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| 03:17.01 | Leeds | windows sucks so badly that it's not even funny |
| 05:30.58 | gregj | vista will change it :> |
| 05:33.13 | Leeds | been fighting with a broken IE all morning |
| 05:33.27 | gregj | you're doing html "development" ? |
| 05:33.39 | gregj | it is a challenge with IE |
| 05:33.55 | Leeds | not in the slightest - although, yes I am |
| 05:34.16 | Leeds | I'm trying to activate the MS ebook reader, so I can crack it, grab the keys, and pull them over to my Linux box :-) |
| 05:34.53 | Leeds | I'm all in favour of ebooks as long as they're in easy-to-crack formats :-) |
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| 06:57.06 | Leeds | hmm... okay, there may be a reason why this particular windows sucks so badly... avg has found 12 infected files so far, with 8 trojan horses between them... |
| 06:58.06 | Leeds | oh, there's another one |
| 07:01.24 | Leeds | call me paranoid, but I'm a little unhappy about there being - at least - one serious keylogger on the machine I was given here... |
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| 07:12.35 | morsing | Eyup! |
| 07:12.49 | Leeds | bloody windows |
| 07:15.26 | eye69 | Morning. |
| 07:16.10 | Leeds | wow seems quite nasty, some of the stuff on here |
| 07:22.42 | mozrat-ae | Hey guys |
| 07:27.13 | Leeds | ae? |
| 07:27.19 | mozrat-ae | Dubai! |
| 07:27.50 | Leeds | ah! |
| 07:28.03 | Leeds | so you're in the Middle West... |
| 07:28.07 | mozrat-ae | yes |
| 07:28.56 | mozrat-ae | quite like it here |
| 07:29.07 | Leeds | good shopping, so I hear |
| 07:29.32 | mozrat-ae | yes, I've been here for 2 days but this is my first day in the office (and therefore online) |
| 07:29.47 | Leeds | ah |
| 07:29.52 | Leeds | no wifi around? :-) |
| 07:30.15 | mozrat-ae | there is - but made an effort not to use it |
| 07:30.27 | Leeds | ibot change 1 gbp to hkd |
| 07:30.43 | Leeds | wow, back up to 14 |
| 07:31.56 | Leeds | I wonder if I'd be welcome in Dubai... |
| 07:33.38 | mozrat-ae | I'm sure you would be |
| 07:33.46 | mozrat-ae | there is a fair mix of people here |
| 07:34.50 | Leeds | seems that it's only Israeli passports which aren't welcome, not Israeli stamps in UK passports |
| 07:35.39 | mozrat-ae | ahh, actually I don't know. Last time I came here Amex asked me if I had Israeli stamps in my passport |
| 07:35.45 | mozrat-ae | but they didn't ask me this time |
| 07:36.12 | Leeds | unlike, say, Lebanon or Syria |
| 07:36.25 | Leeds | if you're going to Israel, and you're worried, get them to stamp a separate piece of paper |
| 07:36.45 | mozrat-ae | right |
| 07:36.48 | Leeds | and if you're going to Israel and want locals to hang out with, let me know :-) |
| 07:36.59 | mozrat-ae | :) |
| 07:37.01 | mozrat-ae | shall do :) |
| 07:37.27 | mozrat-ae | my MSN keeps dropping off in gaim |
| 07:37.36 | mozrat-ae | I wonder if it's the national proxy servers |
| 07:40.52 | Leeds | seems I wouldn't be welcome in Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia either |
| 07:41.17 | Leeds | "Blazing Tools Perfect Keylogger: DLL hook not found" - damn straight it's not found, you appaling piece of crap |
| 07:41.33 | mozrat-ae | to be honest those 3 countries are on the bottom of my list of "places to visit" anyway :) |
| 07:41.54 | mozrat-ae | I think the UK Embassy issued a warning for Saudi last week |
| 07:48.06 | Leeds | yesterday, by the looks of things |
| 07:49.23 | Leeds | Sri Lanka is on the "don't go to parts of this country unless it's essential travel" list... I wonder how that affects my insurance... |
| 07:50.02 | Leeds | oh, and I'm not welcome in Yemen |
| 07:50.48 | mozrat-ae | Leeds, I'd avoid Wales as well if I were you |
| 07:50.55 | Leeds | damn there goes my plans to travel the fundamentalist and anarchic countries of the Middle East... |
| 07:50.58 | mozrat-ae | nothing to do with your heritage, just avoid the place |
| 07:51.01 | Leeds | and Wales. |
| 07:51.47 | Leeds | I've been to Wales... crossed it off my list of places to have been to and never return |
| 07:52.00 | mozrat-ae | yep |
| 07:52.13 | mozrat-ae | best thing to ever come out of wales??? |
| 07:52.15 | mozrat-ae | the M4 |
| 07:53.00 | Leeds | Tom Jones? |
| 07:53.04 | Leeds | Wogan? |
| 07:53.29 | Leeds | part of .au? |
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| 07:55.25 | mozrat-ae | I like Tom Jones to be honest |
| 07:55.36 | mozrat-ae | Terry Wogan is Irish |
| 07:55.39 | Leeds | anyway, the nice thing about the HKD getting cheaper again is that I've now got a bunch of GBP in the bank here, which I can convert to HKD at market rat |
| 07:55.44 | Leeds | so he is... oops |
| 07:55.44 | mozrat-ae | Stereophonics are good |
| 07:56.14 | Leeds | of course, all things to come *out* of Wales... not things which are worth going to Wales to see |
| 08:00.51 | mozrat-ae | heh |
| 08:18.01 | Leeds | still trying to reinstall... |
| 08:18.59 | Leeds | it's like a spoiled child: "Install into that partition" "Shan't!" "Make a partition" "Shan't!" "Delete a partition and recreate it" "Shan't!" |
| 08:30.38 | morsing | beer |
| 08:30.42 | mozrat-ae | pulled wrong cable, disconnected self |
| 08:30.48 | mozrat-ae | hello morsing |
| 08:30.49 | Leeds | mozrat-ae: is there beer there? |
| 08:30.52 | morsing | Hello |
| 08:30.53 | mozrat-ae | Leeds yes |
| 08:31.13 | Leeds | good kosher Islamic beer? |
| 08:31.20 | morsing | Does anyone know if Jason is on some sort of holiday or leave? |
| 08:32.07 | Leeds | morsing: he last sent email to the gllug list on Tuesday... |
| 08:32.56 | mozrat-ae | in some resturants (with licence) in hotels, in night-clubs |
| 08:33.16 | mozrat-ae | don't know about kosher beer |
| 08:33.26 | Leeds | okay, halal |
| 08:33.51 | mozrat-ae | I saw a meat counter "Strictly for non-Muslims" yesterday |
| 08:38.29 | Leeds | and non-Jews, I'd guess, but they wouldn't say that :-) |
| 08:38.40 | mozrat-ae | exactly |
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| 08:39.51 | Leeds-Treo | testing 1,2,3 |
| 08:43.20 | Leeds | fucking https still not working! |
| 08:43.50 | Leeds | I've reinstalled windows to try to get IE to do https, and it's still not working |
| 08:44.04 | morsing | Leeds: Apache? |
| 08:44.46 | Leeds | morsing: what? |
| 08:45.01 | morsing | Is it running Apache? |
| 08:45.10 | Leeds | what, a brand new install of NT4? |
| 08:45.28 | morsing | Leeds: Yes |
| 08:45.46 | morsing | Ahhh... You're talking about the browser! |
| 08:45.55 | morsing | I though you were running a webserver! |
| 08:46.00 | morsing | s//t/ |
| 08:46.16 | Leeds | browser, browser! |
| 08:48.48 | michael | leeds; is there a specific reason why it has to be that browser? |
| 08:48.55 | Leeds | yes!!! |
| 08:48.56 | mozrat-ae | Leeds, any proxy information "automagically" fille in? |
| 08:49.03 | mozrat-ae | filled** |
| 08:49.07 | Leeds | mozrat-ae: not as far as we can tell... |
| 08:49.30 | Leeds | anyway, got it doing *some* https now - it'll talk to microsoft.com but not to lloydstsb.co.uk |
| 08:49.37 | Leeds | and then it crashed |
| 08:49.52 | mozrat-ae | latest version of I.E? |
| 08:49.56 | mozrat-ae | NT4 is so old |
| 08:49.58 | Leeds | that wsa 5 |
| 08:50.33 | Leeds | crashed while trying to download/install 6 |
| 08:50.56 | michael | Leeds: clear the SSL State. Check Security level. Check Certificates/publishers etc. |
| 08:52.48 | Leeds | it seems to be barely working enough to be useful at the moment |
| 08:52.48 | michael | Leeds: if all else fails, install alternative browser. most banks now work flawlessly with opera and firefox. |
| 08:53.13 | Leeds | michael: it's not about a bank - I have no trouble banking using firefox on my mac or lintel laptops |
| 08:53.42 | Leeds | it's about getting the ms ebook reader and getting it activated, so I can nick the keys and use them to liberate books I've bought so I can read them on PalmOS |
| 08:54.13 | michael | I see. a trivial hack that's not playing accordingly. :) |
| 08:54.29 | Leeds | indeed |
| 08:59.50 | mozrat-ae | Did I miss big news on the SCO-IBM front yesterday? My buddy emailed me about some new news |
| 09:00.00 | mozrat-ae | Linux kernel code in UNIXWare or something |
| 09:00.19 | Leeds | mozrat-ae: there are reports of such... having seen the source code in question, I couldn't possibly comment |
| 09:01.09 | michael | Leeds: How is it going? Want me to give it a try here? Free download and activation which requires a Microsoft passport account which i think i may have. |
| 09:01.48 | Leeds | michael: it's going, it's going - thanks :-) |
| 09:02.24 | Leeds | a newly-installed nt4 system is really rather useless |
| 09:04.48 | michael | that's why microsoft would like the world to upgrade to windows server 2003 :) |
| 09:18.04 | mozrat-ae | show them *2vnc :) |
| 09:19.07 | Leeds | well that seems to work |
| 09:19.20 | Leeds | mozrat-ae: I just did laptop and desktop next to each other showing mirrored images |
| 09:19.40 | Leeds | okay, I can't *download* ebooks using Linux, but I can read them :-) |
| 10:14.50 | Leeds | hometime... |
| 10:24.57 | rhowe | heh, anyone got a copy of Computing to hand? The backbytes section on the back is quite good this week |
| 10:25.21 | rhowe | Tim: "In the bottom right-hand corner of your screen, by the clock, you should see an ICA icon" |
| 10:25.28 | rhowe | User: "I don't have a clock" |
| 10:25.33 | rhowe | Tim: "You don't have a clock?" |
| 10:25.54 | rhowe | User: "The only thing I have in the corner is an envelope icon, an anti-virus icon, an ICA icon and something that says 10 past 10" |
| 10:35.44 | morsing | http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/pseries/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.aix.doc/aixprggd/diagunsd/dl_srn_src.htm |
| 10:41.18 | rhowe | morsing: What about it? |
| 10:41.29 | morsing | "Predictive Error"!? |
| 10:43.23 | rhowe | heh, no clue :) |
| 10:43.59 | rhowe | morsing: Maybe they fire when the AIX box sees IBM's stock drop slightly, to increase the number of engineer callouts? |
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| 11:43.18 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 11:54.45 | mozrat-ae | ibot kill "my connection to MSN" |
| 11:54.45 | ibot | ACTION shoots a super-inverse pseudoelectron gun at "my connection to MSN" |
| 11:56.48 | morsing | 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 C000 0014 4C2B 4C14 5537 3837 452E 3030 |
| 11:58.43 | mozrat-ae | ooh, you rogue morsing :P |
| 11:59.06 | morsing | Eh? |
| 12:01.41 | mozrat-ae | :) --- joking |
| 12:01.51 | gregj | he won't forgive ya |
| 12:02.04 | morsing | IT was a line from a device sense code error from AIX |
| 13:02.30 | mozrat-ae | and slightly damp? |
| 13:02.34 | morsing | beer |
| 13:23.56 | morsing | michael: Reverse video helps a bit |
| 13:24.07 | JAV | :) |
| 13:24.16 | JAV | afternoon |
| 13:24.34 | morsing | Afternoon |
| 13:25.12 | mozrat-ae | Hi JAV |
| 13:40.30 | michael | morsing: but it wouldnt help by giving life to #gllug |
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| 13:44.27 | jason_ukfsn | hi all |
| 13:47.11 | Leeds | evening jason_ukfsn |
| 13:47.38 | jason_ukfsn | how's life for Leeds ? |
| 13:47.53 | Leeds | not bad... you? |
| 13:48.47 | jason_ukfsn | OK. I'm getting into the diet habit and seeing results which is encouraging. |
| 13:49.04 | jason_ukfsn | Otherwise I'm almost ready to announce voip news |
| 13:49.43 | mozrat-ae | hello jason_ukfsn |
| 13:50.38 | jason_ukfsn | hi mozrat-ae, where are you (ae)? |
| 13:54.19 | Leeds | jason_ukfsn: dubai |
| 13:55.03 | mozrat-ae | jason_ukfsn: Dubai |
| 13:55.09 | mozrat-ae | sorry - was looking at other window |
| 14:48.53 | mozrat-ae | g'night all |
| 14:48.56 | mozrat-ae | time for dinner |
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| 14:57.16 | JAV | Leeds: http://www.ipodsubwaymaps.com/download.php#hongkong |
| 15:02.00 | George | 16:01 [www] -!- (process:14154): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_strcasecmp: assertion `s2 != NULL' failed |
| 15:02.04 | George | grumble. |
| 15:06.51 | skugg | bwahaha |
| 15:06.53 | skugg | oops. |
| 15:07.06 | skugg | did I type that out loud? |
| 15:07.16 | rhowe | George: It knows you're a KDE person |
| 15:07.50 | George | rhowe: that machine doesn't have X11 installed. |
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| 15:33.51 | morsing | beer |
| 15:36.27 | skugg | it's a bit early for me, but sure, if you're buying... ;) |
| 16:06.21 | gregj | rhowe: got cash already ? :. |
| 16:07.13 | rhowe | gregj: Yep :) Ta! |
| 16:08.35 | gregj | :] |
| 16:08.46 | gregj | well, it's me - thank you |
| 16:24.28 | George | it's GREG |
| 16:33.25 | gregj | it's boy George |
| 16:33.28 | gregj | :> |
| 16:34.47 | George | blah |
| 16:35.34 | gregj | bleih |
| 17:59.28 | rhowe | http://tinyurl.com/b488j |
| 17:59.32 | rhowe | Not a bad find on ebay, I thought :) |
| 18:05.22 | George | what do you think the odds are that it's been stolen? |
| 18:43.33 | Blissex|away | George: small, it is probably skipware... |
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| 20:12.07 | gregj | how do you call the "reason" of bank transfer in proper English ? |
| 20:12.32 | gregj | there's entry on (bank transfer) form that is called... |
| 20:14.15 | Blissex | gregj: usually that's the field that is communicated to the recipient to tell them why they got the money. |
| 20:14.34 | gregj | yep, but I want to know the name, not reason nor usage |
| 20:14.40 | Blissex | gregj: if you are paying a bill, usually the account number goes there. |
| 20:14.52 | Blissex | gregj: the name of whoever send you the money? |
| 20:15.22 | gregj | nope, that field you communicate in/with |
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| 21:51.32 | rhowe | gregj: I would just call it "comment" or "note" |
| 21:51.51 | rhowe | gregj: Or "description" perhaps |
| 22:12.05 | Erwin | Oh, I got ADSL the day after I moved into my new London flat, even though I was moving in from abroad :) |
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