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00:15.01Cope_cock
00:17.37gregjchicken sounds better ;)
00:21.10Cope_:-(
00:21.13Cope_wanker
00:22.29gregjwhat happend
00:25.25Cope_i bumped into the car in front of me in the balckwall tuinnel
00:25.35Cope_because i nodded off for a few secnds
00:29.54gregj:(
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04:26.37*** topic/#gllug is Greater London LUG. Next meeting: Saturday 11th June 2005; Web site: http://www.gllug.org.uk; Wiki: http://wiki.gllug.org.uk; Channel stats at http://www.jonmasters.org/irc/gllug; Pictures at http://gllug.org.uk/ircphoto.html [need new piccy's]
07:06.47*** join/#gllug morsing (~morsing@dsl-80-46-110-1.access.as9105.com)
07:06.58morsingmorning
07:11.12Leedshey
07:12.09morsingHow are you?
07:13.20morsingAnd how's the weather?
07:15.23morsingCan I connect to more than one server simultaniously with irssi?
07:15.50rhowemorsing: Sure
07:16.02rhowe08:15 -!- Aniverse: irc.aniverse.com:6667 (Aniverse)
07:16.03rhowe08:15 -!- freenode: irc.freenode.net:6667 (freenode)
07:16.03rhowe08:15 -!- EFNet: irc.efnet.net:6667 (EFNet)
07:16.04rhoweetc etc
07:16.29rhowe/connect -ircnet <name> <servername> IIRC
07:17.43LeedsI'm fine, the weather is hot (slightly cooler than before - maybe 30 degrees) and there was some serious thunder/lightning/rain last night
07:18.26morsingrhowe: What's the server name for the traditional IRC?
07:18.37morsingLeeds: Sounds good
07:18.42morsingircnet?
07:18.53Leedswhich "traditional IRC"?
07:19.02Leedsthere are a few old networks...
07:19.02morsingirc net
07:19.15morsingircnet.net?
07:19.20morsingI'll try
07:19.33Leedsundernet was the network I used to live on
07:19.59morsingAhh... EFnet!
07:20.02morsingThanks
07:20.26Leedsthere's also efnet :-) dalnet is slightly newer, but also one of the biggies
07:20.29morsingNothing happened?
07:21.03rhowe08:20 -!- Undernet: eu.undernet.org:6664 (Undernet)
07:21.03rhowe08:20 -!- GIMPNet: irc.gnome.org:6667 (GIMPNet)
07:21.03rhowe08:20 -!- ETG: irc.enterthegame.com:6667 (ETG)
07:21.03rhowe08:20 -!- DALnet: irc.dal.net:6667 (DALnet)
07:21.05rhowe08:20 -!- oftc: irc.oftc.net:6667 (oftc)
07:21.08rhoweThat's the rest of my list :)
07:21.32morsing[morsing] !irc.umich.edu To complete your connection to this server, type
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07:21.38morsingWhy?
07:22.15rhoweInstall an identd
07:22.55morsingWhich is?
07:23.00morsingA goblin?
07:23.12rhoweA little daemon which tells the IRC server what your username is
07:23.22rhoweSilly protocol, but some IRC servers require it
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07:45.43morsingLeeds!
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08:06.36laomao_hello, cope
08:06.41Cope_hello laomao_
08:15.37mozratmORNING fOLKS
08:15.49mozratGood morning
08:16.45laomao_morning, mozrat.
08:17.02laomao_Sunny day today
08:18.08mozratYes!
08:19.56laomao_Be extra kind to cope, today. He is recovering from his car damage last night
08:20.10mozratOh no.. what happened?
08:21.54laomao_Cope had a little car accident last night and bumped another car in the tunnel. Our car is quite damaged. He is very sad about it. maybe you send some comfort to him. He needs his friends for a bit support
08:22.15mozratI will... Poor Cope.
08:23.24laomao_But luckily nobody gets hurt and that is most important thing. I'm very grateful for that.
08:24.21mozratYes. Absolutely
08:37.10mozratCope - I had that once - I sent a document to colleagues with a txt extension written in vi. My manager emailed hit reply all (with the team cc'd) as said "It's obvious you wrote it in Word... why are you sending it as an attachment. Team.. just open it in word"
08:37.39mozratumm - "why are you sending it as an *txt* attachment"
08:39.18CopeI write everything in vi - and format it later or mark it up
08:47.08Copemmm marmite
08:47.56laomao_cope: marmite on toast?
08:48.58Copeyummy
08:50.04laomao_cope: now I'm totally confused about the name. I can not remember it is officially called marmite or tarmite?
08:50.14mozratheehee
08:55.58Copemarmite is the real name
09:05.17LeedsCope: my car wasn't badly damaged, but did you see what I did to my rental car in Israel?
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09:11.38laomao_what happened to your rental car, Leeds?
09:12.07Leedslaomao_: http://www.wanderingjew.co.uk/showimg.php?file=/Israel/IMG_0239.JPG and the photo afterwards... I had a little argument with a truck and a motorcycle
09:13.10morsingMmm... Garlic
09:14.02Leedsmmm... Chinese for lunch
09:14.11morsingLeeds: What gallery software do you use?
09:14.26Leedsmorsing: dalbum
09:15.15morsingDoes it automatically on the fly create thumbnails, etc...
09:15.56laomao_Poor leeds. DId you have to pay the rental car company a lot of pennies?
09:16.14Leedsmorsing: sure it does... you just drop the photos into a directory structure and it does the rest :-)
09:16.36Leedslaomao_: I did, rather... it made the cheap trip to Israel (staying with friends most of the time) rather less cheap...
09:17.04morsingLeeds: Cool
09:17.17morsingLeeds: Processor speed required?
09:17.30Leedsmorsing: the one thing it doesn't do nicely - in an end-user friendly way - is uploads
09:17.53Leedssorry - doesn't generate on the fly - you tell it to reindex once you've added stuff
09:28.51morsingLeeds: Good - I've only got a PII 233MHz
09:29.23Leedsseeya all tomorrow
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09:53.44morsingIt's Bruce!
10:00.01itsbruceIt is.  And off to a meeting
10:00.38rhowebugger
10:00.57rhowe$annoyinggit from uni who I bumped into at FOSDEM just found me on MSN
10:04.33Copelol
10:05.13rhoweCope: Finally read your CV :)
10:31.29wethrinHeh
10:47.47Copehello wethrin
10:48.54wethrinHi Cope
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10:51.07mozrat:)
10:51.11mozrat--Miaow
10:51.12wethrinHeh
10:51.53Cope1nice
10:52.31morsingRead from remote host bsd.morsing.cc: Connection reset by peer
10:54.11Copefstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0
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12:17.50morsingwethrin: which one are you going to?
12:19.05wethrinYes!
12:19.07wethrinWrong channel :)
12:22.19morsingwethrin: Indeed :-)
12:22.22Copetar: 0511-197 ./usr/local/libexec/gcc/powerpc-ibm-aix4.3.2.0/3.4.3/cc1: Cannot write data extracted with the tar command: There is not enough space in the file system.
12:22.28wethrinHeh
12:22.36wethrinGet more disk space
12:22.49morsingCope: chfs -a size=+1 /usr/local
12:22.56Cope:-)
12:23.07Copeaix++
12:23.24morsingMmm... AIX
12:24.36wethrinYeah! AIX!
12:25.12morsingWhy don't you?
12:25.22wethrinLack of machines
12:25.50morsingI've got one you can have an account on.
12:25.56morsingAnd what about your 7011?
12:26.27wethrinUmm. It's sitting at home
12:27.04Copewethrin: yes, i'll post something for you
12:27.14wethrinwoohoo!
12:27.54morsingbeer
12:29.00Copemmmm
12:29.02Copebeer
12:29.26wethrinMmmm. Beer
12:29.33wethrinCope: Could you send it to the department, please?
12:29.48wethrinI may be moving soon, so home wouldn't be the best place
12:30.16Copewethrin: the beer?
12:30.27Copeyou want me to send beer to durham?
12:30.31wethrinThe serial cable
12:30.34wethrinBut beer would be nice too :)
12:30.35Copeah
12:31.03wethrinBut don't worry about the beer
12:33.38wethrinw00t!
12:33.57morsingwethrin: Can you get beer in Durham?
12:34.20wethrinYse
12:35.09morsingCan I come for a beer some weekend?
12:36.40wethrinYes
12:36.57wethrinBut not for the next few, as I'm busy
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12:58.36rhowemm, bagel, houmus and bacon
12:58.42rhowehow very non-kosher
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13:20.00rhowe_erm.. why did this box just reboot?
13:20.30Copewhy indeed
13:21.09rhowe_Unfortunately, to answer that question, I would require some kind of log
13:21.33rhoweSomething like a logged serial console
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14:10.12itsbruceKnock it back at the smtp conversation stage.  That way you minimise collateral spam.
14:11.20rhoweWould be nice, wouldn't it?
14:11.35rhoweSeems that we can't do that because we use amavis (I have no idea if that's bullcrap or not)
14:11.45rhoweamavis+postfix, rather
14:12.02rhoweApparently it's either "generate bounce" or say "OK" but then silently discard
14:20.49itsbruceI don't know about Postfix 2 but Postfix 1.x certainly has to accept a message before it can filter it.
14:21.17itsbruceI *think* Postfix 2 might be better, in the sense that I think they put in filtering hooks but thensaid "
14:21.45itsbruceThat is to say, filtering and routing hooks and then leave it to you to write the scripts.
14:28.23itsbruceAhah, Postfix 2.1 has a pre-queue filter.  So you can do it.  But they don't recommend it for high traffic sites.
14:28.59itsbruceExim is much better at that kind of thing, but then the architecture is entirely different (monolithic suid binary)
14:33.34CopeI really ought to get the exim book
14:41.47itsbruceThe exim4 book is only useful to people who already understand Exim 3 very well.  And even then, it's not well laid out so you have to read it all the way through and then repeat bits
14:49.21Copewould it be a valid gripe to grumble about simon rumble's signature being longer than his 6 line email.
14:50.18Cope16 lines worth (including white space)
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15:08.22*** topic/#gllug is Greater London LUG. Next meeting: Saturday 11th June 2005; Web site: http://www.gllug.org.uk; Wiki: http://wiki.gllug.org.uk; Channel stats at http://www.jonmasters.org/irc/gllug; Pictures at http://gllug.org.uk/ircphoto.html [need new piccy's]
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15:32.51rhoweitsbruce: OK, I've now moved the bacula director to a faster box (actually a Xen virtual machine on a faster box)
15:33.19rhoweitsbruce: Not using MySQL yet, as I had some problems importing the SQLite dataset into MySQL, but that's a job for next week
15:33.44rhoweitsbruce: Need to add a partition to my desktop to handle the 600Mb database dump I need to edit up :)
15:34.57itsbruceYou need to document all this for potential fellow sufferers.  None of it seems to be adequately documented by the bacula people
15:42.11rhoweThe SQLite -> MySQL stuff?
15:42.53rhoweWell, I've already provided additions to the bacula docs (mainly a decent Windows FileSet, but also a caveat on 'max job run time' settings)
15:42.54itsbruceWell, your whole experience in getting bacula to do anything
15:43.08rhoweThe bacula docs are actually quite good, I find
15:43.11itsbruceBecause it seems to be fairly counter-intuitive
15:44.03rhoweAnd Kern is quite willing to accept additions and amendments
15:44.15rhoweI'm actually now the moderator for bacula-users and bacula-devel :)
15:46.12rhoweNow I've moved the configuration across, and also changed all the passwords to be something secure (instead of 'b4ckm3up' :), I'm just waiting to see what breaks on tonight's backups
15:46.28rhoweThere were quite a lot of things to change in the configuration file, and no doubt I forgot some of them :)
15:49.32rhoweAh, and suddenly work seems a happier place
15:49.40rhowe(yes, that's right, my boss just went home :)
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21:49.22gregjhttp://www.getodd.com/raz/sickday/sickday.html
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22:50.19*** topic/#gllug is Greater London LUG. Next meeting: Saturday 11th June 2005; Web site: http://www.gllug.org.uk; Wiki: http://wiki.gllug.org.uk; Channel stats at http://www.jonmasters.org/irc/gllug; Pictures at http://gllug.org.uk/ircphoto.html [need new piccy's]

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