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| 05:04.13 | morsing | Leeds! Morning |
| 05:46.44 | Leeds | morsing! goodbye! |
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| 07:22.31 | mozrat | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:23.55 | pdr | morning |
| 07:29.28 | pdr | how are we this morning? |
| 07:34.45 | mozrat | We are fine thanks |
| 07:34.58 | mozrat | peanut butter bagel and coffee being my main focus so far |
| 07:36.40 | pdr | yum |
| 07:37.07 | gregj | why ? |
| 07:37.16 | gregj | no nice australian chicks around ? |
| 07:37.16 | gregj | :] |
| 07:37.30 | pdr | :-) |
| 07:37.40 | pdr | been going out with a lovely little german girl lately |
| 07:37.49 | gregj | oh |
| 07:37.56 | gregj | I am in Canada now, but out of luck |
| 07:38.08 | gregj | for some reason, I am not able to pick up english speaking girls |
| 07:38.30 | gregj | when I came back to PL, bang, within a month, few girls to choose from |
| 07:41.13 | gregj | probably i have to take a lesson on how to pickup an english speaking chick ;) |
| 07:42.33 | mozrat | they have lessons now?? |
| 07:42.47 | gregj | just pissing |
| 07:42.53 | mozrat | oh :( |
| 07:43.14 | gregj | I mean, joking |
| 07:43.33 | gregj | but seriously, I wouldn't mind to be told what to say in english :-) |
| 07:43.51 | gregj | althou some friends tell me that i should take advantage of the fact that I don't speak english very well |
| 07:44.13 | mozrat | heh |
| 07:44.20 | mozrat | that may be true actually |
| 07:44.50 | gregj | I don't think it will work in long run anyway |
| 07:45.32 | mozrat | be fun though |
| 07:46.04 | gregj | yeah, "heyi shchik, huw aer you" |
| 07:46.14 | gregj | kinda of "me speaks no engleze" |
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| 07:46.23 | gregj | -pl ? |
| 07:46.32 | gregj | |09:46 < gregj> yeah, "heyi shchik, huw aer you" |
| 07:46.32 | gregj | |09:46 < gregj> kinda of "me speaks no engleze" |
| 07:46.39 | gregj | in case you didn't "hear" |
| 07:46.40 | mozrat | yeah, didn't get around to changing my nick since I was in Poland |
| 07:46.47 | mozrat | in my .irssi config file |
| 07:47.01 | mozrat | How can I connect to a second IRC server in irssi? |
| 07:47.08 | gregj | no idea |
| 07:47.15 | gregj | somehow you can, but I don't know |
| 07:47.19 | gregj | anyways, I gotta run |
| 07:47.27 | mozrat | see ya |
| 07:47.27 | gregj | it's almost one pm |
| 07:47.37 | gregj | needs some sleep |
| 07:47.53 | mozrat | nn gregj |
| 07:47.58 | gregj | nn folks |
| 07:50.24 | pdr | 1pm? |
| 07:50.39 | pdr | night greg |
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| 07:53.35 | itsbruce | Morning |
| 07:54.09 | mozrat | Morning |
| 07:54.18 | pdr | mornin |
| 07:54.59 | mozrat | nee! |
| 07:57.02 | pdr | noooo! |
| 07:57.39 | laomao_ | mozrat, /connect new.irc.server; then ctrl-x to switch between servers |
| 07:57.54 | laomao_ | (said Cope) |
| 07:58.20 | pdr | iirc, you have to create a new "window" first (but i don't use irssi anymore) |
| 07:59.21 | mozrat | laomao_: it kicked me off freenode doing that |
| 07:59.33 | laomao_ | hmm |
| 08:00.12 | laomao_ | it may be /server instead of /connect |
| 08:00.29 | mozrat | I think I used /server... let me try again |
| 08:00.54 | laomao_ | then you should have used /connect, as I initially said. |
| 08:01.01 | mozrat | aye |
| 08:01.05 | laomao_ | Don't give false feedback! Naughty mozrat! |
| 08:01.10 | mozrat | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:01.18 | mozrat | Sorry :| |
| 08:01.19 | mozrat | :) |
| 08:01.44 | mozrat | (wow - tough crowd_ |
| 08:01.45 | mozrat | ) |
| 08:01.49 | pdr | :-) |
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| 08:03.54 | William2 | hmm - anyway - Daddy is off to fix the car. |
| 08:04.00 | William2 | bye bye |
| 08:08.40 | pdr | wtf? |
| 08:20.44 | mozrat | Whatho Leeds |
| 08:21.03 | Leeds | oh yes indeedy! |
| 08:22.31 | Leeds | so how's London on this fine Sri Lankan afternoon? |
| 08:23.21 | mozrat | appears to be ticking over quite nicely |
| 08:25.07 | Leeds | you mean... it's not gone completely down the tubes without me there? |
| 08:27.01 | pdr | it's nice and sunny this morning in fact |
| 08:27.20 | pdr | but will apparently go the way of recent days and get cold and cloudy by lunchtime |
| 08:27.54 | mozrat | There was a 'Bring Leeds Home' protest march in Parliament Square over the weekend but only a hundred thousand or so turned up... not as big as the weekend before |
| 08:28.05 | Leeds | :-) |
| 08:28.29 | mozrat | and Bob Geldof has arranged some sort of 'Richard Cohen Tribute' concert in Hyde Park on July 2nd |
| 08:29.47 | pdr | they're announcing the lucky winners today too! |
| 08:29.53 | Leeds | okay, so tell me this: why, according to the Economist, does Qatar have the cheapest Big Macs in the world? |
| 08:30.34 | pdr | qatar has cheap beef? |
| 08:31.27 | mozrat | Hmmm - rdesktop seems to throw metacity into a complete paddy fit |
| 08:31.44 | mozrat | metacity crashes and restarts constantly when I run rdesktop |
| 08:31.56 | Leeds | pdr: except that if you read the article within which the index is featured, you'll see that ingredient costs make up a minority of the cost of the burger, and differences in costs like that are erased relatively quickly |
| 08:34.58 | pdr | mmm... fit paddy of beef |
| 08:35.07 | pdr | interesting, so what's the major cost then? |
| 08:35.39 | pdr | and what do you care, they're not exactly kosher, and to be fair taste like crap anyway |
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| 08:37.35 | pdr | with all this talk of food, i think i must go get some food |
| 08:39.20 | mozrat | Hello Morsing |
| 08:40.22 | morsing | Hello mozrat. Did we meet on Saturday? |
| 08:40.41 | mozrat | morsing: no :( |
| 08:40.46 | morsing | Anyone know where I can get the slides for the Xen presentation? |
| 08:49.46 | Leeds | have morsing and mozrat never met? |
| 08:50.55 | morsing | Leeds: No :-( |
| 08:53.07 | pdr | Leeds: they've never been seen in the same place at the same time ever |
| 08:53.40 | pdr | and nasrat for that matter |
| 08:53.51 | pdr | which is tarsan backwards |
| 08:54.02 | Leeds | luap? |
| 08:54.14 | pdr | yup |
| 08:55.13 | mozrat | To be honest we are one and the same person |
| 08:55.22 | mozrat | sitting on a PC with 2 screen sessions runninhg |
| 08:55.53 | pdr | i thought as much |
| 08:56.01 | morsing | pdr: I've met Nasrat several times |
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| 09:07.51 | morsing | mozrat, Cope: Will be coming for drinks on my birthday in July? |
| 09:07.56 | rhowe | Morning Leeds |
| 09:08.05 | morsing | Yay - Leeds is up! |
| 09:08.21 | mozrat | morsing: sure! |
| 09:08.32 | Leeds | fscking unreliable laptio |
| 09:08.54 | Leeds | laptop too |
| 09:09.30 | mozrat | Leeds, the thunkpad? |
| 09:10.00 | Leeds | the borrowed replacement thunkpad - mine, presumably with a replacement hdd, is sitting waiting for me in Colombo |
| 09:10.10 | Leeds | solving crimes with a dirty mac... |
| 09:10.43 | Leeds | speaking of macs, saw a room-full of G5 machines in their natural habitat this morning - an industrial-scale print shop :-) |
| 09:14.58 | rhowe | hm, Nildram are adding wildcard DNS entries, a la Verisign SiteFinder |
| 09:17.04 | rhowe | heh, in response to the wiki question - µWiki! http://orion.siksai.co.uk/wiki :) |
| 09:26.23 | pdr | wikis suck |
| 09:34.03 | rhowe | pdr: Mine's more a web-based text editor :) |
| 09:37.13 | mozrat | run |
| 09:37.40 | mozrat | surely if you are going to do some pen testing you are supposed to be able to work this kind of stuff out |
| 09:40.09 | Leeds | windows is ont an approriate platform for software development |
| 09:40.21 | Leeds | ont=not |
| 09:40.33 | mozrat | software development=anything |
| 09:51.44 | morsing | is there a #xen? |
| 09:52.58 | pdr | rhowe: why not just use a real version-control system? |
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| 10:25.19 | mozrat | hello globbitz |
| 10:35.00 | Cope | Bad news on the car :-( |
| 10:35.10 | Cope | more than twice as expensive as I had expected. |
| 10:35.57 | Cope | :-( |
| 10:41.54 | globbitz | hello mozrat |
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| 10:55.38 | mozrat | ope oh dear |
| 10:55.38 | Leeds | as/400 lesson over for today |
| 10:55.45 | mozrat | Cope oh dear |
| 10:55.47 | Leeds | Cope: :-( |
| 10:56.05 | Cope | £650.00 :-( |
| 10:56.29 | mozrat | Cope, did you have 3rd party only insurance? |
| 10:56.53 | mozrat | ;( |
| 10:57.12 | Leeds | ugh |
| 10:57.48 | Cope | i think the way I see it is its like someone saying: do you want to buy a car worth £1200 for £650? |
| 10:58.39 | Cope | aside from the unfortunate issue that I already own the car, but as the car is currently useless, that can be ignored. |
| 11:10.00 | Leeds | unfortunately, it's one of those situations where you probably have to just pay :-( |
| 11:14.29 | Cope | I could pay, and then sell the car. |
| 11:14.42 | Cope | and no longer drive a car - would save some money that way. |
| 11:14.56 | Cope | However, laomao is not keen on this idea. |
| 11:26.10 | Leeds | no longer driving a car is a significant life change... |
| 11:27.31 | rhowe | Cope: Get a motorbike! |
| 11:27.52 | rhowe | pdr: I felt like writing a wiki :) |
| 11:29.21 | pdr | rhowe: what does a wiki provide that's worth having? |
| 11:32.45 | Leeds | Cope: slap? slip? |
| 11:32.52 | Cope | slab! |
| 11:33.13 | Leeds | so the slap was a slip instead of a slab? |
| 11:33.40 | Cope | the slap was a slip which should have been a slab. |
| 11:34.03 | Cope | Leeds: indeed, not driving would be a very significant life change. |
| 11:34.23 | Cope | but driving is evil! |
| 11:34.26 | Cope | and so are cars! |
| 11:35.46 | Leeds | Cope: you've been listening (or possibly talking) to rhowe too much |
| 11:36.07 | Leeds | then again, did you see my comment earlier about my little walk this morning? |
| 11:44.26 | rhowe | pdr: Coding fun :) |
| 11:49.10 | Leeds | Cope: I went to see a local supplier (serious industrial print shop - nice hardcore tech), and both when I left here, and when I left there, people were suprised that I took the 5 minute walk rather than a vehicle with aircon |
| 12:00.05 | Leeds | argh, bloody non-tabbed browser |
| 12:02.26 | morsing | Anyone here using Xen? |
| 12:04.11 | Leeds | and argh, being !root on a machine which doesn't have useful things like apache installed/running |
| 12:04.19 | morsing | Mmm... Xen |
| 12:06.11 | Leeds | and argh... it thinks it's the 70s! |
| 12:06.35 | Cope | lol |
| 12:07.13 | rhowe | morsing: Yes |
| 12:07.19 | rhowe | morsing: Though I didn't set it up |
| 12:07.22 | Leeds | on the other hand, treating it as a black box flat-file server, makes it vaguely bearable |
| 12:09.18 | morsing | rhowe: How did you set it up? |
| 12:09.26 | rhowe | morsing: $boss did it |
| 12:09.48 | morsing | Does it work well? What do you run on it? How many partitions? |
| 12:10.09 | mozrat | morsing: I don't know if it was mentioned at GLLUG but SUSE 9.3 ships with Xen installed now |
| 12:10.33 | rhowe | morsing: Seems to run just fine, we're using it on a Compaq DL380 G2 dual P3 1GHz |
| 12:10.38 | rhowe | morsing: 1.5GB RAM IIRC |
| 12:10.41 | morsing | mozrat: That's really cool. So you just enable it at installation time? |
| 12:11.00 | rhowe | morsing: 6 partitions |
| 12:11.31 | mozrat | morsing: On the install I didn't see it ( I was looking out for it ) but it is in Yast when you have finished |
| 12:12.01 | morsing | mozrat: So it must have installed the hypervisor without asking? Odd choice |
| 12:12.03 | rhowe | Debian has had xen packages for a while IIRC |
| 12:12.56 | mozrat | rhowe: but only in sid right? |
| 12:13.04 | morsing | rhowe: Yes but installing it must require a bit of work? |
| 12:13.15 | rhowe | morsing: Yeah |
| 12:13.20 | rhowe | mozrat: Yeah, rather |
| 12:13.23 | rhowe | morsing: No idea |
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| 12:35.40 | Leeds | now we are *getting* somewhere! http://www.iseriespython.com/ :-) |
| 12:35.47 | Cope | :) |
| 12:37.02 | Leeds | it's 2.3.3 but I can really really live with that :-) |
| 12:46.55 | Cope | that would be really useful, if only your job was to write programs in python |
| 12:49.45 | Leeds | I am still in a position, I think, where if I can show my way works, I can go ahead and do it |
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| 13:12.43 | JAV | good afternoon |
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| 13:15.28 | mozrat | Hello JAV |
| 13:18.10 | mozrat | has anyone filed a bug against evolution recently? |
| 13:18.24 | mozrat | It's not on the Bugzilla as a product to file against |
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| 13:47.30 | mozrat | The fire alarm went off - phew the excitement |
| 13:53.16 | rhowe | mozrat: Sure it's not loke gnumeric, where you have to tick the box to say "include non-GNOME applications" underneath the list? |
| 13:53.21 | rhowe | s/loke/like/ |
| 14:07.38 | mozrat | rhowe: No, it was a ID 10 T error |
| 14:07.49 | mozrat | using the ximian bugzilla rather than gnome |
| 14:09.19 | rhowe | Ah :) |
| 14:33.20 | morsing | Work sucks :-( |
| 14:33.32 | morsing | Anyone got an interesting AIX job for me? |
| 14:34.45 | highbury | ditto |
| 14:34.58 | highbury | s/AIX/*x |
| 14:35.23 | highbury | anybody know anything about spamassassin? |
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| 14:38.34 | *** topic/#gllug is Greater London LUG. Next meeting: Saturday 11th June 2005; Web site: http://www.gllug.org.uk; Wiki: http://wiki.gllug.org.uk; Channel stats at http://www.jonmasters.org/irc/gllug; Pictures at http://gllug.org.uk/ircphoto.html [need new piccy's] |
| 14:42.01 | pdr | xensource are hiring apparently |
| 14:43.44 | highbury | they said so at the talk |
| 14:44.24 | pdr | i wonder if relocation would be necessary |
| 14:45.27 | morsing | Hey - Why don't we all set up a Unix company to take over the world? |
| 14:45.38 | morsing | I'm not a developer |
| 14:52.30 | morsing | Is James never here? |
| 14:53.46 | morsing | OA sucks |
| 14:54.07 | morsing | Sorry I should really leave instead of inflicting this on you. |
| 14:54.23 | morsing | See you tomorow for a hopefully better day |
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| 15:17.57 | mozrat | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:18.43 | zachary | Hey, mozrat. How was the meeting on saturday? |
| 15:19.00 | mozrat | Apparently fun but I didn't go |
| 15:41.12 | pdr | yeah, twas really good |
| 15:44.46 | highbury | despite expectations it went really well |
| 15:46.05 | zachary | That's good!( steams in jealousy ) |
| 15:47.02 | zachary | highbury, how's your ankle-biter or terror-to-the-knees? |
| 16:35.57 | rhowe | Seeing as it's hometime |
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| 16:43.48 | George | flooooooooble |
| 16:44.13 | zachary | fubar? |
| 16:45.39 | George | no |
| 16:45.41 | George | flooble. |
| 16:45.41 | George | :) |
| 16:46.32 | zachary | George, have you upgraded your mac to tiger? |
| 17:10.28 | highbury | hey zach! He's being a right royal pain in the butt at the moment |
| 17:18.23 | zachary | lol, it's just that age. I'm knee deep in Corbin's attitude. Show No Fear!!!!! |
| 17:19.30 | zachary | Next on "Fear Factor": Collect ten flags while keeping my son out of trouble. |
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| 21:18.40 | rhowe | heh, Jacko not guilty |
| 21:19.45 | Cope | and in our next shock news |
| 21:20.16 | Cope | surely no-one actually expected anyone to find him guilty, even if he was. |
| 21:27.23 | George | rhowe: yeah, brilliant |
| 21:27.37 | George | Cope: well, the guy had amazing defence |
| 21:27.51 | George | Cope: and the prosecutors were clearly only after money anyway |
| 22:01.43 | Cope | George: exactly |
| 22:02.54 | Cope | That's exactly what I mean - the prosecutors weren't making the point that Jackson was a danger, or even much of a child-abuser - they just wanted money; His defence was far far better than the prosecution - it was always going to be a completely one-sided contest. |
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| 22:44.30 | Cope | goodnight all |
| 23:26.45 | mozrat | Folks - can you upload a directory tree using curl? |
| 23:26.55 | mozrat | it can upload files, and create new directories |
| 23:27.14 | mozrat | can I 'mirror' an existing set of files and folders? |
| 23:27.41 | rhowe | NFI |
| 23:27.43 | rhowe | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~kovar/hall.html |
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