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| 08:32.16 | wethrin | heh |
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| 14:36.50 | voyager250 | i am new to linux and have installed fedora core 4. i am very happy with it however i have a big problem. i can not get on the net. i use a bt voyager 205 adsl router and my PC has a nic inside. Everything is properly connected but the router's DSL light blinks away. What can i do? |
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| 14:54.01 | zachary | ello |
| 14:57.09 | voyager250 | can u help? |
| 14:58.09 | zachary | might be able to, what's wrong? |
| 14:58.21 | voyager250 | i am new to linux and have installed fedora core 4. i am very happy with it however i have a big problem. i can not get on the net. i use a bt voyager 205 adsl router and my PC has a nic inside. Everything is properly connected but the router's DSL light blinks away. What can i do? |
| 15:00.33 | zachary | I haven't dealt with that combo, but I'll see what I can find. |
| 15:00.47 | voyager250 | ok |
| 15:14.18 | zachary | BT Voyager 205 is a modem/router w/ web based interface. Right? |
| 15:14.49 | voyager250 | yes |
| 15:22.45 | zachary | OK. Done some reading. This router shouldn't care what os you are running. Most of the problems I've had with BT is the login name or password not entered correctly: username@exchange.btinternet.com. |
| 15:25.10 | zachary | According to the manual, what does the blinking light indicate? |
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| 15:36.05 | bt-voyager250 | sorry.my diaup cuts me off every 2 hours |
| 15:41.49 | zachary | what was the last statement that you received from me. |
| 15:44.11 | bt-voyager250 | dunno |
| 15:45.04 | zachary | According to the Voyager 205 manual, what does the blinking light indicate. |
| 15:45.17 | bt-voyager250 | manual, what manual? |
| 15:47.01 | zachary | ok, it's been a while since I dealt with BT. Any characters by the light? |
| 15:49.09 | bt-voyager250 | characters? Two solid green lights are Power and Ethernet. DSL blinks |
| 15:50.31 | zachary | how did you configure the router? |
| 15:50.46 | bt-voyager250 | http://192.168.1.1 |
| 15:55.08 | zachary | It looks like the router is not authenticating with bt. If you can pull up the the routers configuration via web interface, and your default route and dns on the client have the right settings. I would call bt tech support. |
| 15:56.10 | bt-voyager250 | i did. they do not support linux in any way or form |
| 15:57.24 | zachary | Don't tell them that, just say you are configuring it with the web based interface. And you just need to confirm settings. |
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| 17:39.37 | mozrat | hello chaps |
| 17:55.19 | zachary | hey mozrat! How's things? |
| 17:57.55 | mozrat | Good thanks zachary |
| 17:57.59 | mozrat | yourself? |
| 17:58.37 | zachary | Having a mild confrontation with PERL. But otherwise pretty good! |
| 18:00.50 | mozrat | Good oh |
| 18:00.56 | mozrat | SAMBA is my nemisis tonight |
| 18:01.06 | mozrat | specifically the inability to chown to a A.D user |
| 18:01.17 | mozrat | although if I use that users uid number it resolves the name |
| 18:01.22 | zachary | I think it is the other side of SAMBA that could use a good ass kicking! |
| 18:01.30 | mozrat | zachary: true :) |
| 18:03.01 | zachary | I tried connecting Mac OS 10.3.9 to the default samba settings of Suse 9.3, it didn't go too well. The server could be seen, but coun't login. But that's for another day. |
| 18:03.32 | mozrat | unfortunately this is for work so I can't walk away and leave it |
| 18:03.41 | mozrat | I'm annoyingly close to getting it working |
| 18:03.52 | mozrat | Gnome sees the users for changing ownership |
| 18:03.55 | mozrat | bash doesn't |
| 18:06.09 | George | 'tis mozzywozzywoo |
| 18:06.26 | mozrat | hallo George |
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| 19:47.27 | George | lunch? |
| 19:48.24 | Leeds | lunch |
| 19:49.08 | George | ergh |
| 19:49.25 | George | how many other people don't agree with this gibi/mibi/kibi crap? |
| 19:49.25 | Leeds | it's typical when I go to these particular friends for Saturday lunch - tend to end up staying rather late... last time I stayed long enough for 'lunch' to include a trip to Ikea in the evening, and dinner :-) |
| 19:50.22 | Leeds | it's annoying, but I understand the point - and one of the people I just spent the afternoon with is called Miki, which confused me |
| 19:50.43 | George | heh |
| 19:51.08 | George | well, I think this reversion to giga meaning 10^9 and gibi being 1024^3 sucks |
| 19:52.32 | Leeds | I think the point is that giga is used by different people to mean different things, while gibi always means 1024^3 |
| 19:53.12 | George | yeah |
| 19:53.17 | Leeds | the fact is that giga isn't a reliable prefix to read |
| 19:53.21 | George | but in terms of computers giga has /always/ been 1024 |
| 19:53.31 | George | unless you're an evil hdd manufacturer trying to make people believe disks are bigger |
| 19:53.39 | George | well, 1024^3 |
| 19:54.10 | George | besides, 'GiB' takes an extra byte. |
| 20:04.29 | Leeds | wow: overshadowed.com |
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| 20:08.09 | mozrat | GAHHHH, winbind.. DIE |
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| 20:33.49 | zachary | hey, sash, ltns! |
| 20:40.18 | sash | lo zach, how's life? |
| 20:40.32 | Leeds | mmm... Hong Kong Comics and Games Festival next week :-) |
| 20:41.51 | sash | Leeds: Neil B responded and asks how you are. |
| 20:42.20 | Leeds | sash: ah - I'll drop him a line... was he helpful? |
| 20:44.45 | sash | Leeds: I think so, but I require specific legal advice. He's still waiting for compensation. |
| 20:45.38 | Leeds | sash: sure you need specific advice - just thought he might be able to tell you what he did and what he found out |
| 20:46.50 | zachary | sash, pretty good, US sucks, kids have grown(they are no longer slobber monster). |
| 20:47.08 | zachary | how are things with you? |
| 20:55.16 | George | Your empathy score is: 0 out of 20 |
| 20:55.16 | George | Average score for men: 7.9 out of 20 |
| 20:55.16 | George | Average score for women: 10.6 out of 20 |
| 20:55.18 | George | :D |
| 21:00.32 | mozrat | zachary: Beer and dynamite appreciated, thanks |
| 21:01.08 | mozrat | [root@NYC1LINUX01 pam.d]# getent passwd | grep valerie |
| 21:01.08 | mozrat | EWNS+valerie.garral:x:16778208:16777226:Valerie Garral:/home/EWNS/valerie.garral:/bin/false |
| 21:01.18 | mozrat | [root@NYC1LINUX01 pam.d]# chown EWNS+valerie.garral ~/anaconda-ks.cfg |
| 21:01.19 | mozrat | chown: `EWNS+valerie.garral': invalid user |
| 21:01.25 | mozrat | :( |
| 21:01.34 | George | mozrat: I'm a hard headed git :D |
| 21:02.44 | mozrat | so many people on Usenet and Google with the same problem but no solution |
| 21:03.20 | mozrat | a very nice but clueless chap on #fedora tried to talk me through mount -t cifs when I asked there |
| 21:07.50 | Leeds | mozrat: wish I could help you :-( |
| 21:12.07 | mozrat | Leeds: thanks mate |
| 21:12.23 | mozrat | just noticed it hasn't been patched forever and there are some samba updates |
| 21:12.29 | mozrat | maybe that will bring some luck |
| 21:16.02 | mozrat | So I guess what we've learnt from Friday is this.. if a police points a gun at you and shouts "Stop or I'll fire" probably best not to try and run away |
| 21:16.11 | mozrat | s/police/policeman/ |
| 21:17.50 | sash | moz: I've heard that SO19 were in plainclothes. If true, I wouldn't blame a coloured person for running from a gang of armed white thugs. |
| 21:28.42 | mozrat | sash if they shouted "police: stop" ? |
| 21:30.49 | sash | moz: If I didn't see uniforms, I'd try to escape. I don't know the whole story, I don't know why the suspect wasn't dropped earlier w/out the need to kill him. |
| 21:32.11 | mozrat | I think to effectively "drop" a suicide bomber you need to take them out pretty quickly... leg and torso shots still give them a bit of energy to hit the button so to speak |
| 21:32.46 | mozrat | that guy was very unlucky but he shouldn't have run... they did chase him from street level onto a train |
| 21:33.47 | George | wibble |
| 21:33.49 | George | wibble I say |
| 21:34.32 | sash | George: Kibble? Kibbled wheatgerm rye? |
| 21:34.38 | George | bah. |
| 21:37.33 | Leeds | mozrat: except that they manage to arrest them in Israel: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3116951,00.html |
| 21:37.47 | sash | moz: Isn't a trank gun adequate? |
| 21:38.26 | George | woo. |
| 21:39.33 | stephen | I wouldn't have thought so, since the person wouldn't be incapacitated for more than a few seconds, and then they'd have another change to detonate the explosives |
| 21:40.04 | stephen | s/change/chance/ |
| 21:40.28 | mozrat | sash, I don't think so.. |
| 21:41.01 | stephen | I do see where you're coming from though, I don't like the "shoot first, ask questions later" mentality |
| 21:41.15 | mozrat | stephen: I agree, neither do I. |
| 21:41.33 | mozrat | it sounds like this chap (who may not have spoken English) had a few chances to surrender |
| 21:41.57 | mozrat | so whilst his death is tragic I don't think we can really have a go at the officers involved too much |
| 21:42.19 | mozrat | unless we're prepared to step into their shoes and start chasing possible suicide bombers onto trains |
| 21:42.29 | mozrat | oh, my problem seems to have gone away |
| 21:42.35 | mozrat | samba-wise |
| 21:42.42 | stephen | hurrah |
| 21:42.56 | mozrat | don't you love consistency |
| 21:43.00 | mozrat | [root@NYC1LINUX01 pam.d]# chown EWNS.NET+cmtadmin ~/anaconda-ks.cfg |
| 21:43.00 | mozrat | [root@NYC1LINUX01 pam.d]# ls -l ~ |
| 21:43.00 | mozrat | total 3688 |
| 21:43.00 | mozrat | drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 May 21 2004 aj |
| 21:43.00 | mozrat | -rw-r--r-- 1 EWNS+cmtadmin root 2030 Jun 11 2004 anaconda-ks.cfg |
| 21:43.10 | mozrat | spot the missing .NET |
| 21:49.22 | Leeds | mozrat: that's not unexpectable |
| 21:54.30 | mozrat | Leeds, how do you mean? |
| 22:01.45 | mozrat | anyway - time to not be tapping on my laptop |
| 22:01.49 | mozrat | catch you chaps later |
| 22:21.34 | Leeds | mozrat: if you're still there (which would be a bad thing...) - GNU chown accepts . as a separator between user and group - doesn't sound like that's precisely what's happened in your case, but it would explain weirdness |
| 22:32.20 | Leeds | hmm... I wonder how many books first published in 1776 are still in print today... |
| 22:37.14 | mozrat | Leeds, in wandering past.... thanks! |
| 22:37.15 | Leeds | wethrin: Wealth of Nations |
| 22:37.38 | zachary | wethrin finally wakes up, good morning. |
| 22:38.14 | wethrin | hi zach |
| 22:38.20 | wethrin | Hey, I've been in Warrington most of the day |
| 22:38.25 | wethrin | Leeds: Ah |
| 22:41.55 | zachary | yea, so you say! |
| 22:43.12 | wethrin | Yeah. I picked up hardware |
| 22:46.00 | zachary | Anyone savy with using format statements in Perl? |
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| 22:59.50 | edward | did anybody go to open tech 2005? |
| 22:59.59 | wethrin | I went to Warrington |
| 23:19.00 | Leeds | edward: any good? |
| 23:51.16 | Leeds | http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/ThinGuy?entry=the_war_on_terror_as |