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07:20.13 | mozrat | Good morning |
07:22.05 | rhowe | Morning |
07:22.21 | rhowe | Going to see Sandra in 12 hours :) |
07:23.09 | mozrat | :D |
07:23.34 | rhowe | She still has a bf though ;/ |
07:23.46 | mozrat | Bah - mere details |
07:23.50 | rhowe | Indeed |
07:24.01 | rhowe | He treats her like crap anyhow, so of course she'd be far better off with me |
07:24.10 | mozrat | of course |
07:24.20 | mozrat | where does she live? |
07:24.26 | rhowe | Loughborough |
07:24.29 | rhowe | ish |
07:24.42 | rhowe | But she will probably be moving at the end of the year |
07:24.51 | mozrat | *nods* |
07:24.59 | rhowe | She wants to buy a house, but isn't quite sure how to go about getting ~ GBP 100k out of China |
07:25.21 | mozrat | yeah - I can imagine that would be a problem |
07:25.51 | rhowe | The Chinese banks want to charge 3% handling fee |
07:26.03 | rhowe | Anyway, if I don't do this washing up now, it won't get done |
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07:42.06 | mozrat | Good lord... it's Morsing |
07:42.11 | morsing | Oh dear |
07:59.21 | Cope | good morning |
07:59.48 | mozrat | Morning Cope - sorry to hear about the jam jar |
07:59.57 | mozrat | Is the damage repairable? |
08:00.22 | Cope | yeah - nothing too bad; headlight, bumper, bonnet and stuff |
08:00.50 | mozrat | eek - that sucks |
08:02.22 | laomao_ | .hello |
08:15.00 | Cope | hello love |
08:26.30 | Leeds | Cope: hello darling |
08:27.39 | laomao_ | Leeds: stop sweet talking. |
08:27.53 | Leeds | laomao_: sorry :-) |
08:27.53 | mozrat | Leeds is such a smoothie |
08:34.01 | morsing | onnection to mamgp201 closed. |
08:34.10 | morsing | orry |
08:34.15 | eye69 | morsing: Interesting. |
08:34.24 | eye69 | orry to you too |
08:39.05 | rhowe | Cope: Was your regular expression 's/^.//'? :) |
08:39.21 | Cope | no |
08:39.31 | rhowe | Oh, so it didn't infect morsing's IRC client then |
08:39.34 | Cope | at present its sed '/9:[0-9][0-9]*:[0-9][0-9]* P/s/9:/21:/' < working_ir |
08:40.35 | Cope | i'm now trying to decide if its best to do this in a script, and pass an incerementing number to the sed line's regex |
08:49.07 | rhowe | I'd have to open the book on my desk to grok that script |
08:51.25 | rhowe | (sed & awk) |
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08:59.00 | Leeds | oops |
08:59.19 | Cope_ | well it just hung, and screen -rd hasn't reattached it |
08:59.25 | Cope_ | which is a significant pain in the arse |
09:01.53 | morsing | rhowe: What's your coordinates please? |
09:03.49 | Cope_ | sed '/[ 0-9]*:[0-9][0-9]*:[0-9][0-9]* P/{s/ 1:/ 13:/;t;s/ 3:/ 15:/;t;s/ 4:/ 16:/;t;s/ 5:/ 17:/;t;s/ 6:/ 18:/;t;s/ 8:/ 20:/;t;s/ 9:/ 21:/;t;s/ 10:/ 22:/;t;s/ 11:/ 23:/;t;s/ 12:/ 00:/}' |
09:03.53 | rhowe | morsing: SE1 1YT |
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09:08.25 | Leeds | so... are there such things as combined wireless access point and analog modem? |
09:08.52 | Cope_ | any ideas on how to recover my screen session? |
09:09.43 | Leeds | I assume screen itself is still running? |
09:10.08 | highbury | Leeds: You can get wireless access ports with usb ports which allegedly can have a modem connected |
09:10.26 | highbury | I've read about them but not sure who's |
09:10.35 | Cope_ | Leeds: yeah: |
09:11.11 | Leeds | highbury: I know there were ADSL 'routers' which could have the old frog plugged into them... not heard of analog ones - you'd need to setup the connection somewhere... |
09:11.23 | Leeds | actually - didn't the original apple airport have an optional modem? |
09:11.27 | morsing | rhowe: Coming tomorrow? |
09:11.35 | Cope_ | sanelson 30196 0.0 0.7 2808 952 pts/11 S+ 08:55 0:00 screen -rd |
09:11.39 | Leeds | Cope_: is screen doing anything particularly interesting if you truss/strace it? |
09:13.09 | Cope_ | attach: ptrace(PTRACE_ATTACH, ...): Operation not permitted |
09:13.10 | Cope_ | attach: ptrace(PTRACE_ATTACH, ...): Operation not permitted |
09:14.54 | Leeds | yeah, the airport does it, but I don't really want to spend $200 |
09:15.01 | Leeds | Cope_: it's setuid |
09:15.29 | Cope_ | Process 30196 attached - interrupt to quit |
09:15.30 | Cope_ | write(3, "\0gsm\7\0\0\0/dev/pts/11\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 12336 |
09:16.14 | Leeds | that's it? |
09:16.22 | Cope_ | that's all that is happening |
09:16.49 | Leeds | would it be a big deal if that screen session died? |
09:16.57 | Cope_ | pretty big |
09:17.30 | Leeds | hmm... |
09:17.30 | Cope_ | would lose at least 30 mins not yet saved work in several vi sessions and a spreadsheet |
09:18.10 | Leeds | wondering if there are signals you can send to screen to tell it to disconnect - they might get through if it's a bit wedged... on the other hand, they might kill it |
09:18.22 | Cope_ | yeah I wondered that |
09:19.22 | Leeds | on the gripping hand, if you've lost it, you've lost it and you've not much to lose trying to reclaim it |
09:19.53 | Leeds | anyway, time for my lesson... good luck and I'll be back |
09:21.24 | Cope_ | ok |
09:24.13 | wethrin | Blah |
09:27.28 | Cope_ | sed: -e expression #1, char 53: unknown option to `s' |
09:27.37 | Cope_ | sed '/\([ 0-9]*:[0-9][0-9]*:[0-9][0-9]*\) [AP]M/{s//\1/ 1:/ 13:/;t;s/ 3:/ 15:/;t;s/ 4:/ 16:/;t;s/ 5:/ 17:/;t;s/ 6:/ 18:/;t;s/ 8:/ 20:/;t;s/ 9:/ 21:/;t;s/ 10:/ 22:/;t;s/ 11:/ 23:/;t;s/ 12:/ 00:/}' < working_ir |
09:27.44 | wethrin | MY EYES! |
09:27.56 | Cope_ | yes - can I borrow them |
09:28.02 | Cope_ | what have I overlooked |
09:28.23 | wethrin | That expresiion pains me |
09:28.37 | Cope_ | there's a missing s i think |
09:28.45 | wethrin | Or too many s's? |
09:28.47 | highbury | you can lay that out more readably |
09:32.04 | highbury | if you do you should see some basic errors |
09:32.18 | Cope_ | there's one error - all working |
09:32.25 | Cope_ | I missed out an s |
09:33.03 | highbury | and 14 and 19 |
09:33.04 | Cope_ | but i'd be interested to hear how you'd set it out - i've only ever done it one one massive line, so I am sure I am making life hard for my eyes |
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09:33.31 | Cope_ | no 14 and 19 are left out on purpose |
09:33.32 | highbury | give me two lines of input and I'll test my version out |
09:36.17 | highbury | leeds have you read Bob Cringleys Apple/Intel comments http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20050609.html mighty thought provoking |
09:36.39 | Cope_ | leftstring B95 = "5/29/2005 9:42:37 AM" |
09:36.39 | Cope_ | leftstring B96 = "5/29/2005 9:43:07 AM" |
09:36.40 | Cope_ | leftstring B97 = "5/29/2005 9:43:07 AM" |
09:36.40 | Cope_ | leftstring B98 = "5/30/2005 12:04:16 PM" |
09:36.40 | Cope_ | leftstring B101 = "5/29/2005 9:32:20 PM" |
09:36.45 | Cope_ | for example |
09:39.08 | highbury | why not 14 and 19? |
09:40.00 | Cope_ | well because on this occasion they aren't needed - its a specific solution to a specific problem; having them in would do no harm though |
09:40.14 | Cope_ | and would amke it reuseable |
09:40.18 | highbury | safest |
09:42.13 | highbury | give me 5 |
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09:56.06 | highbury | echo ' \ |
09:56.06 | highbury | leftstring B95 = "5/29/2005 9:42:37 AM |
09:56.06 | highbury | leftstring B96 = "5/29/2005 9:43:07 AM |
09:56.06 | highbury | leftstring B97 = "5/29/2005 9:43:07 AM |
09:56.06 | highbury | leftstring B98 = "5/30/2005 12:04:16 PM |
09:56.07 | highbury | leftstring B101 = "5/29/2005 9:32:20 PM |
09:56.09 | highbury | ' \ |
09:56.11 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
09:56.13 | highbury | s/ PM//; |
09:56.17 | highbury | s/ 1:/ 13:/;t; |
09:56.19 | highbury | s/ 2:/ 14:/;t; |
09:56.21 | highbury | s/ 3:/ 15:/;t; |
09:56.23 | highbury | s/ 4:/ 16:/;t; |
09:56.25 | highbury | s/ 5:/ 17:/;t; |
09:56.27 | highbury | s/ 6:/ 18:/;t; |
09:56.29 | highbury | s/ 6:/ 19:/;t; |
09:56.30 | eye69 | Having fun? |
09:56.31 | highbury | s/ 8:/ 20:/;t; |
09:56.33 | highbury | s/ 9:/ 21:/;t; |
09:56.35 | highbury | s/ 10:/ 22:/;t; |
09:56.37 | highbury | s/ 11:/ 23:/;t; |
09:56.39 | highbury | s/ 12:/ 00:/;t; |
09:56.41 | highbury | }' \ |
09:56.43 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
09:56.47 | highbury | s/ AM//; |
09:56.49 | highbury | }' |
09:56.51 | highbury | # with actually a few more tabs to indent the s/'s |
09:57.23 | highbury | easier in perl, but I'm too rusty to bother showing you |
10:00.35 | Cope_ | and is puzzling over it |
10:00.46 | highbury | actually the trailing semicolons are redundant |
10:01.04 | highbury | but not the ones before the t's |
10:18.37 | Cope_ | highbury: in my case I now have some times that look like 9:12:12 - these should be 09:12:12 etc etc |
10:19.08 | Cope_ | Something like sed '/ [0-9]:/s/ 9/ 09/' works fine, but in this case is it best to simple do as before, change 1 - 01; 2 - 02; or is there a more programmatic way of achieving this? |
10:22.21 | highbury | cope: I'm working on a new version |
10:24.47 | pdr | printf %02d |
10:26.46 | pdr | or just use the "date" command |
10:27.15 | highbury | yeah fix the brain damaged piece of software writing the log! |
10:28.18 | pdr | date -d $intime +"%x %X" |
10:28.49 | pdr | or even +%c |
10:29.22 | Cope_ | highbury: the damaged software is me |
10:29.33 | highbury | you should always write dates YYYY/mm/dd |
10:29.42 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
10:29.42 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
10:29.42 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
10:29.42 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
10:29.42 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
10:29.43 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
10:29.45 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
10:29.46 | Cope_ | highbury: yes, but tell siebel that |
10:29.47 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
10:29.49 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
10:29.51 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
10:29.53 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
10:29.57 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
10:29.59 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
10:30.05 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
10:30.07 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
10:30.19 | wethrin | Surely YYYY-MM-DD ? |
10:30.25 | highbury | now I'm not sure whether multiple -e commands is less efficient than the "t" commands |
10:30.49 | highbury | hmmm, there is an ISO standard I'm not sure of the number |
10:31.14 | highbury | yeah slashes or hyphens, I don't know if it matters |
10:31.55 | Cope_ | anyway the point is the source data was in a nasty format, and I had moved it to a spreadsheet, made some mistakes in organising, and found I coudn't sort the column because the dates were stupif |
10:32.12 | highbury | I got caught out on the final line needs a back-slash before the ? I'm not sure whether that's a gnu specific *feature* |
10:33.47 | wethrin | I think ISO standard uses dashes, BICBW |
10:36.45 | Cope_ | Leeds: so... signalling the b0rked screen sesison |
10:37.07 | Leeds | Cope_: any luck? |
10:38.21 | Cope_ | Leeds: well not sure what signals to try sending it - just a SIGHUP? |
10:38.30 | Leeds | does the manual suggest anything? |
10:41.33 | Cope_ | Leeds: not that I can see |
10:42.09 | Leeds | you can try HUP, but if it's not documented, there's a better chance of it dying, I suppose |
10:42.22 | Cope_ | Process 18164 attached - interrupt to quit |
10:42.22 | Cope_ | write(4, "\33[H\33[2J\33[37m\33[44m Welcome to #se"..., 34671) = ? ERESTARTSYS (To be restarted) |
10:42.25 | Cope_ | --- SIGHUP (Hangup) @ 0 (0) --- |
10:42.28 | Cope_ | write(4, "\33[H\33[2J\33[37m\33[44m Welcome to #se"..., 34671 |
10:42.49 | rhowe | ^q? :) |
10:42.54 | Cope_ | ? |
10:42.57 | rhowe | Or ^a^q? |
10:43.06 | rhowe | Xon/Xoff making it appear hung? |
10:43.18 | Cope_ | i'm not connected to the session |
10:45.46 | highbury | cope: replace the last line with the following |
10:45.55 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
10:45.55 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
10:45.55 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
10:47.44 | highbury | nope sorry ... |
10:47.59 | Cope_ | :) |
10:51.36 | highbury | try |
10:51.38 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
10:51.38 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
10:51.38 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
10:51.58 | highbury | never underestimate the value of a decent test-suite |
10:54.46 | Leeds | Cope: I think you may have to reconcile yourself to the loss of your screen session, unless you want to get into some serious debugging with a good chance of losing it anyway |
10:55.37 | highbury | Just HUP eveything in sight |
10:56.41 | Cope_ | :) |
10:57.00 | Cope_ | ooh |
10:57.28 | Cope_ | one program under screen was fucked, sent a HUP to that, and screen came back |
10:57.47 | Cope_ | woo! |
10:58.11 | Leeds | woo! |
10:58.44 | wethrin | Yay! |
11:02.31 | Leeds | ah, now there's a slogan if ever I heard one: "It could be worse. It could be Windows." |
11:07.36 | Leeds | well there's something I've not seen before... |
11:08.14 | Leeds | Friday afternoon is payroll time, so all the people in the office here just got up, grabbed a little tray of payslips/packets and marched out the door together to go give them to the sewing girls |
11:08.14 | Cope | highbury: teh latest recipe still leaves AM after 2 digit times <13 |
11:30.11 | Cope | to which he cheerfully agreed! |
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12:04.39 | highbury | add as second line |
12:04.42 | highbury | <PROTECTED> |
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12:47.58 | Leeds | have fun tomorrow folks - well, as much as you can have, knowing I'm not there... |
12:48.00 | Leeds | :-) |
14:35.58 | highbury | itsbruce: have you posted to the news groups? |
14:45.27 | itsbruce | Going to do that now |
15:06.04 | highbury | comp.os.linux.announce (though probably too late) also uk.comp.os.linux (might be in time) |
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15:41.03 | laomao_ | cope: laomao and william return |
15:42.44 | Cope | nice |
15:43.00 | pdr | pubtime. |
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16:09.11 | laomao_ | laomao cries aloud |
16:09.47 | laomao_ | It is so hurting that people just don't accept you no matter how hard I try |
16:13.13 | rhowe | I find that loud death metal helps in such situations |
16:14.09 | laomao_ | I do want to kill myself if there is no WIlliam |
16:14.21 | rhowe | But there is William |
16:14.45 | laomao_ | For him, I have to take so much shits from people |
16:14.46 | rhowe | Though even without William, what good would the whole suicide thing do? |
16:14.56 | rhowe | You do? |
16:15.47 | laomao_ | Living everyday with people humilating me, I rather die with my indignance |
16:16.05 | rhowe | Humiliating you? |
16:16.40 | laomao_ | I have been swollowing so much shits. I feel so unbearable |
16:17.47 | laomao_ | I try very hard to be kind and nice to people. They just can not treat me good no mat |
16:18.21 | rhowe | laomao_: But we are nice people |
16:18.38 | laomao_ | I'm not talking about you |
16:19.07 | laomao_ | Maybe you tell me if I am in the right to die |
16:20.32 | rhowe | Well, everyone dies, but I think it would be very silly for you to accelerate the process |
16:20.58 | laomao_ | nobody can understand how I feel. |
16:21.25 | rhowe | I'm sure that's not true |
16:21.27 | laomao_ | When I'm so hurt and hopeless, people still joke around |
16:21.38 | laomao_ | That is not kind |
16:21.59 | rhowe | No, there are times when jokes aren't appropriate |
16:22.35 | laomao_ | never mind. see you |
16:22.42 | rhowe | That still leaves 8 minutes |
16:41.14 | George | I WANT TO KILL EVERYONE |
16:45.55 | JAV | what a happy afternoon here :D |
17:09.40 | gregj | :D |
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19:48.48 | George | hrmm |
19:48.52 | George | nobody interesting around then? |
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