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06:27.02 | morsing | Leeds! |
06:51.13 | Leeds | morsy-baby! |
06:52.37 | Leeds | ahem... good morning morsing |
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09:07.16 | Marios_ | morning |
10:51.35 | mozrat-ie | Good Morning Marios_ et al |
10:56.31 | George | heya Leeds |
10:56.40 | George | hi mozrat-ie |
10:57.58 | mozrat-ie | Morning George |
10:58.43 | George | heard about birmingham? |
10:58.49 | mozrat-ie | yes |
10:59.16 | mozrat-ie | nothing suspicious in the end though was it? |
11:04.53 | George | er |
11:05.02 | George | they exploded 4 bombs |
11:06.48 | George | "Police carried out four controlled explosions on a bus in Corporation Street, in the city centre." |
11:09.46 | mozrat-ie | yes - but the objects they exploded were innocent items I believe |
12:26.13 | Leeds | evening folks |
12:29.29 | mozrat-ie | <PROTECTED> |
12:35.33 | mozrat-ie | Hmmm - trying to run a perl script that uses Mail::IMAPClient |
12:35.47 | mozrat-ie | and it's passing the logon string to the server... |
12:35.50 | mozrat-ie | '1 Login "mark" {3}' |
12:35.56 | mozrat-ie | when the password is 3 characters |
12:36.16 | mozrat-ie | as in passes the length of the password as the password |
12:36.41 | Leeds | that sounds wrong... |
12:36.47 | mozrat-ie | does rather |
12:37.04 | mozrat-ie | used 2 different scripts that use that library and they both do the same |
12:37.05 | Leeds | in, y'know, my considered professional opinion... |
12:37.18 | Leeds | use the python imaplib instead :-) |
12:37.21 | mozrat-ie | :) |
12:37.32 | mozrat-ie | I need a imap 2 mbox convertor |
12:39.47 | Leeds | doesn't the pine imaptool do that? |
12:39.58 | mozrat-ie | http://www.jplanglois.com/products/imapcp/ |
12:40.09 | mozrat-ie | Leeds, dunno - ace if it does |
12:41.02 | Leeds | that's the sort of thing it's precisely for |
12:41.20 | Leeds | alternatively, a combination of something like fetchmail and procmail would do the job |
12:43.04 | Leeds | hmm... it's possible that teaching my spamtraps that "any mail which is all in Chinese is spam" may no longer be entirely appropriate |
12:43.52 | Leeds | <PROTECTED> |
12:43.53 | Leeds | <PROTECTED> |
12:43.53 | Leeds | <PROTECTED> |
12:44.02 | Leeds | mozrat-ie: that do you? :-) |
12:44.06 | mozrat-ie | hmm sounds perfect |
12:44.11 | mozrat-ie | I have 15 of them to do :) |
12:44.44 | mozrat-ie | International Cat Agility Tournaments |
12:44.57 | mozrat-ie | that probably isn't the correct google result |
12:44.58 | Leeds | ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/imap/imap-utils.tar.Z |
12:45.10 | Leeds | may need c-client installing separately |
12:45.51 | mozrat-ie | International Centre for Accessible Transportation |
12:46.15 | Leeds | I Can't Actually Type |
12:46.31 | mozrat-ie | Isotope-Coded Affinity Tags (ICAT) Methodology |
12:46.57 | mozrat-ie | Institute for Communication Arts and Technology |
12:47.22 | mozrat-ie | Innovative Clean Air Technologies Program (ICAT) |
12:47.35 | Leeds | anyway... :-) |
12:47.49 | mozrat-ie | International Coalition against Terrorism |
12:47.50 | mozrat-ie | :) |
12:47.52 | mozrat-ie | loads! |
12:48.17 | Leeds | so, we're saying it's a common acronym? |
12:48.55 | mozrat-ie | I think so |
12:50.00 | Leeds | so, on Friday I installed Slackware on my work laptop... this weekend has been the first time in almost 2 months I've been using a powerful and sufficient-memoried X system :-) |
12:51.14 | mozrat-ie | :) |
12:51.19 | mozrat-ie | you've been reborn? |
12:51.36 | Leeds | indeed |
12:52.13 | Leeds | it's little things like trying to work out what to fill in as the smtp server for thunderbird and realising that "install exim locally and use 127.0.0.1" made more sense than anything else :-) |
12:52.55 | mozrat-ie | yeah, but I have problems with that nowdays :( |
12:53.00 | mozrat-ie | PTR checking and the like |
12:53.06 | George | wibble wobble and a flooble to top it off |
12:53.12 | mozrat-ie | and the same to you George |
12:53.17 | George | :) |
12:53.34 | George | now then, should I continue getting annoyed with qmail, or do I watch some TV? |
12:53.58 | Leeds | not much choice unless I can find/put a login-able smtp server elsewhere, since I can't use the one frm my ISP |
12:54.02 | Leeds | George: kill gmail, use exim |
12:54.07 | Leeds | *then* watch TV |
12:54.13 | George | Leeds: qmail, not gmail |
12:54.31 | George | Leeds: and I'm supposed to be migrating this server from qmail to postfix and keeping everything else the same (users, passwords, virtual domains...) |
12:54.37 | Leeds | oops - I meant qmail |
12:55.28 | George | heh |
12:55.29 | George | it sucks |
12:55.30 | George | SOOO MUCH |
12:55.48 | George | I mean, wtf is up with qmail's config system |
12:55.54 | Leeds | indeed |
12:55.55 | George | it's scattered across the filesystem |
12:55.57 | Leeds | it's evil |
12:56.11 | George | in a million dot files |
12:56.12 | George | :( |
12:57.04 | George | I think I'll watch some stuff on TV |
12:57.04 | Leeds | qmail is just generally very very evil |
12:57.13 | Leeds | good plan - what's on? |
12:57.13 | George | Leeds: I know :( |
12:57.16 | George | Leeds: no idea. |
12:57.24 | Leeds | :-) |
12:57.32 | George | but whatever it is |
12:57.43 | George | it's likely to be better than migrating a server from qmail to postfix |
12:57.46 | Leeds | better than fighting with qmail |
12:57.47 | Leeds | :-) |
12:58.05 | George | or rather, trying to work out how the existing qmail setup works |
12:58.12 | Leeds | oops, my firefox has gone nuts |
12:58.17 | Leeds | oh no, it's back |
12:58.19 | George | heh |
12:58.20 | George | konqueror :) |
12:59.43 | Leeds | bah |
13:01.53 | George | heh |
13:01.58 | George | always thinking about food. |
13:02.03 | mozrat-ie | Leeds, that python one seems the winner |
13:04.17 | Leeds | mozrat-ie: huh? |
13:05.11 | Leeds | mozrat-ie: pine or python? |
13:11.43 | mozrat-ie | Leeds: looking at the python one at the moment I found |
13:11.48 | mozrat-ie | but maybe it doesn't work so well |
13:11.58 | mozrat-ie | I'll look at the pine one next |
13:12.08 | mozrat-ie | the IMAP server is a FirstClass server !? |
13:12.17 | Leeds | ugh |
13:12.20 | mozrat-ie | I'm not sure how closely it follows the IMAP standard |
13:12.30 | mozrat-ie | doesn't seem to have the INBOX top level folder |
13:12.49 | Leeds | it has to |
13:12.50 | Leeds | AFAIK |
13:13.08 | Leeds | anyway, you can be sure the pine stuff follows the standard, since it's effectively the reference implementation |
13:13.26 | mozrat-ie | a2 list "" "" |
13:13.26 | mozrat-ie | * LIST ( \HasChildren) "/" "~" |
13:13.26 | mozrat-ie | a2 OK LIST completed |
13:13.44 | Leeds | a3 EXAMINE INBOX |
13:14.12 | mozrat-ie | a3 EXAMINE INBOX |
13:14.12 | mozrat-ie | * 55 EXISTS |
13:14.12 | mozrat-ie | * 0 RECENT |
13:14.12 | mozrat-ie | * OK [UNSEEN 1] Message 1 is first unseen |
13:14.12 | mozrat-ie | * FLAGS (\Deleted \Seen \Flagged \Draft \Recent) |
13:14.15 | mozrat-ie | * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS ()] No permanent flags permitted |
13:14.17 | mozrat-ie | * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1] UIDs valid |
13:14.20 | mozrat-ie | a3 OK [READ-ONLY] EXAMINE completed |
13:14.28 | Leeds | there you go, it does have an INBOX :-) |
13:14.32 | mozrat-ie | :) |
13:14.35 | mozrat-ie | fair enough |
13:15.00 | Leeds | my IMAP is a little rusty - it's a while since I tried to talk it manually, and it's not the simplest of protocols to start wiht |
13:15.16 | mozrat-ie | <paste> |
13:15.18 | mozrat-ie | sm@ubuntu:~/tmp/mail/mike $ ~/bin/mbcp.py imap://mark:eig@172.22.12.15/ mbox:///mike -v |
13:15.21 | mozrat-ie | Debug enabled |
13:15.24 | mozrat-ie | Mailbox Copy version Release 0.97 |
13:15.27 | mozrat-ie | Copying from imap :// mark : eig @ 172.22.12.15 : / |
13:15.29 | mozrat-ie | To mbox :// : @ : / mike |
13:15.32 | mozrat-ie | Starting copy... |
13:15.34 | mozrat-ie | Building folder list... |
13:15.37 | mozrat-ie | folder on destination: "mike/~/" |
13:15.39 | mozrat-ie | ~/ (0) |
13:15.42 | mozrat-ie | folder on destination: "INBOX" |
13:15.45 | mozrat-ie | INBOX (55).message fetched: 1, , 25-Jan-2005 10:33:47 +0100 |
13:15.47 | mozrat-ie | Traceback (most recent call last): |
13:15.50 | mozrat-ie | <PROTECTED> |
13:15.52 | mozrat-ie | <PROTECTED> |
13:15.55 | mozrat-ie | <PROTECTED> |
13:15.57 | mozrat-ie | <PROTECTED> |
13:16.00 | mozrat-ie | <PROTECTED> |
13:16.03 | mozrat-ie | <PROTECTED> |
13:16.05 | mozrat-ie | <PROTECTED> |
13:16.07 | mozrat-ie | bah, I dunno |
13:16.10 | mozrat-ie | <PROTECTED> |
13:16.10 | Leeds | watch for floodkick |
13:16.12 | mozrat-ie | unknown folder INBOX |
13:16.13 | mozrat-ie | looking at the pine one |
13:16.16 | mozrat-ie | </paste> |
13:16.17 | mozrat-ie | Leeds: yeah :) |
13:16.39 | Leeds | 9:16pm - considering pizza :-) |
13:17.10 | Leeds | yeah, bugger it - there's a takeaway round the corner I need to test out... |
13:35.15 | mozrat-ie | that was quick |
13:35.49 | Leeds | very local - round the other side of the same building, effectively |
13:36.03 | JAV | afternoon |
13:36.55 | mozrat-ie | LOL |
13:37.05 | mozrat-ie | trying to google why this python script won't work |
13:37.09 | mozrat-ie | found this "The downsides: |
13:37.10 | mozrat-ie | <PROTECTED> |
13:37.16 | mozrat-ie | etc etc |
13:39.44 | Leeds | heh |
13:40.03 | Leeds | when I suggested python, I meant building your own using the existing python libraries |
13:40.16 | mozrat-ie | Leeds: no time really... I'm outta here tomorrow |
13:40.35 | mozrat-ie | and there is a golf driving range across town that I'd like to visit today :) |
13:40.52 | Leeds | so do the imap-utils thing |
13:41.56 | mozrat-ie | yeah |
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15:19.34 | Leeds | bud? |
15:19.43 | George | flooble |
15:20.18 | Leeds | time for a new kernel... |
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15:56.35 | mozrat-ie | which distro Leeds? |
15:57.15 | Leeds | slackware |
15:57.39 | Leeds | it's not a suprise - I know I didn't select it for installation from the CDs because I wanted to install 2.4.1 |
15:57.59 | Leeds | I'm just confused as to how I managed to use the machine for 24 hours without noticing I'd forgotten to install it :-) |
15:58.20 | mozrat-ie | :) |
15:58.42 | Leeds | I do have the machine booting nicely, bringing up the wifi and doing dhcp on it... |
15:59.27 | Leeds | Blissex: bah! |
16:06.45 | Leeds | there we go - python 2.4.1 installed :-) |
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16:22.34 | Leeds | http://www.webcambiglook.com/panamacitybeachfl.html and http://www.visitpensacola.com/WebCams/pweb.asp - live webcams from the area about to be hit by a hurricane in the US |
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21:05.22 | edward | Sneakers on ITV3 |
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22:13.51 | kismet-nohd | has anyone managed to use a pcmcia Prism2 card with kismet *monitor mode* on knoppix 3.9 or ubuntu running off CD on a laptop with NO hard drive? |