |
| 14:58.13 | SlayerXP | has less, I mean |
| 14:58.25 | Blapto | I'm the same age as him |
| 14:58.38 | Blapto | No... |
| 14:58.43 | Blapto | I'm a good 6 months older |
| 14:58.53 | SlayerXP | there we go then |
| 14:59.12 | Blapto | Well, it's sitting here, charging |
| 14:59.23 | Blapto | It's not warm yet, so kind of safe |
| 15:02.57 | rdancer | one day, i left a nokia 3310 battery attached to 5V trafo, and fell asleep. |
| 15:03.31 | rdancer | the blast that woke me up must have been quite spectacular |
| 15:04.07 | rdancer | i never rushed so much for the glasses... and extenguisher |
| 15:04.32 | rdancer | extenguisher, even |
| 15:04.34 | rdancer | shit |
| 15:04.37 | rdancer | *ing* |
| 15:04.51 | Leeds | talking about a ferry: " On the bridge you will find the cockpit, the command center of the jet. From here, equipped with all thinkable nautic helping aids, the shop is manouvered by the crew." |
| 15:05.06 | rdancer | hi, Leeds |
| 15:05.31 | rdancer | shop? |
| 15:07.01 | Leeds | ship |
| 15:09.08 | Leeds | well, the site says shop, but they mean ship |
| 15:12.09 | rdancer | they sound a bit bombostic |
| 15:12.46 | Leeds | well, they're Spanish :-) |
| 15:12.54 | rdancer | and, ain't ferries nowadays just big shopping centres anyways? |
| 15:13.15 | rdancer | bloody sponish foreigners, go bock to your country! |
| 15:13.40 | Leeds | nah, these are small, fast, intercontinental ferries - there's a tuck shop, but that's about it |
| 15:14.21 | rdancer | why one uses ship instead of plane, anyway? |
| 15:14.38 | rdancer | i've never used either 8-) |
| 15:15.10 | Leeds | because if it's a 35-minute journey on a ship, it's not really worth taking a plane - in this case :-) |
| 15:15.45 | rdancer | then, intercontinental as in gibraltar?? |
| 15:15.54 | Leeds | yes |
| 15:15.58 | rdancer | aha |
| 15:16.20 | Leeds | in general, if you're not in a hurry - they're cheaper and, frankly, more fun than planes |
| 15:17.01 | rdancer | hm |
| 15:19.20 | rdancer | i've got stuck on level 2, goddamnit: http://hack.datafort.net/sourcecode2.html |
| 15:23.29 | Blapto | rdancer, is part of the contest to get on the site? |
| 15:23.31 | Blapto | I have no idea about it. |
| 15:23.40 | rdancer | ``The problem has been corrected by marking processes that have started but not yet completed exec with an `in-exec' state. Attempts to debug a process in the in-exec state will fail.'' <-- that's a disgusting kludge |
| 15:23.54 | rdancer | Blapto: yes |
| 15:24.40 | rdancer | apart from the missing headers, and incorrect argv type, i don't see it |
| 15:28.56 | Blapto | how feeble, I can't even work out how to get on the website |
| 15:29.16 | Blapto | ah, got it |
| 15:29.59 | George | WOOBLE |
| 15:30.00 | Blapto | erm, it's not meant to be (c) 2001 though, is it |
| 15:30.39 | gregj | wethrin: nothing |
| 15:36.56 | rdancer | ibot: exchange 75 CZK to GBP |
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| 15:48.41 | zachary | Afternoon! |
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| 15:59.02 | pdr | hello? |
| 16:09.12 | Blapto | Hooray |
| 16:09.15 | Blapto | I'm home alone... |
| 16:09.24 | Blapto | Now to play Anvil and Slayer as loud as possible. |
| 16:16.31 | pdr | ok |
| 16:20.03 | pdr | bbiab |
| 16:27.30 | wethrin | Yo |
| 16:46.45 | Blapto | http://www.improbable.com/airchives/paperair/volume1/v1i3/air-1-3-apples.html |
| 16:46.46 | Blapto | I like it. |
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| 18:23.19 | rdancer | heh, unpacking tar.bz2 seems to be a bit slower than checking out a CVS here 8-) |
| 18:37.08 | rdancer | is there a DNS caching server close to and accessible by 81.134.122.157? the least roundtrip i'm able to get is ~380 ms 8-( |
| 18:42.29 | George | FOODOM |
| 18:46.44 | rdancer | George: ?? |
| 18:47.19 | George | dunno |
| 18:47.23 | George | just decided to yell "FOODOM" |
| 18:47.29 | George | I apparently have turretts |
| 18:47.33 | George | or however it's spelt |
| 18:59.29 | Blapto | rdancer, I use 212.23.8.1, it's BT I think |
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| 19:01.16 | *** topic/#gllug is Greater London LUG. Next meeting: End of May or start of June 2005, Web site: http://www.gllug.org.uk; Wiki: http://wiki.gllug.org.uk; Channel stats at http://www.jonmasters.org/irc/gllug |
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| 19:46.30 | murb | does anyone know if johnhearns has changed his mobile number since last year? |
| 19:50.56 | Leeds | murb: what number do you have? :-) (how does it end?) |
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| 19:51.49 | Leeds | I've got 076 |
| 19:52.25 | mozrat | Question: Is finding an application called 'Suckit Root Kit' hiding in /sbin/init is [good/bad] ? |
| 19:53.25 | Leeds | mozrat: I'm gonna say, with all my professional instincts, that no, it doesn't sound like a good thing |
| 19:53.36 | mozrat | *writes.that.down* |
| 19:53.38 | mozrat | thanks leeds |
| 19:53.48 | Leeds | on the other hand, doesn't sound amazingly well hidden :-) |
| 19:54.13 | mozrat | well, indeed |
| 19:54.22 | mozrat | Mr intruder managed to kill off sshd |
| 19:54.40 | mozrat | when Mr customer restarted his server it wouldn't load as the rootkit detection foo kicked in |
| 19:54.52 | mozrat | and wouldn't load init |
| 19:55.23 | Leeds | sounds like good rootkit detection foo |
| 19:55.57 | mozrat | yeah. not sure how it managed to detect it |
| 19:56.04 | mozrat | before init starts.. is that possible? |
| 19:56.56 | Leeds | you could hack something into the kernel to, say, checksum /etc/inittab and fail to boot if it's changed |
| 19:57.26 | Leeds | or for that matter, checksum init :-) |
| 19:57.37 | mozrat | hmmm |
| 19:58.23 | Leeds | actually, checksumming init would be quite useful |
| 19:58.30 | Leeds | you could also trivially do it in an initrd |
| 19:59.34 | mozrat | OK - help me with this one -- I have a 11GB tar.bz2 archive on a Apple 10.2.8 server where tar doesn't have bzip2 support |
| 19:59.37 | mozrat | and I need one file... |
| 20:00.04 | mozrat | tar --use-compress-prog=bzip2 xf foo.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to work |
| 20:00.06 | Leeds | bunzip2 -cd foo.tar.bz2 | tar xvf - tarroot/file |
| 20:00.32 | mozrat | do I need 11GB of free space to be able to do that |
| 20:00.36 | mozrat | 11GB+ |
| 20:01.02 | Leeds | you shouldn't, no - it runs over a pipeline... might (in fact, will) take a while, and possible lots of memory... |
| 20:01.15 | mozrat | k |
| 20:37.43 | mozrat | hmmm - it's taking ages |
| 20:37.48 | mozrat | ages and ages |
| 20:37.51 | mozrat | :( |
| 20:52.12 | mozrat | laters |
| 20:58.45 | wethrin | Evening |
| 21:05.30 | rhowe | evenin' |
| 21:06.12 | Leeds | rhowe: so, should I go work in HK for 6 months? |
| 21:06.47 | Leeds | and/or Sri Lanka |
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| 21:07.40 | rhowe | Leeds: If you like |
| 21:07.52 | rhowe | How's that for helpful? :P |
| 21:07.57 | Leeds | not so much |
| 21:08.08 | rhowe | Sri Lanka's probably a pretty nice place |
| 21:08.15 | rhowe | HK, well, you know what HK is like |
| 21:08.16 | wethrin | Leeds: I'd avoid Indonesia |
| 21:08.26 | Leeds | wethrin: whole lot of shakin' going on |
| 21:08.42 | wethrin | Movin'...and shakin'... |
| 21:09.06 | Leeds | rhowe: apparently the cousins out there really want me to go work on their as/400 stuff for a few months |
| 21:10.01 | rhowe | Leeds: How's the cash? |
| 21:11.04 | Leeds | not even been mentioned |
| 21:12.09 | rhowe | Accommodation? |
| 21:12.15 | Leeds | at this point it's more "Would you like to come, and here's some work we need doing" |
| 21:13.15 | Leeds | I trust them enough to know that it would be respectable |
| 21:27.51 | Blapto | Hi |
| 21:33.21 | Leeds | ibot change 266600000000 ils to gbp |
| 21:33.36 | Blapto | Just get your income tax bill Leeds? |
| 21:33.46 | wethrin | You're either going to be highly overpaid, or moving to a very expensive area... |
| 21:35.38 | Leeds | that's the 2005 budget, which was passed in the Israeli parliament today - they had until the end of the month to pass it, or there would have been an automatic general election on the basis that a govenment without a budget isn't much of a government |
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| 21:49.40 | Blapto | Urgh, a friend just asked me to go clubbing in Whitechapel, how do I tell him it's really not a bright idea? |
| 21:51.13 | wethrin | "Clubbing sucks. Come to a real pub instead" |
| 21:52.14 | Blapto | If you're doing anything tomorrow night, sure |
| 21:53.11 | Blapto | Last time I was in Whitechapel after dark I saw some guy minding his own business get stabbed, not 20 yards from a police car. It's not the sort of place I want to go to, pick a pub instead. |
| 21:53.32 | wethrin | I shall be in Oxford tomorrow |
| 21:53.40 | Blapto | Get the tube. |
| 21:54.31 | wethrin | I shall be in Chimes on Friday |
| 21:54.37 | Blapto | Chimes? |
| 21:54.48 | Blapto | Cider bar? |
| 21:55.24 | Leeds | wethrin: I shall be in Leeds on Friday |
| 21:55.33 | wethrin | Blapto: The very one |
| 21:55.41 | Blapto | Leeds, you'd best see a proctologist then. |
| 21:55.45 | wethrin | Leeds: It looks like Thursday isn't going to happen :( |
| 21:55.50 | wethrin | Damned BBC not sending tickets |
| 21:55.51 | Leeds | bastards |
| 21:55.56 | wethrin | Next time I'll ask someone else to order |
| 21:56.19 | Blapto | I got tickets to Dead Ringers a few months ago, that made a pretty good night out |
| 21:56.30 | Blapto | They didn't send as many as I asked for though :( |
| 21:57.13 | wethrin | Radio or TV? |
| 21:57.17 | Leeds | been there, done that :-) |
| 21:57.21 | wethrin | I've been to one radio, and 2 TVs of DR |
| 21:57.25 | Blapto | TV |
| 21:57.32 | Blapto | The warm-up act. |
| 21:57.39 | Blapto | Black guy, I forget his name. |
| 21:57.47 | Blapto | He was excellent. |
| 21:58.02 | wethrin | Cool. The one that did the Christmas 2003 specials wasn't that great |
| 21:59.06 | Blapto | Is Chimes a gllug thing or a private thing wethrin? |
| 21:59.33 | wethrin | Yes-ish |
| 21:59.47 | Blapto | ish to which? |
| 21:59.47 | wethrin | I've meant to announce it on the Social mailing list |
| 21:59.50 | Leeds | wethrin: give him my seat :-) |
| 21:59.51 | wethrin | Both :) |
| 21:59.59 | wethrin | Leeds: Okay :) |
| 22:00.04 | Leeds | but don't forget to card him |
| 22:00.15 | wethrin | It's the day after my birthday |
| 22:00.21 | wethrin | But I fancy going somewhere nice with geeks |
| 22:00.46 | Blapto | Perhaps a slight issue in that I'm a minor... |
| 22:00.54 | wethrin | Ahh |
| 22:01.14 | wethrin | That could be an issue ther,e yes |
| 22:01.29 | Blapto | Haven't had an issue for the last 6 months or so, and I won't shave in the morning but do you know if they are especially strict in there? |
| 22:01.39 | wethrin | I honestly have no idea |
| 22:02.14 | Blapto | Is it a crowd? |
| 22:02.21 | wethrin | Small one |
| 22:02.26 | wethrin | It's a restaurant too |
| 22:02.31 | wethrin | So we shall be having excellent food |
| 22:02.41 | wethrin | Beware the wallet, for she will be lightened |
| 22:02.44 | Blapto | Ah, that makes it legal then :) |
| 22:03.25 | Blapto | I'm used to performing cpr on the wallet as of late |
| 22:03.30 | wethrin | Okay |
| 22:04.27 | Blapto | I've had strange experiences with cider |
| 22:04.37 | Blapto | It's just the sort of stuff that you drink but don't notice. |
| 22:04.42 | wethrin | Yes. Yes, it is |
| 22:04.44 | wethrin | Unless it's shit cider |
| 22:04.47 | wethrin | which I don't drink |
| 22:05.41 | Blapto | Had a terrible experience with it New Years, friend got so drunk he passed out and vomited everywhere. It was in his house, so his mum kind of noticed the stench and hasn't let him forget it 4 months on... |
| 22:06.35 | wethrin | Ahh. We will stop you drinking that much |
| 22:06.49 | Blapto | Well yeah, I need to get home. |
| 22:07.27 | wethrin | We all do |
| 22:07.51 | Blapto | Although apparently Victoria station can be quite interesting at night ;) |
| 22:09.07 | wethrin | I go up to the station, aand down to the tubes |
| 22:09.11 | wethrin | It's not so bad around 11 |
| 22:09.32 | Blapto | What will the timings be, roughly? |
| 22:11.02 | wethrin | Beer O'clock onwards |
| 22:12.12 | Blapto | I don't think that features on my watch :( |
| 22:16.16 | wethrin | After-work for people with jobs. So probably about 6ish |
| 22:20.29 | Blapto | Sounds doable |
| 22:20.42 | Blapto | I'd best be off, I'll be in here tomorrow night |
| 22:20.43 | Blapto | see you |
| 22:22.34 | wethrin | nn! |
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