00:16.43 | wethrin | Oops |
00:16.46 | wethrin | You've broken it? |
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00:20.03 | wethrin | night! |
00:22.22 | rhowe | Yeah, vinum well and truly b0rk :P |
00:22.25 | rhowe | fix it tomorrow |
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06:04.40 | resuDaed | anyone up? |
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06:25.37 | resuDaed | skugg_ : you up? |
06:53.13 | ebbeyes | morning ;) |
07:03.19 | George | Cope_: ? |
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07:09.49 | ebbeyes | hi leeds |
07:10.53 | George | eyup Leeds |
07:11.12 | ebbeyes | hi george |
07:11.34 | George | ello |
07:12.13 | ebbeyes | nice morning |
08:31.34 | resuDaed | morning all |
08:32.22 | resuDaed | I have more hubs/switches than boxes... strange |
08:32.57 | resuDaed | 8 hubs and only 6 boxes |
08:35.43 | ebbeyes | :O |
08:35.55 | ebbeyes | how many of them switches? |
08:36.34 | resuDaed | 1 :-) |
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10:56.47 | wethrin | morning |
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11:18.21 | Leeds | okay, I've managed to do absolutely nothing today |
11:21.40 | wethrin | Hurrah |
11:35.52 | Leeds | something has made my Treo extremely unstable today |
11:37.41 | wethrin | hm |
11:40.31 | wethrin | pebble? |
11:41.50 | Leeds | like rock only smaller? |
11:42.04 | wethrin | Don't remind me about Rock Linux |
11:43.19 | rhowe | Leeds: hm.. between 8 and 64Mb |
11:43.37 | rhowe | Leeds: It's basically Debian but rehashed so that it works nicer on CF cards and on Soekris-type boxes |
11:43.47 | wethrin | Run OpenBSD on Soekris |
11:46.21 | Leeds | back to the same question: eat in, eat out, or takeaway |
11:46.43 | wethrin | Takeaway |
11:46.52 | wethrin | (which is Eat In, isn't it?) |
11:47.08 | Leeds | nope |
11:47.24 | wethrin | OR do you not eat your takeaways in? |
11:47.29 | Leeds | eat in means either going to the supermarket or taking something from the fridge/freezer/cupboard |
11:47.38 | wethrin | Pedant :-P |
11:47.38 | Leeds | takeaway means going and buying a complete prepared meal |
11:47.49 | wethrin | Yes, but you eat it in |
11:48.14 | Leeds | true - but it's not the same as eating in |
11:48.49 | wethrin | Depends how pedantic you are in your definitions :) |
11:49.13 | Leeds | nope |
11:49.20 | wethrin | pff |
11:49.56 | Leeds | the other main difference is in cost - I can eat in for $0 (using already-present food) or maybe $50 (going to the supermarket), while takeaway is likely to cost more than that |
11:50.08 | wethrin | What's that in real money? |
11:50.29 | Leeds | ibot change 50 hkd to gbp |
11:51.07 | Leeds | on the other hand I could just go across the road to the local cafe (the nice one, not the nasty one - there are two) and have veggie fried noodles for $44+10% tip |
11:51.09 | wethrin | That's cheap. Go for takeaway. Less effort. And you earn far too much money |
11:51.16 | wethrin | Mm |
11:51.51 | Leeds | um... I'm waiting to see if anyone actually attempts to pay me this week, being start/end of the month and all - which would mark the first time I've actually been paid properly in HK |
11:52.12 | wethrin | Have you got an HK bank account? |
11:52.25 | Leeds | yes |
11:52.43 | Leeds | 2, in fact - an HKD current account and a GBP savings account |
11:52.54 | gregj | what's the frequency of current in UK ? |
11:52.56 | gregj | 50 or 60hz ? |
11:53.04 | wethrin | 50 |
11:53.16 | wethrin | Only US/Canada and some dodgy Asian countries use 60Hz |
11:53.31 | Leeds | yeah, the electrical system is pretty much UK - same plugs/voltage/frequency/etc. |
11:53.39 | Leeds | it's rather convenient :-) |
11:54.02 | gregj | wethrin: whole UEU for instance has 60 |
11:54.06 | gregj | and 230V |
11:54.19 | wethrin | UEU? |
12:08.55 | Leeds | hmm... no answer |
12:19.15 | wethrin | hum |
12:26.38 | Leeds | noodles it is |
12:26.47 | Leeds | when in Rome, etc. |
12:27.20 | Leeds | and yes, I'm aware I'm a long way from Rome... /me gone |
12:28.24 | rhowe | whee |
12:41.59 | wethrin | rar |
12:54.08 | Cope_ | ooh, where's Cope |
12:54.48 | wethrin | COOOPPPEEEE |
12:54.53 | Cope | wave wethrin |
12:55.03 | Cope | hello |
13:04.31 | ebbeyes | hiya |
13:42.56 | Leeds | mmm... rice&veg :-) |
13:44.16 | Leeds | I had "Buddhist vegetables" on the basis that they're probably reasonably safely vegetarian... |
13:45.53 | murb | Leeds: i read that as Buddhist vegiterians |
13:46.16 | murb | presuably if they were slaughtered in the appriate way. |
13:46.22 | Leeds | sure |
13:46.28 | Leeds | and as long as there's no pork thrown in |
13:47.12 | Leeds | the guy asked me if I wanted the fixed meal, I asked what it was, he said chicken, I said sorry, no meat, he said ah, you eat vegetarian food?, I said yes, he said, and no pork either? |
13:47.38 | Leeds | pork being such a staple that "no meat" and "vegetarian" obviously don't cover it :-) |
13:48.14 | murb | Leeds: have to start breading kosha pigs then.. |
13:48.24 | murb | in a vat. |
13:48.36 | Leeds | that's kosher |
13:48.58 | Leeds | and no, it wouldn't work... |
13:50.14 | murb | Leeds: if it was cheaper.. |
14:01.50 | rhowe | hm.. don't think I can get sarge down to 32Mb |
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14:12.52 | JAV | good afternoon |
14:19.43 | JAV | George: are you in Malaga? :D |
14:20.27 | George | yes |
14:21.50 | JAV | Málaga (Andalusia Region), Spain --> from http://conference2005.kde.org/ |
14:22.16 | George | yes |
14:22.18 | JAV | AndaluCia |
14:26.41 | Leeds | c=th :-) |
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14:28.45 | Leeds | resuDaed: BTW, did you get the message I left for you the other day? |
14:30.12 | JAV | 26 August - 4 September, 2005 KDE people have jobs, haven't they? :) |
14:33.12 | wethrin | No |
14:33.14 | wethrin | :) |
15:59.41 | George | I don't have a job :D |
16:00.05 | murb | ice cream sounds like a good idea. |
16:11.49 | wethrin | Indeed |
16:11.58 | wethrin | but then I won't feel like eating at dinnertime |
16:12.38 | Leeds | time to think about doing bed-like things here |
16:12.53 | wethrin | Heh |
16:18.37 | Leeds | actually, given that most of the day has involved bed-like things (to whit, lying in it), I should say sleep-like things |
16:20.53 | wethrin | :-) |
16:21.50 | wethrin | Sad bastard |
16:24.31 | George | what? |
16:24.41 | George | there was a key signing party today |
16:24.46 | wethrin | How incredibly sad |
16:25.03 | George | not as sad as doing 3 degrees |
16:25.08 | murb | wethrin: well to talk about it on irc maybe. |
16:25.18 | wethrin | murb: True |
16:25.25 | murb | to renew domains with nominet |
16:25.33 | wethrin | Now talking about a real party, that's good |
16:25.42 | wethrin | George: err... |
16:26.12 | George | ? |
16:26.58 | wethrin | Why's it sad being a student? |
16:28.23 | rhowe | hmm... hungry |
16:28.26 | rhowe | Someone feed me |
16:29.39 | wethrin | I have venison steaks to make |
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16:32.29 | JAV | 2 hours looking for a mp3-key win98 drivers |
16:32.46 | wethrin | heh |
16:32.52 | JAV | plug it in linux and it works |
16:32.59 | wethrin | heh |
16:33.09 | wethrin | I'll bet it's because your Linux distro is newer than Win98 |
16:33.11 | JAV | things are changing |
16:33.14 | wethrin | So you can't really compare |
16:33.24 | wethrin | It'll work fine with Win2k or WinXP, I bet |
16:33.28 | JAV | you are true :D |
16:34.12 | JAV | let's see... |
16:34.42 | JAV | 2002-07-08 |
16:34.57 | wethrin | So about Win2k SP2 |
16:35.06 | JAV | yes, win98 was installed before |
16:35.18 | wethrin | Yes. 4 years previously |
16:36.31 | JAV | yes, maybe not a fair comparation :) |
16:36.34 | wethrin | Indeed :) |
16:38.10 | JAV | yesterday I was trying to plug my synth here... I had a relative success |
16:38.39 | gregj | wethrin: ;) |
16:38.44 | JAV | recogniced, but it didn't work |
16:39.04 | JAV | so I'll have to read doc |
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16:40.24 | George | configure:32580: --silent --mode=link g++ -o conftest -W -Wall -Wimplicit -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wwrite-strings -g -I/usr/qt/4.0.1//include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DQT_THREAD_SUPPOR |
16:40.28 | George | T -D_REENTRANT -L/usr/qt/4.0.1//lib -L/usr/lib -L/usr/lib conftest.cc -lQtGui_debug -lpng -lz -lm -ljpeg -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lSM -lICE -lpthread -lQtGui_debug -lQtCore_debug 1>&5 |
16:40.32 | George | ./configure: line 32581: --silent: command not found |
16:40.35 | George | woops |
16:40.40 | JAV | the problem today is that it doesn't recognise it at all, no idea |
16:40.45 | wethrin | ha |
16:40.52 | wethrin | odd |
16:41.46 | JAV | Aug 27 21:50:27 rasca kernel: usb-midi: Found YAMAHA USB-MIDI device on dev 0499:1023, iface 0 |
16:41.56 | JAV | Aug 27 21:50:32 rasca kernel: usbmidi: /dev/midi01: in (ep:82 cid: 0 bufsiz:64) out (ep:01 cid: 0 bufsiz:64) |
16:42.09 | JAV | that was yesterday :( |
16:42.20 | wethrin | what's changed? |
16:46.36 | JAV | usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 6 |
16:46.36 | JAV | that's what says it now |
16:46.46 | JAV | maybe the order of modules |
16:47.18 | JAV | or something in the side of the synth |
16:55.37 | Leeds | hmm... I may have to attend: http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/08/28/1553234&from=rss |
16:58.22 | Leeds | looks like a really good and very appropriate thing |
17:03.18 | Leeds | foss.lk for the homepage of the event |
17:05.40 | wethrin | Boozeup? |
17:05.52 | Leeds | doubt it |
17:06.02 | wethrin | oh well |
17:06.48 | Leeds | oh fuck, Danese Cooper is at one of the events as "Open Source Diva, Intel Corporation" |
17:06.49 | gregj | George is a pussy, he will rather sit and irc pretending he is working, than go out with me and few others to the city for a proper diner |
17:06.49 | Leeds | silly bitch |
17:06.59 | gregj | who is she anyway |
17:07.12 | Leeds | George: for fuck's sake, go out and enjoy Spain |
17:07.44 | Leeds | gregj: she's a silly bitch - used to be the Open Source Diva at Sun, which seemed to be a title she gave herself, and she never seemed to do anything useful for anyone inside or outside the country |
17:07.55 | Leeds | s/country/company/ |
17:07.59 | gregj | :-) |
17:08.15 | gregj | fuck the titles ppl gave themselves |
17:08.23 | Leeds | can't say how well, the events in Sri Lanka will run, but it looks like they've got some good stuff planned |
17:09.13 | wethrin | gregj: Ignore George |
17:10.27 | Leeds | hmm... okay, need to persuade the cousins to send me to Sri Lanka next week... |
17:10.56 | Leeds | and then persuade them that I should be spending the week in Colombo doing Linux stuff, rather than at the factory doing work :-) |
17:11.21 | wethrin | :-) |
17:15.36 | Leeds | wow, there's a blast from the past - someone I worked with at SCO (he did an internship from Cantab) and haven't had any contact with since, and who is apparently now at Intel Research, has just dropped me a "how's life?" mail :-) |
17:16.01 | wethrin | cool |
17:16.09 | George | foo |
17:16.18 | Leeds | http://www.cambridge.intel-research.net/~rennals/ |
17:16.21 | wethrin | George: you suck |
17:16.26 | wethrin | Go and be social |
17:17.02 | Leeds | I could give him a gentle boot... |
17:17.34 | wethrin | yes |
17:17.35 | wethrin | good plan |
17:17.40 | George | wethrin: no |
17:17.44 | wethrin | go on |
17:17.47 | George | NO |
17:17.53 | wethrin | The whole point of these things is the boozeups |
17:18.20 | George | no |
17:18.24 | George | I don't drink |
17:18.29 | wethrin | You should start, then |
17:18.30 | George | NO |
17:18.31 | Leeds | so what - get out ther |
17:18.38 | George | I'm busy signing keys |
17:18.48 | Leeds | drinking is *not* essential - socialising and/or networking *is* |
17:19.03 | George | I'M BUSY |
17:19.10 | mozrat | George, people will respect your choice of not drinking, people won't respect your choice of being unsociable |
17:19.16 | wethrin | Keys can be signed at any time |
17:19.17 | George | mozrat: oh well :) |
17:19.21 | mozrat | go out but don't drinkthen |
17:19.24 | wethrin | mozrat: I don't respect his non-drinking choice :) |
17:19.26 | George | I'm busy. |
17:19.40 | wethrin | George: No. Go out and be social |
17:19.44 | wethrin | Keys can be signed when you get home |
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17:19.52 | Leeds | George: go out now |
17:20.08 | George | no |
17:20.22 | wethrin | There's no point in going to conferences without being social |
17:20.43 | Leeds | George: last warning |
17:21.35 | Leeds | gregj: is he moving? :-) |
17:22.36 | George | gregj isn't here |
17:22.39 | George | he's gone |
17:22.42 | George | I think |
17:22.47 | Leeds | good - you go too |
17:22.50 | George | no |
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17:23.10 | George | stop being an ass |
17:23.22 | Leeds | we are making a serious point |
17:23.27 | George | hush |
17:23.34 | Leeds | we are your elders and far far betters |
17:23.40 | George | ... |
17:24.05 | Leeds | or to put it another way - at least from my point of view - learn from others' mistakes - far better than making them yourself |
17:24.19 | George | ... |
17:27.12 | George | oh well, bye |
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17:27.26 | mozrat | nerd |
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17:31.25 | mozrat | Mmmm |
17:32.00 | Leeds | but I still like being able to say, in a summary of the past few years of my life: " |
17:32.02 | Leeds | Since then, I've moved to Hong Kong to work for a bra company, spending half my time at the factory in Sri Lanka. Just, you know, for the sake of doing something slightly different with my life..." |
17:33.11 | mozrat | yeah - it's cool |
17:40.56 | Leeds | and wow, how screwed is New Orleans? |
17:42.01 | mozrat | how so? |
17:42.30 | mozrat | oh yeah |
17:43.29 | Leeds | 6metres below sea level and about to be hit by a honking huge hurricane |
17:46.00 | mozrat | surprised theres only "hundreds of thousands" evacuated rather than a million |
17:47.13 | mozrat | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Orleans,_Louisiana puts the city at 400000 odd |
17:48.18 | Leeds | it could well be one of those things where the city itself is technically a lot smaller than the urban area |
17:48.35 | Leeds | like, say, London |
17:48.39 | mozrat | seems to be |
17:57.48 | JAV | 280 Km/h wind speed. :-O |
17:58.47 | mozrat | kite flying weather! |
17:59.25 | mozrat | you'd probably end up in the next state if you tried |
17:59.39 | Leeds | lol |
17:59.46 | Leeds | zzzzz |
18:01.10 | mozrat | "However, pumping of groundwater from underneath the city has resulted in subsidence, which has greatly increased the flood risk, should the levees be breached or precipitation is in excess of pumping capacity, as could happen during a hurricane. A major hurricane could create a lake in the central city as much as 30 feet deep, which could take months to pump dry. |
18:01.15 | mozrat | Canal Street, looking away from the river, 1920s |
18:01.18 | mozrat | " |
18:01.21 | mozrat | Canal Street, looking away from the river, 1920s |
18:01.31 | mozrat | whoops - ignore the Canal street bit |
18:01.53 | mozrat | over zealous copying and pasting |
19:58.23 | JAV | http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000560056282/ --> Samsung?s M70 19-inch laptop |
20:03.00 | Blissex | that 19" laptop is quite ridiculous... |
20:04.16 | JAV | lots of backaches expected |
20:04.17 | JAV | :D |
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22:56.28 | Cope | hello wethrin |
22:56.44 | wethrin | Hello. Damn Freenode's IPv6 connection |
22:56.52 | wethrin | Damn it to the fifth depth of hell |
23:12.15 | wethrin | Mm |
23:13.34 | Cope | bop |
23:13.44 | wethrin | mmmm |
23:14.27 | Cope | whooa yeah! |
23:14.40 | Cope | do do do dopee do do |
23:14.40 | wethrin | Grrr. Mobile phones suck |
23:14.51 | Cope | In respect of what? |
23:15.05 | Cope | As mobile communication devices, I'd they they're pretty good. |
23:15.37 | wethrin | Pff. You can barely communicate on new phones. Take pictures, sure |
23:15.39 | wethrin | Play games, sure |
23:15.51 | wethrin | Do video editing, sure |
23:15.55 | wethrin | Talk to someone? Hahaha |
23:17.08 | Cope | KISS |
23:17.11 | Cope | YAGNI |
23:17.18 | Cope | DTSSTCPW |
23:17.19 | Cope | etc |
23:20.05 | wethrin | YAGNI? |
23:25.20 | wethrin | come to Durham! |
23:26.51 | rhowe | Is it hot and dry in November? |
23:27.47 | wethrin | Meh |
23:27.47 | Cope | ibot yagni |
23:27.49 | ibot | from memory, yagni is You ain't gonna need it! |
23:27.49 | wethrin | :) |
23:27.56 | wethrin | ah |
23:29.28 | wethrin | I had venison steak |
23:30.44 | Cope | I had some chicken breasts stuffed with stilton and wrapped in bacon |
23:30.53 | Cope | (and cooked) |
23:32.20 | Leeds | bloody Treo |
23:32.52 | Cope | I wanna treo and I want one now! |
23:33.04 | Cope | </blast from past> |
23:33.25 | wethrin | Nice |
23:33.33 | wethrin | TRIIIIO |
23:33.46 | wethrin | Chicken breasts stuffed with haggis are very nice too |
23:33.50 | Cope | yum |
23:34.36 | wethrin | Indeed |
23:34.44 | Leeds | something has made it very very unstable |
23:34.47 | wethrin | I shall hopefully attempt to make a haggis and whisky pie tomorrow |
23:44.15 | Cope | Leeds: what changed? |
23:47.18 | Leeds | Cope: I don't know |
23:49.12 | Cope | aha |
23:50.23 | JAV | no firmware upgrade available? |
23:51.58 | Leeds | not since the one I installed a couple of months ago - and that one didn't seem to change the freezing |
23:52.28 | Cope | nasty |
23:53.18 | JAV | so it's a common failure, isn't it? |
23:53.28 | JAV | claim your money back! |
23:53.32 | JAV | :) |
23:53.46 | wethrin | Hm. George still isn't back |