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00:00.13Copehighbury, /etc/ethers was configured ages ago - everything works as it should; the only problem is that the netbsd nfs_boot process looks for an ip via bootp/dhcp before it mounts /etc/ and discovers that it needs a static ip
00:00.55Copehighbury, atm the dhcp server is off, so it all works; when the dhcp server is on, it doesn't, as I need to make some changes to the dhcp config.
00:01.32Copeeither by re-subnetting, such that diskless clients have their own subnet; or by looking into ignoring mac addresses, or something
00:04.21Copealso if I used dhcp for the diskless clients, I could do away with bootparamd
00:10.21Coperight... sleeping time;
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02:11.26*** topic/#gllug is Greater London LUG. Next meeting: Saturday 11th June 2005; Web site: http://www.gllug.org.uk; Wiki: http://wiki.gllug.org.uk; Channel stats at http://www.jonmasters.org/irc/gllug; Pictures at http://gllug.org.uk/ircphoto.html [need new piccy's]
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06:25.50rhowewoo, rain
06:26.02rhoweHello, Wimbledon
06:32.43Leedsheh
06:32.50Leedspissing it down here this morning too
06:36.11rhoweI must have a 6th sense
06:36.28rhoweI got up at 7:15 and thought "I have to get the washing in"
06:36.40rhowe10 minutes later, the skies opened
06:37.51Leedsit was drizzling as we arrived this morning, then 2 minutes later was an absolute storm...
06:40.30rhowehttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/06/18/mastercard_breach/
06:41.26rhowewoo, big thunder
06:41.35rhoweAnd now a car alarm just went off
06:41.56Leedsoopsie
06:42.21rhowehahaha just saw an older article on the register
06:42.46rhowe"Inflight mobile calls by 2006"
06:42.55rhoweWith the subheading "I'M IN FIRST CLASS"
07:00.16LeedsI really hope they don't allow people to use cell-phones on planes...
07:15.24rhoweThey will, because they can make money from it
07:15.29rhoweOr at least, they think they can
07:15.56rhoweI hope they don't allow you to use them from your seat, and that they require the phones to be put on vibrate
07:16.24rhoweWith on the spot fines for anyone whose phone goes off when the lights are dimmed for people to sleep
07:16.53mozratGood morning
07:17.00rhoweMorninh
07:17.04rhowes/h$/g/
07:17.41mozratrhowe - ref big thunder, my daughter just phoned refusing to leave the house to go to school cos of said thunder
07:17.58rhowemozrat: heh
07:18.11rhowemozrat: Tell her the thunder's harmless. It's the lightening she should be scared of :)
07:18.28rhowelightning, rather
07:18.32mozrat:)
07:23.07murbleshould be afraid of the rain, after all humans are water soluble.
07:55.53Leedsmurble: and we're not conductive?
08:01.45murbleLeeds: no but special conductive clothing could be worn, as could water resitant clothing.
08:29.17edwardthungder
08:51.17wethrinMorning
08:51.29mozratmorning wethrin
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09:20.25rhoweThis is crazy
09:20.30rhoweI just can't stay awake
09:20.35rhoweIt's 28.9°C in here
09:29.02Leedsin the office?
09:38.03wethringo home!
09:40.19laomao02100
09:40.20laomao3
09:40.33Leedslaomao: I couldn't agree more
09:40.34laomao.3..33..333333333333333333333333.
09:42.02laomaosorry, it is WIlliam
09:42.06Leedswilliam, is that you?
09:42.07Leeds:-)
09:42.24laomaoHe often types keyboard when I am not around
09:42.34Leedslaomao: good :-)
09:43.41laomaoI gonna take him out for a walk now since the weather in London today is much cooler
10:06.44mozratI wonder what Williams favourite number is
10:08.25wethrin3
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10:31.35mozratwoo AngelChild
10:36.29Leedshmm... so Heinz have apparently bought HP :-)
10:40.31mozratthe sauce?
10:40.56Leedsas opposed to the democratic institution?  yes...
10:49.17Leedswell... seems Sun is actually serious about doing Xen... we've just had a mailout with some new (not publically-listed yet) job postings to work on it
10:50.31eye69Leeds: I guess you're not going back to Sun? :)
10:50.41Leedsnot planning on it yet
10:51.34rhoweLeeds: So.. this game server..
10:51.58Leedsrhowe: yeah?
10:52.11AngelChildyay morsing
10:52.12rhoweLeeds: What games should it serve?
10:52.12AngelChildmozrat
10:52.13AngelChildtoo
10:52.19AngelChildstupid nick completion :|
10:52.46Leedsrhowe: to the net, I think
10:53.50Leedsrhowe: unless you're talking doubles, of course
10:54.38mozratAngelChild: you're not the first to do that :(
10:54.52wethrinNormally it's the other way around, though
10:58.56Leedsrhowe: tennis :-)
10:59.17Leedsrhowe: bad double-pun
11:06.20formihi leeds
11:06.30Leedsafternoon formi... how's things?
11:06.50formitoday I am going to delight you all with a highly technical question
11:07.06formiLeeds: not bad, pay rise + bonus coming in 2 days
11:07.13Leedswoo! :-)
11:08.43formihere goes the question, in a motherboard serial pin formation, I guess pin 1 is the one labelled red on the actual ribbon cable, does it sound right?
11:08.54wethrinYes
11:09.34formiwell something ain't working here
11:10.37formiI have just almost managed to get my goatie trimmed by a case fan
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11:11.44rhoweAfternoon, Pete
11:11.54pdrhey russell
11:14.11mozratformi: that would be *bad*
11:17.33formipdr
11:17.55formiyou haven't invited me to any barbie/party this year!
11:18.32Leedsyou have Barbi parties?
11:19.06formiLeeds: don't be so jealous!
11:19.54Leeds:-)
11:20.54wethrinOoh, anyone want free tickets to see Carol Vorderman in a Sudoku challenge?
11:22.06Leedswethrin: if it's in Hong Kong, certainly :-)
11:22.23wethrinHeh. Nah
11:54.51rhowehm, interesting
11:55.43rhowe"All staff may claim from the company, reimbursement of one subscription to a relevant professional body, per year"
11:55.51rhoweLooks like I may well become a UKUUG member then :)
11:57.41wethrinI'm not sure if UKUUG counts as a 'professional body', though
11:58.05LeedsI got mine covered by work
11:58.58Leedsback when I was employed, in the UK, a Unix professional, etc.
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12:06.16rhoweI think they'd be OK with it
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12:16.37Leedsso one of the guys here gave me 21meg or so of excel files describing their database layout... targz of it comes to less than 4 meg
12:17.23Leedsoh, and a bz2 of it is less than half the size again
12:17.32Leeds1.6 meg
12:49.14rhowepdr: heh, keke's online. I'm finding out more about her weekend than I ever wanted to know
12:53.43LeedsI don't know who pointed me at ballofdirt.com, but if it was someone here, thanks :-)
13:09.31Leedswell, ladies and gentlehobbits... I'm off
13:09.55LeedsI shall see you all here tomorrow...
13:10.15CodingChildwhat makes you think we spend all our time online on IRC?... oh
13:10.44Leedsbecause I do?
13:11.24CodingChildxD
13:11.30CodingChildit's my social life ¬.¬
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13:49.12pdrwhat's a good blogging thingo?
13:49.24pdrcurrently looking at pyblosxom
13:50.30mozratpdr, I asked myself that exact same question recently
13:50.37mozratI was using blosxom since Christmas
13:50.45mozratand then looked at pyblosxom last week
13:51.07mozratbut I'd recommend Serenpidity for both licence goodness and out of the box functionality
13:51.39mozrat*blosxom is great if you want to fiddle
13:51.46pdrpyblosxom seems pretty good out of the box
14:00.11mozratpdr, Yeah, nothing wrong with it but you need to enable plugins to get functionality
14:00.40mozratit's the classic "lean, nothing enabled by default, build you own" versus "bloated, everything enabled" argument
14:00.55mozratblosxom is definitely the best example of the former
14:01.16mozratI used it for ages happily
14:01.31pdrsounds exactly what i want
14:01.35pdrdoes it do pictures?
14:02.07mozratWith Blosxom you need to create the posts in a text file and get them on the server using FTP, SFTP or whichever method
14:02.26mozratso if you upload your pictures and include them with <img> tags then yes, sure
14:02.29pdrsounds ideal
14:02.47mozrathttp://www.beerandspeech.org for an example of a blosxom site that "someone" hasn't updated in ages
14:02.55mozrat*shuffles feet*
14:02.58pdri want to create everything offline, and send it back via gprs!
14:03.36mozratthat'd do it
14:04.00mozratbasically the top line of the text file is the post header, everything else is content
14:04.19mozratthe time stamps are taken from the file system
14:05.14mozratcategories are created with the mkdir command :)
14:05.26pdrmozrat: that beerandspeech looks fine to me
14:05.33mozratpdr, thanks
14:05.51mozratthats the default template - I didn't do a lot to it
14:06.16pdrcool
14:10.21pdri have pyblosxom up and running on my desktop at work - seems quite easy
14:10.32pdrnow to get it on my server at home...
14:13.38wethrinGAH. I always manage to lose the cheap train tickets!
14:13.58pdrgotta book in advance!
14:14.34wethrinYes. I never get around to it sufficiently
14:15.39wethrinShould I get into Kings X at 1701 or 1730?
14:17.35pdreither way, i can't meet for beer as i have to leaev at the very latest 5:30
14:17.54wethrinPoo :(
14:42.55Georgethree more exams over with
14:42.56Georgeyay
14:43.11mozratwell done George
14:44.17Georgemozrat: only 2 left
14:44.24Georgemozrat: btw, I got promoted to sergeant :P
14:44.52Georgefor no real reason at all
14:45.31mozratNot because you are a fearless leader of men?
14:46.14Georgeduh.
14:46.43Georgeright, I think it's time to sleep.
14:46.45GeorgeSLEEPY TIME
14:51.43wethrinlazy
14:52.15Georgeyes, yes I am.
14:52.17Georgebye.
15:40.38mozratDoesn't I.E. support .png files???
15:42.24mozratoh, it does... just not from my server :(
15:42.27mozratwhy would that be
15:43.53rhoweIt does, but it doesn't do transparency
15:43.58wethrinMIME type foobarage?
15:44.25mozratrhowe the images I'm trying to server are transparent... so IE just wouldn't show them at all?
15:51.00rhowemozrat: It typically uses a solid colour as background
15:51.07pdrit doesn't show the transparent bits as transparent, just black
15:51.08rhoweSee http://www.wreckage.org/contact.jsp for example
15:51.28rhoweHm, actually I think I replaced the PNG with a GIF there
15:51.54mozratrhowe... I'll change the files anyway - they definetely don't show in IE
16:14.13mozratsee you tomorrow guys
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18:11.26*** topic/#gllug is Greater London LUG. Next meeting: Saturday 11th June 2005; Web site: http://www.gllug.org.uk; Wiki: http://wiki.gllug.org.uk; Channel stats at http://www.jonmasters.org/irc/gllug; Pictures at http://gllug.org.uk/ircphoto.html [need new piccy's]
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19:03.45highburyrhowe: I used to claim ukuug membership from my company
19:03.58highburys/company/employer
19:04.26highburywho's Duke Jibunah?
19:05.52murblehighbury: but it is only 40 quid or somthing isn't it?
19:06.50highburyyeah, but I haven't been able to afford it, so if you can find somebody to pay for it? ....
19:07.54murblei've not bothred with membership this year myself, as i only join when i know i can get to atleast one of the conferences
19:23.15rhowehighbury: Yeah - I think I'll try for it tomorrow
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