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06:37.04morsingmorning
07:01.08morsingibot IIRC
07:01.09ibotwell, iirc is "if I recall correctly"
08:00.44mozratMorning
08:04.14morsingmornign
08:08.51SlayerXPwelcome to another fun day on the world
08:08.57SlayerXPthe new iraqi leader is a kurd
08:09.05SlayerXPfuthermore he has the surname "Talabani"
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09:17.08mozratMorning Leeds, edward globbitz
09:17.50Leedsmorning mozzie
09:18.02eye69Morning.
09:18.08mozrathey eye69
09:18.22mozratbash scripting problem.....
09:18.34mozratmessageids=(`grep matt.hall mail.log | awk '{print $6}' | grep -v LOGIN         | grep -v LOGOUT | grep -v NOQUEUE | grep -v DISCONNECTED | tr '\n' ' '`        )
09:18.43mozrat<PROTECTED>
09:18.53mozratdo
09:19.11mozratgrep '$id' mail.log >> summary.txt
09:19.12mozratdone
09:19.36mozratI was actually doing some more complex stuff after that grep, but just to get it working at all I took it out
09:19.58mozratmessageids does indeed get all the message ID's (using awk '{print $6}'
09:20.18mozratif I manually grep for a message ID and then append to summary.txt it works
09:20.28mozratif I run it inside the bash script summary.txt is always empty
09:26.59Leedsare you sure the format of the contents of messageids is coming out right?
09:28.23mozratYes, I added some echo lines.. for example echo $id within the loop
09:28.33mozratcopied that and used it to grep - worked fine
09:29.07mozratplus I have the old incrementing counter as well
09:29.12mozratso here is a line of output
09:29.13mozrat0DB7939A379:
09:29.13mozratline 81
09:29.44mozratgrep 0DB7939A379: mail.log
09:29.56mozratMar 30 00:19:31 robinreliant postfix/smtpd[7495]: 0DB7939A379: client=mail51.uptilt.com[208.48.84.51]
09:30.14mozratso grepping seems to work - but not when doing it from within the bash script
09:30.27LeedsI assume the appending has nothing to do with it - it still fails if you just send the output to stdout
09:31.30mozratIt does not
09:31.56mozratas in taking away the >> redirection doesn't direct to the screen
09:32.39mozratsorry - talking myself in knots - yes it still fails when sending the output to stdout
09:33.52Leedsput an echo before the grep, for sanity - make sure it's doing what we think it's doing
09:34.07morsingWhat's it all about?
09:34.48mozratgrep '497EF39A34B:' mail.log
09:34.48mozratline 268
09:34.48mozratgrep 'D236539A34B:' mail.log
09:34.49mozratline 269
09:35.06mozratmorsing: parsing a mail log file trying to find all messages sent to a certain user
09:35.27mozratLeeds, appears to do what it should
09:35.52mozratIf I run that exact command from the shell I get some respons
09:35.54Leedsany particular reason for the ''?
09:35.59mozratno
09:36.10Leedstry without :-)
09:36.40mozratworks :)
09:36.54mozratwhy would it behave differently between interactive bash and scripted bash
09:37.12Leedswhen you type '' on the command line, it gets eaten by the shell before it gets to grep
09:37.22Leedswhen you have it in a script, it can make it through to grep
09:37.25Leedsmaybe... dunno
09:38.09mozratI see
09:38.11mozratthanks Leeds
09:38.21mozrathere's an amusing fact about my last 2 days
09:38.30mozratyesterday I went to Amsterdam
09:38.34mozratfrom City airport
09:38.42mozratfrom home to office in about 2hr 10m
09:38.46mozratToday I went to work
09:39.09mozratfrom home to office in about 2hr 5m - thanks to the district line
09:39.13mozrathow does that work out???
09:39.19mozratshould I work in Amsterdam?
09:39.27Leedsheh
09:39.29eye69Ask mr Livingstone
09:40.12Leedsgive it a year or two and it'll be cheaper to commute to Amsterdam
09:41.56morsingHow do I change the locale in AIX?
09:42.06SlayerXPwho cares?
09:42.07SlayerXP:)
09:42.37Leedspick the machine up and move it
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09:51.03wethrinmorning
09:51.14itsbruceMorning
09:52.55Leedsmoaning
09:53.13Blaptomoaning
10:05.21morsingitsbruce: SlayerXP and Leeds are making fun of me :-(
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10:17.57itsbrucemorsing: Is it AIX related, by any chance?
10:18.54itsbruceOr did you just go "Mmm, X", where X is something weird?
10:19.14morsingitsbruce: The first one
10:19.22morsingMmm... Volvo
10:19.49Leedsmmm... Doctor Who
10:20.21itsbruceWell, Volvos are hardly a contentious choice
10:20.31Leedsfor mmm-ing?  sure they are
10:21.42LeedsI mean - mmm... big powerful car - makes sense - mmm... small cute car - makes sense - but mmm... medium safe car?
10:21.53BlaptoPerhaps he has a family.
10:22.34Leedsnah, morsing's a loner
10:22.54BlaptoPerhaps volvo have recently released a supercar that only morsing knows of?
10:23.21morsingActually: Mmm... non-computerised car is what it's all about
10:24.00morsingBlapto: They've done that for years
10:24.03Blaptohttp://www.volvocars.us/Showroom/S60/ - 300HP volvo
10:25.06morsingI just can't stand new cars and if you're going to buy a 20 year old car a 240 is a *very* good choice
10:25.25LeedsBlapto: unfortunately, it still looks like a Volvo
10:26.00Blaptomorsing, if you want a nice car, with not too many gadgets
10:26.15Blaptohttp://www.caterham.co.uk/showroom/index.htm
10:26.18BlaptoGet a caterham 7
10:26.18morsingBlapto: That's not quite true
10:26.59morsingSevens are about 20 times too small
10:27.12BlaptoFor what?  You don't have a  family.
10:27.21morsingFor driving.
10:27.44BlaptoThey're fast...  Very :)
10:28.04morsingDon't care. I want comfort
10:28.12BlaptoBucket seats :)
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10:45.26morsingMmm... 650BHP Volvo coming soon:
10:45.28morsinghttp://www.tuningnews.net/news/041103a/volvo-xc90-puv.php
10:52.25SlayerXPthat's very practical in a city where the average traffic speed is barely above walking pace.
10:55.56Leedswell, that's interesting... the new Dell 24inch widescreen TFT I've been lusting after - it's £850 if you're "home or home office" or £650 if you're "medium & large business"
10:56.06morsingWell, Blapto wanted something fast. This can drive through a field at 130MPH
10:57.02eye69Leeds: How's your jobhunting going?
10:58.48LeedsI'm still at the continent-hunting level... looking Asian, but whether east Asian or west Asian is the question
10:59.10wethrinChina?
10:59.24LeedsHong Kong/Sri Lanka
11:01.37wethrinah
11:02.30Leedsthe family are very keen - I think I'm going to go visit them after pesach (passover) and see if it's feasible
11:03.11wethrinThey want you out of the country? :)
11:03.32LeedsI meant the family out there :-)
11:03.56wethrinAhh
11:13.21Leedsibot change 9000 hkd to gbp
11:13.34BlaptoNot bad for an hourly wage ;)
11:14.20BlaptoOff for a bit
11:14.28LeedsDell's price for the same monitor, in HK
11:15.21wethrinNot much difference for big business
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11:16.21infodroidDell makes crap hardware. You can do better.
11:17.31Leedsinfodroid: tell me where I can get a well-reviewed 24inch widescreen tft from then
11:21.40infodroidLeeds: I would consider a dual-head display for a workstation. I would think you would get a lot of dead pixels on that 24 inch and perhaps a crap refresh rate.
11:26.43Leedsdon't have space here for a dual-head
11:26.58wethrinRefresh rate doesn't matter for a TFT
11:27.11Leedswethrin: I assumed he meant response rate
11:27.17wethrinMm
11:27.53infodroidMy bad. I did mean response rate.
12:28.32pdrblum
13:26.09Leedshttp://kerneltrap.org/node/4966
13:27.56eye69Ouch
13:31.47Leedsindeed
13:32.12murbwin 23
13:32.14murbbother
13:33.27murb<PROTECTED>
13:33.39wethrinMuch better
13:51.02itsbrucetmi
14:20.24Leedsright, £161.88 for processor, case, memory, motherboard, hard drive, floppy, CD, keyboard/mouse/speakers including VAT and delivery - I think that's pretty impressive
14:20.33morsingibot tmi
14:20.35ibottmi stands for too much information
14:22.10wethrinLeeds: Not bad. What/where?
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14:23.29stephanbwho was looking for small scsi disks to build a raid for a server cache ?
14:23.40Leedswethrin: aria... m/b has onboard sound/video/lan, they have a monitor already, don't want a modem...
14:23.57wethrinMmm.......
14:23.58stephanbi have a 1GB IBM Fast-SCSI-2 drive that i believe is working
14:24.15wethrinI could be tempted by that for a games machine
14:24.16stephanbim afraid this person was looking for a 2GB drive
14:24.22morsingI have a 1GB drive and maybe a 4.5GB IBM drive as well
14:24.27wethrinAlthough there's only one game I'd actually want to play
14:24.43morsingChess?
14:24.59wethrinNah
14:25.02stephanbwethrin: it's this massive multiuser game played on the internet
14:25.10stephanbwethrin: it's called linux
14:25.17Leedswethrin: sempr0n 2300 (with fan), 40GB hdd, 256MB RAM, etc.
14:25.30wethrinsempr0n? Is that a naked processor?
14:25.40wethrinstephanb: I gave up that game long ago
14:25.58Leedsit's what used to be a duron and was never, rumours to the contrary besides, a moron
14:26.01stephanbwethrin: oic ure on solaris...
14:26.12Leedsha!
14:26.23wethrinActually, I'm currently Windows/Cygwin, ssh'ed to an OpenBSD box
14:27.37stephanbmorsing: so do you want another 1gb to make a pair (scsi)
14:27.49stephanbwethrin: so do you want the 1gb drive ?
14:28.21wethrinOnly if you're going to bin it. Otherwise give it to someone else
14:29.36stephanbwethrin: i was gonna bin it. you can have internal scsi cables as well
14:30.44wethrinNever does any harm
14:30.55wethrinI'm not sure when I'll be properly in London, though
14:32.07stephanbwell im moving in 3 weeks, i can hang on to it. i can even move it and give it to u l8r
14:32.39wethrinNeither do I :)
14:32.48wethrinWell, if you can get to Kings X for 7pm on Sunday, I'll be there
14:34.52stephanbwethrin: i can manage that.
14:35.04wethrinExcellent!
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15:05.37stephanbbye everybody!
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15:35.38Georgewho the fuck would want to pretend to be me to someone els?
15:36.06itsbruceSomeone with no shame
15:36.32itsbruceIt would add to the verisimilitude, at least
15:46.24wethrinI can't see any reason why *anyone* would want to be George
15:55.32morsingGeorge: What happened?
15:59.33Georgemorsing: some random on MSN apparently tried to pretend he was me
15:59.40Georgeaccording to some other random on MSN who goes to school with me
16:19.47itsbruceHow do you know it was a him?
16:20.42itsbruceCould be a mad psycho female stalker
16:21.01itsbruceThen again, how do we know you're a him?  Or George, for that matter.
16:21.09wethrinSome of us have met him
16:22.51itsbruceYes, but how do you know this is him?
16:23.25wethrinIt's as annoying as he is
16:24.02itsbruceFor all I know, you could be George pretending to be wethrin, just to fool me into thinking that's George
16:24.12wethrinI could
16:29.51Georgedude, I am definitely me
16:29.55GeorgeI am annoying as fuck
16:30.28wethrinWe know
16:39.38rhoweQuite a lot of Java is shockingly undocumented
16:39.53rhoweI can't find a decent description of the manifest format, or the format of JAAS configuration files
16:40.32rhoweThe API is pretty well documented, via javadoc, but the custom file formats that these people seem to think are good to create at random are a pain
17:20.24GeorgeLeeds: can I pick them up tonight then please? :)
17:20.53Leedsprobably not, no
17:20.57Georgebah
17:21.02Georgewhen then?
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17:21.24JAVafternoon
17:21.45Leedslast night?
17:21.53GeorgeLeeds: ...
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21:57.08murbyou are IWJ.
21:57.23rhoweIWJ?
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22:00.19murboriginal author of said software.
22:03.51rhoweI thought IWJ said that dselect's interface sucked and he wished he hadn't done it like he had? :)
22:04.14Leedsmmm... question time
22:07.26Leedsmmm... mp3 reith lecture
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