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00:57.51 | highbury | hmmm, why not just "command" the tee seems redundant |
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10:16.49 | *** topic/#gllug is Greater London LUG. Next meeting: probably September 2005; Web site: http://www.gllug.org.uk; Wiki: http://wiki.gllug.org.uk; Channel stats at http://www.jonmasters.org/irc/gllug; Pictures at http://gllug.org.uk/ircphoto.html [need new piccy's] |
10:21.47 | Leeds | hmm... breakfast time, I think |
10:23.47 | gregj | burp |
10:24.00 | gregj | that reminds me I need to have some breakfast too |
10:41.57 | Leeds | what sort of stupid fucking company would ever let there be a "we're currently very busy, please call back later" message on the IVR option "I want to make a payment" |
10:45.12 | Leeds | you'd think they don't actually want my money at all |
10:46.22 | wethrin | :-) |
10:51.24 | Leeds | at least it's on an 0800 number |
10:52.49 | wethrin | Mm |
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11:24.07 | Leeds | bulldog still not answering... |
11:24.32 | Leeds | BT, on the other hand, just set themselves an interesting challenge - their automated system offered to call me back within an hour |
12:35.12 | Leeds | slightly over an hour, but good enough... |
12:35.55 | wethrin | :) |
12:36.42 | eye69 | Was the machine nice to you? |
12:38.21 | Leeds | eye69: she is :-) |
12:38.52 | Leeds | although, I told her why I was calling, and she's put me in a queue to customer services... at least they called me back |
12:49.25 | Leeds | still holding... |
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13:40.37 | Leeds | mozrat: not in a dancing mood? |
13:41.07 | mozrat | Leeds, :D |
13:41.47 | Leeds | have you been Tangoed? |
13:42.13 | Leeds | etc. etc. etc. |
13:42.33 | mozrat | That would preferable to dinking around with A.D and winbind all this time |
13:45.43 | Leeds | I'm sure it would |
13:46.17 | mozrat | just so random |
14:21.11 | Leeds | you've got to love a piece of code which has three "if... break" statements, one after the other, all with a pithy comment: /*Arse.*/ |
14:21.51 | wethrin | :) |
14:22.31 | Leeds | this is in the suprisingly-short source for GNUDoku :-) |
14:22.38 | wethrin | heh |
14:48.11 | Leeds | bulldog still busy... |
15:10.52 | Leeds | what's the bet I can get through on the sales line? |
15:12.39 | Leeds | straight in, of course |
15:14.14 | Cope | heh |
15:16.26 | Leeds | see, thing is, I'd normally just say "okay, I don't need to speak to anyone - I'm going to cancel your payment and I expect you to cancel my service - please contact me for any outstanding payments" - except that I changed my cc number in January and they've not been able to take any funds from me since then anyway! |
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15:44.34 | mozrat | sorry - but it's a pile of shit |
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15:59.37 | JAV | afternoon |
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16:45.57 | Leeds | hmm... apparently their hours are "9am to 17:30pm" |
17:12.09 | Catalyst | intriguing |
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17:47.48 | Leeds | foo |
17:52.36 | highbury | bar |
17:56.09 | George | yay |
17:56.12 | George | flights booked. |
18:01.31 | Leeds | bah |
18:01.35 | George | Leeds: what? |
18:01.46 | Leeds | virgin's website is down and apparently has been all day |
18:01.53 | George | heh |
18:02.59 | Leeds | on the other hand, I'm proceeding towards selling my car to a friend, and it looks like there's loads of room in Upper Class for me to upgrade to on Thursday :-) |
18:03.34 | George | where're you off to? |
18:03.40 | Leeds | um... HK? |
18:03.45 | George | on thursday? |
18:04.43 | Leeds | yes |
18:04.46 | George | heh, cya then :P |
18:08.46 | Leeds | bye |
18:24.40 | George | wibble |
18:43.55 | Leeds | now here's something I've never done before - data dvd in hdc, dvd-r in hdd... using growisofs to effectively dd between them :-) |
18:46.53 | Leeds | ibot change 100 usd to gbp |
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20:50.55 | George | it's. AngelChild |
21:03.22 | mozrat | It's George |
21:05.09 | George | heya mozrat |
21:05.28 | mozrat | hey George |
21:05.57 | George | hrmm. VISA is a recursive acronym. |
21:06.08 | mozrat | really? how cool |
21:06.13 | mozrat | what does it stand for? |
21:06.18 | George | "VISA International Service Association" |
21:06.59 | mozrat | mm |
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21:55.10 | George | wibble |
21:55.11 | George | wibble I say |
21:55.12 | George | wibble |
21:57.23 | mozrat | I PROCLAIM THAT FEDORA SUCKS ASS |
21:57.28 | mozrat | thank you good night |
21:57.31 | AngelChild | pwnt |
21:59.00 | mozrat | Just redone all the samba foo I tried (and failed on) with Debian and it works a treat |
21:59.09 | wethrin | Hateful fucking shit fileserver |
21:59.22 | mozrat | wethrin: is it Fedora cos that could be your first problem |
21:59.37 | wethrin | No |
21:59.40 | wethrin | It's Deb*an |
21:59.58 | mozrat | I love debian |
22:00.20 | wethrin | I have no love for it |
22:00.25 | wethrin | Or any other distro :) |
22:00.46 | mozrat | :) |
22:03.10 | mozrat | I spent about 6 hours on the weekend battling FC2 and failed and did the exact same config on debian in 1 hour including a dist-upgrade to Sarge |
22:03.56 | wethrin | Mmm. Very irritatingly, Linux has "helpfully" re-assigned my SCSI devices |
22:28.07 | George | mozrat: :) |
22:28.36 | wethrin | Hm. Would I trust Dabs more, or eBuyer more to deliver something ASAP? |
22:32.54 | George | mozrat: I may be still up for that laptop btw |
22:33.02 | George | mozrat: now that I'm going to be paid more money :D |
22:36.15 | George | wethrin: dabs |
22:36.30 | wethrin | Thanks |
22:36.40 | George | wethrin: I wouldn't trust ebuyer to deliver anything on time really |
22:36.45 | George | wethrin: komplett's very good though |
22:36.45 | wethrin | Shittylink |
22:36.54 | wethrin | I need something ASAP, though |
22:37.01 | George | wethrin: what do you want? |
22:37.09 | wethrin | Hard drive |
22:37.15 | George | heh |
22:37.18 | wethrin | Replacement 200GB SATA |
22:37.22 | George | I normally use komplett for hard drives |
22:37.34 | wethrin | Will they guarantee delivery by Wednesday? |
22:37.55 | George | I normally get next day delivery on their parcelforce thing |
22:38.33 | George | but ymmv |
22:43.41 | wethrin | I've tended to find that |
22:43.58 | George | scan are quite good too |
22:44.13 | George | I ordered 5 300GB disks from them last week on monday (after business hours) |
22:44.17 | George | they arrived on the wednesday |
22:44.21 | wethrin | That's good |
22:44.26 | wethrin | Was that guaranteed, though? |
22:44.28 | George | no |
22:44.31 | wethrin | Hm |
22:44.33 | George | but that's normal for me |
22:44.36 | wethrin | :) |
22:44.39 | George | and they came from bolton |
22:44.57 | wethrin | My luck tended to be that the more urgently I needed something, the longer it took to arrive |
22:45.09 | George | ergh |
22:45.09 | George | sucks |
22:46.53 | George | scan use citylink though |
22:47.44 | wethrin | Fuck dabs. Why can't I give them a mobile number? |
22:48.31 | George | because |
22:48.38 | George | their web designers are on crack |
22:48.48 | George | dabs has one of the worst web interfaces ever |
22:48.50 | George | with ebuyer |
22:51.31 | wethrin | They asked for a number and then told them it couldn't be a mobile. Yet they REQUIRE A FUCKING PHONE NUMBER |
22:51.38 | wethrin | My mobile is the ONLY FUCKING PHONE I've got |
22:51.40 | wethrin | FUCKWITS |
22:51.45 | wethrin | Well, there's the office number |
22:52.07 | George | send an evil email to their webmin |
22:52.13 | wethrin | HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
22:52.20 | George | ? |
22:52.30 | George | dude, you're starting to sound like me |
22:52.31 | George | are you OK? |
22:52.32 | wethrin | You realise I have more chance of teaching a fish to speak Esperanto than getting in contact with a human at Dabs? |
22:52.45 | George | try phoning them :) |
22:52.53 | wethrin | Got a phone number? |
22:52.55 | George | heh |
22:52.56 | George | no |
22:52.59 | George | I have an idea |
22:53.00 | wethrin | Exactly |
22:53.03 | George | DDoS them |
22:53.06 | wethrin | Pff |
22:53.08 | George | that'll surely get you in contact with a human |
22:53.26 | wethrin | Aha. whois records have someone |
22:53.44 | wethrin | But as long as the order gets sent out tomorrow and arrives by Wednesday I'll be okay |
22:55.20 | wethrin | What's the Linux firewire support like? |
22:55.40 | George | good |
22:55.47 | George | better than usbstorage |
22:55.51 | George | (which FUCKING SUCKS) |
22:55.54 | wethrin | I plug in a disk and it should Just Work(TM)? |
22:55.57 | George | no |
22:56.03 | wethrin | Oh |
22:56.11 | George | you need to load the sbp2, ieee1394 and ohci1394 mods |
22:56.15 | George | then it comes up as a scsi device |
22:56.19 | wethrin | Right |
22:56.36 | wethrin | And Debian Sarge supports ufs? |
22:56.59 | George | why the smeg are you using UFS? |
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22:57.57 | wethrin | It's the FS on a disk I have |
22:58.04 | George | I repeat |
22:58.05 | George | why the smeg are you using UFS? |
22:58.18 | wethrin | It's supported by OS X and real Unices |
22:58.24 | George | ergh |
23:02.55 | wethrin | Never mind. Linux is shit |
23:03.36 | George | what? |
23:06.08 | wethrin | It doesn't support UFS |
23:06.17 | George | yes it does. |
23:06.19 | wethrin | And how the fuck do I get into single-user mode using grub? |
23:06.26 | George | I don't use grub |
23:06.31 | wethrin | Sensible |
23:06.45 | wethrin | Well, $person on Debian list said the OS X ufs isn't supported |
23:06.48 | wethrin | Maybe he's talking shit |
23:06.49 | George | carbon linux # grep UFS .config |
23:06.49 | George | CONFIG_UFS_FS=m |
23:06.49 | George | # CONFIG_UFS_FS_WRITE is not set |
23:07.09 | George | it is supported, but it was readonly when I last checked (in 2001) |
23:07.50 | wethrin | Right, well, in that case, what's a supported PCI firewire card? |
23:08.09 | George | dunno |
23:08.12 | George | my onboard stuff works |
23:09.29 | George | 0000:00:07.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host Controller (rev 80) (prog-if 10 [OHCI]) |
23:09.33 | George | <PROTECTED> |
23:09.35 | George | <PROTECTED> |
23:09.37 | George | <PROTECTED> |
23:09.40 | George | <PROTECTED> |
23:09.43 | George | <PROTECTED> |
23:13.43 | wethrin | I don't have onboard |
23:14.29 | George | haha |
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