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07:15.47 | Cope | nice |
07:16.25 | gregj | dunno if it's so nice, my family doesn't appriciate it |
07:16.33 | Cope | :( |
07:16.43 | gregj | especialy after the times when I was in london for 2.5year instead of one |
07:16.46 | gregj | but... |
07:16.57 | gregj | they have to live with the way I do stuff |
07:17.18 | Cope | absolutely |
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07:57.43 | Cope | mmm pizza |
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08:50.31 | wethrin | Heh |
08:50.58 | Cope | aha a wethrin |
08:51.03 | wethrin | A Cope! |
09:16.22 | mozrat | Good morning |
09:16.33 | wethrin | Hi |
09:17.11 | Cope | hello mozrat |
09:17.17 | mozrat | hullo Cope |
09:20.38 | Cope | ~jfgi |
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09:35.19 | itsbruce | Morning |
09:35.27 | wethrin | Morning |
09:44.22 | wethrin | w00t! |
09:45.13 | itsbruce | ? |
09:48.44 | wethrin | The fermion |
09:50.25 | itsbruce | And do they come up with good names? |
09:53.08 | Cope | my laptop and 'tal' are 18 inches apart; to connect to it, I am currently using vpn from home to work, and then ssh'd back to tal over the net |
09:56.51 | pdr | moin |
09:57.20 | Cope | hi pdr |
09:59.13 | pdr | how are you cope? |
09:59.23 | Cope | groovy thanks, and you? |
10:04.13 | pdr | yeah, all good |
10:04.18 | pdr | well, mostly good |
10:04.31 | pdr | work is busy |
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10:31.54 | Leeds | ibot seen sash |
10:31.55 | ibot | sash <voidzero@ukato.freeshell.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 61d 37m 59s ago, saying: 'Forget the 3-in-one idea.'. |
10:32.49 | Cope | ~seen rdancer |
10:32.50 | ibot | rdancer <~foo@rdancer.user> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 54d 2h 56m 4s ago, saying: 'hi, morsing '. |
10:33.17 | Cope | ~seen jd |
10:33.17 | ibot | jd <~david@213.165.237.155> was last seen on IRC in channel #freedesktop, 144d 7h 49m 10s ago, saying: 'daniels: hmm you on keybukk time?'. |
10:36.59 | pdr | ~seen pdr |
10:37.00 | ibot | pdr is currently on #gllug. Has said a total of 6 messages. Is idling for 1s |
10:37.29 | Cope | ~seen dankolb |
10:37.30 | ibot | dankolb <dankolb@spoon.pkl.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 58d 1m 11s ago, saying: 'Bye peeps'. |
10:37.42 | Leeds | ibot seen god |
10:37.43 | ibot | god <~rkone@ip70-181-155-19.sd.sd.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 18d 14h 36m 15s ago, saying: 'Thanks for trying though'. |
10:38.11 | Cope | ~seen alchemist |
10:38.11 | ibot | i haven't seen 'alchemist', Cope |
10:38.17 | pdr | ~seen santa |
10:38.18 | ibot | santa <~jupiter@12-253-125-169.client.attbi.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #picogui, 902d 7h 58m 17s ago, saying: 'file: yeah, but i did it fedex, so it won't show up until april'. |
10:38.24 | Cope | oooh! |
10:38.27 | Cope | good hit! |
10:38.39 | Leeds | who are you hitting? |
10:39.07 | Leeds | ibot seen the light |
10:39.08 | ibot | i haven't seen 'the light', Leeds |
10:39.48 | pdr | Cope: longest ago? |
10:40.34 | Leeds | ibot seen a7r |
10:40.34 | ibot | a7r <~alexander@69.17.112.193> was last seen on IRC in channel #handhelds.org, 254d 5h 38m 53s ago, saying: 'that sucks.'. |
10:41.15 | pdr | ~seen menace |
10:41.15 | ibot | menace <~knorr@menace.user> was last seen on IRC in channel #tomcat, 30d 10h 3m ago, saying: 'when i installed jakarta, and after that AXIS (from the freebsdports), and tomcat's running, how can i begin to develop Applications for that?'. |
10:41.32 | pdr | ~seen widget |
10:41.33 | ibot | widget <~widget@host-83-146-40-161.bulldogdsl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #handhelds.org, 45d 22h 29m 46s ago, saying: 'what choices are there for syncing from linux-running ipaqs?'. |
10:41.56 | Cope | ~seen your willy |
10:41.57 | ibot | Cope: i haven't seen 'your willy' |
10:42.30 | pdr | ~seen lovefish |
10:42.30 | ibot | pdr: i haven't seen 'lovefish' |
10:42.31 | Leeds | ibot seen sid |
10:42.32 | ibot | sid <~sid@147.8.76.213> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 85d 1h 30m 12s ago, saying: 'bye'. |
10:42.50 | pdr | ~seen kfish |
10:42.51 | ibot | kfish <~conrad@balgowlah-ep.tip.csiro.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #slug, 68d 9h 29m 46s ago, saying: 'gus: see you at slug tonight maybe :)'. |
10:42.56 | Cope | ~seen casablanca |
10:42.57 | ibot | i haven't seen 'casablanca', Cope |
10:43.03 | Leeds | ibot you really should |
10:43.48 | Cope | ~seen spice world the movie |
10:43.48 | ibot | i haven't seen 'spice world the movie', Cope |
10:43.51 | Leeds | ibot seen myself in a mirror lately |
10:43.51 | ibot | i haven't seen 'myself in a mirror lately', Leeds |
10:44.18 | Cope | ~seen laomao |
10:44.19 | ibot | laomao <~laomao@82-69-220-158.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 36d 21h 15m 41s ago, saying: 'evil cope'. |
10:44.34 | Leeds | heh |
10:44.37 | Cope | evil cope |
10:44.58 | Leeds | ibot cope is also evil, apparently |
10:45.01 | ibot | Leeds: okay |
10:45.31 | Cope | ~seen Leeds' sister |
10:45.32 | ibot | Cope: i haven't seen 'leeds' sister' |
10:46.04 | pdr | ibot leeds has a hot sister, apparently |
10:46.07 | Cope | Leeds: did you find the gorgeous brazillian? |
10:46.37 | pdr | aren't they all? |
10:46.40 | Leeds | Cope: not yet - been in Sri Lanka for two weeks, haven't I??? |
10:46.46 | Cope | ;-) |
10:47.16 | Leeds | anyway, wikipedia is back, thankfully |
10:47.20 | Cope | indeed |
10:50.45 | pdr | what could be more wordy than cvs? |
10:50.48 | pdr | word up mate |
10:51.05 | Cope | pdr: concurrent versioning system |
10:51.13 | pdr | werd |
10:51.17 | Cope | ;-P |
10:51.25 | pdr | thanks for that |
10:52.00 | Cope | *couldn't |
10:55.05 | Leeds | micromuse should be careful of that bloke... |
10:55.17 | Cope | why? |
10:57.33 | Leeds | he's at micromouse - on first glance I thought "what a fool - I thought micromuse employed people with brains" |
11:01.00 | Cope | my colleague used to work for micromuse |
11:05.23 | Leeds | Cope: by the way, I have to admit that it took me a few moments to work out to which brazilian you were referring |
11:09.03 | rhowe | http://www.w3sh.com/archives/2005/05/enfin_un_bon_us.html |
11:09.19 | rhowe | Cope: Will read up on your email at lunchtime :) |
11:09.27 | rhowe | Cope: Things are a touch hectic here :) |
11:11.24 | rhowe | heh, $boss just found out from the managing director that I'd been offered a job elsewhere :P |
11:17.37 | rhowe | highbury: Still got Leeds' mac mini? :) |
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11:43.41 | Leeds | rhowe: I certainly hope he does |
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11:46.54 | rhowe | Leeds: Got a use for it there :) |
11:47.14 | Leeds | do I have a use for it? |
11:47.26 | Leeds | yeah, it's small enough to fit into a HK apartment :-) |
11:47.58 | rhowe | Nah, I meant this use :) http://www.w3sh.com/archives/2005/05/enfin_un_bon_us.html |
11:48.05 | Leeds | ah, yes |
11:50.21 | rhowe | Unfortunately, it would seem the most appropriate tool for the job (backup catalog database) |
11:51.20 | rhowe | Dammit, I told you I didn't want to configure you |
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12:13.05 | laomao_ | cope: laomao needs the grilling instruction from you |
12:13.24 | Cope | laomao_: its is probably easier for me to show you |
12:15.21 | laomao_ | cope: I will wait until you show me this evening then |
12:15.27 | Cope | laomao_: ok |
12:16.04 | laomao_ | NIce. Soya milk, please |
12:17.54 | laomao_ | cope: storage wise, freezer or normal fridge section? |
12:18.45 | rhowe | Frozen soya milk |
12:18.49 | rhowe | Soya ice cream? |
12:19.15 | laomao_ | No, peppered beef |
12:21.41 | Leeds | laomao_: are you making us all dinner? |
12:23.05 | laomao_ | leeds: cope gonna teach me how to cook beef. I'm no use at all |
12:23.29 | Leeds | bet you're better than me :-) I consider stir-fry to be advanced cuisine |
12:25.32 | laomao_ | hmm, not sure. Cope loves the curry most. and he is much better cook than me. |
12:26.32 | laomao_ | By the way, do you enjoy your exotic oriental meals in Sri Lanka? |
12:27.19 | Leeds | I certainly do :-) to be honest, I prefer indian-style (which Sri Lanka falls into) to Chinese-style |
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12:28.10 | Cope | nice |
12:28.12 | laomao_ | Most men in Britain do. A cultural taste. |
12:28.42 | Cope | mmmm curry |
12:28.49 | itsbruce | Have to say my tastes are more towards Thai/Indonesian than Indian |
12:28.53 | Leeds | mmmm curry |
12:29.16 | itsbruce | Also, Korean cuisine. Very nice. |
12:29.21 | Leeds | I do like Thai a lot... not sure I've ever had Indonesian... I prefer Thai to Indian, but I prefer Indian to Chinese |
12:29.35 | Cope | ooh, laomao_ and I know a good korean restaurant, where we went for her birthday |
12:30.01 | itsbruce | There's a very good one in spitting distance of TCR tube |
12:30.08 | laomao_ | yes, very nice. We definitely need to a re-visit some time. |
12:31.34 | Cope | <PROTECTED> |
12:32.31 | laomao_ | Maybe we ate the Korean dog next time? |
12:34.59 | Leeds | Cope: gimme a year or two... |
12:34.59 | laomao_ | What is Dr Dan? |
12:35.45 | Leeds | although mine would be Cantonese, I think |
12:36.49 | itsbruce | The dog? |
12:37.05 | Cope | laomao_: have you eaten korean dog before? |
12:37.17 | Cope | I cannot imagine eating a little doggy |
12:37.31 | Leeds | Cope: but you're okay with eating big ones? |
12:37.36 | itsbruce | You mean it would have to be a great dane? |
12:37.51 | laomao_ | No, it is a very strong potent food for Korean men, not women |
12:38.37 | Leeds | chicken |
12:39.12 | laomao_ | Traditionally korean restaurant will have a lot of dogs in the cage. You can choose which dog you want eat. Then they will kill it and cook for you |
12:40.11 | rhowe | They tend to use St. Bernards for dog meat |
12:40.55 | rhowe | At least in China |
12:41.09 | rhowe | I may have had dog soup once, but not sure |
12:41.18 | rhowe | Might just've been pork |
12:41.19 | itsbruce | Doesn't sound as if it's very tender when served |
12:42.12 | laomao_ | You can have the snake stew or raw snake liver if you like. |
12:42.25 | pdr | sounds yummy |
12:42.35 | Leeds | dog isn't kosher... |
12:42.36 | rhowe | laomao_: Snake is quite seasonal though, isn't it? |
12:42.42 | laomao_ | Leeds might have chance to taste it in Hong kong. |
12:42.43 | Cope | snake stew sounds exciting |
12:42.47 | Leeds | that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it :-) |
12:42.50 | Leeds | neither is snake |
12:42.57 | rhowe | Apparently snake really does taste like chicken :) |
12:43.01 | laomao_ | It is very popular in cantonese area |
12:43.04 | pdr | i was on a school camp once and we were climbing a mountain and one of the borders gets a knife out and kills a snake with it, so we ate it for dinner |
12:43.53 | rhowe | pdr: Was it nice? |
12:44.26 | pdr | yeah, it was a bit like chicken, but a bit tougher and maybe a bit fishy too |
12:44.38 | Cope | i have eaten kangaroo |
12:44.46 | pdr | me too |
12:44.54 | pdr | a few times |
12:45.00 | Cope | bet yours was fresher than mine ;-) |
12:45.03 | pdr | heh |
12:45.11 | pdr | i've only had it once in australia |
12:45.20 | Cope | i had it in france |
12:45.27 | laomao_ | My sister eats scorpios once when she is little |
12:45.42 | pdr | laomao_: fried? |
12:45.45 | laomao_ | deep fried scorpios are very crispy |
12:46.12 | rhowe | I would expect scorpions to be crispy even before frying them |
12:46.13 | pdr | you can eat tarantulas like that too apparently - a fave in vietnam from what i gather |
12:46.30 | pdr | or was it indonesia |
12:47.11 | laomao_ | The Cambodian people eat tarantulas. It is in the BBC documentary of Cambodian series |
12:47.21 | Cope | laomao_: any reason why she dislikes people born between October 23 - November 21 ? |
12:48.06 | pdr | laomao_: that's probably where i was thinking of |
12:48.28 | Cope | laomao_: my mummy is a scorpio |
12:48.47 | laomao_ | deep fry her, then. Yummy:-) |
12:48.54 | Cope | lots of meat |
12:49.22 | Leeds | um... |
12:49.59 | laomao_ | I ate a lamb's brain once. It is my biggest food adventure so far |
12:50.32 | Leeds | Cope: keep an eye on her - she'll be nibbling william next! |
12:50.34 | rhowe | I saw (and heard!) someone suck a duck's brain out of its nostrils |
12:50.36 | laomao_ | Long long time ago, cope! |
12:50.50 | rhowe | Never looked at her quite the same since |
12:51.06 | Cope | i don't know what is in haggis, but that's probably the most offaly thing I have eaten |
12:51.09 | Cope | haggis is yummy |
12:51.20 | pdr | fish brain is nice too |
12:53.53 | laomao_ | Chinese likes fish head soup |
12:54.25 | pdr | rolly polly fish heads? |
12:54.28 | laomao_ | The dish was on 'Kill Bill' as well |
12:55.09 | laomao_ | Uma Thurman's master was killed by the poisonous fish head soup |
12:55.11 | pdr | Cope: you eat the fish, and then fight over the brain |
12:56.47 | rhowe | itsbruce: Gonna try moving bacula from sqlite to MySQL today |
12:57.05 | rhowe | itsbruce: Backups are taking too long, and I think it's due in part to the crappy machine I'm running it on. It's swapping a lot |
12:57.39 | rhowe | itsbruce: Figure if I move the database off to another box, and move the overseeing part, the director (which is fairly memory intensive) to somewhere else, things should be a bit better |
12:57.48 | rhowe | itsbruce: Then all the box is doing is managing the drives |
12:57.56 | rhowe | Should be capable of that |
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13:06.22 | JAV | hello |
13:07.29 | Leeds | good evening JAV |
13:10.31 | Leeds | Cope: where? |
13:11.46 | rhowe | hmm, looks like the Apache mod_auth_ldap might do what I want already |
13:28.38 | Cope | Leeds: wikipedia |
13:28.50 | Leeds | Cope: ah |
13:29.26 | wethrin | I did that yesterday |
13:29.30 | wethrin | although I also put 4 lemons in |
13:29.34 | Cope | yum |
13:29.37 | wethrin | Very |
13:29.49 | Cope | i would like one of those fruit squisher machines |
13:30.34 | Cope | was is expensiev? |
13:30.50 | wethrin | Just a pointy ribbed dome (for the fruit's pleasure) |
13:31.00 | pdr | my favourite is 45% orange, 45% apple, 9% lemon and 1% ginger |
13:31.08 | wethrin | Oooh. Interesting |
13:31.10 | Cope | yum yum |
13:31.11 | rhowe | whee, aria delivery |
13:31.19 | Cope | pdr: where did you obtain the device? |
13:31.22 | pdr | and yeah, it was expensive |
13:31.23 | wethrin | Although apples are more difficult to use with a juicer, due to lack of hard outer skin |
13:31.29 | pdr | amazon iirc |
13:31.41 | Cope | pdr: rough guide price? |
13:31.42 | pdr | it's named after some guy called anthony warrell |
13:32.00 | pdr | Cope: i can't remember, about 100-150 quid or so |
13:32.27 | Leeds | rhowe: ooh, toys |
13:32.28 | pdr | which is pretty fscking expensive, but it makes juice of anything |
13:32.36 | wethrin | Get a simple citrus fruit juicer for about £10 |
13:32.49 | laomao_ | cope: we have a juicer at home. Or it is not right sort? |
13:34.09 | rhowe | Leeds: I now own a copy of Windows XP Professional x64 edition |
13:34.22 | Leeds | rhowe: bad toy :-( |
13:34.28 | Cope | laomao_: i think ours is a blender |
13:34.51 | Cope | laomao_: i don't think it would squish up apples and bananas and stuff like the one pdr is talking abouy |
13:35.07 | rhowe | It could make smoothies though |
13:35.13 | Cope | it could |
13:36.07 | rhowe | Leeds: I finally made something out of your PC case btw :) |
13:36.19 | rhowe | Leeds: It's now got a P2 266 w/384M of RAM in it |
13:36.24 | Leeds | rhowe: good! |
13:36.26 | rhowe | Leeds: And either a 6 or 13G drive, not sure |
13:37.00 | laomao_ | cope: if you want a decent juicer, we will get you one. It will be nice to drink some cool juice in the summer |
13:37.10 | rhowe | Leeds: Once I've got XP installed on the Shuttle PC, I can dump the data off the drive in the P2 onto it, and then install something more sane on it |
13:37.27 | rhowe | laomao_: I find it hard to beat a bottle of water from the 'fridge |
13:37.46 | Leeds | rhowe: you could try using a big stick, for the beatings |
13:38.32 | itsbruce | Cope: haggis is just Sheep offal and oatmeal, really |
13:39.08 | itsbruce | I could give you the names of all the bits but it tends not to mean much to most people. |
13:39.21 | itsbruce | My grandfather was a butcher, otoh, so I know what lights are. |
13:40.02 | Leeds | hometime... bye folks |
13:42.50 | Cope | haggis is very nice |
13:43.25 | itsbruce | Especially with butter on it and accompanied by mashed neaps |
13:45.16 | Cope | I think I last had haggis at Babbity Bowsters |
13:49.31 | laomao_ | cope: laomo here |
14:42.19 | rhowe | itsbruce: hm.. I thought that the bacula database backup size was a bit too constant.. :) |
14:42.29 | rhowe | itsbruce: It had been backing up an incomplete database dump from April :) |
14:56.22 | rhowe | haah @ MP3 stream: http://211.234.113.252:8000 |
14:56.50 | eye69 | 16:55:05 [Quakenet] [DES0LATION(d@desolated.users.quakenet.org)] WAY TO BE A FUCKIGN IGGER |
14:56.53 | eye69 | 16:55:10 [Quakenet] [DES0LATION(d@desolated.users.quakenet.org)] YOU SACK OF HORSE SHIT |
14:57.12 | eye69 | Some people just can't take getting kicked for being an arse. |
15:04.45 | itsbruce | rhowe: And having it in mysql made this more clear? |
15:14.47 | rhowe | itsbruce: Well, having it in MySQL means that the backup script is no longer reliant on a file path staying the same |
15:15.26 | rhowe | itsbruce: Really, the database dump script should've bitched loudly when it couldn't find the database to dump, instead of silently failing |
15:19.02 | rhowe | itsbruce: Still, not too big a deal - there's a utility called bscan. You give it a tape and it reconstructs the database entries from that |
15:19.23 | rhowe | All we lost was the ability to perform a rapid restore in the event of the database going kaput |
15:23.01 | Cope | ah, that's all |
15:23.04 | Cope | ;-) |
15:23.42 | Cope | because we don't really keep backups to do rapid restores in the even of databases breaking, do we? |
15:23.56 | Cope | we just like to keep data to keep us amused... |
15:24.43 | rhowe | heh |
15:24.52 | rhowe | Well it would only take about half an hour to restore the database |
15:25.21 | rhowe | Since it currently takes about 14 hours to run the full backup (and presumably the same for a restore), it's pretty negligible |
15:25.59 | rhowe | Hoping that moving the director off to a faster machine will roughly halve our backup times |
15:26.10 | Cope | and no, why would read and write operations be at the same speed? |
15:26.36 | rhowe | I think the machine is slower than the tape drives at the moment :) |
15:26.50 | Cope | ah yes, the mega machine, with dual p133s |
15:27.00 | rhowe | Might be faster if it doesn't have to keep adding database entries during a restore |
15:27.08 | rhowe | Yep, that's the one |
15:28.40 | rhowe | It has a loadavg of 2.5 when running the backups |
15:28.50 | rhowe | So it's plainly underspecced for the task :) |
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16:14.15 | rhowe | Ah, it's done |
16:14.37 | rhowe | "ERROR 1064 at line 1: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'TRANSACTION' at line 1" |
16:14.46 | rhowe | heh, no, MySQL. You have an error in your SQL support :) |
16:20.59 | rhowe | hmm.. will it finish by half 5... I think it just might |
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17:36.23 | rhowe | <PROTECTED> |
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19:47.59 | rhowe | /dev/hdc3 xfs 144G 272K 144G 1% /usr/local/media |
19:48.00 | rhowe | whee :) |
19:50.19 | mozrat | somehow I doubt 272K really is 1% of 144G :) |
19:50.41 | rhowe | Close enough :) |
19:56.35 | rhowe | It's slow? :) |
19:57.00 | mozrat | :) |
19:57.04 | mozrat | something else |
19:57.31 | mozrat | the vacation plugin throws up FTP errors even though looking at a ethereal trace it actually works fine |
20:03.58 | rhowe | It opens more than one FTP connection IIRC |
20:04.07 | mozrat | yes it does |
20:04.31 | mozrat | but the warnings are things like: Warning: ftp_login(): Password required for davidrhodes. in /usr/share/squirrelmail/plugins/vacation/vac_init.php on line 59 |
20:04.38 | mozrat | which is correct! |
20:04.49 | mozrat | in the trace you can see it asking for a password and it gets it and carries |
20:04.50 | mozrat | on |
20:04.55 | rhowe | Ah right |
20:05.02 | rhowe | Looks like it isn't parsing the FTP response properly |
20:05.07 | rhowe | Typical PHP coder :) |
20:05.15 | mozrat | the problem seems to be (non) error messages being printed to the user interface |
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20:43.51 | mozrat | ah well - bug report filed anywya |
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21:31.42 | rhowe | hmm.. |
21:31.48 | rhowe | desktop not powering back up :/ |
21:33.41 | mozrat | d'oh |
21:37.00 | rhowe | Worse than that |
21:37.08 | rhowe | It means I have to use the Windows box |
21:38.02 | Agent99 | Or boot to a live *nix CD |
21:38.34 | rhowe | I'll stick sarge on here in a bit |
21:38.41 | rhowe | It's a fresh Windows install though, so still things to do to it |
21:38.54 | rhowe | A legit (purchased yesterday) copy of XP Pro x64 edition |
21:39.03 | Agent99 | Rhowe: what in particular dont you like about Windows? |
21:39.17 | rhowe | Agent99: It's not Gnome |
21:40.39 | Agent99 | Which limit yourself? Learn to use kde and explorer too. |
21:40.49 | Agent99 | <PROTECTED> |
21:41.11 | rhowe | Oh I can use Windows just fine. I know more about it than many Windows admins and users :) |
21:41.15 | rhowe | I just don't like it |
21:41.37 | mozrat | I don't think Windows is that functional |
21:41.55 | mozrat | it maybe ready for the desktop in a few releases time |
21:42.03 | rhowe | Windows is fine in general |
21:42.04 | Agent99 | mozrat: configure it properly and you'd be surprised |
21:42.07 | rhowe | But I just don't like it |
21:42.58 | mozrat | gotta go - argue later :) |
21:43.00 | rhowe | ATi's 64 bit Radeon drivers sure do suck |
21:43.09 | Agent99 | but i'm always alone defending my choice of opensource at wotk that it's nice to play devil for a change. |
21:43.15 | rhowe | The installer throws up a bunch of errors (the drivers still seem to get installed and work though) |
21:44.49 | gregj | nvidia support for opensource systems is much much better, ati sux |
21:45.44 | Agent99 | i guess that's the price you pay for buying/using bleeding edge |
21:46.22 | Agent99 | i never have install problems on my PII 450. :) |
21:47.26 | Agent99 | rhowe: fancy an exchange? |
21:50.03 | rhowe | Agent99: heh, this is a dual Celeron 400 that's dead |
21:50.24 | rhowe | The A64 3200+ is working fine |
21:51.20 | Agent99 | there's a dual Celeron 400 at work i'm trying to squeeze out of my boss. |
21:54.31 | rhowe | BP6? |
21:54.42 | Agent99 | rhowe: do you have any stats on iptables/pf/ipfw vs ISA server 2004? |
21:54.52 | rhowe | Agent99: None at all. Never seen or used ISA |
21:55.16 | gregj | ISA server ? that's m$ product |
21:55.43 | rhowe | Agent99: I don't think you can really compare them though - ISA does a lot more than iptables does |
21:56.52 | rhowe | No idea why, but the Windows box downloads a hell of a lot slower than any of my Linux boxes |
21:57.00 | rhowe | I wonder if the gigabit NIC doesn't like my 10/100 hub |
21:58.09 | Agent99 | setting NIC to auto negotiate should be fine. |
21:58.24 | rhowe | Should be, sure |
21:59.40 | rhowe | hm, no difference |
22:00.11 | Agent99 | check cable. we hade to replace a few of ours for brandnew cat53 pre-patched. |
22:00.27 | Agent99 | i guess that says alot about my cabling techniques. lol |
22:00.34 | rhowe | Unfortunately, this is my only cable that's long enough :) |
22:01.43 | Agent99 | cat53? where did that come from? |
22:02.17 | rhowe | cat53? |
22:02.56 | Agent99 | scrolling up, i seem to notice my spelling deteriorate |
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22:56.01 | rhowe | Windows++ |
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23:22.12 | gregj | http://www.compusmart.com/Product/Default.aspx?CatalogID=0&SupplierPartNo=750082&ShowSpecs=True |
23:22.18 | gregj | what do you guys think about this laptop |
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