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06:52.39Copewoo leeds
06:55.50morsingI'm not Leeds
07:01.12Copewoo morsing !
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07:15.32eye69Morning.
07:16.04mozratmorning!
07:17.19Copehello mozrat
07:17.27mozratHey Cope
07:17.34eye69mozrat..cope..
07:19.02Copemmm bath
07:23.46rhoweMornin'
07:59.08LeedsI am Leeds (back from lunch)
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08:16.15mozratMust be a magic shower!
08:26.14morsingMmm... shower
08:31.42morsingwethrin?
08:31.58eye69Hey morsing
08:32.19morsingHi
08:32.26morsingHow's the Mazda?
08:32.52eye69It performed its duty this morning.
08:34.45morsingSo did my Volvo
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09:02.27morsingSlayerXP!
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09:26.02rhoweHm, teleportational shower, perhaps
09:30.37Copesimilar technology
09:31.08Copebah, no Leeds
10:15.23*** join/#gllug Leeds (~Richard@203.143.24.25)
10:24.17rhoweLeeds: Me and Sarah are no longer engaged
10:24.48Leedsrhowe: yeah, I sort of guessed that might be coming... are you okay?
10:24.57rhoweLeeds: Seem to be
10:25.09Leedsis she? :-)
10:25.11rhoweLeeds: Monday was pretty tough, but Tuesday was quite a lot better. Went to see a friend
10:25.19rhoweLeeds: I think she'll be fine. Not been in touch
10:25.30Leedscan I ask what happened?
10:25.41rhoweWell, she came to Manchester to give me the ring back and left
10:25.43rhoweThat's pretty much it
10:26.03LeedsI meant in a longer term sense...
10:26.27rhoweLeeds: Oh. About a year and a half ago I was unfaithful to her - a friend was staying with me and she climbed into my bed one night
10:26.27Leedsyou can, of course, tell me to fuck off and mind my own business
10:26.35Copewoo! leeds!
10:26.41LeedsCope: wahay!
10:27.04Leedsrhowe: I remember you mentioning it... and I guess you/she never got over it
10:27.20CopeLeeds: are you in sri lanka?
10:27.25LeedsCope: that I am
10:27.32CopeLeeds: oooh! what's it like?!
10:27.34rhoweLeeds: She thought she could forgive & forget, but she couldn't
10:27.45rhoweLeeds: On top of that, I was pretty crap at the whole communication thing
10:28.01LeedsCope: hot... strange... boring, outside work, so far... work is still confusing
10:28.30Leedsrhowe: it´s a hell of a long way to run a long distance relationship
10:28.38rhoweLeeds: That it be
10:30.57Leedsand, of course, a heavily windows-centric (except when it´s as/400-centric) world
10:32.03Leedsalthough this particular build of xchat for windows is quite usable... :-)
10:32.18CopeLeeds: I may be moving into a windows-centric role
10:32.27LeedsCope: :-(
10:32.57CopeJust a reflection of how unpopular solaris is
10:33.09Leedscan´t argue with that :-)
10:33.16CopeLinux is popular, but at a level below the sort of stuff we do
10:33.20Leedsor maybe I´m just thinking of Solaris engineering
10:34.04Copemost of the linux solutions we do are pretty simple - one or two webservers, or small db systems.
10:34.25Copemuch bigger sites were historically solaris, but now seem to be win2k3
10:34.53Leedsyeah :-(
10:35.09Copeinteresting that linux hasn't been popular in the multi-tier, large sites.
10:35.13Cope(yet)
10:36.45Leedsfor me, at this point, it´s more that I find windows intolerable as a workstation for more than a short while - it´s just so limiting in so many ways
10:37.51Copeyes, I agree
10:38.34Copedoes anyone know of a 'vocabulary drilling' program?
10:38.38Leedsmac is better, native X (don´t care so much what´s underneath as long as it´s POSIXish) is best
10:38.51Leedsthere are many - search for ¨flash card¨
10:39.07Copeie gives you a word in $OTHER_LANGUAGE and you have to guess it
10:39.48Leedsflash card apps should do that, I think... I do have a rather nice free program to do that in Hebrew if it´s any use to you - Java so nice and cross-platform
10:39.57CopeLeeds: umm - I did; it gives 1000000000000000000000000 entries for usb / camera flash cards, even if you add -usb
10:40.12Leedsah, okay
10:40.42Leedsfor Linux or you don´t care?
10:40.43rhoweLeeds: heh, you're using lots of weird UTF8 characters :)
10:40.49rhoweLeeds: And they are displaying :)
10:41.07rhoweLeeds: Does “this” appear curly-quoted to you?
10:41.13Leedsyes
10:41.22LeedsI don´t know how to stop :-(
10:41.24rhowewoo :)
10:41.32rhoweDon't - convert the world to UTF8 instead
10:41.38CopeLeeds: linux preferably, but not fussy
10:41.50Copeits for learning my french vocab
10:43.35Leedshttp://freshmeat.net/search/?q=flash+card&section=projects&Go.x=0&Go.y=0 :-)
10:44.02Leedsalternatively, ISTR there was a firefox extension which would flash up words in at least a couple of European languages and ask you to translate them
10:48.35Leedstry granule - looks interesting, and if it can handle Russian, it should be able to deal with é
10:51.10Leedsè better for you?
10:52.59Copenot especially
10:53.04Copebut granule looks good
10:53.26Leedsthey look like accented e characters to me :-)
10:58.55Copeyeah, granule does look very good
10:59.49Copelunch
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12:06.00Copewoo!
12:06.03CopeLeeds++
12:07.00Leedsibot karma Leeds
12:07.00ibotleeds has neutral karma
12:07.10Cope~karma cope
12:07.10ibotcope has karma of 2
12:07.14Copeooh!
12:08.01rhoweooh, I can type pinyin - eēéèě
12:08.29Leedspinyin?
12:08.38rhoweRomanised mandarin chinese
12:09.29Leedsah - I just saw a line of e with various accents
12:10.32rhoweAs in “Nǐ hǎo ma?”
12:10.53rhoweYeah, they're the diacritic(?) marks you use to indicate tone
12:10.59Leedsoh, okay
12:11.28highburydamn! my /tmp has gone read only
12:11.38rhoweThough the latter is pronounced “Ní hǎo ma?” (2 rising & falling tones together, 1st tone gets changed to be rising)
12:12.13highburymorning
12:12.21Copehello highbury
12:12.35highburywell afternoon, but its been a long night
12:12.49Leedsevening highbury
12:13.31highburywe think it might be some sort of virus infection now, as its been going on too long, we've just come back from the doctors
12:15.02Cope:-(
12:15.15CopeWilliam has suffered with such a thing for several weeks
12:16.02highburyDonna hasn't really slept for 4 days, he's been pretty much glued to her
12:16.14Copehorrid :0(
12:16.39Copemorsing: are you there?
12:18.01mozratCope, no 'hash' command?
12:18.08highburyand "hash" doesn't work
12:18.11Copedunno - I am not on the machine
12:18.18Copeam directing someone over the phone
12:18.44highburyget another terminal on it and do a "while ls -l foo; do sleep 10; done" loop
12:19.13Copethe destination box is windows
12:19.22CopeI can see it go - jast wanted him to see how it was doing
12:19.30Copehash will prolly work
12:22.42wethrinWibble
12:22.42morsingwobble
12:22.42morsingMmm... hash#
12:23.38morsing~seen rhowe
12:23.39ibotrhowe is currently on #gllug (7h 21m 3s).  Has said a total of 22 messages.  Is idling for 12m 1s
12:23.47morsingrhowe?
12:24.42rhowe?
12:24.58rhowemorsing?
12:25.03rhoweafternoon wethrin
12:25.06wethrinHiho
12:25.16rhowewethrin: LBW good?
12:25.26wethrinDefinitrely
12:25.31wethrinYou should have come
12:25.48rhoweI was busy becoming unengaged
12:25.56rhowe(disengaged?)
12:26.07wethrinshit :(
12:26.29rhoweYeah, it kinda sucks
12:26.34wethrinI'm sorry to hear
12:26.52rhoweHowever, I also went walking this weekend
12:26.54rhoweWell, Tuesday
12:27.01rhoweOnly 4km though
12:28.00wethrinIt's a start
12:28.56rhoweYes, it may well have been a start
12:29.19rhoweConsidering the company I had
12:30.50morsingrhowe: Evil Dave stole my phone and sent you that text! Ask wethrin.
12:30.52highburyrhowe: don't you have kids?
12:31.47rhowehighbury: Me? No
12:31.54rhowehighbury: None to my knowledge, at least
12:32.30rhowemorsing: Which text? :)
12:32.36highburyahh, ok, that's a relief
12:32.57highburycope: who else was on out #gllug-babies chat room?
12:33.03highburys/out/our
12:33.58morsingI would rather wank furiously in public than go to Middlesborough
12:34.30Copehighbury: zach, mozrat, you, me, rebrov
12:34.40Copeumm revrob
12:34.45Coperebrov was a spurs player
12:35.00highburyahh, check,
12:35.17highburygotta reboot, all my machines are starting to flake badly
12:35.24Copeeeek
12:35.26*** part/#gllug highbury (~steve@81-1-76-111.homechoice.co.uk)
12:35.29Copeibot lart crap users
12:35.52Leedsibot why am I here?
12:36.13wethrinrhowe: Walk company?
12:38.00rhowewethrin: Yes
12:38.19wethrinAh
12:41.01Leedsjust to check - can anyone else get to www.lug.lk?
12:41.43rhoweYes
12:41.56rhowe"The main objective of Lanka Linux User Group is to promote GNU/Linux software in Sri Lanka"
12:43.22Leedswonder why it´s timing out for me then - it´s local!
12:53.15Copepunishment
12:54.01wethrinIt doesn't want you to join
12:54.10rhoweLeeds: What address does it resolve to for you?
12:54.52Leeds192.248.40.130 apparently
12:55.13rhowetry penguin.lug.lk
12:55.17rhoweIt's .33 here
12:55.25rhowewww.lug.lk is an alias for penguin.lug.lk.
12:55.25rhowepenguin.lug.lk has address 192.248.40.33
12:55.40Leedspenguin.lug.lk is the name I get anyway, but at the .130 address
12:56.02Copewhere are you staying, Leeds ?
12:56.27Leedsah - going by IP works
12:56.32LeedsCope: company/family house
12:56.55Copemozrat: duff gen?
12:57.05Copemozrat: translate? bad information?
12:57.13mozratCope = aye
12:57.20mozratyes
12:58.35LeedsCope: jedi?
12:59.00Cope(in eyesight)
12:59.48mozratCope, do they harp on about it Uncle Albert style?
13:01.23Leedsmozrat: doesn´t that make you a terrorist?
13:01.34Copemozrat: no not that bad, just depends if someone mentions something; but the place is full of forces jargon and my team definitely has a militiary ethos.
13:01.54mozratLeeds, no apparently it's legal.. I checked (and wouldn't have dl'd it otherwise)
13:02.20Leedsmozrat: but all bittorrent users are terrorists, surely?
13:02.32mozratLeeds: ahh, well by that definition. Guilt
13:02.33mozraty
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13:03.16mozratCope - Lots of ex-forces types live in the "good old days'. I on the other hand am attempting to grow both a beard and beer belly
13:03.41Copemozrat: indeed!
13:04.06mozratCope.. "During the war.... " </strokes beard>
13:04.09mozrat:)
13:04.29eye69:)
13:07.59Leedsokay, been in the office well over 10 hours - time to go, I think...
13:08.42Copedo you have air-con?
13:09.08Leedsyes
13:09.32Leedsexcept in the real factory parts of the place, which just have fans and are slightly warm
13:10.18Copemozrat: it does
13:10.47mozratCope, not for me
13:10.57mozratbut I have clipboard problems between Linux apps sometimes
13:11.01mozratdrives me crazy
13:12.32CopeFine Young Cannibals?
13:14.53mozratindeed
13:25.11mozrat"What do you call a man running in front of a car?" "Tired" "What do you call a man running behind a car?" "Exhausted"
13:28.29Copevia email
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13:36.45itsbruceAfternoon
13:37.59Copehi bruce
13:40.17Copea bloke, I might add, with a woman's name and a womanly voice.
13:40.38mozratCope.. could it be.... a woman?
13:40.51Copei did wonder, but I am informed that the person is male
13:41.11itsbruceI'm a bloke with a woman's name?
13:41.25Copeno - the bloke whose ksh script I have to fix
13:41.28itsbruceConsider the point at which I came into this conversation
13:41.39Copeindeed - superb timing
13:42.07itsbruceI was going to say, if you think I have a womanly voice, I'd like to see the bars you frequent.
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13:44.12Copesod this - I'm off to hide on the floor below and have a nap - I'm nodding off at my desk.
14:14.24mozrats/sneaky/power/
15:15.01CopeNow I remember why I prefer python to shell
15:15.20Copejust looking at a script I wrote over a year ago - it might as well be in russian
15:25.26Copelook! tits!
15:30.54morsingWhere?!?
15:40.14Copemorsing: could you do me a favour?
15:40.35CopeOn a convenient aix box:
15:40.39Cope/usr/bin/netstat -s | grep 'tcpRetransBytes' | sed 's/=//g' | awk '{ print $4}'
15:46.26Copeor not..
15:46.31Cope;-)
15:48.59mozratWow - I went 8 hours without Evolution crashing... some sort of record
15:52.32mozratsee you later cope
16:14.08wethrinBoingggggg
16:14.16mozrathallo wethrin
16:14.19wethrinHi
16:17.19wethrinGrab some stuff from the website
16:20.40mozrator.......
16:20.49wethrinUmm.
16:20.53mozratactually pay O'Reilly some money on my safari account for once
16:20.53wethrinThere's a book somewhere
16:20.57wethrinYeah :)
16:22.32mozratwhich is the BSD you use wethrin?
16:22.49wethrinOpen, normally. Although currently I'm 'running' more FreeBSD machines
16:40.58mozratg'night
16:41.01mozrathometime!
16:51.20wethrinnn
17:05.01Copeyum!
17:05.24wethrinMeh!
17:05.57Copewethrin: gllug! saturday! goodness!
17:06.26Copewethrin: beer, food, company!
17:06.33wethrinNot around!
17:06.41Copebother!
17:06.50wethrinAnd Gllug is on the 11th June
17:06.54wethrinWhen I'm in Edinburgh
17:07.13wethrinGllug - Saturday 11th Juen
17:08.02Copeedinburgh--
17:09.21wethrinWhat's wrong with the Burgh?
17:09.32Copeglasgow is better
17:10.00Copeand, for that matter Aberdeen
17:10.08Copealthough maybe not Dundee
17:10.39Copeanyway
17:10.51wethrinGlasgow sucks
17:10.58wethrinEdinburgh++
17:11.05Copesee you all later
17:11.07wethrinIt has two branches of the Scotch Malt Wshiky Society
17:11.09wethrinbye Cope!
17:11.15wethrinOh, and the Nettle Tea was very nice
17:11.19Cope:)
17:11.34wethrinSo, thank you muchly
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18:27.56highburywell thanks to the people on #lvm I fixed my problem :-)
18:28.08wethrinhurrah!
18:28.14highburynow just need to reboot to check all is ok
18:29.13highburyEXT3-fs error (device sdb6) in start_transaction: Journal has aborted
18:29.27highburymy root partition keeps going read-only
18:32.36highburyI can't even google for the problem, as konqueror complains about not being able to start an io-slave
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18:33.37highburyok, if it insists its read-only, that should mean I can fsck it
18:34.47wethrinYeah
18:39.25highburyfsck -fc /dev/sdb6
18:41.20wethrinbye!
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19:32.57*** topic/#gllug by highbury -> Greater London LUG. Next meeting: Saturday 11th June 2005; Web site: http://www.gllug.org.uk; Wiki: http://wiki.gllug.org.uk; Channel stats at http://www.jonmasters.org/irc/gllug; Pictures at http://gllug.org.uk/ircphoto.html [need new piccy's]
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