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00:29.56Leeds"Earlier this week the South China Morning Post reported that [Apple] is looking to open three outlets in heart of Hong Kong."
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09:31.49wethrinmorning
09:33.39gregjmorning
09:40.56mozratmorning
09:58.13wethrinmozrat: You didn't come to the pub yesterday!
10:12.57mozratwethrin: sorry :(
10:13.00mozratgot stuck at work
10:13.27mozratby the time I finished I wasn't really in the mood
10:13.38mozratplus I punished my debit card mightily yesterday
10:15.42wethrinUse credit card instead :-)
10:15.58mozrat:)
10:16.54mozratwas it good?
10:24.00wethrinOh yes
10:24.06wethrinWe went to chimes. I had a tasty pie
10:25.06mozratMmm. Pie
10:26.12wethrinIndeed. Pie is good
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11:57.35mozratLeeds, Cool - what about?
11:59.01Leedsmozrat: anything I like, effectively - I think the "if there's a speaker, grab him and don't worry too much what he wants to speak about" issue applies just as much in HK as in London...
12:02.57mozrat:)
12:03.15mozrathow big is the LUG over there?
12:03.16Leedsoh, and I also now have an unmetered GPRS account
12:03.45eye69Leeds: I want that.
12:04.00Leedsnot so big today - maybe 20 people - but it was out of town a bit, apparently not their usual site - they usually get 50-60 and have had over 80
12:04.26Leedsstrangely enough, they meet approximately monthly on a Saturday afternoon at a University for a talk :-)
12:05.47Leedseye69: seems to work rather well - I found, downloaded and installed, and tested a Palm ssh2 client while shopping this afternoon
12:06.31eye69Ok. I run PuTTY on mine.
12:06.42Leedseye69: on a PalmOS machine?
12:07.00eye69No, it's a Motorola A1000 Symbian UIQ 2.1
12:08.02Leedscool
12:08.15Leedsgot a 1gig SD in mine :-)  been looking at the prices of 2gig cards
12:08.23eye69Am just installing UltraMP3 and Smartmovie
12:08.37mozratLeeds, get a blackberry!
12:08.40gregjLeeds: there are 2gigs SD ?
12:08.45Leedsmozrat: not going to happen
12:08.54Leedsgregj: there certainly are, and 4gig ones were announced last week
12:08.59gregjwow
12:09.07gregjbut they must cost a lot
12:09.23Leedsabout 85-90 quid
12:09.46Leedscash, in HK, that is
12:10.15eye69HK...hardware heaven...
12:10.18gregjand 4g?
12:10.24eye69I'm assuming here...
12:10.25Leedspretty much :-)
12:10.30Leedsgregj: $700 or so
12:10.37Leedsthat's US$
12:10.43gregjwow
12:10.56Leedsthat's the announced retail price - they're not shipping yet
12:11.32Leedsthe 2gig ones have only become widely available in the past couple of months or so
12:11.45gregjthey probably can do a lot bigger ones nowdays, but just waiting
12:12.19eye69Considering they've apparently been able to squeeze 512MB into a Transflash...
12:12.27LeedsI actually don't think so - that's pretty dense
12:14.43eye69I've just put a second head on my workstation, not realising that the PCI card has only 1MB of memory.
12:14.56eye69Time to buy a cheap dual head capable AGP card.
12:18.42Leedsoops
12:20.20morsingmozrat!
12:20.26mozratmorsing:
12:20.28mozrat!
12:20.31morsingWhat happened to you yesterday?
12:20.48mozratsorry morsing got stuck at work
12:20.50mozrat:(
12:21.40mozratnext time
12:22.37mozratwho else went apart from wethrin and yourself?
12:22.40mozratand rhowe
12:31.01GeorgeLeeds is anti-social
12:34.51morsingmozrat: rhowe wasn't there. Only Evil Dave
12:37.10mozratevil Dave?
12:38.22clyphoxI'm partly evil and partly dave.... is that enough?
12:38.29clyphoxI wanna be evil dave....
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12:40.25Leeds-Treofoo! :-)
12:40.30mozratbaaaaa!
12:40.54mozratLeeds, ever played with tepache?
12:41.01mozratPyGTK thin
12:41.03mozratthing
12:41.22morsingmozrat: DrHyde on IRC
12:42.03Leeds-Treomozrat: never heard of it
12:46.59clyphoxa "Code Sketcher"
12:47.08clyphoxNOW I get it!!
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13:03.00Georgewethrin: ping
13:06.00Leeds-Treoblah...
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13:06.57clyphox..
13:09.35Georgewethrin: when you're about ping me - I want to ask some questions about dur
13:22.55clyphoxwhats dur?
13:30.00Georgedurham
13:30.15LeedsGeorge: oh-ho - having second thoughts?
13:30.18Georgeno
13:30.25GeorgeI need 6 choices
13:30.43clyphoxwhy not 5?
13:30.49Georgebecause UCAS does 6...
13:32.42Leedsyou have to fill in all your choices?
13:33.41Georgewell, it would be silly not to
13:41.52Leedswhy, since you have no intention of going anywhere but cambridge
13:50.10Leedsfor what it's worth, and for the record, making sure the Mac mini is using ehci (i.e. USB 2) for the external hard drive makes performance much much better
14:31.02clyphoxI'm conscidering buying one tomorrow/monday
14:31.25clyphoxbeen discovering osx this week.. can't say its been an unpleasant experience at all
14:31.41clyphoxeven darwinports was self-defeatingly easy to get going :-/
14:32.29clyphoxMany many years of Linux has left me with a disposition to "expecting" problems to surface.. quite sureal NOT having issues on the simplest of issues
14:34.29murbleI'd be more tempted by an apple laptop.
14:35.08clyphoxthats what I've been playing with ;)
14:35.22clyphoxwant a lappy but must be good and save money
14:35.26murbleonly problem with is the ibooks are a horrible colour and the power books are too expensive.
14:35.32clyphoxbesides do you know how much weed £300 can buy!?!?!?
14:35.57clyphoxmurble: exactly the issue I'm trying to work arround.. know any nice students?
14:36.48murbleclyphox: my ickle sister was a student until recently, and got a 15" ibook for free mit max ram, photoshop etc. snotfair i never go that as a student ...
14:37.17clyphoxI never got to even be a student.. started working at 16/17
14:37.19murblehowver she had tutition fees and i didn't.
14:37.40clyphoxboth better than my options
14:38.15clyphoxOTOH I get to be a teen with an adults disposable income now :)
14:38.19murblei wasted nearly 7 years with post 16 education.
14:38.58clyphoxouch!
14:39.26murblehmm '95 - '01
14:39.31clyphoximte=time
14:39.48clyphoxand the late nineties was a good time to party!
15:00.31clyphoxI need a student
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16:19.47morsingZach!
16:27.07morsingWhen are you coming over to visit?
16:46.17zacharyAs soon as you buy me a ticket!
16:46.25zacharyyou can make it a oneway!
16:49.24zacharyouch man!
16:50.03Leedscould be worse... could be Iraq
16:50.23Leedsor even somewhere dangerous like London!
16:52.50mozratmadagascar
16:52.52mozratquite good
16:56.20Leedsgregj: likely, no
16:59.00mozratgregj - I had it installed a while ago
16:59.05gregjand and
16:59.14mozratisn't there a live installable CD for this type of stuff now
16:59.26LeedsI quite liked it as a front-end on the xbox, but I've no idea what the backend is like
16:59.33mozratgregj - it's a good product but I didn't have a very good TV card
17:00.59Leedsgregj: is there dvb-t in .pl?
17:01.19gregjsome
17:01.24gregjlivecd you say
17:01.32gregjwouldn't mind to get something to try
17:01.57gregjmythTV is different thing, right ?
17:04.09Leedsyes
17:05.07Leedsmythtv is more focussed on backend - nice recording, automatic scheduling, things like that
17:10.34gregjthat's what I am more interested in ;)
17:10.45gregjbut something that will work with polish cable tv
17:13.52morsingzachary: Why one-way?
17:47.29zacharymorsing: I wouldn't want to come back!
17:49.48morsingzachary: Sorry to hear that. Bad job situation?
17:53.13gregjhttp://gj.pointblue.com.pl/fun/trailer_man.avi
17:53.17zacharyno, just bad culture situation
17:56.55eye69zachary: Classic american conservatism?
17:58.57eye69gregj: Hilarious :)
17:59.05gregjyep :-0
18:00.40morsingOne EuroMillions jackpot winner
18:04.19murblemorsing: do they get there winnings in euros?
18:05.14morsingmurble: Would expect so. How many countries doesn't use Euros?
18:05.41murblemorsing: well sinc ei've never heard of it outside the UK...
18:06.43morsingmurble: There has only ever been one UK winner in it's year and a half history!
18:07.04murbleoh so it is rigged as well!
18:07.39murbleand i bet the profit goes to french farmers.
18:08.04murbleor another equally unworthy group.
18:08.14morsingmurble: No - People here doesn't buy tickets because they hate europeans
18:08.32morsingSales are 2mill vs. 30mill in Spain
18:09.27murblewell name a single eurozone country that manages to keep public spending below 3% of GDP...
18:09.58morsingWhat does that have to do with anything?@?@??@!!!!!!!!!!!!111
18:10.25murblemorsing: 'cos the winnings are in euros as i understand it
18:10.51morsingmurble: winning are paid in the currency of the winners country
18:11.10morsingSo once in sterling, all others in Euros
18:15.11murbleso no danish, swedish, cypriot, Czech, Estonian, Lativen, Slovak, Polish, Hungarian, maltese, lithuanian and Slovenian winners?
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19:33.42morsingmurble: They are not part of the europaen lottery!
19:34.42murbleare they not european enough?
19:36.35morsingThey are either not interested enough or forbidden by law (like Denmark is)

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