| 00:00.40 | Catalyst | being transsexual isn't fun at all, and since it's hard to express without people going either "liar, leave me alone" or "ARGH YOU PERV WTF YOU CAN'T POSSIBLY FEEL THAT WAY FUCK OFF FUCK OFF" I feel somewhat lonely |
| 00:01.11 | Leeds | um... |
| 00:02.02 | Catalyst | yeah |
| 00:02.05 | Catalyst | it's 1am |
| 00:02.08 | Catalyst | and i'm stressed |
| 00:03.35 | Leeds | sleep is generally a good solution to that combination of problems |
| 00:03.46 | Leeds | the 1am/stressed combination, that is |
| 00:04.10 | Catalyst | well, it would be if I thought it would actually help |
| 00:04.15 | Catalyst | which |
| 00:04.17 | Catalyst | it will |
| 00:04.19 | Catalyst | good night |
| 00:04.26 | Leeds | g'night :-) |
| 00:04.50 | Leeds | bonus suggestion - shove a funny DVD on, screen off, as sleep background... go to sleep with a smile... |
| 00:06.06 | Leeds | I prefer something funny - but whatever floats your boat... |
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| 07:42.48 | Leeds | http://www.antipope.org/feorag/blogpix/tube-21-07-05.jpg |
| 07:44.34 | mozrat | Morning Leeds |
| 07:44.58 | Leeds | hi mozrat |
| 07:45.03 | murble | Leeds: that accuratly reflects the current state? |
| 07:46.19 | Leeds | as of late yesterday, I think - I don't know how much more is running this morning... reading the TfL site, suggests that the charing+ branch of the northern line is largely running, in that they don't mention it as closed |
| 07:50.02 | Leeds | yesterday I ended up taking a (rather pleasant, actually) walk from Euston down to TCR through the 'back streets' then back up TCR itself |
| 07:50.54 | Leeds | was quite strange seeing TCR full of people, but empty of traffic, on a sunny summer evening |
| 08:12.20 | eye69 | Morning |
| 08:18.51 | Leeds | http://www.hko.gov.hk/wxinfo/news/2005/pre0721e.htm |
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| 08:41.54 | Leeds | ibot crl |
| 08:41.55 | ibot | rumour has it, crl is home of handhelds.org or HP Labs, Cambridge Research Lab, One Cambridge Center, Cambridge MA 02142, or http://www.crl.hpl.hp.com |
| 08:47.58 | Leeds | crl is the dec^Wcompaq^Whp lab which hosts the Linux-ipaq - and by extension, other handheld Linux - project... apparently it's for the chop under the HP cuts announced yesterday |
| 08:50.24 | Leeds | and Keith Packard was last known to be working there |
| 08:56.34 | gregj | not good |
| 08:56.51 | Leeds | not good at all |
| 08:57.10 | Leeds | no mention of it yesterday on IRC from HP people... |
| 08:57.57 | gregj | they will cut all opensource projects short than |
| 08:58.13 | Leeds | http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/business/technology/12187326.htm has the story - use bugmenot to get a login |
| 09:00.31 | gregj | bugmenot ? |
| 09:00.36 | gregj | as email and pass ? |
| 09:00.46 | Leeds | you don't know bugmenot? |
| 09:01.12 | gregj | n ope |
| 09:01.33 | Leeds | bugmenot is a website with a database of usable logins for registration-required sites - you go there, put in the site you're trying to get into, and it gives you a username/password |
| 09:01.44 | gregj | :] |
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| 09:15.53 | axelS | hiho |
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| 09:18.45 | JD | morning all |
| 09:18.57 | JD | anyone going to the backstage.bbc.co.uk event tomorrow? |
| 09:19.05 | axelS | g'morning JD |
| 09:19.07 | rhowe | http://siksai.co.uk/vids/Flash%20Animations/Hi-Ho%20(Panasonic%20Ad).swf |
| 09:19.12 | rhowe | axelS: hiho indeed :P |
| 09:21.06 | Leeds | JD: not booked in, but I may give it a try |
| 09:23.00 | axelS | can anybody point me to a good tutorial about how to set up a sub domain on my home box? |
| 09:23.42 | wethrin | JD! |
| 09:24.40 | Leeds | axelS: setup *what* as a subdomain? |
| 09:25.17 | Leeds | a subdomain behaves exactly like any other domain name, except that you don't need to register it anywhere except your own DNS server |
| 09:25.20 | gregj | JD: david |
| 09:26.21 | axelS | Leeds: sorry, that's what i mean. how do i set up bind9 correctly for that |
| 09:26.42 | axelS | i've got a dyndns name and am pointing a cname at it at the moment |
| 09:26.43 | JD | gregj: :) |
| 09:27.08 | JD | axelS: erm you can't |
| 09:27.18 | Leeds | axelS: assuming you have a zone file setup for the domain already, and it's going to be on the same IP address... all you need to do is copy an existing A line and chance the host part of the line - and change the serial, obviously |
| 09:27.19 | JD | you don't have a delegation |
| 09:27.35 | Leeds | oh... if it's not your name... you can't do that |
| 09:28.13 | axelS | so bind9 only has localhost and i simply point the cname to the dyndns domain then? |
| 09:28.22 | Leeds | axelS: do you host the DNS for the domain? |
| 09:28.37 | axelS | it's on my main server with the ISP |
| 09:29.12 | axelS | axel.brightercomputing.com -> axels.dnsalias.com -> localhost |
| 09:29.19 | murble | axelS: how horrible. |
| 09:29.26 | axelS | murble: why? |
| 09:29.35 | murble | dnsalias.com |
| 09:29.36 | axelS | i'm on a dynamic ip sadly |
| 09:29.39 | axelS | oh |
| 09:29.58 | murble | axelS: so if you run your own dns you can make do your own dynamic updates without having to use a 3rd party. |
| 09:30.31 | axelS | murble: can you point me to a tutorial somewhere? sounds like a great idea :) |
| 09:31.19 | Leeds | ibot convert 20kg to lb |
| 09:37.21 | murble | axelS: http://linux.yyz.us/nsupdate/ |
| 09:37.43 | murble | but rember they are using symetric keys so you need to protect both. |
| 09:39.38 | axelS | murble: thanks. what do you mean symetric keys...? |
| 09:41.35 | murble | "dnssec-keygen generates two keys, a public key and a private key." is not correct in this case. |
| 09:42.04 | axelS | you mean i don't need to do that? |
| 09:42.15 | axelS | sorry for being stupid |
| 09:43.15 | murble | you need to do that, but you need to protect both keys. |
| 09:43.48 | axelS | ok |
| 09:44.15 | axelS | btw. i assume nsupdate works regardless of having a router/fw in front of my box? |
| 09:44.39 | murble | if you know what you IP address is. |
| 09:45.01 | axelS | you mean my external (wan) address? |
| 09:45.15 | axelS | i assume there's a way to find that out or monitor it? |
| 09:46.00 | mozrat | BBC News reporting possible shots fired in Stockwell |
| 09:46.55 | murble | axelS: well the address you wish to publish in the DNS. |
| 09:47.05 | murble | axelS: can you telnet etc to your router? |
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| 09:47.10 | axelS | yeah, my external ip |
| 09:47.31 | axelS | i would assume there's a neat way to check that regularly with a little script? |
| 09:47.36 | axelS | hi AngelChild |
| 09:47.43 | murble | axelS: shouldn't be too difficult. |
| 09:48.36 | Leeds | morning AngelChild |
| 09:49.15 | axelS | murble: how would i ammend the nsupdate script with the ext ip i got from my "discovery script"? |
| 09:49.37 | AngelChild | heya |
| 09:50.40 | murble | axelS: nsupdate -k mykey << EOUPDATE |
| 09:50.47 | murble | server mynamserver |
| 09:50.52 | murble | zone myzone |
| 09:50.57 | axelS | thx |
| 09:51.17 | axelS | btw. here's a script and/or daemon: http://www.johnwyles.com/archives/2004/11/02/perl_dynamic_ip_script.php |
| 09:51.21 | murble | update add ${HOST}.${ZONE} . 60 IN A $MYIP |
| 09:51.22 | murble | etc |
| 09:52.01 | murble | axelS: that won't work very well if you have transparent proxies in the way. |
| 09:52.11 | murble | best to connect to your router and see what is really going on. |
| 09:52.36 | axelS | hmm, good idea |
| 09:53.07 | axelS | right gotta run out for a bit - bbl |
| 09:54.17 | AngelChild | reports of people being shot on a tube train now |
| 09:54.32 | AngelChild | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4706787.stm |
| 09:55.06 | Leeds | oh for fuck's sake |
| 09:56.19 | gregj | damn fuckers |
| 09:57.51 | axelS | oh well |
| 09:58.44 | Leeds | they're going to close the northern line again... they really want to stop me going shopping |
| 09:59.01 | Leeds | "Armed officers have shot a man at Stockwell station" |
| 09:59.36 | gregj | yep, ripp off bastard |
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| 10:01.06 | wethrin | Just been confirmed now on the news |
| 10:01.31 | Leeds | eyewitness says three plain-clothes policeman chased an asian man onto the train as it was in the station, he half-fell, half-was-pushed on the train, they shot him 5 times |
| 10:02.03 | wethrin | Hm. Maybe I shouldn't carry my laptop and Netra next week :) |
| 10:04.08 | Leeds | southern branch of the northern line is closed from 1047 |
| 10:04.11 | rhowe | hm, wikinews is lacking much information |
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| 10:05.28 | Leeds | wonder where my xchat just went... |
| 10:05.30 | Leeds | I've got news24 streaming |
| 10:09.45 | murble | the stream isn't working for me. |
| 10:09.48 | iTron | Me too </aol> |
| 10:09.55 | iTron | No, it's working for me. |
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| 10:10.08 | Cope | Hello.... |
| 10:10.20 | Leeds | for what it's worth, I'm using http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/live/bb/rm/video/now1_bb.ram |
| 10:10.22 | Leeds | hey cope |
| 10:10.39 | Cope | any idea where I can get a firefox binary? I'm on an xp machine with no admin rights, and the installer won't run |
| 10:10.54 | rhowe | wikinews is sucking quite badly with regard to this :) |
| 10:11.06 | rhowe | Cope: You can download a .zip file from ftp.mozilla.org |
| 10:11.10 | Leeds | rhowe: rapidly changing - very little official information |
| 10:11.12 | rhowe | Cope: The installer doesn't really do much |
| 10:11.26 | iTron | Heh - "The game's afoot". |
| 10:11.36 | Cope | rhowe: sure, but it's not doing anything wich results in a working firefox |
| 10:12.08 | iTron | Armed police surround a Mosque in East London |
| 10:12.15 | Leeds | "armed police have surrounded a mosque in east London" - from Reuters |
| 10:12.16 | rhowe | CNN have a mammoth article, although lots of it isn't directly related http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/07/22/london.tube/index.html |
| 10:12.26 | Leeds | Cope: as mentioned by rhowe :-) |
| 10:12.26 | wethrin | Ha. Person shit |
| 10:12.28 | wethrin | *shot |
| 10:12.40 | rhowe | Cope: There's also a USB key version of firefox and thunderbird |
| 10:14.28 | Cope | i can't find a .zip |
| 10:14.35 | Cope | ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/mirror/mozilla/firefox/releases/1.0.6/win32/en-GB/ |
| 10:14.47 | Cope | just the exe |
| 10:16.10 | rhowe | ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/firefox-1.0+.en-US.win32.zip |
| 10:16.19 | rhowe | Hm, looks like only the nightlies are released as .zip files |
| 10:16.34 | rhowe | and not with a British locale by default |
| 10:17.42 | gregj | some ppl like to travel in circles ;) |
| 10:19.01 | Cope | highbury: ping |
| 10:19.03 | rhowe | o/~ i jen nae gwit ga e bbal gan nae ip ga e |
| 10:19.55 | iTron | rhowe: I don't understand Martian. ;) |
| 10:20.08 | rhowe | Korean ;) |
| 10:23.13 | Leeds | http://www.werenotafraid.com/images/219/Mike_UK.jpg :-) |
| 10:23.39 | iTron | Two suspect packages in the mosque - police. |
| 10:23.51 | rhowe | Leeds: Hmm.. |
| 10:24.18 | rhowe | Leeds: I've heard about 70% of these tracks before, though listening to .kr radio streams :) |
| 10:26.28 | Leeds | rhowe: sorry about that :-) |
| 10:26.40 | Leeds | next time I'll try to get an album you've not heard... |
| 10:26.57 | rhowe | Leeds: Oh no, it's cool :) |
| 10:27.02 | iTron | Tube train shooting eyewitness : "I saw an Asian guy - looked Pakistani - running onto the train, pursued by three police - they pushed him to the floor, and unloaded 5 shots into him" |
| 10:27.34 | iTron | <BBC> Do you think that killed him? <Eyewitness> "Er, yeah, he's pretty dead" |
| 10:27.51 | iTron | The BBC annoys me sometimes. |
| 10:27.57 | gregj | :] |
| 10:28.00 | gregj | he's pretty dead |
| 10:28.02 | gregj | heheheheheh |
| 10:29.39 | rhowe | Leeds: http://www.boajjang.com/index.php?id=19 :) |
| 10:32.07 | Leeds | rhowe: http://www.hko.gov.hk/wxinfo/news/2005/pre0721e.htm |
| 10:32.26 | rhowe | Leeds: Yeah, I saw |
| 10:32.29 | rhowe | Leeds: Pretty nuts |
| 10:33.08 | Leeds | rhowe: and http://www.geocities.com/hkhemlock/papers.html |
| 10:33.22 | Cope | hoorah - firefox! |
| 10:33.51 | Leeds | Cope: yay :-) |
| 10:35.00 | rhowe | Leeds: Oh cool :) ta |
| 10:36.52 | Leeds | rhowe: and, less funny, but more mature: http://simonworld.mu.nu/ |
| 10:37.20 | rhowe | Leeds: http://www.bigwhiteguy.com/ is another |
| 10:40.23 | Leeds | nice |
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| 10:46.43 | wethrin | COPE! |
| 10:46.55 | wethrin | I made up my own serial cable for the Netra |
| 10:48.44 | rhowe | 155 all out |
| 10:48.53 | rhowe | Hm, not too far behind .au, but still behind :) |
| 10:49.51 | Leeds | Cope: ff working? |
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| 10:55.45 | Cope | ff? |
| 10:56.02 | rhowe | Leeds: It's a pretty good album :) |
| 10:56.21 | rhowe | Leeds: I was getting worried - lots of her new stuff is weird, but this is good :) |
| 10:57.03 | wethrin | Cope: Firefox |
| 10:57.32 | Leeds | rhowe: frankly, it all seems weird to me |
| 10:57.55 | Cope | ff is indeed working |
| 10:58.16 | Leeds | eyewitness on the BBC: "I had to call my boss and cancel the meeting, now I'm waiting for the pub to open - I need a scotch" |
| 10:58.22 | Cope | wethrin: good good |
| 10:58.38 | Cope | wethrin: sorry I'm so crap - rather a lot going on atm |
| 10:59.15 | murble | Leeds: i though thty ealready fixed pub opening? |
| 11:00.15 | Leeds | murble: I have no idea - just quoting |
| 11:00.17 | wethrin | Cope: No worries about it |
| 11:00.32 | wethrin | Will you come into town next Friday? Or should I meet you during the week? |
| 11:00.38 | wethrin | (the week after, that is) |
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| 11:46.01 | Leeds | wethrin: ping |
| 12:06.26 | Leeds | wethrin: unping... I'm going out |
| 12:25.52 | iTron | No leaping over ticket barriers today. ;) |
| 13:28.02 | JAV | hello all |
| 13:28.39 | iTron | "Police snipers reoprted on Harrow Road" - BBC |
| 13:38.57 | wethrin | Leeds: pong |
| 13:38.59 | wethrin | Hum |
| 13:50.33 | iTron | Looks like the police are going to storm some building near Harrow Road - running commentary from the Beeb.. |
| 14:23.58 | George | yay |
| 14:24.01 | George | passport application sent off |
| 14:39.44 | Cope | anyone with high google fu today? I have failed to learn how to get into the BIOS of a Toshiba Tecra 550CDT |
| 14:44.25 | rhowe | bios access |
| 14:44.26 | rhowe | Hold the ESC key during power-on. Press F1 when prompted. |
| 14:44.32 | rhowe | http://monkey.org/~aaron/stuff/tecra.html |
| 14:45.14 | rhowe | It didn't take me 5 minutes - I just saw your message now :) |
| 14:45.27 | rhowe | It was the 2nd entry on the first search I made :) |
| 14:45.59 | rhowe | In fact, it appears I found you complete instructions for installing OpenBSD on it :) |
| 14:46.08 | rhowe | Albeit an old version of OBSD |
| 14:47.25 | rhowe | FYI, this is the search I made: "Tecra 550CDT" bios press |
| 14:52.15 | rhowe | Hm, new search engine. Find your US sex offenders here - http://www.nsopr.gov/ |
| 14:57.14 | rhowe | heh, origami house - http://www.robogumby.com/papercrane/ |
| 16:05.29 | Leeds | foo |
| 16:16.21 | wethrin | bar, Leeds |
| 16:16.27 | wethrin | wherefore you pang earlier today? |
| 16:25.26 | Leeds | wethrin: I was just checking j-colo accounts and wanting to confirm that you a) got your money back from the back for the non-deposited cheque and b) therefore still owe us that money |
| 16:26.25 | wethrin | Yes to both |
| 16:27.37 | wethrin | Do you know how long you're still going to keep machines there? |
| 16:27.40 | Leeds | right |
| 16:27.41 | Leeds | no |
| 16:28.16 | Leeds | last time I saw the other blokes one of them was getting married and the other was best-man-ing - so not the best time to be discussing |
| 16:28.21 | wethrin | Hmm. But if I was to get a new machine, would it be better to find somewhere else? |
| 16:28.56 | Leeds | I would think so, yes |
| 16:29.11 | wethrin | Right. |
| 16:29.15 | Leeds | to be honest... |
| 16:29.35 | wethrin | In which case, I'd take hades out around the 4th/5th of August |
| 16:29.59 | Leeds | ah - you're planning to get a new machine in a couple of weeks? |
| 16:30.36 | wethrin | I have a new machine sitting on my desk in my room |
| 16:31.04 | Leeds | ah |
| 16:31.24 | Leeds | can I confirm with you next week? |
| 16:31.52 | wethrin | If it's early - I'd need to email $new_place and let them know I'd like a machine in there |
| 16:32.06 | Leeds | do you *have* a $new_place? |
| 16:33.37 | wethrin | I have one in mind |
| 16:35.33 | wethrin | Exonetric |
| 16:37.14 | Gonzo | hi any1 skilled with fonts-config ? i've just apt upgraded fonts-config and freetype2 on suse 9.3, fonts in console are fine but every other X application displays some ugly font |
| 16:37.33 | Gonzo | i meant konsole |
| 16:37.44 | Gonzo | i'm using kde |
| 16:40.47 | Leeds | Gonzo: George is our local kde expert, with gregj backing him up |
| 16:41.51 | George | what? |
| 16:42.36 | wethrin | Leeds: George is no expert |
| 16:43.04 | George | precisely |
| 16:43.20 | Gonzo | well it's not really a kde issue |
| 16:43.29 | Gonzo | it's really something messed up in Xft |
| 16:43.29 | Leeds | wethrin: but, but... he's a kde developer!!! surely that means he |
| 16:43.49 | Leeds | he's fully-equipped and ready to give technical support on all kde and non-kde issues to all comers? |
| 16:43.55 | Gonzo | i ran fonts-config several times |
| 16:44.04 | Gonzo | and i still get these ugly fonts |
| 16:44.25 | wethrin | Leeds: Heh |
| 16:44.54 | Gonzo | so nobody familiar with Xft or fonts-config? |
| 16:46.00 | George | Leeds: hush |
| 16:46.45 | Leeds | Gonzo: do you actually mean font-config? |
| 16:47.44 | Gonzo | right |
| 16:47.45 | Gonzo | fontconfig-2.3.2.20050712-1.1 |
| 16:48.52 | Leeds | see, my problem is - and it's really really nothing against you - whenever I see "I apt upgraded X and it doesn't work" my answer has to be "yup, that happens if you use generic packaging systems like that" |
| 16:49.51 | Leeds | ibot change 570 hkd to gbp |
| 17:19.57 | George | Jul 22 18:09:26 cherry postfix/smtpd[15427]: warning: SASL authentication failure: cannot connect to Courier authdaemond: No such file or directory |
| 17:20.00 | George | grumble |
| 17:21.36 | wethrin | ha |
| 17:31.28 | Leeds | the NOW SHOW! |
| 17:52.51 | George | woot. |
| 17:52.56 | George | wethrin: ha at what? |
| 17:55.17 | Leeds | it's a strange audience-less version of the Now Show, and less funny |
| 18:15.10 | gregj | how's going in london ? |
| 18:15.26 | gregj | no mad ppl today, after shotting ? |
| 18:16.31 | Leeds | nope - not heaving with people, but not mad or empty |
| 18:17.02 | gregj | ? |
| 18:17.40 | Leeds | I was on TCR and Oxford Street this afternoon - they weren't very very busy, but there were plenty of people around |
| 18:23.21 | Leeds | gregj: so you're not coming to London this week, right? |
| 18:23.35 | gregj | noe |
| 18:23.48 | Leeds | scared? |
| 18:24.36 | gregj | nope, broke |
| 18:24.56 | Leeds | bah |
| 18:27.49 | Leeds | so there's apparently a LUG meeting in HK next weekend - and I should be around for it :-) Pity it's in Cantonese, really... |
| 18:39.40 | gregj | ;) |
| 18:39.48 | gregj | time to learn new language |
| 18:40.35 | Leeds | maybe |
| 18:41.02 | Leeds | I went to a LUG meeting in Israel - I could follow the talk, but no-one really spoke to me... |
| 18:41.45 | gregj | I thought they speak english quite well up there |
| 18:42.17 | Leeds | where, Israel or HK? |
| 18:45.11 | gregj | both really |
| 18:45.23 | gregj | both are common wealth, right ? |
| 18:45.39 | Leeds | nope |
| 18:45.49 | Leeds | neither is, really... but both are ex-empire |
| 18:45.59 | gregj | oh, almost the same :] |
| 18:47.05 | Leeds | technically, Israel wasn't part of the Empire |
| 19:33.42 | mozrat | Good evening |
| 19:33.53 | Leeds | hi |
| 19:46.47 | Leeds | "you were called today at 20:45 hours. We do not have the caller's number to return the call" |
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| 19:47.21 | Leeds | sash: hey! |
| 19:47.48 | sash | Hello Leeds et al, how's life? |
| 19:47.58 | Leeds | ooh... depends on when we last spoke :-) |
| 19:48.19 | sash | Are you still working for Sun, still in the UK? |
| 19:48.33 | Leeds | ah, that long ago, was it? :-) |
| 19:48.51 | Leeds | I'm semi-working, but not for Sun and not in the UK |
| 19:49.09 | Leeds | waiting for a visa to come through before I'm formally working... |
| 19:50.23 | Leeds | I am on the verge of being employed by a bra company based in Hong Kong, manufacturing in Sri Lanka |
| 19:50.37 | sash | Do you have experience of motoring insurance claims? |
| 19:50.49 | sash | Leeds: You'd make a fine model |
| 19:50.49 | sash | ) |
| 19:50.52 | Leeds | limited and unsuccessful, I'm sorry to say |
| 19:50.53 | gregj | ;] |
| 19:50.56 | sash | ;) |
| 19:50.59 | Leeds | :-) |
| 19:51.24 | sash | Unsuccessful due to lack of witnesses? |
| 19:51.49 | Leeds | nope - due to them saying that the problem was wear and tear and therefore not covered |
| 19:55.29 | gregj | yeah, they always try to make it as not covered |
| 19:55.55 | Leeds | b'stards that they are |
| 19:57.07 | gregj | what happened to your car ? |
| 19:57.52 | Leeds | hit a speed bump, broke something, engine died shortly afterwards |
| 19:59.20 | gregj | sue the city |
| 19:59.35 | gregj | speed bumps shouldn't do any damage |
| 19:59.46 | gregj | unless you were driving 50mph :] |
| 20:00.29 | Leeds | I did think of suing Oxford... |
| 20:01.19 | gregj | they do that in poland |
| 20:02.48 | gregj | also when the road is in very bad condition (many holes) |
| 20:04.12 | wethrin | sash! |
| 20:04.46 | sash | Hello Dan. |
| 20:05.52 | wethrin | How's life? |
| 20:08.07 | sash | wth: It's not too good. I've been in a motor accident but have escaped with grazes and bruises. Unfortunately, my only mode of transport is a write off. |
| 20:08.17 | wethrin | Shit :-/ |
| 20:09.00 | sash | I don't fancy taking public transport at the moment. |
| 20:09.14 | wethrin | And taxis are a bit pricy? |
| 20:09.43 | sash | I've been advised to keep cab receipts and submit them to the insurer. |
| 20:11.11 | wethrin | Good idea |
| 20:11.50 | sash | My experience of taxis has not been +ve, so am loath to sit in one. |
| 20:12.12 | wethrin | :-/ |
| 20:26.49 | wethrin | AAAARGHHHH |
| 20:30.49 | mozrat | ummm |
| 20:30.53 | mozrat | all OK there wethrin ? |
| 20:31.00 | Leeds | glug glug glug |
| 20:31.25 | wethrin | Fileserver was working okay for the last few days. So I put the covers back on, put it into its little slot, and it start giving errors |
| 20:31.29 | wethrin | HATEFUL THING |
| 20:31.37 | Leeds | overheating? |
| 20:32.38 | wethrin | Don't think so |
| 20:32.45 | wethrin | Hard disk says DMA timout |
| 20:32.46 | wethrin | *timeout |
| 20:32.51 | wethrin | but this time it's a different disk |
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| 20:58.44 | *** join/#gllug sash (voidzero@ukato.freeshell.ORG) |
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| 22:56.22 | mozrat | any Fedora using folks here? |
| 22:57.27 | George | ugh. |
| 22:59.46 | mozrat | George: yes |
| 22:59.48 | mozrat | exactly |
| 23:00.13 | George | heh |
| 23:18.23 | mozrat | God I hate Red Hat |
| 23:22.17 | mozrat | hows the work experience going George? |
| 23:28.18 | highbury | openyoureyestolinux |
| 23:28.37 | highbury | dang! |
| 23:28.48 | mozrat | I read that as open youre yes to Linux |
| 23:28.55 | mozrat | but that didn't make sense :) |
| 23:28.55 | highbury | there goes another dumb password! |
| 23:29.00 | mozrat | heheheh |
| 23:29.32 | mozrat | at least it wasn't "password" |
| 23:29.49 | highbury | it was long as well |
| 23:30.04 | mozrat | yep |
| 23:30.14 | mozrat | but no substitutions |
| 23:30.26 | highbury | no point really |
| 23:30.29 | mozrat | 0p3ny0ur3y3$7ol1nuX |
| 23:30.34 | mozrat | would be much sadder |
| 23:30.50 | mozrat | (j) |
| 23:31.00 | highbury | all common substitutions are automatically tried by crack/john the ripper |
| 23:31.06 | mozrat | true |
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| 23:31.47 | highbury | I like keyboard shifted passwords. type something but a couple of keys shifted to left or right |
| 23:31.55 | mozrat | yes |
| 23:32.13 | mozrat | the first letters of a phrases isn't too bad either |
| 23:32.35 | George | mozrat: nearly done |
| 23:32.48 | highbury | except common phrases like Twinkle Twinkle Little Star etc |
| 23:33.21 | mozrat | twitwilitsta |
| 23:33.24 | mozrat | not too bad |
| 23:33.39 | mozrat | geoisaravhom |
| 23:34.04 | highbury | can't guess |
| 23:34.12 | mozrat | George is a something something |
| 23:34.20 | highbury | lol |
| 23:34.22 | mozrat | trying to bait him |
| 23:34.23 | mozrat | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:34.41 | George | mozrat: I'm a something something? |
| 23:34.49 | George | gnome user? |
| 23:34.49 | mozrat | George: you are! |
| 23:34.52 | highbury | boarding school can have that effect |
| 23:35.01 | mozrat | george is a fine young fellow |
| 23:35.04 | George | highbury: blah. there's nothing wrong with boarding school |
| 23:35.23 | George | mozrat: that would be a something something something... |
| 23:35.43 | George | I've been at boarding school since I was 8 |
| 23:35.58 | highbury | parents live far away? |
| 23:36.06 | George | no |
| 23:36.08 | George | 20 minutes away |
| 23:36.17 | highbury | or do they just need the room spare for lodgers |
| 23:36.21 | George | no |
| 23:36.25 | George | my room is always free |
| 23:36.43 | highbury | so do you enjoy it? |
| 23:36.47 | George | it's ok |
| 23:36.52 | George | it means I escape my parents :) |
| 23:36.52 | highbury | or are you just use to it? |
| 23:37.05 | highbury | s/use/&d |
| 23:37.22 | George | heh |
| 23:37.25 | George | no idea |
| 23:37.31 | George | I've been at boarding school for a LOOONNNGGG time |
| 23:37.46 | highbury | anybody else going to OpenTech tomorrow? |
| 23:38.01 | George | OpenTech? |
| 23:38.16 | highbury | The BBC / NTK event |
| 23:38.19 | George | mozrat: going to LWCE in October? |
| 23:39.19 | highbury | http://www.ukuug.org/events/opentech2005 |
| 23:39.46 | George | who on earth is the Ms Lene Jenson person who posted on gllug? |
| 23:40.05 | George | from VA, USA |
| 23:40.10 | George | seems a bit odd |
| 23:40.29 | highbury | she's posted before, and some of us have helped her |
| 23:40.51 | George | erk |
| 23:41.00 | George | starting a search in a folder in KMail with 90000 emails in it is not a good idea |
| 23:42.02 | highbury | yep, kmail+spamassassin grinds my machine into the dust |
| 23:42.19 | highbury | + large mbox folders |
| 23:43.10 | George | well, it's quite snappy here |
| 23:43.13 | George | I'm using Maildir |
| 23:43.24 | George | there's about 140000 emails in my Maildir |
| 23:44.08 | George | mozrat: ping |
| 23:45.02 | highbury | I'm up to 8Gb of mail folders |
| 23:45.25 | George | erk |
| 23:45.47 | George | I'm only at 866MB |
| 23:46.06 | Blissex | George: 140000 email in a Maildir works well only if directories are indexed, and not terribly well even then, consider the case of grepping... |
| 23:46.52 | George | well, it works fine here |
| 23:47.17 | Blissex | George: «works fine» until it does not :-) |
| 23:47.45 | George | blah |
| 23:47.46 | George | IT WORKS FINE |
| 23:47.47 | George | :) |
| 23:48.00 | mozrat | ummmmmmm |
| 23:48.08 | mozrat | working on a clients server in New York |
| 23:48.10 | mozrat | FC2 |
| 23:48.17 | mozrat | looking in /var/log/samba |
| 23:48.30 | mozrat | you know how you have a log file per IP address that connects |
| 23:48.42 | mozrat | they have a lotta lotta log files |
| 23:48.45 | mozrat | from internet IP addresses |
| 23:49.10 | Blissex | mozrat: that is the default config, and I prefer to change that to something less insane. |
| 23:52.45 | mozrat | Blissex: yeah, but I was concerned that this "internal file server" had had connections from a few hundred public IP addresses |
| 23:54.01 | Blissex | mozrat: not unusual :-) Thats why you can restrict served IPs in the config :-) |
| 23:54.34 | mozrat | Blissex: but it's supposed to be firewalled off |
| 23:55.21 | Blissex | mozrat: worrying, but consider VPN connections. |
| 23:55.34 | mozrat | Blissex: true |
| 23:56.14 | Blissex | mozrat: however VPN connections are a risk in themselves. Bah! |
