06:54.07 | mozrat | Goooooooood morning |
07:11.27 | eye69 | Morning |
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07:52.39 | mozrat | Interesting idea from UFie Link of the day... Help nuke fake online banks on this site http://www.aa419.org/vampire/ladvampire.html |
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08:15.20 | morsing | 'morning all |
08:20.08 | mozrat | hello morsing |
08:20.18 | eye69 | Hi morsing. |
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09:04.11 | mozrat | Hmmm, OK. video.google.com seems to only support Win32 clients |
09:04.18 | mozrat | http://video.google.com/video_download.html |
09:04.39 | mozrat | however... http://code.google.com/patches.html seems to suggest that it actually uses VLC |
09:08.02 | mozrat | and they have a Linux uploader for the site https://upload.video.google.com/video_instructions.html#downloadinglinux |
09:08.08 | mozrat | viewing videos should be possible |
09:14.09 | Leeds | mozrat: you do know what their viewer is, right? |
09:14.16 | Leeds | BTW, http://moon.google.com |
09:15.45 | mozrat | Leeds, no, go on? |
09:15.55 | mozrat | Looks like VLC from the code page |
09:16.21 | Leeds | exactly - it's a lightly-customised vlc |
09:17.39 | eye69 | Leeds: Hahaha |
09:17.50 | eye69 | Leeds: I guess you've tried zooming in? |
09:18.00 | Leeds | I assume it's been attempted, but you could try to build the viewer for Linux |
09:18.06 | Leeds | eye69: of course :-) |
09:18.13 | eye69 | Leeds: Funny. :) |
09:18.36 | Leeds | eye69: and of course it must be true if google says it, right? |
09:18.43 | eye69 | Leeds: Yes. |
09:21.17 | mozrat | Mmmmm, cheese |
09:21.51 | Leeds | mozrat: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/codesite-discuss/browse_thread/thread/e5a3f9fec6058cb0/ff01dbc84f80a00b?q=video+linux&rnum=1#ff01dbc84f80a00b |
09:34.13 | rhowe | http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5789263206 |
09:37.22 | Leeds | rhowe: feeling rich? |
09:37.33 | rhowe | Nah |
09:37.40 | rhowe | Friend just forwarded the link :) |
10:00.36 | morsing | mozrat: cheese? |
10:01.24 | Leeds | morsing: cheese |
10:06.40 | morsing | Hi Leeds |
10:06.48 | morsing | When are we going for a drink? |
10:07.03 | Leeds | good question |
10:07.30 | Leeds | pity it's a perl thing... |
10:09.16 | Leeds | morsing: unless you have a better suggestion? |
10:09.41 | morsing | Leeds: Better suggestion than "good question"? |
10:10.53 | Leeds | better suggestion than hijacking the perl thing |
10:11.25 | morsing | Killin? |
10:12.50 | Leeds | parse error |
10:15.51 | Leeds | morsing: Killin? |
10:18.48 | morsing | Leeds: Are you going? |
10:19.17 | wethrin | Leeds: The London.pm social? |
10:20.23 | rhowe | When is it? |
10:21.21 | Leeds | morsing: who or what is Killin? |
10:21.29 | Leeds | rhowe: tomorrow |
10:22.03 | morsing | Leeds: LBW in Scotland |
10:22.10 | Leeds | wethrin: I wouldn't normally plan on it, but if it's an already-arranged social thing while I'm here, I might deign to attend |
10:22.26 | Leeds | ah... no, I have no intention whatsoever of going to Scotland in the next 8 days |
10:23.39 | wethrin | Leeds: LBW is more than 8 days away |
10:23.56 | wethrin | London.pm is generally quite fun - almost no talk of Perl |
10:24.16 | Leeds | well, I'm off back to HK on the 28th |
10:25.12 | rhowe | London.pm is generally very insular and geeky |
10:25.26 | morsing | Leeds: So you're going? |
10:25.42 | Leeds | morsing: to London.pm? possibly |
10:27.54 | morsing | KILLIN! |
10:28.23 | morsing | ibot wake Leeds |
10:28.23 | ibot | Leeds: GOOD MORNING!!! |
10:29.48 | Leeds | morsing: when is Killin? |
10:31.39 | morsing | 6-14th Au. |
10:31.41 | morsing | Aug |
10:32.11 | Leeds | so given that I'm going back to HK on the 28th - as I said above - are you asking me if I'm coming back to the UK a week later to go to LBW? |
10:32.26 | wethrin | rhowe: Yes, but it tends to involve EvilDave |
10:32.35 | morsing | Leeds: No - you said you were coming back to the UK on the 28th |
10:33.04 | Leeds | morsing: where did I say that? |
10:33.24 | Leeds | not at 11:24 (by my clock) where I said HK not UK |
10:37.02 | rhowe | Leeds: If you're going to pm, I may well turn up |
10:38.05 | Leeds | rhowe: well, I intend to do something social, and given that I'm too crap to have put out a call for participants - I may as well hijack an existing event |
10:38.35 | rhowe | OK |
10:38.40 | rhowe | Lemme whip up a gllug-social email |
10:42.18 | rhowe | Leeds: $boss just noticed what happens if you zoom all the way in on http://moon.google.com/ |
10:45.20 | Leeds | rhowe: yes> |
10:45.21 | Leeds | ? |
10:46.11 | rhowe | hm, I guess I'm just slow :P |
10:46.13 | Leeds | hmm... 020 3 numbers coming soon, apparently |
10:46.31 | George | 020 3? |
10:46.54 | Leeds | just for all those people who think the area code is 0208 or 0207 |
10:47.54 | Leeds | rhowe: thanks |
10:49.05 | murble | Leeds: O2 seemed to think that. |
10:49.14 | murble | atleast according to their advertising. |
10:49.24 | murble | as do house prices. |
10:52.04 | murble | Does it have any pearls in it iyet? |
10:52.17 | Leeds | not that I've noticed |
10:58.58 | Leeds | hmm... I suspect that the mobile bill I got yesterday which includes rental up to mid-August should take me to 12 months and therefore out-of-contract |
11:08.28 | Leeds | hmm... all credit to O2... |
11:09.04 | Leeds | called up, said I was going abroad and didn't want to be paying for a contract, but still wanted the number to work, so could they move me onto a PAYG or something... |
11:10.31 | Leeds | instead, they've given me 75 quid credit for starting a new contract and not taking a new phone, and moved me onto a 6 pound/month tarrif - so I stay as a contact customer, but pay no actual rental |
11:10.42 | wethrin | not bad |
11:11.54 | Leeds | hmm... their quoted price for that tarrif on their website is 16 per month... |
11:18.14 | rhowe | I'm considering getting a free phone with no line rental and free minutes |
11:18.15 | rhowe | With 3 |
11:18.32 | rhowe | Carphonewarehouse will give rebates all year for the line rental :P |
11:19.03 | rhowe | But I think I need a bit of cash to begin with, and they'll pay me back later |
11:19.11 | rhowe | Which sucks, as I don't have any :P |
11:19.15 | Leeds | I've heard good and bad things about 3 in technical terms, and bad things about them in customer service terms - but you can't beat free |
11:22.54 | Leeds | ah, bloody non-members-must-be-manually-approved mailing lists! :-) |
11:23.42 | Leeds | now, to call Sky and tell them where to stick their service... |
11:26.01 | Leeds | and then the same to TiVo :-( |
11:28.15 | Leeds | "if you find IVR very very very annoying, please press 1 now" |
11:32.13 | eye69 | Leeds: So HK is permanent? |
11:33.45 | Leeds | semi |
11:34.17 | Leeds | enough for me to cancel non-essential stuff like sky and tivo - but I'm going to leave things like BT, water/gas/electricity in place |
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11:35.27 | Leeds | afternoon axelS |
11:35.31 | axelS | hiho |
11:37.32 | axelS | can somebody try ping axels.homeip.net please? MTIA |
11:37.59 | Leeds | at least no-one else is likely to try to persuade me to stick with them - "moving to HK" is a good reason for cancelling :-) |
11:38.19 | Leeds | axelS: unknown host |
11:38.21 | axelS | hmm |
11:38.38 | axelS | dyndns has the right ip though. what the heck? |
11:38.57 | axelS | thanks for confirming leeds |
11:39.28 | Leeds | pleasure |
11:39.50 | axelS | any idea why it shouldn't work? ano requests is also allowed... argh |
11:42.45 | rhowe | bleh, Mozilla have just released 1.0,6 of both firefox and thunderbird |
11:42.53 | rhowe | stability problems with 1.0.5 apparently |
11:43.13 | Leeds | rhowe: yeah... I didn't bother with 1.0.5 because they announced 1.0.6 was coming almost immediately |
11:43.25 | Leeds | axelS: no idea on dyndns stuff, sorry |
11:44.10 | axelS | shame :-( |
11:45.21 | Leeds | apparently tivo UK are too busy to answer the phone right now and have put me on a queue - unless there's only one person left there, I'm quite suprised |
11:49.51 | Leeds | and... they only do on-the-day cancellations, so assuming I don't want it to go dead until I leave, I need to call up again next week... |
11:50.29 | rhowe | What needs cancelling? |
11:50.59 | Leeds | rhowe: tivo |
11:51.10 | rhowe | It's a subscription thing? |
11:51.13 | Leeds | yeah |
11:51.24 | rhowe | What do you subscribe to? The schedules? |
11:51.38 | Leeds | yup... and software upgrades, but there haven't been any of them for a long long time |
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11:52.18 | Leeds | to be fair, when the schedules are right, they're pretty good - lots of metadata and so on... |
11:53.34 | George | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4697461.stm |
11:55.53 | Leeds | George: ha ha ha ha ha ha ha |
11:56.11 | Leeds | fucking stupid politicians fucking up schools |
11:56.11 | George | Leeds: same reaction as me |
11:56.15 | George | "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA" |
11:56.26 | George | Leeds: yeah |
11:56.30 | George | Leeds: I wish they'd stop doing that |
11:56.32 | stephen | rofl |
12:02.40 | highbury | leeds: most utility companies and councils, will give you a rebate, if nobody is physically living in your flat |
12:03.06 | Leeds | highbury: I'm about to start a round of calling people like that to discuss it with them |
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12:10.37 | Leeds | did I leave? |
12:10.58 | stephen | indeed you did |
12:12.25 | Leeds | strange... I din't mean to :-) |
12:12.46 | axelS | blame the matrix ;-) |
12:16.34 | Leeds | they changed something |
12:26.29 | Leeds | all IVR systems should, by law, have a "shut up you stupid machine and let me speak to someone in a call center!" option |
12:30.57 | Leeds | hmm... gas and electricity people said "no worries, call us with your meter readings when you leave and we'll keep the account and services running, but won't bill you - just let us know when you're back" |
12:31.26 | Leeds | water people said "you don't have a meter, so if you want the taps to keep working at all you need to keep paying the full regular price" |
12:31.28 | murble | Leeds: if you want fun, try getting a copy of your medical records. |
12:32.25 | Leeds | how about getting the farble-warble civil service to acknowledge a change-of-address card? |
12:38.07 | murble | ahah, i wonder how many addresses the revenue have for me. |
12:40.03 | Leeds | so... time to go back through a couple of months of (online) bank statements and see which bills can be attacked |
12:54.18 | axelS | anybody else using deb sarge with 2.6? |
12:56.28 | murble | 2.6 of what? |
12:56.42 | eye69 | axelS: Yes. |
12:56.44 | axelS | kernel 1.6 |
12:56.47 | axelS | 2.6 even |
12:56.54 | axelS | trying to install it on my mini itx |
12:57.04 | axelS | it boots and then the screen just blanks |
12:57.32 | eye69 | Yuck. |
12:57.44 | axelS | great now i've got commas all over the screen |
12:57.54 | axelS | maybe a dodgy cd? |
12:59.28 | murble | axelS: did you build it yourself? |
12:59.33 | murble | the kernel?@ |
12:59.47 | murble | or did you choose a debian -686 kernel by accident? |
12:59.48 | axelS | downloaded debian-31r0a-i386-netinst.iso |
12:59.54 | axelS | toasted it and now trying to install |
13:08.22 | axelS | hmm 2.2 works oh well - looks like a slightly longer process then |
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13:16.41 | axelS | hi highbury |
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13:34.22 | highbury | hmmmm... Frozen Bubble and Synergy don't coexist happily :-/ |
13:35.05 | highbury | I lost my mouse, had to HUP frozen bubble, it didn't reset the screen, so I had to restart X |
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13:59.31 | George | heya Leeds |
14:01.46 | Leeds | fucking IVR! |
14:02.08 | Leeds | hey George |
14:03.21 | Leeds | ARGH!!!!! |
14:03.46 | Leeds | fucking royal fucking mail make it fucking impossible to fucking speak to anyone on the fucking phone! |
14:04.27 | eye69 | Fucked up. |
14:05.58 | Leeds | let's see if the old trick still works... just refuse to press anything and hope it gives up and drops down to a human |
14:08.45 | Leeds | it works :-) |
14:09.43 | eye69 | :) |
14:10.54 | Leeds | this is regarding international mail redirection... about 67 quid and they'll airmail anything on to you anywhere in the world for a year |
14:12.20 | Leeds | oh, and you can do online renewal - they don't expect you to come into a post office in the UK in order to renew :-) |
14:12.29 | George | http://www.gwright.org.uk/images/view.php?display=pictures/Desktop/pict0801.jpg&width=800&height=600 |
14:12.32 | George | :D |
14:15.30 | Leeds | from today's PMQ: |
14:15.42 | eye69 | Leeds: That sounds quite unlike what you'd expect from RM. :) |
14:15.57 | Leeds | Labour's Anne Begg asked if Mr Blair planned to read the new Harry Potter book |
14:15.57 | Leeds | Mr Blair said his "Harry Potter brief is somewhat thin" but he was told by someone that in the new book the minister of magic appears to confront the prime minister. "I am still waiting for the minister," he said |
14:16.11 | Leeds | eye69: indeed... I guess I'll report back on how well it works... |
14:17.04 | George | oooh |
14:17.05 | George | buy me a present |
14:17.06 | George | :D |
14:59.07 | rhowe | hmm |
14:59.30 | rhowe | single or multimode? 62.5micron core vs 50micron core |
14:59.34 | wethrin | YES! |
14:59.51 | rhowe | Doesn't help that for all the parts I have, I can't find the part numbers *anywhere* on HP's site, so I don't know what I'm working with |
15:00.20 | rhowe | I have a little IBM optical transceiver |
15:00.45 | wethrin | And nothing to go with it? |
15:00.57 | rhowe | It has IBM part codes.. 23L3336, 96EXS1065TM, SOC-1063N, 21H9872 and IBM42S10SNNCP20 |
15:01.15 | rhowe | It also has Compaq part number 234456-003 and compaq spares part number 234458-001 |
15:01.37 | rhowe | This thing is smaller than my phone and it has 7 bloody part codes |
15:01.47 | wethrin | heh |
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16:11.45 | zachary | ello |
16:12.10 | wethrin | hi |
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18:46.07 | axelS | hiho |
18:57.16 | George | heh |
20:11.35 | rhowe | haha http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/7291/hasslefreeplat3qq.jpg |
20:22.17 | stephen | ho ho |
20:29.45 | rhowe | http://ian-norris.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/knightrider.gif |
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20:44.26 | JAV | G'd evening |
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22:34.56 | Leeds | woooo! http://www.somethingwrong.co.uk/crazy_frog_baseball/ - flash - beat up the fucking frog :-) |
22:37.25 | wethrin | didn't work for me when I tried it |
22:40.41 | Leeds | works *well* for me |
22:42.00 | Leeds | I just cut his head off! |
22:44.52 | Leeds | I would expect jamster to send their attack lawyers in |
22:45.42 | wethrin | hehe |
22:51.39 | Leeds | strangely, O2 have announced today that they've reduced churn, but had their ARPU fall... I think keeping me on as a contract customer by offering to pay my line rental for a year fits into that profile, no? |
23:31.27 | George | wibble |
23:31.55 | wethrin | you wobble like a girl! |
23:33.11 | George | wtf |
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23:51.41 | Leeds | there we go - apart from the fact that the first DVD didn't write well, that's over 9.5 hours of good quality video on one disk |
23:52.51 | Leeds | and to celebrate - I'm going to Tesco |
23:55.02 | wethrin | hurrah |