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00:01.39mozrat.:..:.:::...:.. .: .:: ::.::.:::.... : -- "David Blunketts victory speech"
00:21.53gt_mozrat
00:22.01gt_can i ask you someting
00:23.21mozratcourse
00:24.22gt_what will be the future in software industry
00:24.34gt_the safest path
00:24.42gt_programming net admin
00:24.48gt_or game programmer
00:25.31mozrathmmm, I'm not really the best qualified to answer that... I'm more into IT Projects
00:25.51mozratI would say net admin rather than game programming though
00:26.35gt_what it projects you do
00:27.11mozratmainly migrations and enforcing standards on small regional offices for a number of large af agencies
00:27.34mozratlots of SOX compliance recently which is zzzZZZzzz
00:27.47gt_ok
00:27.57gt_do u have any web based projects
00:28.06gt_so that i can gain some work exp.
00:28.09mozratso not really a programmer as such
00:28.27mozratdefine web based projects
00:29.21gt_web page desgin and database management
00:29.41mozratnot really then.. it's not what my company does
00:29.42gt_mainly web page desgin
00:29.46mozratsorry
00:29.54gt_ok
00:30.09mozratwe do infrastructure such as switches, routers, directories and mail
00:30.19mozratand VoIP a bit as well
00:30.41gt_is ur company located in london
00:31.02mozratI work in London yes, but the company is New York based
00:31.08gt_ok
00:31.19mozratI work a couple of roads over from Paddington Station
00:31.27gt_ok
00:31.37mozratwhat do you do at the moment?
00:31.42mozratstudying?
00:31.44gt_some work
00:31.50gt_yah studying
00:31.54gt_M.Sc
00:32.00gt_in computer science
00:32.02mozratcool
00:32.21gt_being a fresher lack exp.
00:32.32gt_i got good exp. back home
00:32.46gt_but need Uk exp.
00:32.48mozratwhere is home?
00:32.51gt_india
00:33.07mozratHow long have you been over?
00:33.16gt_4 months
00:33.39gt_i applied for so many jobs
00:33.44mozratI think a lot of the UK IT work is going the other way isn't it? :-)
00:33.45gt_they all need uk exp.
00:33.51gt_yah
00:34.00gt_call centers
00:34.34gt_so looking for exp. work
00:34.48gt_work ref.
00:35.01mozratuh huh
00:35.11gt_so that i can get some decent job after finishing my m.sc
00:35.39gt_served sourceforge for about 4 years
00:35.51gt_still helding some projects tough
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00:36.22gt_here in uk they need work ref.
00:36.30gt_no qualification
00:37.08gt_working as a driver in pizza hut
00:37.26gt_for some funding
00:37.31mozratwell - stick in there.
00:37.44mozratYou'll get something eventually if you keep at it
00:38.37gt_but my c.v needs it work exp.
00:38.40gt_isnt it
00:39.03gt_cant go for a sw job by putting driver exp. in pizza hut
00:40.32gt_you dont need any people work for free
00:46.02gt_hey mozrat u ther
00:46.14gt_i will stop this dis if you hate it
00:46.18gt_sorry for that
00:47.47mozratnah, but I'm dropping off to sleep though
00:48.45gt_ok
00:48.53gt_good night
00:49.01gt_meet you later
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07:46.29morsing'morning all
07:55.08edwardhi
08:05.07highburymorning
08:21.44mozratMorning-thing
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08:55.45itsbruceMorning
08:56.08mozratmorning
09:09.29Copemorning
09:11.59morsingWoo-hoo - Cope is here
09:12.19SlayerXPthis is a good thing is it?
09:12.19CopeHello :)
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09:16.28axelSg'morning everyone
09:18.01mozratMorning axelS
09:45.13pdrmornin
09:45.27wethrinarrr
09:50.04mozratis that a cricket channel?
09:57.58wethrinNo. It's for beer an hiking. And if you're coming to an LBW event, you should be there too
10:13.01Jang-cricket r0x0rs
10:15.02pdrcrickets are nice with gravy
10:15.08mozrat!!!
10:17.19rhowehm, how odd
10:17.35rhowewhois.registro.br is refusing my whois query for 200.160.94.28 from work, whereas it works fine from home
10:18.15pdrthey're onto you mate
10:19.11pdrjust had a chat with those mates of mine who were in the pub having lonix people show them a "model for hire" sign
10:19.55pdrthey thought the lonix crowd were very strange and guessed that it had somethibng to do with linux when they saw me walk past with them
10:20.05pdr(of course, they're all linux users too)
10:27.46morsingbeer
10:28.12pdrmmm.. beer
10:28.12morsing~seen Leeds
10:28.14ibotleeds <~richardc@80.187.146.88> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 13h 43m 17s ago, saying: '6-7 weeks'.
10:28.32morsingibot beer
10:28.33ibothmm... beer is ummm, ummm good!, or good for you!
10:29.20axelSmmm beer
10:29.25pdribot pdr
10:29.27iboti guess pdr is not trustworthy when it comes to beer, or the physicians desk reference
10:37.08rhowepdr: $boss has decided he doesn't much like Lonix
10:37.30pdrwhy's that?
10:40.41highburyis it totally impossible for them to find a quieter venue?
10:40.47morsingpopulate_queue.sh.07032002
10:41.18SlayerXPi can suggest several
10:47.17rhowepdr: Found the people a bit geeky and weird I think
10:51.45morsingibot Leeds
10:51.46ibot[leeds] a bloke called Richard in the UK or spending too much time playing with expensive electronic toys or a genius or whatever you want him to be, or nekkid, or a place in the norf, or a rubbish footie team, or damn nearly bankrupt, or better than google. relegated :-(, or unemployed
10:52.08morsingibot morsing
10:52.09ibot[morsing] a nice and very knowledgeable guy who often buys rounds of beer, or mozrat, or living in a virtual universe where AIX resembles Unix.
10:52.24morsing:-)
10:53.28SlayerXPibot slayerxp
10:53.29ibotrumour has it, slayerxp is a dogmatic zealot, or a debhead and proud of it no doubt!
10:53.56SlayerXPutter lies
10:56.50rhoweRichard should've landed around about now
10:57.16wethrinyeah
10:57.23wethrinmight take him a bit of time to get onto IRC
10:58.54pdri'd say it'll take about 3 hours
10:59.00pdrmaybe less
10:59.27rhoweIt's 40 minutes to Central
10:59.47rhoweSo say it takes him an hour and a quarter to get off the plane and into town
11:00.05rhoweThere's no wifi on the Airport Express, AFAIK. Not sure about the airport itself
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11:01.22wethrinSpeak of the devil
11:01.33wethrinDid you have a good flight?
11:01.44Leedsyes indeedy :-)
11:01.57wethrinWhere are you now?
11:01.59wethrinStill at the airport?
11:02.05Leedsat the cousins place
11:02.07wethrinCool
11:02.13wethrinThe grinning fuckwit is still in place
11:02.34Leeds?
11:02.40Leedsoh, him
11:03.37wethrinyes
11:03.42wethrinNot George :)
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11:13.39wethrinMcLeeds!
11:21.12rhoweLeeds: heya
11:21.25rhoweLeeds: Well flights for me are OK, but Sarah's not sure she'll be in HK in June
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12:04.24morsingbeer
12:28.44pdrmmm... beer
12:28.50pdrLeeds!
12:28.53pdroh
12:28.57pdrhe's gone already
12:37.42itsbruceAh, fuck Scan.  Why was I so insane as to ever try ordering from them again?
12:37.55pdrprobably because they're cheap
12:38.15itsbruceFuck them with large objects with rusty nails stuck in them
12:39.21itsbruceFor the hassle, time-wasting, hair loss and general aging, it's cheaper to go to TCR.
12:40.17pdrabout right.  an hour up and down TCR and you can find a price cheaper than scan and you get the product there and then
12:45.17pdrebay and amazon are good options too, if TCR is out of the way
12:45.28pdrdabs is as bad as scan IMO
13:34.42morsingibot change 350 USD to GBP
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13:41.17morsingLeeds!
13:41.21morsingJetlag?
13:41.59Leedsnope, not yet
13:44.28morsingBeer will help
13:45.18Leedswell, it's 2145 here, I plan to stay up/awake for another hour or two, then crash
13:49.46highburyhmm.. not so certain TCR is better than scan
13:56.31rhoweLeeds: Checking flights - all is OK there, but Sarah's not sure she'll be in HK
13:56.37rhoweLeeds: So I haven't yet picked them
13:56.47Leedsah...
13:56.58rhoweStill, Quantas flying direct = 360 quid
13:57.02rhoweMustn't grumble
13:57.07Leedspretty decent
13:57.29rhoweLeeds: Is it a bit warmer there than here? :)
13:57.36Leedsjust a little
13:58.01rhoweHow many cold showers? :)
13:59.48Leedsone
14:00.05Leedsalthough only because the hot water was misbehaving :-)
14:02.38morsingibot change 400 USD to GBP
14:05.18rhowein the summer the water is often warm enough to shower in without it being heated
14:06.19pdrapparently, the UK is one of the few European coutnries that doesn't heat its water before distribution
14:06.57pdrwhich is why there are often issues with burst pipes on the streets
14:07.02pdrin winter
14:08.57Leedswell, the water was cold, but not unbearably so
14:09.28morsingibot change 460 USD to GBP
14:12.24pdrgood to see you go there in one piece anyway
14:12.38pdrgo -> got
14:12.58pdrdid you get a good seat?
14:13.02Leedscheers
14:13.20LeedsI did - an upgraded-to-upper seat :-)
14:13.28pdrnice
14:13.36pdrport side?
14:13.54Leedsyup - didn't see any lights though
14:18.53Leedsokay, I really wonder how quick this connection is I'm leeching off... fired up a torrent to test it, and I'm up to 350kbytes/sec so far
14:19.24pdrwicked
14:19.36Leeds:-)
14:19.40pdryou're probably closer to the source there too :-)
14:20.33Leedstrue
14:28.29JAVafternoon
14:28.32JAVwb Leeds :D
14:28.39Leedsevening JAV :-)
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14:58.11Leedshttp://www.cfh.ufsc.br/~oriente/ !
15:01.30JAVgreat logo :)
15:03.07Leedsyup
15:03.52pdronly in brasil
15:04.00JAVin next update they'll choose goatse directly :P
15:05.28Leedsheh
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16:11.52gregjguys, my deep condolencies
16:12.01wethrinfor leaving?
16:12.08gregjnext few years under bLair
16:14.20rhoweIt's not completely hopeless
16:14.41pdrthanks gregj
16:14.45rhoweAssassinations are not unknown
16:14.50wethrinHopefully :)
16:15.04wethringregj: But, on the plus side, he actually has to listen to a few more people this time
16:15.27rhowes/listen/ignore/ surely? :)
16:15.35pdrit won't be long before brown is in power anyway
16:15.56pdrhe only stayed there because the party had a better chance to win with him as leader
16:19.29wethrinrhowe: His majority isn't *quite* enough to be able to do that any more
16:19.29wethrinSo. We're all ready for ID cards?
16:19.50pdri'll do my best to get out of it
16:19.59pdror if possible, get several
16:20.33wethrinJob Description? Terro....oh...you almost had me there!
16:30.51pdrok, i'm off to the pub
16:30.58pdrseeyaz monday
16:41.30BlaptoHi
16:42.28wethrinGo to the pub!
16:44.05BlaptoErrr
16:44.08Blaptowhen/where/no
16:45.17wethrinI don't know
16:47.22Blaptoyou just want me to go to a random pub?
16:48.16wethrinWhy not?
16:48.18wethrinIt'll have beer
16:48.33BlaptoSo does my house
16:49.29wethrinit's not the same
16:49.35wethrinunless you have proper barrels
16:49.57BlaptoWell, no, bottled.
16:50.06BlaptoBesides, I know nobody at either of my locals
16:51.10wethrinBah. Go with rhowe to the pub
16:51.52BlaptoI just got home
16:51.56BlaptoAnd home is Essex
16:52.20wethrinGo back into town
16:52.59BlaptoDon't be silly, I've sat down now.
16:53.10wethringet a taxi
16:53.36Coperhowe has no money
16:53.53BlaptoSo I'm going to spend about £10 to get into down to drink with people with no money?
16:54.00wethrinYup
16:54.31BlaptoMy shoulder hurts!
16:54.39BlaptoBetter idea, come here.
16:54.49BlaptoTwo pubs on my hill/road thing
16:54.53wethrinI'm too far north!
16:55.42BlaptoWhere are you
16:55.46wethrinDurham
16:56.19Copethere are girls in essex
16:56.23BlaptoThat is a bit far north
16:56.32BlaptoThere are plenty...
16:56.42wethrinYes. Jenson :)
16:56.52Copeibot seen jenson
16:57.00ibotjenson <~jenson@hermes.eco.li> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 63d 23h 38m 14s ago, saying: 'seeya'.
16:57.10wethrinhermes doesn't exist
16:58.10BlaptoReminds me of a friend's builder
16:58.22BlaptoCame round, looked at the job, said "I'll go get some paint"
16:58.28BlaptoThat was about 4 years ago.
16:58.30wethrinheh
17:00.38Blaptohow goes the PhD?
17:00.53wethrinUrghl
17:00.55wethrinSlowly
17:01.04wethrinStill some equipment problems
17:01.20BlaptoIs there a deadline that you're working to?
17:01.35wethrin2007 sometime
17:01.54BlaptoOn course?
17:02.16wethrinI have absolutely no idea ATM
17:03.42BlaptoHeh
17:04.24wethrinnowhere near if things go as they're going ATM
17:04.29wethrinbut they should pick up
17:25.06wethrin~convert 90kg to stone
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18:17.36veerahi guys
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21:03.24BlaptoYay, coding widgets
21:03.32BlaptoApple documentation sucks, but I think I'll get there.
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