| 00:01.26 | rhowe | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:01.28 | Leeds | morning rhowe |
| 00:01.35 | Leeds | have fun? :-) |
| 00:01.37 | rhowe | It appears I might have a girlfriend :) |
| 00:01.48 | Leeds | hmm... |
| 00:01.53 | rhowe | Although she's skipping the country for 2 weeks on Monday |
| 00:02.06 | Leeds | going to see her b/f in HK? :-) |
| 00:02.11 | rhowe | And again in October for a month, and then in January permanently |
| 00:02.13 | rhowe | She has no bf |
| 00:02.25 | rhowe | Well, she does, me |
| 00:02.26 | Leeds | where is she going in Jan? |
| 00:02.30 | rhowe | China |
| 00:02.32 | wethrin | Oooh. Good for you, rhowe! |
| 00:02.34 | rhowe | Back home |
| 00:02.36 | Leeds | hmm... |
| 00:02.44 | rhowe | Guangdong (not a million miles from HK) |
| 00:02.48 | Leeds | indeed |
| 00:03.04 | rhowe | But I don't think we will really stay together after that |
| 00:03.32 | Leeds | I wouldn't imagine so |
| 00:03.48 | wethrin | hm |
| 00:03.57 | rhowe | Still, a most agreeable day |
| 00:04.05 | rhowe | And hopefully some more to look forward to |
| 00:05.01 | Leeds | sounds good... |
| 00:05.35 | Leeds | rhowe: so, lunch? |
| 00:06.03 | rhowe | Leeds: Sounds like a plan, although in terms of cash I have about 3 quid until Friday |
| 00:06.13 | rhowe | Leeds: Credit card's a bit better |
| 00:06.32 | Leeds | ah... was going to suggest Sammi's sit-down - they've done it up and I've not been in there since |
| 00:06.46 | rhowe | Well I can take a cash advance from the machine |
| 00:06.54 | Leeds | ugh |
| 00:07.05 | rhowe | It won't be earning interest long, and repayments to the credit card pay off the advance before other things |
| 00:07.06 | Leeds | they may take cards over a certain amount... |
| 00:07.13 | rhowe | So it wouldn't really cost me much |
| 00:07.53 | Leeds | okay |
| 00:08.35 | rhowe | Anyway, how often do I have a friend over from HK? |
| 00:08.44 | rhowe | (Actually, seems to be more than once a year ;) |
| 00:08.53 | rhowe | Lately, once a month :P |
| 00:09.04 | Leeds | true, but possibly less often in the near future |
| 00:09.31 | Leeds | http://www.linux.org.hk/en/node/709 |
| 00:10.03 | rhowe | lynx friendly? |
| 00:10.26 | rhowe | I'm in Knoppix (with KDE) and no mouse |
| 00:11.13 | Leeds | apart from the fact that half the page is in Chinese - yes, it's lynx-friendly |
| 00:11.35 | rhowe | haha I love that bit |
| 00:12.00 | rhowe | 'and built custom Debian packages to meet the needs of emerging solutions' |
| 00:12.04 | rhowe | I should add that to my CV |
| 00:12.11 | rhowe | 'ran make-jpkg' |
| 00:12.28 | Leeds | heh |
| 00:12.47 | rhowe | 'This LinuxTalk is presented in Cantonese' |
| 00:12.55 | rhowe | That should be interesting for you :) |
| 00:13.48 | Leeds | I did go to a LUG meeting in Hebrew - but my Hebrew is *significantly* better than my Cantonese |
| 00:14.08 | rhowe | According to a guy reading a paper on the train, the police have stated the guy they shot in the head 5 times was innocent |
| 00:14.18 | Leeds | indeed |
| 00:14.34 | Leeds | he was a Brasilian guy who challenged the police and refused to submit to them... |
| 00:14.38 | wethrin | Oh well |
| 00:14.54 | rhowe | And he jumped the barriers |
| 00:15.02 | wethrin | that was silly |
| 00:15.05 | rhowe | I guess you could call it a penalty fare |
| 00:15.24 | Leeds | TfL getting tough on fare-dodgers? |
| 00:15.42 | rhowe | Just wait to see what they do to travelcard touts :) |
| 00:15.54 | Leeds | acid bath? |
| 00:16.07 | wethrin | Hehe. Sounds like an excellent idea |
| 00:17.01 | wethrin | heh |
| 00:17.09 | rhowe | There were two rather heavily armed policemen at a train station I went through today |
| 00:17.12 | rhowe | Swinton, I think it was |
| 00:17.35 | Leeds | apparently there was a station in East London closed briefly this afternoon |
| 00:17.51 | rhowe | Good |
| 00:18.02 | rhowe | Fewer east londeners able to get into town has to be a positive move |
| 00:18.11 | wethrin | :) |
| 00:18.20 | wethrin | rhowe: But they can't get out of town either |
| 00:18.31 | Leeds | "fun fun fun in the sun sun sun" |
| 00:18.52 | rhowe | Sure they can, just not to east london - it's a win-win situation |
| 00:19.02 | Leeds | rhowe: they might come north! |
| 00:19.23 | rhowe | Leeds: Fine by me :) |
| 00:19.43 | Leeds | just give me about 5 days to escape |
| 00:20.03 | rhowe | It'd probably take them 5 days to figure out what the northern line does at Camden |
| 00:20.37 | Leeds | it does do strange things... |
| 00:20.54 | rhowe | But there are hidden TV screens telling you what's going on |
| 00:21.00 | rhowe | You just need to know where to look |
| 00:21.48 | rhowe | (south end of the southbound platforms, there's a connecting corridor. In there is a screen embedded in the wall with details for both platforms :) |
| 00:26.28 | Leeds | rhowe: so I'll see you at Hendon some time tomorrow? |
| 00:27.12 | rhowe | Leeds: Yup |
| 00:27.35 | Leeds | sometime noon-1pm ish? |
| 00:27.41 | rhowe | Leeds: I would assume about 1h15min or so to get from here to Hendon Central tube |
| 00:28.02 | rhowe | Yeah, probably closer to 1, but I'll try and make it earlier rather than later |
| 00:28.10 | rhowe | Depends how late I'm up with Celine |
| 00:28.29 | wethrin | It's cheaper for me to get a ticket from Durham to Berwick-Upon-Tweed, and Berwick to Edinburgh, than to get Durham to Edinburgh direct |
| 00:28.41 | George | Berwick-upon-Tweed. Nice name. |
| 00:28.41 | George | :D |
| 00:28.49 | wethrin | Yup |
| 00:28.54 | Leeds | rhowe: no hurry, particularly |
| 00:29.04 | rhowe | wethrin: I read some some wonderful examples in The Times once |
| 00:29.28 | wethrin | :) |
| 00:29.35 | rhowe | wethrin: Some of the things people had worked out were just astounding |
| 00:30.10 | rhowe | Apparently the cheapest national rail season ticket is to get from one side of some island to the other |
| 00:30.37 | Leeds | rhowe: Great Britain? |
| 00:30.40 | rhowe | But if you have an annual season ticket, you get a big discount on this guy's commuter route. So much so, that it's cheaper than buying the season ticket for that route |
| 00:30.50 | rhowe | Leeds: Not so cheap, I suspect |
| 00:31.08 | rhowe | Plus, because he's a gold card holder (annual season ticket), he can travel 1st class on those services |
| 00:31.22 | rhowe | Or something like that - can't remember the details |
| 00:32.42 | wethrin | Right.... |
| 00:33.08 | rhowe | There was also one that took about 3 paragraphs of explaining |
| 00:33.19 | rhowe | But it was so elegantly put together, you couldn't fail to be impressed |
| 00:33.44 | wethrin | heh |
| 00:37.57 | Leeds | "If people don't know what you're doing, they don't know what you're doing wrong" - Yes, Minister |
| 00:38.10 | wethrin | :) |
| 00:45.33 | wethrin | Why can't the UK be sensible, and have all train journeys priced only according to distance, and not different prices according to when the ticket was booked |
| 00:49.40 | rhowe | .win 2 |
| 00:51.26 | rhowe | ta |
| 00:56.12 | wethrin | night! |
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| 07:48.34 | highbury | morning |
| 08:18.25 | mozrat | Morning highbury |
| 10:02.10 | wethrin | How would I turn off console blanking in Linux? |
| 10:06.32 | mozrat | moin wethrin |
| 10:06.53 | wethrin | hi |
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| 10:10.07 | Leeds | bye |
| 10:10.10 | wethrin | bye |
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| 11:55.24 | gregj | what does "saucy twat" means (or whatever it is spelled) |
| 11:58.15 | eye69 | I'm not sure I want to say what I think it means. |
| 12:02.33 | Leeds | heh |
| 12:04.20 | Leeds | saucy mean, approximately, "naughty" or "dirty" - it's not a particularly strong word, and could be a compliment under the right conditions |
| 12:05.42 | Leeds | twat is really a generic insult, usually against a man, and depending on context, could be anything from "idiot", "fool" ,"prat", "plonker" up to "bastard" and so on |
| 12:05.55 | Leeds | it's also a rarely-used word for ladies bits... |
| 12:06.11 | Leeds | saucy and twat aren't really words I'd expect to see used together as a phrase |
| 12:06.31 | Leeds | twat is also used, purely in a slang sense, as hit - as in "I twatted him one" |
| 12:27.27 | JAV | afternoon |
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| 15:49.21 | gregj | Leeds: well, they use it in Canada thou |
| 15:49.31 | gregj | I've heard it in some radio advert |
| 15:49.49 | gregj | "yoouuu saucy twat! |
| 15:50.17 | gregj | in that context, I thought it meant something like 'you naughty one' |
| 15:51.14 | gregj | I've tested it on some American friend of mine, and he didn't seem to be insulted, just said laughing "thanks" |
| 15:57.21 | Leeds | gregj: I assumed you were asking about English, not a foreign language :-) |
| 15:57.46 | Leeds | I think the phrase would be considered too strong to use in a radio ad here |
| 15:58.42 | gregj | ok |
| 15:59.11 | gregj | well, Canadian folks are leaning more towards English english than US |
| 15:59.29 | Leeds | sure |
| 15:59.44 | gregj | for instance, americans don't take word queue in general as "line up", where is Canadians use both |
| 16:07.30 | gregj | I had little bit unpleasant conversation with some drunk dude in pub because I asked him "where's end of the queue" |
| 16:07.35 | gregj | that was funny |
| 16:08.49 | Leeds | lovely... |
| 16:09.04 | Leeds | anyway... /me gone again - back to the same restaurant I had lunch in, for takeout this time :-) |
| 16:09.27 | gregj | in London ? |
| 16:09.39 | Leeds | yup |
| 16:09.53 | Leeds | back later... |
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| 20:43.43 | wethrin | evening |
| 20:47.58 | George | how would I accept data from stdin in a bash script then redirect it to another command? |
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| 20:52.55 | rhowe | George: | script | elsewhere |
| 20:53.01 | rhowe | George: It's called a pipeline |
| 20:54.01 | George | erm |
| 20:54.25 | wethrin | read a ; echo $a | command |
| 20:56.20 | Blissex | wethrin: thats not too different from 'command' alone |
| 20:58.01 | George | wethrin: I think that's only reading the first line of stdin |
| 20:58.22 | rhowe | George: Best use tee, I guess |
| 20:59.12 | rhowe | TMPFILE=`mktemp -t myscriptXXXXXX`; tee "$TMPFILE" | command; INPUT="$(<"TMPFILE")" |
| 21:01.25 | George | I just did tee | command |
| 21:01.27 | George | it worked fine |
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